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Thanks for this reaction, Guys.
I followed one of the teams that were most mentioned here:Millwall, and who were one of the two combatants in "Green Street Hooligans" .
After attending 1,776 matches, mostly Millwall, since 1962 at 84 different grounds all over the Country,I have NEVER been involved in a single incident though I have seen a great deal and had some narrow escapes and had to think quickly, sometimes back in the 1970's/1980's :)
typical american racist shit.
You want to check out Glasgow rangers v celtic it's more than football
Take a look at my comment and seriously consider watching the movie , THE FIRM , Because thats how it was back in the day and how it was orgsnised and acted out on saturdays and the odd midweek game , Trust me we were there
Important point, the video mentioned Hillsborough but didn’t make clear that this tragedy wasn’t hooliganism but rather police incompetence. The government of the time, along with the police and supported by certain media outlets, tried to cover it up by blaming hooliganism, but it wasn’t.
Exactly, a misplaced clip. Hillsborough was a national tragedy. Hooliganism is just bored scum being bored scum.
David Duckinfield was the hooligan there
It also showed the Bradford City fire at the start. That was down to poor fire safety not hooliganism
I love how you sugarcoated the fact many fans that went in jumped the turnstiles of an old stadium that shouldn't have even been allowed the game to go on.
Policing didn't help but the Hillsborough the stadium was not up to snuff. Even for the time. And "Hooligans" made it worse by overcrowding the stadium.
@@METALFREAK03no they did not. The police were there and allowed everyone to go through.
Those people were packed in so tighgt they died.
Ex prime minister David Cameron even said " the conspiracy was true facts"
And please leave Hillsborough out of it as it had NOTHING to do with hooliganism !
it did have a lot to do with the context it was mentioned in the clip.. both heysall and hillsborough changed the face of football in rule changes and how they are managed
@@saintdon4461 It was folks trying to get into the ground coupled with bad policing. They went in a wrong gate causing a crush from which fencing prevented a means of exit. Crowds don't always behave rationally but there was no hooliganism, read the reports not the press.
Well said mate! What a prize prick.@thesedreamsarefree
@thesedreamsarefree Hooliganism played a part. Liverpool fans were not hooligans that day, obviously. But the spectre of hooliganism followed big football matches everywhere and affected how large gatherings of fans were viewed and treated.
As a man u fan and Salford lad 100% Hillsborough was a police cover up nobody unless there a knob blames the Liverpool supporters
Only thing I'd add is the bit at the end with foreign hooligans having an issue with English hooligans, calling them 'posers' etc. is generally predicated on the fact that hooliganism in England has died down massively and by the time it became a thing in Europe, most of England had moved on. European hooligans somewhat 'missed the boat' and seem to want to try and revive the golden era of it but don't have the same circumstances or reasons to do so. So they're effectively trying to goad what remains of English hooligans into returning and bringing the culture of it back.
In truth, the European hooligans aren't more violent than the English firms were in the '80s, as that resulted in, sadly and horribly, many deaths, murders and serious incidents. But Eastern Europe and Southern Europe is really the last refuge of Hooliganism even though it's a shadow of what it was.
I personally am not a fan of football hooliganism, I think it's foolish and a waste of time and energy that could be used for positive societal change. But there is a deep irony in the modern European hooligans calling the English hooligans 'posers' when hooliganism was born, lived and died in Britain before it ever really went to Europe. And they're calling the now 50 and 60+ year old former hooligans 'posers' for not still taking part in it. It's an embarrassing stance to take.
Everyone involved needs to direct their energy to something productive.
Everyone is soft nowadays as well.
Exactly. Like The Russians attacking the English fans in France expecting it to be like 70's and 80's all over again. Times moved on and all the people who were up for it were banned.
Yes and you only need to look at the awesome and ancient still practiced tradition of Shrovetide ball games like seen today at atherstone uk
@TheTyke - 💯
The Russians are embarrassing and a joke. They had plenty of opportunities in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
It was like going behind enemy lines when your team played away crazy times.
I’m a Manchester United fan,now 70 but back in the 70’s and right through the 80’s,we travelled the land and the continent and took on who ever felt the same towards us.
The Adrenalin rush cannot be described.
We always kept away from “normal” fans and any violence was confined to the opposition like-minded lads and NOT with the general public.
As for the Russians claims,it’s complete bollocks.
In 2016,they attacked dads with their kids and kept away from OUR hooligans and then claimed victory over the English,backed by madman Putin.
