Wait But Why's Tim Urban - Politics for Fools

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  • Опубліковано 19 лис 2024

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  • @TheIllusionust
    @TheIllusionust 2 роки тому +38

    this channel is criminally underrated 😢

    • @tylertroy1696
      @tylertroy1696 2 роки тому

      I didn’t even notice the number of subs. I assumed 100x.

    • @meccanised
      @meccanised Рік тому

      I just discovered it, when new videos??

    • @mokied
      @mokied Рік тому

      True

  • @ktom
    @ktom Рік тому +6

    Just recently finished listening to his appearance on Lex Friedman's podcast. The more he started talking, the more I realized there was something off. I was like, "oh GOD no...he's gone down the false equivalency anti-SJW rabbit hole, hasn't he?!"

  • @xairline5082
    @xairline5082 2 роки тому +13

    I'm not sure about this channel because it is a non stop stream of personal attacks rather than a discussion of the underlying ideas. I've noticed this in pretty much all videos... Also the narrator calls the people disgusting human being etc. Like I also don't like some of the people reviewed but it's a bit dark to go that route. This is a classic person upset that people have publicly expressed an opinion different from his own. We must fall in line or risk humiliation by youtube video. :/ stick to the content rather than bullying

    • @fr0nzp
      @fr0nzp  2 роки тому +3

      are you able to spell out one single argument?

    • @L3vls
      @L3vls Рік тому +4

      @@fr0nzp why would the op want to? Did you read the comment? They called you a “bully” and mentioned that all videos they’ve seen of yours have been personal attacks. Why would a layperson engage a professional shit talker?

    • @mokied
      @mokied Рік тому

      @@L3vls are you not allowed to criticize prominent people in the public sphere?

    • @WayofWill
      @WayofWill Рік тому +1

      Personal attacks, and the quality of an argument, are completely unrelated to one another. Thicken your skin.

    • @yukitadano5098
      @yukitadano5098 2 місяці тому

      @@fr0nzp huh?

  • @cleonanderson1722
    @cleonanderson1722 Рік тому +3

    Prescient -- I forgot I had been subbed to his newsletter until I started getting emails recently and had the a lot of the same reaction. I was already a bit put off when he spent an enormous amount of effort doing PR/imagineering on behalf of Elon Musk's Neuralink. Not at all surprised at his life path really given his clear predisposition towards technocratic politics and the reality of surviving in American society as a public figure whose primary concerns are likely aesthetic and social. I guess when you spend six years trying to explain all of society (most of which you don't actually interact with) you end up mystifying the obvious.

  • @donkeyshot1
    @donkeyshot1 Рік тому +4

    I was wondering about Urban's leanings as I read the email announcing his book publication. It seems he may have gone astray. Excellent video.

    • @satori-in-life
      @satori-in-life Рік тому +1

      Tell me you're a partisan politcal hack without telling me you're a partisan political hack.

  • @djarogames
    @djarogames 2 роки тому +7

    Why is the thing about Oxford University being older than the Aztec empire a right wing dogwhistle? I've only seen it used as a fun fact about how one is thought to be more modern, when it's actually a lot older

    • @fr0nzp
      @fr0nzp  2 роки тому +1

      You could just as well interpret as some sort of superiority when it comes to a civilized culture. Granted, it's a stretch but that's actually how lots of people in the replies understood it.

    • @_nebulousthoughts
      @_nebulousthoughts Рік тому +9

      ​@Dareios IV. If you hear dog whistles everywhere where other people don't guess what ... it's you who's the racist.

  • @harrysecombegroupie
    @harrysecombegroupie Рік тому +6

    I think you've fundamentally mistaken what Tim means by 'high rung' and 'low rung' thinking. High rung here doesn't refer to the highest levels of power and influence, but a way of thinking that is more rigorous, self-critical, open to complexities and nuances, and believes that ideas should be questioned and examined. Low rung thinking is more simplistic, black and white, us vs them, self-reinforcing and dogmatic. Both sides of politics are capable of high rung thought or of lapsing into low rung thought.

    • @cleonanderson1722
      @cleonanderson1722 Рік тому +4

      Maybe Tim's ladder thesis is actually not substantively representative of reality and mapping the people in a society onto that model doesn't give us a useful lens or any meaningful information that which can be utilized to alter material conditions or affect the political behavior of people in a society. Tim's presupposition he has spent six years trying to bend into the shape of coherence has produced an overly simplistic and idealistic end product that is on its face obvious pablum to anyone who isn't predisposed towards Tim or shares Tim's politics. This is just what it looks like when you live in a very specific sort of bubble and your main concerns are ultimately aesthetic.

    • @WayofWill
      @WayofWill Рік тому

      @@cleonanderson1722 Couldn't have put it better myself even if I took a year to write this comment. Well done.

