Why EVERYONE Plays: R.O.B. | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
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Welcome to the first episode of the sister series to Why NO ONE Plays: Why EVERYONE Plays! As the name implies, this series evaluates characters who are very popular within the competitive scene, frequently placing high at major tournaments. For the first episode, we're gonna be covering R.O.B.
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wait did they send you the script for the "strategy" for the minotaur boss since if they did they messed up saying you can stun him since all bosses are immune to all CC but one hydra head and the magma dragon which can be provoked
You should do Little Mac for the next Why No One Plays
I don't even play the games you talk about I just like game design theory and also your voice
Lol
Bruh you don't even Plat this game chill
I'd say that the main reason why people know ROB is because of Subspace Emissary in Brawl. Rob was right there from the getgo with the bombs, Captain Falcon punches a giant ROB and the Ancient Minister is the leader of ROBs and is playable.
I definitely think of Subspace first when I think of ROB.
I feel like I'm one of few people who knew ROB before Smash. Granted I didn't know his origin back then, but I learned about his existence when he was a guest character in Mario Kart DS.
I remember watching a documentary in G4 about Nintendo's early days and they showed ROB
funny cause the R.O.B console failed where his appearance in subspace saved him
also because of mk ds!
1°: It has a cool smash-related backstory. If you have played Brawl you know what I am talking about.
2°: He's just an amazing character who can cover almost every basis of neutral.
Subspace Emissary was crazy lmao
Yesss
3°: He's easy
he was also in mario kart DS he was crazy in that too
@@minortatu3311 this is very important
ROB has everything. Easy combos, easy kill setups, projectiles, disjoints, insane recovery, strong neutral, good frame data, heavy weight, and he's simple to play too.
Plus having the super broken shenanigans granted to characters with Z drop items
I know all too well and I don’t main him.
I agree its also funny seeing a robot going against top teirs and winning. I feel he has been nerfed pretty well
@@omgitsmario7 rob has gotten next to zero nerfs over ult's update cycle lmao, nothing compared to nerfs like wolf and palu despite him doing better than both
@@omgitsmario7 dude Rob is a top tier
You should do more "why everyone plays ____" this was fantastic
Steve or Roy would be a good candidate for that.
Agreed!
He does them alot on his other channels.
id love to see roy
He does it a lot on hus league channel
Every now and then I read a really elitist comment slamming your videos, but dude this intro level knowledge easing people into a deeper understanding of the game is perfect for helping our community grow, thanks man for just being a positive voice for us!
On the topic of "brand recognition" I would argue that ROB has been one of Smash's most iconic characters ever since Brawl and his role in the Subspace Emissary. So I don't think it's fair to compare him to Wii Fit Trainer in that aspect
One could, ideally, sum up ROB's success in a simple manner with a singular phrase:
"Go, my child, hold down the neutral"
As someone who's had ROB as one of my mains since brawl, it was really weird seeing him suddenly rise to the top in ultimate especially since he's felt largely the same to me as in Smash 4, but i'm happy that he seems mostly respected despite being a pretty silly zoner lol
He’s pretty hated honestly, feels like the game has him favored to win when you fight a rob
It's rather satisfying, isn't it
R.O.B. hasn’t been the same since he became the last of his species…
Wdym?
@@darellarocho5729 Two words: Subspace Emissary
this was great! cant wait to see more "why everyone plays"
I would LOVE to see a “why no one plays bayonetta” mainly because her frame data is pretty solid, and bat within is great
isn't her pickrate standart ? i me and it not smash 4
@@captaineflowchapka5535 I mean, I rarely see any bayos in all my time playing online. Personally at least, I see more plants than bayos lol
Her frame data is solid if you’re talking about startup and active frames, but she has arguably the most end lag in the game period. You miss any one of your moves and you’re dead if you didn’t space well, which, in ultimate where every move is safe, is absolutely awful.
Would’ve agreed with this months ago but bayos are rising now
I'll give you a good run down, she's good in the sense that she can deal high damage within one good combo carrying a person from 0 to roughly 50-80% if everything goes right, but if your opponent knows how to di that goes down the hole real quick. She has decent active frames and start up, but like everyone else if you were to pair her shit with the specials she has it adds on to her surmounted end lag by the end of it which is one hell of a price to pay.