I could write several books recounting those crazy crazy days.
Glory seeker
Except when it came to visiting The OLD Den on the 16th September 1974 when The "mighty" Red Army that, regularly, took 10,000 away could not muster a Battalion or Brigade let alone an Aemy mire a squad:)
Almost 50 years later Millwall are still waiting for them to show and I am getting the distinct feeling that they ain't coming
@@Isleofskye I was at that game and if you were there too,then you’d know the specials bringing the hordes from Manchester broke down miles away from Euston.
I remember when you came to Old Trafford.
Never seen so many fast runners as your lot.
@@TheCornishCockney There was a minor technicality in that the trains didn't pass Stockport but I think it's because United had second thoughts and pulled the emergency
chord🏭
"The hordes??? Never heard 20 geezers referred to as "hordes" before. lol
Fast Runners? Well, we were sponsored by Dunlop. 😀 Also,we got tired of locals asking us the time.Didn't any of them own a watch? lol
Are you for real,I've seen loads of fat so called english hooligans lol,getting battered by military trained fit Russians.Dream on daydreamer.
The Hesel stadium was not fit to play football in , it was falling apart and its still a cover up by Euafa wanting to distance themselves from it
Forget watching Green Street, it`s what Hollywood thinks it`s like.... It isn`t. Watch Rise of the Footsoldier instead
Watch ID, on of the first football hooligan films
@@chrispeters4353I was going to suggest the same.
@DaveLongcock That's the one I meant lol
Green Street is a British film ya clown
Arriverderci Millwall ? . Never gets much of a mention and is worth a watch !
Most 70s and 80s young men were brought up in good families with values, many young men just like to live life on the edge all be it Motorcycles, cars, fighting, football, drinking, etc. Living on the edge, adrenalin, testosterone, fear. Allways has and always will be. Needs channelling in the right direction. National service for example.
Lead poisoning was rampant, crime always falls 20 years after lead is removed from petrol, the UK is no exception. 20 years fter lead is removed, Violence falls year on year as the number of people from older more violent generations due to infant lead poisoning ages out of being able to commit as much violence.
Hard study, during the week, and rugby on Saturday was always an option, poppet.
Tbh grooming gang culture is a bit more hated in Britain than football hooliganism.
To true was about to write this !
Hillsborough should not have even been mentioned in any shape or form. That was a tragedy, not hooligans.
They weren't hated.
The casuals were icons for generations of young British lads, and had en entire fashion industry built around it.
great times
Greatet by mounted police on arrival
To be fair, they were very looked down on by the rugby crowd. For us they were seen as cowardly. A lot of the lads would refuse to interact with football entirely as the whole thing felt too effeminate. To us they were known for attacking women and old men and always running from 1 v 1's. Hate might be too strong a word but it was somewhere in that league.
@@BadgerUKvideo Crap.
@@CoalMiningTown I'm from Lutterworth, 6 miles from the town of Rugby. 2nd oldest team.
The two best hooligan films by far are 'The Firm' and The Football Factory'. Much better than Green Street.
100%
I.D still my favourite.
Gary oldman in the Firm
Green street is cringe honestly
@@asl7235 good definitely definitely compared to green st 🤣
The rave scene brought an end to it extacy
British kids started doing ecstasy and taking EDM to a whole new level by the late 80's, youth culture had shifted from violence to dancing for 10 hours straight!
It was NOT EDM, it was House music
@@teem9644 Semantics...
the point remains
It has been well documented that the 'old boys' came back again, for example Euro '96 around Trafalgar Square when things got interesting it was mostly age 30-40, not the young ravers.
One theory is that the hooligans from the 70's and early 80's vanished partly due to having families and staying home more, but when the children got older, the dads came back.
I went to some European away games in the 90's and I can assure you many famous faces turned up, some from as far away as Thailand just to meet up with mates again
@@teem9644 yeah i also hate that term "edm" so disrespectful to the genres of music. house, dnb, jungle, garage, techno, and hundreds more.
After getting banged up a few times by the police a lot of us boys started going to northern soul and Motown weekends around the country still a great time with my crew
"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets." - Voltaire
A lot of things have been missed and this bloke has a simplified view.
WE ARE ALL STILL HERE BUT THIS TIME WE ARE UNITED..OUR COUNTRY IS ABOUT TO EXPOLODE INTO CIVIL UNREST LIKE NEVER SEEN BEFORE
Thanks for this reaction, Guys.