    • @GeorgeLocke
      @GeorgeLocke 12 годин тому

      Openness to complexity and nuance is empirically anti correlated to conservative political views according to representative polls iirc.
      The entire argument is premised on an idealized marketplace of ideas. Among the many problems with this ideal is reliance on a social contract where nobody gets hurt or silenced. If these are breached, then the ideas of those people don't get heard. In other words, if one group begins the debate willing to wield political power to subjugate another group, then how is it sensible to rely on letters to the editor as your only defense?
      Regardless of any specific issue with his terms, the premise that both sides are ultimately working together is not sound in the current climate, and the authoritarians are not evenly spread out on left and right.

  • @youngmoneymahini
    @youngmoneymahini Рік тому +3

    Great video, and wholesome ending👏🏼🤞🏼

    • @fr0nzp
      @fr0nzp  Рік тому +2

      Thank you :)

  • @mokied
    @mokied 2 роки тому +2

    Haven't finished yet, but looks like a fun video. Are you going to continue the Succession essays series?

    • @fr0nzp
      @fr0nzp  2 роки тому +2

      Yes, I want to release one more video as soon as the new season starts. I've already written a script. =)

    • @mokied
      @mokied 2 роки тому +1

      @@fr0nzp Yeah, I suppose that would be a more opportune time for that.

    • @mokied
      @mokied Рік тому

      @@fr0nzp New succession season started, any update on the video?

  • @mokied
    @mokied 2 роки тому +4

    Looks like a future subject of a DTG episode. Sad thing about these public figures is that they have to continue escalating their rhetoric to remain attractive to their RW audience while simultaneously maintaining good relationships with liberal audience and institutions that made them appealing to the validating seeking conservative base in the first place. Eventually the seams coming apart and they get stuck in la la land with slim chances of ever coming back.

    • @58brandt
      @58brandt Рік тому

      La la land? Hey leftist explain how every atrocity in the last 100 yrs throughout the world has been committed by your fellow jealous, filled with hate, mentally ill and physically ugly brethren like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, il-Sung, Mussolini...Leftists are evil personified.

    • @mokied
      @mokied Рік тому

      @@58brandt
      Mussolini is a leftist 🤣
      (I see why you might think the other ones are, but Mussolini, GTFO)
      Also:
      *Bengal famine* - 3.8M famished (British Empire)
      *Atrocities in the Congo Free State* - 10M (Belgian Colonial Empire)
      *Genocide of indigenous peoples in America* - 130M (European Colonial powers)
      *Transatlantic Slave Trade* - 12M enslaved, 1M perished
      *The Iraq War* - estimated 1M casualties as consequence of the War itself and regional destabilization (USA)
      (Just a quick list of some of the atrocities done by western countries. Not supporting any of the authoritarian assholes in your list, but lets not put our heads in the sand)

  • @DeMenteMinds
    @DeMenteMinds Рік тому +1

    I'm currently reading his book. One thing that bothers me about it is his poor use of statistics. For example, he mentions that, between 2016 and 2022, 58% of unarmed men killed by police were white. He cites his source, it's a fact. However, the further goes that coverage in the news would be disproportionately on black deaths, and that people's intuition of this statistic was also off and disproportionate towards blacks. He mentions that people's perception of the situation is off, implying that things are not as bad as we think they are. However, he forgets to adjust for the percentage of the entire nation that are black. Blacks are roughly 13% of the total population of the Unites States and they are 42% of that statistic? Then no, Tim, things are not OK. He forgot to normalize his statistic this way before making a conclusion. Or did he?

  • @changez77654
    @changez77654 26 днів тому

    Hello - hope you are well and look to see you soon

  • @MrProofMan
    @MrProofMan 2 роки тому +2

    Hey what happened to your Crowder Thanksgiving video?

  • @bartacristian
    @bartacristian Рік тому

    Hey dareios, do you still post ? We miss you

    • @fr0nzp
      @fr0nzp  Рік тому

      Hey - I actually am much more active on my German channel and won't post here anymore. :] Glad you enjoyed my content though

    • @bartacristian
      @bartacristian Рік тому

      @@fr0nzp Ok, thank you for the response. What s the name of the german one ?

    • @astralisranger517
      @astralisranger517 Рік тому

      @@fr0nzp what is the German channel?

  • @dubiusindex8216
    @dubiusindex8216 2 роки тому +4

    Interesting video. I watched the procrastination ted talk when it was trending but didn't know anything he did after that. That were some really bad takes of his.

  • @tauiin
    @tauiin Рік тому

    where did you go?

  • @Jacob-Vivimord
    @Jacob-Vivimord 2 роки тому +16

    Huh. I don't think I've disagreed with one of your videos so much before.