Not only that her hitboxes are a bit too small which causes her to have spacing issues that is further worsened by her weak shield pressure which heightens her bait and punish playstyle to the extreme, but in a bad way.
A lot of characters in the game either has a good spacing option to inflict shield pressure through damage, an attack that leaves the opponent in more shield stun to render any counter attacks unpunishable, or can deal heavy shield damage to break shield, Bayonetta has none of that and that puts her in one of the worse positions to get through neutral which is practically a mine field for her if you try to initiate any sort of aggression.
Overall she has a "good" kit on paper, but she struggles to work in a real fight cause she trades off more than she gives back in providing a consistency in her game plan that would allow her to kill reasonably rather than her insane necessity to read, and hope for the best that the opponent fucks up to the point an opening presents itself, and in high level play that's not going to easily occur as people who know how to play neutral are not that illogical in throwing out a high risk move out of nowhere as their attack starter.
The timing of this is just perfect after what happened last weekend lol
What happened?
Yeah Leo went crazy with rob and almost won even though he’s reasonably different from the swordies Leo normally opts for
@@DHS222 the best player in the game played rob in grand finals
@@venont2948 ok thanks
It was planned bud. He wants to maximize views and money
This was a great video about ROB. But my favorite moment was actually the joke about "that's how you get Pyra/Mythra!" xD amazing video, once again. You really break things down for anyone to understand.
I'm convinced vars forgot about mario kart ds, rob's most iconic appearance by far
This was a really good video at explaining why ROB is so good and does explain a bit why he’s so popular in competitive play and yet seemingly falls under everyone’s radar. If I could suggest a topic for a future video, I would like to see you explain why no one plays Yoshi. It seems like he has the brand recognition and most players place him in high tier, yet he is rarely seen. Thanks again for the great video.
I think its because he has trouble with a lot of the popular swordies that appear in high level play.
I would love a why nobody plays yoshi.
Seeing someone do a deeper analysis on yoshi would be amazing. I wish my main was top tier. 😔
@@gaarc33 Who's your main?
How tf does rob fall under everyone's radar
@@kailynx2295 Everyone complains about how Steve is going to take over the game and yet at most you would probably find 3 players for that played Steve in top 32 of a major. There could be 6 different people that use ROB in top 32 and no one says anything.
Well I think robs role in rhe subspace emissary is what makes him recognizable to everyone. I know that subspace emissary was the shit when i was a kid. Id say thats a very big factor in his popularity
Note: While Ken and Ryu light dtilts are somewhat of a weird case, both are faster than rob's at frame 2
Rob is tied with Ness, Lucas, Little Mac and Meta Knight for the fastest non-shoto dtilt tho
Best or fastest d tilt?
@@andressuarez2942 ty for pointing It out lol
I feel so bad for R.O.B, while he found a new family to make memories with, he lost his people to someone who ultimately betrayed him
I think rob has a very good combination of easy to use, fun to use, and his actual strengths as a good character. As a melee player who only plays ult on the side thats why I play rob
I'm glad ROB is popular, I mained him in sb4. He's actually really fun to play
Another thing to note is that R.O.B.'s slow moves are shockingly safe. The upwards bump from down air makes it one of the least punishing spikes in the game to miss. Meanwhile, back air has an unexpected lingering hitbox that doesn't even come close to killing, granted, but that is very good at stopping a lot of potential punishes. Not to mention, back air pushes R.O.B. so far away from where he just attacked that punishing it at all is a nightmare. That's one of the reasons you *do* actually see it sometimes in neutral. Zomba's whiffed it a few times and been pretty fine (even though he almost always hits, how does he do that????).
memorizing hitboxes and good spacing helps. I rarely miss finishing touch or even d-tilt busterwolf.
when u asked "why everyone plays rob"
all i could hear was WaDi saying: "they made it barney the dinosaur : the character, easy and good if u apply fundies"
YES this is amazing the past 4 days ive been talking to a friend who is a rob main and im an inkling main
they tried to claim inkling is as cringe as rob and so ive been explaining why not and then the global rankings came oht snd i showed them robs presence at 13th place and inkling mot appearing till 83rd and then this video i swear everything is going perfectly its hilarious
Inkling has what is IMO the worst posible weakness a smash character can have, being reliant on kill % windows.