I followed one of the teams that were most mentioned here:Millwall, and who were one of the two combatants in "Green Street Hooligans" .
After attending 1,776 matches, mostly Millwall, since 1962 at 84 different grounds all over the Country,I have NEVER been involved in a single incident though I have seen a great deal and had some narrow escapes and had to think quickly, sometimes back in the 1970's/1980's :)
Yeah mate. You have this 'reputation', but 90% of Millwall lads I've ever met have been very pleasant, thoroughly decent people.
I remember we (carlisle) had Leeds at home followed by Millwall a week or 2 later. It must of been about 2005 or 06 when the films were really big. Leeds came and the city turned into a litteral battlefield that I still talk about to this day it was mental, Millwall came and we expected a bit of trouble but you guys were mostly alright with the odd flare up and scuffle which I think was your reputation doing you no favors at all because of the films. Our firm the BCF basically died after those 2 games, we definitely beat Leeds and Millwall but in the long run it completely changed our noisy end, seeing it now it was a blessing in the disguise. Our fans now in there are mostly young and just want to enjoy their days out 😊
@@jav954 That's interesting, mate. I have visited 84 different grounds and Carlisle is the only one in the Upper North West that I went to and I remember in over 1,770 games that I attended since 1062 that a policeman moved me along the terrace for swearing:)
Good Luck..
Miiiiiiii❤
@@cuttyrut1611 You know,my friend:)
I must say that was one of the best videos to explain English football.
Among the thugs is a fantastic book about an American journalist coming to the uk and immersing himself in the hooliganism 👍
Read it mate
These were the ancestors of men who took over the world during the British Empire.
There has always been something about English/British men liking a good "Tear up".
By the way,I'm working class and have never had a fight at a football match.
Edit: I was watching a pitch invasion on TV in the 80s at Millwall's ground,when the police were fighting Millwall fans,and I saw my cousin disappear under a mob of riot police!
😅
Actually these are the descendants, our ancestors are those who came before us
You’ve hit the nail on the head there, apart from the ancestors bit. The British/ English, had been involved in conflict and wars for a millennia. It was part of our DNA, especially from the 17th century and thereafter. We have an island mentality, we’re a bastard race of different warring races, whether it be Dane,Celts, Britons, Angles, Saxons. The list is endless but, regardless, we were always taught to fight and scrap for each other and for what,we deemed ,was our territory. It’s human nature, always has been, always will be. Tribalism! The British/English, were involved in some form of conflict every generation up to the 1950’s. Whether it be the fall of the empire or end of national service, every man, somehow or other, had experienced, or been witness to some form of conflict. Football hooliganism wasn’t a new thing, it has always been there from the beginning of the “sport”. What was new was that football and the people who played and watched, were the working class of the British society. A powerful movement, that in its heyday, nearly brought a government to its knees and were feared all over Europe, conquering all before them, both on and off the field. Alas, the executives and upper echelons caught on to this and, again, football is lost to the exploitive, corporate enterprises who, one way or another, manipulate and corrupt the game. Fuck the FA, fuck the EFL, fuck uefa and fifa whilst I’m at it. Fuck the European super league. Oh yeah, fuck Sky TV as well.
Those who don’t understand it..
hate it…
It’s a lot deeper than just giving someone a slap
You mentioned how the players thought about the violence. i can remember in the 80's we'd bump into a couple of players on a Saturday night and they were always interested in how we "got on" with the opposing fans.
I was 19 in 1985, and was a prominant member of a small but respected football firm. The simple truth is it was an exciting and glamourous lifestyle. We werent looking to seriously hurt other boys, just wanted to make a name for ourselves, earn respect, be somebody. We were the height of fashion, the elite social group, admired and feared, girls loved us, young lads wanted to be us.Not complicated.
Then E's appeared and all we wanted to do was dance 😂
@@martzp5535 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
A sign of the times 🏴
Come on fella what team lad haha
@@martzp5535
And now you have the Polish and Russian firms where the members are properly trained in MMA at their own clubs/gyms and they're showing sober (ish) with 2 metre tall dudes. They took it to another level 😂
I remember watching a documentary about it years ago and one of the lead figures in a russian firm was asked: "What do you think of brittish hooligans?
He replied something like this: "I respect that the hooligan culture came from there. But they are just drunks and coke heads."
I don't think he said much more than that. He honeslty didn't even see them as hooligans (by their standards) but more like drunks trying to land a punch.