    • @fr0nzp
      @fr0nzp  2 роки тому +6

      Tell me why!

    • @droprelease4820
      @droprelease4820 2 роки тому +4

      Centrism is a legitimate political idea that is explored in politics study - even Obama is categorised as a centre-left politician.

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian Рік тому +1

      @@droprelease4820 wut

    • @mokied
      @mokied Рік тому

      @@droprelease4820 centrism could be an advantaged position for a political actor to act from. For a public intellectual it’s shameful. If half the people want to kill the Jews and half don’t, a Centrist would be in favor of killing just half of the Jews.

  • @Floatacious
    @Floatacious 2 роки тому +3

    I hope that you and others are able to discover Ayn Rand at some point. it really puts all politics into perspective. most politicians don't really disagree with each other in principal. they all want more control over the individual. they simply argue about where and how much

    • @fr0nzp
      @fr0nzp  2 роки тому +4

      I think that's self evident even without reading Rand =)

    • @Floatacious
      @Floatacious 2 роки тому +1

      @@fr0nzp I think the hordes of people that align with one or the other party and declare the other side evil would suggest the opposite

    • @mokied
      @mokied Рік тому +1

      @@Floatacious wow, now you can feel superior to both.

    • @Floatacious
      @Floatacious Рік тому

      @@mokied Exactly! I really do have the moral high ground over everyone else. Primarily because in the realm of politics I don't believe in the initiation of force. I don't believe in using violence to get what I want. The result of extracting force from society is Capitalism, not what we have today, but laseifare, unregulated, true freedom. And it would be beautiful 🥲

    • @mokied
      @mokied Рік тому

      @@Floatacious what do you think someone else would find problematic in your last comment?

  • @johnwilliams-ni8cn
    @johnwilliams-ni8cn Рік тому

    How much land is there(is the home sacred)
    there is over 295 billion 1/8 acres of land on this world, In canada and united states there are 23 billion 1/8 acres of land, so all the 8 billion people in the world could all go to canada and united states, all get 1/8 acre of land totally free that another is not using, away from any resources people need to live, there would still be an extra 15 billion 1/8 acres of public land left over, there would not be a human body anywhere else in the world, non in africa, south america, europe, china, russia etc... yet we are being lied to there is NOT enough land? oil? gas? electricity? food? water? etc...
    1/8 acre of land is 5445 sq ft, an average 2 bedroom condo is less than a 1000 sq ft, that can be built on 1/8 acre of land, people build on swamps, mountains, snow etc... add a 2000 sq. ft. greenhouse for nutrition, grow plants for free! There is still 2445 sq. ft. Left over, chickens, goat etc...? they can build anything their hearts desire. If people want they can move together, 1/8 acre next to another one or far away. free thermal heat, self-sufficient hydro, people can help each other create anything for free again. humans never have to act as a slave to something else. It’s better to show someone how to help themselves, then forced to act as a slave to another. look at all the homeless people dying, murder? all land and its resources is the gift that keeps on giving, to you and your child, that must always be free from debt. its only on your own land you have liberty and justice, live by your own laws, not a slave to an others rules. all ⅛ acres of land can be tracked on the written world map also with computer.
    in a town there is a piece of land that for over 20 yrs has had a fence/border/debt around it, destroying anything that could have creatively used it, so retarded.
    having what they need people naturally help each other! for free.
    imagine, think a body and spirit, is love, wise, and power, able to forgive and be free?
    avoid debt, the lie, be true and free.
    why do most people do what they do? politicians, artists, athletes, police, army, navy, air force, accountants, bankers, lawyers, drug dealers(legal and illegal) psychologists, criminals, doctors, strippers, secretaries, builders, thieves, F.B.I., C.I.A. etc... for shelter, nutrition and electricity, especially for their child.
    imagine, think a body and spirit, is love, wise, and power, able to forgive and be free?
    avoid debt, the lie, be true and free.
    man and woman in condo(jail) or with nature and god?
    in a apartment/condo you pay mortgage, condo fees, condo rules, hydro bills, gas debt, water debt, air debt? food debt, fear from bills/debt, hatred etc... a jail with privilege to live. communism.
    living with nature; you have land, fresh air, water, plants, fruit, vegetables, animals, shelter, sun light, water, electricty, fire, feelings, love etc... all free, the land of the free. right too live.
    imagine, think a body and spirit, is love, wise, and power, able to forgive and be free?
    avoid debt, the lie, be true and free.
    did debters finance woman's lib?
    debters want to tax everything. attach a debt too everything. total corruption and slavery. debt's you will have nothing! and be happy! they where not able to attach a debt/tax too woman, her home and child. debtors thought how much extra debt they could extort, millions, billions of woman, their homes and children. debters used propaganda/lies to make the woman think she should get paid for being a mother, charge a debt, not to help her but to legally em-ploy/pimp her as a worker, into their debt/tax employment system. separating her from her home and child, her love. now forced too pay the pimp/debtors taxes, as a whore, not legally a mother. so debters could legally extort her property, her home, her child into their educated debt system. tax/rape them all, legally steal her child and home, with the birth certificate. if its legal its good? illegal bad. take the mother and child's right to its equal share of earths land and resources. now she is only a paid whore, treated as a retard, dumb, ignorant, not fit to be a mother. is this how any woman should think and feel? yet they use debt against men and men allow it, so ignorant and retarded. the children have no shelter and nutrition. forced into the debters financial education system. its legal civil departments, to pay for protection from the authoritative hierarchy of debt's legal illusion system. to serve and protect? what?
    all woman must have 1/8 acre of land(not more or less) with shelter, nutrition and electricity, so the mother has a home where her child can always go if needed. anything that denies this, is a attempted murderer.
    imagine, think a body, mind and soul, is love, wise, and power, able to forgive and be free?
    avoid debt, the lie, be true and free.