I was a D3 Main but I grew tired of his helpless disadvantage and slow mobility. I also was a cloud main but could not get past his awful recovery.
ROB has been my new main for the exact reasons you highlighted. He's incredibly well rounded and a fundamentals character.
as a Cloud main, you have to spend more time practicing different kinds of recovery. otherwise you get predictable
@@ThatOneWeirdFlex Cloud absolutely has some flexibility in his recovery, especially if you learn it very well....but his recovery is still TRASH. Especially when compared to the rest of the cast. You can too easily gimp cloud off stage, even pro clouds are prone to it. You ain't gonna gimp a ROB though. In fact, you'll probably end up dead if you try to challenge him off stage.
I'm not trying to say Cloud is bad. He's really an amazing top tier character in spite of his recovery... but I'd rather play ROB 🤷♂️.
I don't even own a switch but playing rob as my main since he was introduced has allowed me to still keep up with my friends that practice twice as often. Very beginner friendly but still has such a massive amount of potential
Rob? More like pog
It sounds like R.O.B. just reflects (or is Nintendo's idea of what his game is perfectly executed in Smash) what his game is about perfectly while also being a competitive fighter to me. At least from the limited information I dug up on the internet. He's just so thoughtfully designed, Arm means fast but short-ranged, thrusters mean strong but short-range, Gyro is an incredible little tool, the Lazers are good at out-ranging opponents, though both of those projectiles can be reflected, and the Thrusters is just an easy-to-use recovery, and the spin is meant to be a multi-purposed "reset-to-nuetral" tool.
This is an overall basic yet multi-layered design that creates so many potential interactions! It's honestly brilliant, now why didn't they try this approach to character's like Jr or Luigi? Well, with Luigi you can just not practice the Grab infinites and probably have as much fun though with Jr? You kinda need to master his projectiles and approach options in order to be on equal footing, which while they most certainly aren't combo's that you need to grind out in the lab, they are still overcentralized or just simply outclassed in the wrong scenario. Then again, the moments where they are meant to be used are probably supposed to be a representation of Jr's genius with manipulating boss phases with his projectiles and his attacks though that does kind of create an endless cycle that you kinda have to work very hard for, right? I don't know, maybe Jr is secretly *THE* top tier that we have been looking for right underneath our noses, or maybe he's just a character with a basic cycle interaction that's just hard to get opponents hooked under. His game of "Chicken", as they say.
I knew about R.O.B cause of the AVGN. I played our buddy in Brawl, 4, and forgot about him in Ultimate cause of all the new characters. Recently I’ve been playing R.O.B and man, he’s a blast definitely everything I like in a character is present with this character and I love it x
R.O.B hasn't ever dominated the competitive scene in anyway before so I don't mind him being one of the best characters in Ultimate. Same with Wario but to a lesser extent since Wario seems to have been better than R.O.B on average iirc
Wario was solid in brawl (of course nowhere near Meta Knight) but was pretty garbage in Smash 4
R.O.B does dominate the competitive scene even if he doesn’t win as much as Roy or Palutena
@@Sergio-wc1wn I think he means before ultimate. He wasn’t dominate in either brawl or Smash 4
@@joeyruss3933 That's true but being good instead of OP in brawl isn't enough to compete with Meta Knight consistently. I love Brawl but characters get a lot more mileage being good in other smash games
Couple things, 1, I'd argue that Rob has some more brand recognition than you give him credit for, due to being a key presence/ common annoyance in subspace emissary in brawl, and also with his appearance in Mario kart ds. Also 2 for the pokemon analogy, I'd go with the exp share instead of the lucky egg to show bringing him out as a secondary, or life orb+ wonder guard or sheer force to show that he's better than average, but still more of a jack of all trades. Otherwise nice job, great video.