I was there Sardinia Italia 90 ,I remember that crowd on the steps .They we’re steps to a church and a wedding was taking place .The church party we’re just
Coming out and the Italian police aimed tear gas towards England fans gathering on the steps.Hence to say ,the poor bride and groom legged it straight back in the Church to avoid the tear gas.
that riot was against Holland in Cagliari .The Italian police was desperate for a scrap ,antagonising England fans all day long.They got there wish at it kicked off big time against the police not the Dutch as we couldn’t get anywhere near them.
What a brave bunch you were, sweetie.
You should have attempted to pick a fight with rugby fans... That would have been a rapid eye-opener - or closer for you diddy types.
Toot toot!
Just a tiiiiny correction, or rather an addition - "ultras" and "hooligans" are different things. Ultras are the organised fans that start all the chants and songs at a game, prepare choreographies and pyro shows, and generally lead the support for the team. The fight groups in Europe are labeled "hooligans" just like in the UK. Now, obviously, an ultra group might sometimes act like hooligans, but usually the two groups are separate.
99% of the games I went were fine but local derby's were a different thing villa vs blues was always a game with trouble when I went.
I actually wrote a paper on this situation when I was studying history at university. The time was extremely difficult for the working class who were being severely marginalised. The period which followed the second world war saw a lot of government promises not kept (Specifically on housing and jobs which were promised to those who served in the war and their families) and trouble between the government and the minors (famously). It was a pretty economically tumultuous time in the UK as a whole which led to riots even outside of football. The governmens began campaign of misinformation to re-direct the blame on to others (One of the worst was they created a fictional idea that black people were all muggers, rapists and murderers). Effectively, a lot of people were angry, fedup, impoverished and I guess more than a little bored and frustrated. It was also a time when the English church was starting to see a serious decline in popularity and football stadiums actually began to replace the church as places of worship (In a manner of speaking). Hardly surprising that football hooliganism became such a problem.
As a young lad I saw a massive ruck in the north bank Highbury 76.The thing that shocked me was the age of a lot of them was 35-50 and the rest were 25+.It wasn’t about kids out of control it was grown men from a fighting race.
true... tv shows had kids as the thugs but it was always the old ones.. saw this at lot at Newcastle.. old fellas in sheepskins
@@jayveebloggs9057 lol it was Donkey jackets at Upton Park.
Great times, loved it.
Green street, as it was called in England, was a brilliant film, in my opinion, and it took me ages to realise, that it had the same star, as Sons Of A archy, which in my opinion, is the best series ever.
Regarding the clobber .Gary and the boys were from Kirkby , Halewood , Huyton and the like.
You spent a lot of time on this one, nice one.😊
It was worse than can be imagined! This was a great insight, but when you e lost friends to this but you still don’t change, it becomes normal
Respect - had heard of all the 'incidents' told here. Grew up through the 80's. Seemed like a throwback to Wartime 'echo'd' in a younger generation via Sport.
Greatly improved position in my own City, thankfully.
Regards
Guys you. Need to watch the Liverpool in Australia. You’ll never walk alone. It will make you cry. 😢😢😢❤❤❤
Really enjoyed watching you squirm during this lol great video but i wanted to add 2 things, the Hillsborough disaster wasn't the fault of the hooligans but it was a very dark day for football and its still remembered now, secondly there's a lot more depth to the reasons behind joining a firm. Probably than can be written in a comment lol. Great video though, really enjoyed that
Just getting to stadiums required military planning in order to avoid a shoeing in those days. Newcastle always had interesting days going to london. Usually 3 different firms waiting..
Walking from Manors to St James park in the eighties was no picnic !
@@troggmeister not CFC by any chance? There was a minor incident I remember around Manors post match it had been reasonably quiet up til Chelsea got to the intersection over the central motorway..or so I heard like 🙄
There is an additional factor which was the removal of the metal lead from the petrol / gasoline. Since that point, lead in people's blood reduced and there was a corresponding reduction in violent crime and behaviour - and not only in UK. :)
Spot on Kevin I remember saying to the magistrate “it’s the petrol gov. I’m all leaded up” didn’t do any good though I was found guilty 😂
I was born in 1975 and I was always scared of getting caught up in a situation 😮 he has done a good job on explaining things but it goes a lot deeper
Hi steve, mick(the con)here..hope you're well mate..have you red Bob's book..took me back seeing pics of you bob and griff as how i remember you..great days mate still miss them..stay well pal!👍👹
Alot of fans had good jobs and Saturday and Tuesday was a release.