  • @johnwilliams-ni8cn
    @johnwilliams-ni8cn Рік тому

    corporations
    they are an artificial person, a mask, with its own, codes, statutes, rules. ignorance(entrapment) is acceptance of a contract, codes and statutes are voluntary(con-sent). any one can incorporate anything, even themselves. this then has a board of directors at the top(king and queen of england and others), followed by the CEO, other chief executives, vice presidents(federal political persons), directors, managers and lower-level employees. presumption of law; the corporation is a presumption(with presumptions attached), people(men, woman, children and nature) are its law, men, woman and children its creator. corporations are legally able to make its own rules, that must get honoured in its artificial corporate court. this is where judges are used, not a jury court of its creators. corporations are legally able to use debt illusion(try to show a friend debt illusion? what color is it? what shape? how does it smell? its not real, a presumption, the lie). they evolved the birth certificate(a legal trust, stealing every child's free equal share of the land and resources), its a corporation, signed by debters(anything using debt illusion). the corporate registrar general, then given to the people, evolved into the debters artificial corporate society, with its artificial em-ploy-ees/slaves. the police departments, fire departments, healthcare departments, tax departments etc... are all corporations, what owns the corporations and employees? corporations only have jurisdictional authority with other corporations, never its law, its creator. the corporate banks could legally use debt illusion(where all corruption, slavery, pollution, suffering, wars and murders evolve from) with the peoples birth certificate. legally trying too buy/own all land, water, nature and what people create. attach their debt illusion(no god). in its corporate jail, where they make their own codes, statutes, rules that other corporations and employees must legally honour its corporate legal political communist system, that is all debt illusion. in their corporate court, hatred and wars are legal, profitable, illegal to love and forgive, unprofitable. did any artificial persons ask to volunteer in ignorance(entrapment) to corporate codes and statutes, to contracts? best not to agree, consent to any corporate presumption, lies. best to being free to create and share anything knowing the law and god.
    imagine, think a body, mind and soul, is love, wise, and power, able to forgive and be free?
    avoid debt, the lie, be true and free.
    presumption of law
    imagine a parent, teacher, police, anyone, presume a child may do something they do not like. punishes the child. accuses/charges the child. takes the child's allowance/fines it. grounds/jails the child, then confiscates the child's toys/property, for something that didn't happen, is not real. what would happen to anything that does that too a child, to anything? put in a psychological home, to show what is the difference of anything true or a lie, real or unreal? what psychological effects would that have on the child? it can use presumptions, something not real, a lie, to take what others have, what they created?
    in the legal system did lawyers want more business? so since the corporation is a presumption of law. law is; all men, woman, children and nature. they thought its logical(its not) that they could attach presumptions too it. so if someone is doing something someone else hates, they could presume its illegal, so legally charge them with it. make more presumptions, more things illegal, more employment, more court cases, more business/clientele and more fines/profit.
    0 tolerance for statutes/presumptions, illegal to rebuttal it.
    hitler and its s.s., stalin and its k.g.b. and others, used presumptions to charge, inprison and murder men, woman, children and destroy nature.
    let the courts use only real life proof, not a presumption with debt illusion attached, something not real, a lie.
    imagine, think a body and spirit, is love, wise, and power, able to forgive and be free?
    avoid debt, the lie, be true and free.

  • @treywaka2444
    @treywaka2444 5 місяців тому

    that comment about covid shot safety aged poorly 🤭

  • @P5YCH53N
    @P5YCH53N 2 роки тому

    👍

  • @bjornunderabadsign
    @bjornunderabadsign 2 роки тому

    Thank you. You have much more patience in explaining why this guy is an asshole than I would.

  • @didhedieddud334
    @didhedieddud334 2 роки тому +2

    Second