Ehh I still think not many people know about him in the same way that they do a character like Mario lol
About the Pokémon comparison, agreed (although you probably meant Magic Guard instead of Wonder Guard 😉)
Benn getting more and more back into smash. This video rules, i love this
I love playing against rob it’s one of those matchups where you’re actually playing the game
Dying at 60 to a rotor arm combo isn’t playing the game
@@chiliandcornbread09 yeah but both of you getting combos makes it quite fast paced I feel
@@chiliandcornbread09 Sounds like someone doesn't like playing the game B)
ROB was my og main back in Brawl when I wasn't playing or thinking smash competitively and just playing against my sister. Good ol' times
13:38 WE DID IT BOYS WE GOT A DEDEDE MENTION
Also good vid, glad you can acknowledge what makes R.O.B. good while also admitting he's lowkey kinda braindead XD
Inkling: Who are you
Rob: I'm you, but stronger
R.O.B has been one of my mains ever since he was introduced in Brawl. I always loved him, and Fox. Olimar and Lucas were 2 of my other favorites but they destroyed both of them in the newer titles so I am happy to hear at least R.O.B is so viable
I’ve been a ROB main since his debut in brawl and I’m glad he’s finally meta, but it also feels bad knowing a lot of people hate playing against him.
Are you surprised? No one likes fighting against Zoner and Projectile characters
Eh, only thing I don't like is the down tilt being -5 but you can parry it and sometimes spotdodge a grab follow up, I don't really mind fighting ROB tbh, Roy is more annoying imo because of his hitboxes being in his arm vs swordies who don't have that
actually super fun to play against, because he makes the game entirely skill-based. If you're better, you'll win, if you aren't, you'll lose.
I'd be interested to see a 'why no one plays Pichu'. When the game came out I assumed he sacrifices fragility for strength but he seems worse than Pikachu according to the community
The fact that he is apparently this good is surprising considering I didn't think much of him as a fighter. To me he was just that plot twist in Subspace and nothing else.
I remember back when Brawl came out and Lucario, ROB and Wolf were the only secret, new characters in Brawl. Of the 3 ROB was by far the one people cared the least, so he got the least attention, and the most antagonism. Then, when Smash 4 leaked, and we were watching people unlocking the characters for the first time, still holding out hope that the leaked roster from months ago was the final one, and then everyone getting pissed off after ROB was unlocked and the message that all the characters in the game were unlocked. Someone made a fanart of ROB dressed as Ridley saying "do you love me now?" while crying.
Things have changed.
You should do a “Why everybody hates “ title to show in why people hate playing against that character
I actually started maining ROB without looking at tierlists or watching games. I just liked the play style.
rob is proof of the limitations of a human form
I remember playing ROB in Brawl because of his role in the story. And in Smash 4 I played him because of the Brawl days even though he wasn't as good. And in Ultimate I have become the bane of everyone's existence. It is good to see how broken ROB has gotten over time because I have been there since the beginning.
Rob is an elder god, just like g&w + duck hunt
I like that one of the main villains from the Smash story is actually powerful
I'm guessing Lucario would be a "no one plays"…
Maybe cover?
Brand recognition... How bout Subspace Embassy where he's a major player in the whole f-in thing?
I know you probably get a lot of people saying "do this" and "do that", but I would really love to see a video on why people don't play toon link, I feel like the character could use some recognition since he's usually ignored due to link and yink
Outside of that I gotta say you're really underrated dude, keep up the good work ^^
We going to need that Luigi video 👀👀👀
"no branding for ROB"
I present to you:
The entire Subspace Emissary
XD
Of course that's within the smash universe so of course no *real* branding just like you said
I love how one of the points that he made is rob is braindead
dtilt
Bro, ROB is a robot, people find robots cooler than say Wii Fit loser. SO that might explain why people won't mind picking up a cool roll spamming metal robot.
Now that this series is out, I’d love to see my girl Samus! She’s becoming more and more popular as time goes on :)
Well I only play as ROB cuz he was the first dude I played Smash with in Brawl, also I like robots, sooo
Has spikes an item like Diddy, not only a charge recovery so if you're a movement players you'll always have a full boost. His arm attacks are litterally robotic speed, he's got some fast light attacks and arrears with great range or boxing head to head.