Loved when you said ( tell me about it) the look you got from Jess .😂😂😂😂😂
You should watch the Athelstone ball game to see where football came from.
Uppies and downies Workington
I live in Atherstone , they are trying the hardest to ban it , yet when the whistle blows its finished every body has a beer together , dont like it stop away
@@markoevo uppies in downies actually has places the ball must be hailed (scored) the top part of town and bottom part,like nets in football. Isn't Atherstone rules whoever has thr ball at a certain time wins? They need to keep these old games going.
@@TheRhinog24 its just kicked up and down long street when the whistle goes its whoever hanging on to ball wins , there are no rules
@@TheRhinog24 my step mother of almost 40 years is from Workington, and uppies and Downies is a class game.
Hours long, even days long sometimes, and ancient, it is a beautiful thing to witness when Workington comes alive in summer.
A glorious experience I wish to repeat many more times.
Watch the movie “Football Factory”. It’s accurate and very funny xx
I went to hundreds of matches and only twice felt uneasy. I did arrive for the Luton v Millwall match mentioned but the Millwall violence stated violence stated before. I got in so I turned around and left. Luton’s stadium was smashed up. But as I say, loads of matches, especially out of the big cities went by without incident. Take care, you two, I like you very much.
In the early 2000's I worked in a glass window factory. On the part I worked there was a guy who was a football hooligan. He was a very well built guy ('built like a brick shithouse' as we say in the UK) who could do pressups just on his thumbs. He was intelligent and laid back - but his hobby was being a football hooligan. He was a member of some group and they used to arrange to attend football games where they would meet opposing teams hooligans just to fight. He talked about it like any guy with an interest or hobby ! I tried to understand it, but I could not. Then again, do you understand why some guys like to get in a boxing ring and punch the hell out of each other !? That is accepted violence as well. So, is it really that strange ?
I ran with a firm at chelsea in the 70s and 80s and at the time the buzz was out of this world there was nothing like it apart from charging an enemy in battle that came close , but as ive grown older and a grandad i look back and think it was bit naughty
Millwall v Chelsea in 1976 at The Den was a bit naughty as I enter my 8th decade next month....
Yet the news failed to mention the real reason why we rioted at luton..we had 15,000 fans squashed in aera that holds 6000 so yeah we ran on pitch and kicked off ..then few years later same thing happened at hillsbourgh .
@7;12 The 50th. anniversary of the Denis Law backheel at the swamp is this coming Saturday 27/04/1974. "Denis has done it" A glorious day in the history of English football.
Hey Mike & Jess did you notice a young David Icke doing the Match of the day reports?
7:05 Davide Icke before he put on his tin foil hat🤣🤣🤣!
I'm 55 and support Chelsea. It was a way of life at the time. Grew up in a time of mass unemployment, the Thatcher government. For a working class lad it was a way of getting getting rid of the pent up anger. I'm not justifying it, it was what is was. And the people you scrapped against were of the same mind. Also I was and still am a Skinhead.
I'm not or ever have been Right Wing or racist.
I agree with you completely that the strong moral family unit is the best solution to society.
After a Rugby match fan's from opposing team's, usually meet up & have a drink together, discussing the game, there's none of the violence associated with football, even when playing an International, it's much more family orientated, I've supported Rugby Union since the 1970s went to my first game at 22 in 1971& can't remember any fan disruptions or violence at home or abroad, fan's try to out sing each other during the match &, the song's are none inflammatory, as with football, fan's mingle after the game going there separate ways with a laugh & joke a life long 🏴 ( Welsh) Supporter.
I lived through these times, it was scary to watch on TV and I could never imagine being in the middle of that. I knew a guy who admitted he'd been a football hooligan and he loved the fights. But we were having a few beers one night and he confessed to me that he thinks he killed someone, but he couldn't find out what happened to his victim. He's haunted by that. Violence is never a good thing.
Going to the matches in the 80's as a young boy was an experience let me tell you.
His video on Skinheads is really interesting.
Mob Football is still a thing in a handful of towns and villages in England. Look up 'Haxey Hood', ‘The Sedgefield Ball Game’ and ‘Cornish Hurling’
Your explanation starting at 19.30 is spot on - you nailed it.
hahah it shows my hometown Hastings when the mods and rockers used to come down :D
I was at the heysal. It should have been a better managed groud, I still think of it alot, it was a tragedy. I am a liverpool soporter and it could have all be avoided. People involved in organising it should have been made to explain. R i P too the people so wrongly lost.
Hi, The oldest game of football is quite a riot, a game played once a year and called Royal Shrovetide Football, it is crazy lol there is one rule to the game,, you cannot kill someone
They still have a Shrovetide Football 'game' yearly in Ashbourne, Derbyshire. Fun times!!
football haha, never were up to what we rugby players do were they
@@TheDocumentarian01 I like Union Rugby, i went off league when they kept changing the rules. My favourite to watch is the Isle of Man TT
Jimmy's come a long way since he started out as a parkour vlogger 😆
You need to watch an old uk film called "I.D" with Sean Pertwee.
It mixes up police interaction with football hooligans.
Much better film than Green Street in my opinion.
Jess talks alot of sence.. When shes talking abot family life.. But Can I say as a manchester United fan who dont like Liverpool FC. Hillsborough was not Football Hooligans.. It was the police who got it wrong opened gates to let fans in.When they should not of done so. Then try to cover it up with lies once things did go wrong. And its been proved in the hillsborough independent panel report.
What the biggest change in English football was Hillsborough disaster, when 90 Liverpool fans died due to incompetence of the Authorities. Who blamed the fans and took today to get justice.
Society was violent in the 70s and 80s with a lot of youth gangs and drunken violence in pubs, clubs and town centers. Football violence was just the most dramatic and newsworthy aspect of the national thuggery.
The 1st team mentioned in your reaction vid is Preston vs Aston Villa from the late 1800's when the game was abandoned for rioting. The link is at Preston (Deepdale) 130 odd years later against our most hated rivals Blackpool. In Lancashire we have about 25 pro teams all within 40 miles of each other. Teams which include Man utd, city, liverpool, preston, bolton, blackburn, Burnley. I think you were sort of right in your thoughts. We were seperated frm mainland Europe approx 90000 years ago and obviously over this period, these settlements/tribes have grown up and have learnt to defend and be curious of other towns/tribes, especially when they turn up on mass on a Saturday afternoon to chant at you how shit your town is ! Lol Its also true that the levrl of violence at footy often represents the level of discontentment and lack of opportunity there is in said communities. Good vid guys.
P.s. my team Preston North End are the pitch invaders who are humerously dispersed by police horses. Its filmed by a cesspool fan. Unfortunately a steward does get mildly trampled but he was fine after they sewed his head back on !! 😊
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A similsr thing happened in the US when they had the origin of the motorcycle gangs after the second world war.We ended up with the hooligans.
Interesting stuff. I lived through it, although it wasn't as bad in Scotland. Strangely, the two rival clubs from Dundee had just the one firm. However, "England would go to war... twice." Of course, no Scots, Irish or Welsh were involved. Pffft! The conflating of England with the UK is just aggravating.
The rave culture was the most happiest......hahahah
Manchester United on the road in the 70s and 80s unstoppable I’m 71 now but remember having some great tear ups all round the country and abroad
P.s my picture is of Fred the red Manchester United mascot
Did you come to Newcastle in the 80's Mr Unstoppable
My dad said when you visited Cardiff was naughty...
I'm Scottish but have family in England, me and my mum used to watch the United players train at the cliff in Salford when we were down. That was back in Cantona and Giggs and Scholes days
Minute 15:48 - Unluckly players are concentrated mainly on the money the get. After that deadly game where 39 people died, the players winners of that match (Juventus club) came back to Italy and made a great party to celebrate the cup they won, with all players smiling and taking photos and not a single word was pronounced during that celebration in memory of the 39 people that died while they were playing the match.... Yes, because "the show must go on" and they played the entire match while dead bodies where carried over by ambulances
A disgusting chapter for English and Italian football and Juventus club
What is failed to be taken in account with Hysel was that the stadium was crumbling, that both clubs executives begged UEFA to change the location but were ignored. Not taking anything from the unnecessary violence, but there were more factors to thw deaths than just the fighting.
Also even when ultras from Italy or Russia are kicking off and English supporters are no where near or are attacked, the English are always blamed. Its sickening and I'm fed up with the blantant biases against us.