Has many ways to spike (said twice because he's obscure and there is a few really hard spikes like his item spike.)
Rob is heavy in all games but he's still Farley neutral in a lot of air and ground moves and attacks. He's not super slow or quick but me maintains range and can control ground work very nicely. He may not be able to always half pipe attack you but he is able to put out great dps and he has an awesome charging B Nsig. Since it charges passive and gains attack its nice extra dps on hit and is pretty fast.
He has a A stun lock. But its hard to pull off vs a real person unless yoy read the dodge wif
Versatile all range can be rushed but also enjoyed being rushed. Can stomp and trap vis neutral if your a movement god and can punish knock back and recoveries. Hes also able to use and pause his recovery unlike most characters who can get gimped from recovery
I mean, ROB looks like Wall-E, and that movie came out around the same time as Brawl, or at least that's how I remember it. I feel like his design is equal parts goofy and cool looking.
I've been playing R.O.B. since 2006. I legit mained ZSS in brawl and 2nd R.O.B., then solomained R.O.B. in Smash 4 and dropped ZSS even though she was S tier, and finally in Ultimate, R.O.B. went from high B+ tier to S tier. I've waited far too long for his moment to shine.
I was on rob all the way back in sm4sh and I’m happy to see him performing well nowadays. Now I wait for duck hunt to shine
I get told alllll the time this is because I have “sheik main goggles” but I personally LOVE that ROB is dominant. ROB is very easy but is ultimately a fundies character with some bullshit if you wanna learn it. ROBs being everywhere means most of us know what set ups to look out for, and his massive size and horrible disadvantage makes hitting him so damn satisfying. If I mess up a combo on a ROB I still usually just get an extension. Lots of sheik combos that require super precise timings are just bufferable again Rob specifically. And even tho Rob is easy, someone with no game sense isn’t gonna succeed. And my love for Rob is at an all time high now that Steve is taking over.
ROB being everywhere is so hype for spectators because when someone hits a ROB they get the chance to display their advantage state in full effect. Hitting a Steve feels like getting a dollar for an 8 hour shift.
Been a R.O.B. main since brawl. really glad to see he has gained popularity recently. ironically even tho he is popular I never have a chance to practice and fight against other R.O.B. mains.
12:13 that edge guard thou 👀
great video, your voice is one of my favourites on youtube right now!
I think gyro and beam setups require more advanced knowledge than just fundamentals. You also do mention Rob can just be destroyed by characters with a good combo game and if a player has bad autopilot. Considering Rob’s best long ranged tools like gyro and beam take time to fully charge to be used at the their best, I believe as the meta against Rob develops he’ll fall behind characters with more consistent range control like Sephiroth and Min Min
I would like a “why no one plays toon link”. Just to put some notoriety on our boy
I used to play as rob all the time in brawl. I'm so glad he's getting the attention he should have now
Why no one plays Pikachu please 😁
Pika is just too technical and dies too hard if you mess him up much.
Rob has been slept on since smash 4. Nobody paid attention to his insane advantage state in that game, he got buffs in ultimate and went under the radar through all of the patches.
Here before it premieres. Why is he played so much? Well he has great boxing options in fair, f-tilt, up-tilt, and the infamous down-tilt at frame 3 iirc. Also Gryo is a very strong projectile that makes him very good at keep away and forcing you to play his game
2:45 Correction: R.O.B. (Robot) was a perhipheral for the Famicom (NES), not the Super Famicom (SNES). :3
Can’t wait for “Why EVERYONE PLAYS: Mr. Game & Watch and Pac-Man.” I hope, though…
Excellent video. I secondary ROB and this video describes my motivations for picking him up perfectly 🥰
I always use R.O.B. He just has awesome powers and he’s perfect for anything.
He plays very well
For whatever God forsaken reason, I main Mac. My down tilt ties rob's at fame 3. But I can't even imagine how much nicer my life would be if mine were -5 on shield instead of the -13 that it is.