Great vid as always guys I'll make a recommendation ultras our way of life it's mental football fans and if u want a nice vid the beauty of football greatest moments it's it's really good love from the UK both x
I think the redesign of stadiums after Hillsborough had the biggest impact. Liverpool were playing Nottingham Forest in an FA Cup Semi Final in 1989 at a neutral venue Hillsborough in Sheffield. Were 96 people (old and young) were crushed to death due to stadium design and poor policing. It's now 97 as someone else recently died from the injuries sustained that day.
Then stadiums became all seater. Beforehand you could stand next to away fans abd cause trouble. Once you're seated it becomes harder.
Only over the last few seasons have clubs started to introduce safe standing areas.
Even though families still go to games it's still a mans game and the language is still fruity 😂. Only last weekend I went to a friendly were our fans were telling the other sides Mascot to duck off you banker as he came around waving. Tbh I think some fans wanted to kick his arse and yeah there were loads of kids there.
I live in London between 3 of the most dangerous football clubs in in the World. They are Crysral Palace to the top (North), West Ham to the South West a few miles away and Milwall to the South a few blocks away. The worst in that lot is Milwall. But things have calm down a bit now. It used to be worse in the 1970s and 1980s but things have calm down a bit because of stricter laws. One of the biggest rivalry and very infamous was Leeds (up North in Yokshire) vs Milwall ( Southern London) better known as the 'Den.' This rivalry is still there and can flare up any moment.
Everyone hates Leeds, especially us lot next door in Bradford.
Straight bEllands those Leeds whoppers.
@NiSiochainGanSaoirse ah yes Bradford, the abominable sphincter of Yorkshire. I had totally forgotten you had football teams mainly due to your utter irrelevance in modern football. Mainly home to religious extremists, extreme poverty, sex trafficking, child grooming gangs and the erosion of British values. Bravo for Bradfordians how proud you must all be. Utter wet wipes the lot of you. Does Bradford even still qualify as a city?
Palarse😂😂 You been smoking the funny stuff. The Nigel's are only a danger to themselves should they fall off the platform whilst train spotting
@@markblackburn5572 man tried to throw Crystal Palace in there as if nobody would notice 😂😂😂
Palace ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nice reaction you need to react to -
Football hooligans 2015
You wil like it
Just at weejend hibs and motherwell went at it 💪🏻🏴
Followed my Team at away games through the 60s and early 70s very often we had to plan our escapes from their stadiums and run for your life to get to the rail station it became part of the day out, if you got caught by the home fans not such a good day out, what a buzz though when you had out run them, the adrenaline rush, wow, am an old man now but lived to tell the tale.
It died down in the late 80,s because everyone
Most of the casuals got in to house music and extascy
It's a hard thing to admit for me but Glasgow Rangers (my team) were probably the most organised for decades. They also take the biggest travelling support anywhere. In 1972 however, the Rangers fans didn't fight opponents but the fascist Spanish Police. What people didn't realise was that local people in Barcelona loved the way the fans fought back against Francos police and gave us an award despite the fact they banned us from Europe.
This street ball still happens in town near me called Atherstone ball game
That Real Football Factories documentary has an INTERNATIONAL version, where the host Danny ODyer travels to Brazil, Argentina, Italy, Poland, Russia, Germany, etc, to check the firms/ultras/hinchadas/torcidas organizadas culture.
before i went away, I went with Man United in the 90's. The thing is, if you dont have a firm and the other team has, then normal straight members just going to the game are gonna get battered. So it's always reassuring when you have a firm, especially at away games where they hate you, ready to do the business and fight for the club off the pitch.
Hooliganism today is at a far lower level than it was in the 1970/80s. Supporters will always bait each other in the stadium, but segregation stops them from mixing. Outside the stadium, coaches/buses that bring the visitors are normally parked in close proximity to their exits and home supporters are not allowed near them. There will be occasional clashes between individuals but I don’t think the gang set ups are still thriving as they once did.
Lots of games cost over a million pounds to police, particularly the category 1 games like Leeds Millwall, West ham Chelsea, and many more.
Policing football games is a huge operation in the UK and our British police take it very very seriously.
Two lads I know got over 4 years each for football related violence
I've commented on this video before, but I just wanted to add after the belonging comments. When something goes wrong and fans get brought together we are called the Football Family. But football is sometimes the one place where everyone around thinks the same things. Me and my are season ticket holders and everyone around has been in the same seats for years. It feels like family. Hooligans might not be a big thing anymore but every club still has a naughty corner in their ground, where fans are up for a scrap against the opposing fans.
You are completely of the mark. Hooligans were from good old fashioned families. Some hooligans went to university. English fans showed they come from a warrior mentality. How else did they conquer half the world. By the way I am not English.
We are just reacting to a video we were sent by someone who lives in the UK 🤷
I know you are. Unless you visit England you have no idea. Most Americans think English people are all posh and wear bowler hats and ties. In short they like to drink snd fight was my point it’s that simple.
CCTV ruined my Saturday punch up in 1986 , it wasn't worth getting locked up for
it’s very rare football violence in England these days, most fans seem to be respectful towards each other these days, very safe to watch football these days.💙✌🏽💙
It kicked off in the late 80s and early 90s... but to this day I would NEVER take my children to a football game as its a vile place! Not just violence but the stuff people shout is not for childrens ears!
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In 1990 all the firms came together for the World Cup in Italy. The Italians were so worried about us that they put us on an island away from the mainland. As we walked en masse through deserted streets with boarded up shop windows and a legion of Police escorting us, we felt great! We felt we were special tbh. It was like we were some kind of feared virus that had arrived on their island 😂 it was a buzz and an experience but now we’re all old and settled with kids and grandkids, great days though 👍🇬🇧🏴
Always made me laugh, Maggie deploring the aggression and violence in the young men of England. The same attitude she rejoiced in the men she sent 8000 miles to take back the Falklands in 1982...
Big difference between scrapping in the street over football and going to war with a military dictatorship Junta who took an island where 99.8 percent voted to stay British that’s like comparing apples and tooth brushes
The Iron Lady 🇬🇧
In my opinion, 'The Football Factory' is the movie to see for a more gritty take on football hooliganism than 'Green Street'
More realistic
@@jm-np4mu undoubtedly
ID is definitely worth watching.
I love football hooligan and firm movies. Green Street is one of my favourites but its definitely Hollywood's take on things. Football factory and the firm were good too. Guvernors is another good one
@@rosita3528 The original 'The Firm' with Gary Oldman is a cult classic
1984 Battle of Orgreave happened near where I live
Most of it was running about and being loud, looks much worse than it was. So what was it about? Deprivation? Aggression? The need for identity? To let off steam? Nah, it came down to immaturity in a lot of cases, ego, compensation for feeling small in a big world in which to consume and project identity as a product of that consumption had become all important. There were no mods, rockers or football hooligans before the 50s and 60s because young folks, like everyone else, worked hard, if they had jobs for wages which hardly kept them alive. They started families young, rented houses and struggled to put bread on the table. There was also little to spend spare cash on even if they had any. The consumer society began in the late 50s along with improved wages and high levels of employment giving young people money to spend. Technologies improved, culture, such as rock'n'roll changed, fashions became available and egos looked for a way to express themselves. Young people were suddenly somebody and at the same time nobody. Since most young egos felt helpless on their own they looked for the approval of crowds, exploited by both the high street (record stores, fashion outlets) and the media (who in part created the cultures young people were identifying with). These days there are so many different things to do the crowd has fragmented, youth culture has changed, become more sophisticated, the internet, social media, a different way for egos to express themselves, a crowd in the cloud rather than on the streets. Most kids are better educated these days too. Anyone who watches the film Kes will see the type of kid who became a football hooligan (though nothing like that in the film), uneducated, at odds with a system which wasn't really interested in educating them in the first place. Working class kids rarely went to university in those days, they were meant to work down the pits, in steelworks, on the docks, etc, hope of little else. Sooner or later they'd find girlfriends, start families, settle down, but before that, money in their pockets, no real means of expressing themselves, going down the pub, proving themselves to their mates and football, the love affair between a fan and the team colours, the euphoria when the ball hits the back of the net, the collective joy, the crowd mentality. Nowadays they're all nostalgic for places they've never been to, things they never did and voting Reform UK.
all isn't what it seems,the media always puts out the bad...in recent years,the worst of the worst millwall had collection buckets collecting for the the family of 2 little boys mowed down and killed by a drugged up immigrant car driver,they raised thousands of pounds...the whole football fan community mourned the death of little bradley lowery who supported sunderland,he died from a rare form of cancer aged 6..these stories rarely emerge because its not newsworthy here
I'm so glad we don't have hooliganism in the states bc mixing that with our heavy gun culture would be disastrous
Being English and travelling to different countries for football is a nightmare. Because of the past foreign fans want to fight the English. We defend ourselves and fight back then we get the bad press.