Would love to see a why noone plays on banjo
I’ve been playing since Smash 4, Wiigi taught me a lot of useful tools. Back when it was a C Tier character. Now it is top 10. You have no idea how far this character has come.
so this is where the leo rob came from
You should definitely do a Kirby. He may or may not be my best character so I’m curious
Would be nice some video about cloud and why nobody plays him
damn I've been maining ROB since his inclusion in Brawl, i've never been anywhere near competitive play but it's kinda nuts he's actually in the spotlight now
He really doesn’t have many disadvantages other than getting combo’d a little bit. He can zone and he can box. On top of that he’s simple to use and REALLY fun to play as. Complain all you want about how prevalent he is in the meta but I think he was designed very well in this game.
Having too many advantages and no disadvantages is the opposite of being "designed well". A character shouldn't be great at zoning AND boxing, without sufficient weaknesses.
Little Mac’s Down Tilt is also frame 3
He's just so cute lol. He go beep boop
Im watching Vars one for quite a while now and also every video on Vars 3 (not vars 2 cause i dislike genshin impact alot) and also with a graphic designing background i never disliked any thumbnail you made, all were really well designed and appealing to my personal eye but i think for this one the rob with the red arms which is in some countrys also the basic alternate color would allow you to a much more dynamic and less gray thumbnail since gray often looks empty.
I dont wanna say the thumbnails looks bad your designs on thumbnails is well enough to make up for it i just wanted to give you the feedback since it is the first time there is a single thing even tho i can see why you decided for the all grey rob.
If you see this have a nice day i really enjoy the content! Keep it up!
It would be great to have a video on Kazuya , the fact that everyone cries about this character yet he is nowhere to be seen in the higher level of play (exept for Riddles who is absolutely insane). It would also be a good oportunity for you to give us your opinion on "overpowered" characters (recently Steve and Kazu) and the way the community handles them.
Just for information ken and ryu light down tilt is frame 2 (and maybe best move for them)
The only reason I play R.O.B is that one AVGN video
Thank you Raid shadow Legends for feeding my man!
Two Words : Down Tilt
no but seriously that move is One of the best in the game, kinda ironic thinking Rob has Always been a Low tier until now
11:50 and hard cries on Twitter
He was found to be a Steve counterpick, so everyone's going to play R.O.B. now
hes not a steve counterpick
Pretty sure Steves have been fighting ROBs nonstop since they are the most prevalent characters in the game. Since plenty of Steves still pass the ROB army, I wouldn't say they are hard counters the way Minmin seems to be. They aren't bad in the matchup if you know what you're doing though.
As I ROB player from Smash 4, I happy but also sad that ROB is really good, because it’s more fun to play him now but also I get dissed on by my friends for playing the broken character, also I liked playing a niche character, which he is not anymore.
What's the music at the end of the video? I loved it
This channel is low-key the new "Art of Smash" series for the current SSBU meta.
I wouldn't go that far. Art of Smash teaches you how to play the game, while my videos analyze the game itself and the characters.
@@VarsIII you're modest, but I think it's just as relevant at this time in the meta. A lot of Art of Smash was released as the game was being developed, and now the dust is finally settling for the first time.
Spin to win
Another one you gotta do is why everyone plays Palutena
I’d be very interested by a « Why nobody plays Greninja » video. As a casual I just dont understand how a character with such recovery, combo game and general mobility isnt everywhere. Also sais to be a great solution against Min Mins.
It takes a LOT of time to effectively pilot Greninja, very high skill floor with a debatedly high ceiling. Lots of nuance and a need to be precise with his kill confirms (not as bad as Sheik but comparable) and his main spacing tools, in addition to a lackluster OOS game. A lot of his matchups rely on the effective spacing of his FAir, which isn't easy to hit unless you practice it vigorously. There's a lot to love about Greninja and he doesn't lose many matchups, and loses almost none badly, but there are other characters that require roughly the same time input to get truly good at (Joker, Pikachu, arguably ZSS+Sheik) with a higher ceiling and overall better results. Greninja is hard to play but it's even harder to take him all the way to the top, and this game favors easier characters and counterpick secondaries. Just my 2 cents, as a Greninja furiously trying to get good 😂.
*MKLeo Activated*
He's broken, easy, and cheeses stocks like no other