The Circle of Fifths in Romantic Music

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  • @soratonin
    @soratonin Рік тому +62

    Wake up babe new Caleb Hu video

  • @jeffrey3756
    @jeffrey3756 Рік тому +30

    schumann over here using circle of fifths in literally every piece he writes:

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383  Рік тому +17

      So did Bach

    • @jeffrey3756
      @jeffrey3756 9 місяців тому +1

      @@calebhu6383 i wonder where schumann learnt that from lol

  • @mazeppa1231
    @mazeppa1231 Рік тому +23

    To me, one of the most impressive circle of fifths progressions I can recall comes from Liszt's Ranz de Vaches where in a span of 5-10 seconds, the key changes 5-6 times. And it does each key in major-minor-major-minor, continuing from the previous note. On paper, it just goes down a fifth, yet on ear, it sounds like a crazy, mysterious, fairy-like progression.

    • @nandovancreij
      @nandovancreij Рік тому +2

      can u link a timestamp of this progression? would save me time since im not familiar with the piece

    • @TheModicaLiszt
      @TheModicaLiszt Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/KnhqsOxtwG8/v-deo.html&feature=sharea at 07:36

    • @BBB-hi4hc
      @BBB-hi4hc Рік тому +2

      ​@@nandovancreij7:35 on Andrei's video, I believe.

  • @kylemiske6389
    @kylemiske6389 Рік тому +9

    Love these circle of fifths videos because it introduces so much good piano repertoire that I haven't even come across. Ive gotten more into composers because of videos like this Scriabin especially (who is also amazing with chord progression) who is a very under appreciated composer most of the time. Now that I see Schumann piano sonatas in this video I think I should listen to his solo works more often now lol.

  • @damienheemskerk
    @damienheemskerk Рік тому +7

    I love fifth sequences so much, the best one for me has to be in the climax of the fugue from Franck's prelude chorale and fugue. Pretty genius stuff there...

  • @imdarealani
    @imdarealani Рік тому +12

    Once again, incredibly well executed idea! I'm guessing modern will take significantly more time, so I'll definitely take the time to rewatch this.

  • @ConcordMass
    @ConcordMass Рік тому +7

    A pity that you didn't mention Alkan's Op. 39 No. 11 (unless I somehow missed it). The coda is just insane, and the circle of fifths is so satisfying.

  • @gottfriedwilhelmvonleibniz9033

    Oooh I was waiting for this!!! Great compilation Caleb

  • @Vincent_Xia
    @Vincent_Xia Рік тому +6

    One of my favourite instances of descending fifths not shown here is the coda of Chopin's Op. 56 No. 1 mazurka. Besides already being one of my favourite Chopin mazurkas, it might be my favourite ending to any of the Chopin mazurkas.

  • @smallerrice7479
    @smallerrice7479 Рік тому +2

    love the Alkan is almost all played by Hamelin!!
    really, we need more people playing and listening to Alkan
    and many more other now less famous composers

  • @MichaelConwayBaker
    @MichaelConwayBaker 28 днів тому +1

    The Baroque era is the best example.

  • @MichaelConwayBaker
    @MichaelConwayBaker 28 днів тому

    The first etude is the best example of the use of the circle of fifths.

  • @aytahnbenavi
    @aytahnbenavi Рік тому +2

    Always a good day when you upload, love this series!

  • @marco119w7
    @marco119w7 Рік тому +5

    Some more examples that come to mind:
    Mendelssohn op.67 no.2 (the entire piece lol)
    Schumann Novelette op.21 no.6 (middle section)
    Schumann Liederkris op.39 no.7
    Rachmaninoff Moment Musicaux op.16 no.3 (main theme)

  • @collinm.4652
    @collinm.4652 Рік тому +4

    A lot of these I never knew had the circle of fifths in them but after you pointed it out it seems so obvious lol.

  • @blackhole3407
    @blackhole3407 Рік тому +4

    Schumann sure did like circle of fifths

  • @carterday17
    @carterday17 8 місяців тому

    Never knew that part of the nocturne op 9 was the circle of fifths. That’s always been my favorite part

  • @LearnCompositionOnline
    @LearnCompositionOnline Рік тому +2

    Excellent compilation! saved ot my playlist. I did one , but for barroque music, years ago. YOu are talking about sequences, not circle of fifths.

  • @-.a
    @-.a Рік тому +3

    god tier video, please make part 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM Рік тому +1

      This already is part 2

  • @Real_Scriabin_Official
    @Real_Scriabin_Official Рік тому +5

    I totally agree with the claim that the 5ths in the Schumann op.11 sonata are some of the best in piano music!

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Рік тому

    Chopin's employing Bach-esque ornaments reminds me of impressionists' homage to baroque composers (such as in Ravel La Tombeau de Couperin). I might be stupid to get reminded of works that have got nothing to do with Chopin's PC1. (1:38)

  • @romulo-mello
    @romulo-mello 10 місяців тому

    You're missing one of the best - Rachmaninoff piano concerto no. 2 at the very beginning. A giant build up that climaxes at an incredibly harmonized circle of fifths progression

    • @jameswang606
      @jameswang606 8 місяців тому +1

      This video seems to stop before the 20th century

  • @nandovancreij
    @nandovancreij Рік тому

    long awaited

  • @joshscores3360
    @joshscores3360 Рік тому +1

    Are you planning on a 20th century follow up vid? Featuring for example Ponce's Intermezzo 1?
    Also dang I was gonna ask you about Ravina's Etude 22 earlier today.
    Great upload anyway

  • @VepiumOfficial
    @VepiumOfficial Рік тому +1

    I love your videos

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 місяці тому

    There's circle of fifths in the second theme of the first movement of Scriabin's 3rd sonata and also in end of the first section in the 2nd movement.

  • @_rstcm
    @_rstcm Рік тому +4

    Is part 3 going to be 20th century music....if there is a part 3 planned?

  • @pablobear4241
    @pablobear4241 Рік тому

    Did you mean mean David saperton? I love this video very educational

  • @blackhole3407
    @blackhole3407 Рік тому +1

    Do you plan to make a part 3?

  • @Vincent_Xia
    @Vincent_Xia Рік тому +3

    29:05 Ascending fifths, not descending fifths

  • @imdarealani
    @imdarealani Рік тому

    Are there any more impressionistic examples of the progression that anyone knows about?

  • @thekeyoflifepiano
    @thekeyoflifepiano Рік тому +1

    Can you name some romantic pieces that don't use the fifths progression much?

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383  Рік тому +4

      There's a lot. I think most Liszt pieces don't.

  • @banaverhel
    @banaverhel Рік тому +1

    5:57 I think you merged Wanda Landowska and Janina Fiałkowska into one person.

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383  Рік тому +2

      Haha I think I did. It's Janina

    • @banaverhel
      @banaverhel Рік тому

      @@calebhu6383Also I forgot to mention that this is a really well done video. I have been looking for something like this for a while and this hits the spot.

  • @stravinskyfan
    @stravinskyfan Рік тому +2

    19:46

  • @lucastournier6085
    @lucastournier6085 5 місяців тому

    3 Klavierstücke [D946] of Schubet use it !!

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383  4 місяці тому

      Schubert is in the Classical/Baroque video for fifths, not Romantic.

    • @lucastournier6085
      @lucastournier6085 4 місяці тому

      @@calebhu6383 yeah yeah u right

  • @alanleoneldavid1787
    @alanleoneldavid1787 Рік тому +1

    I'vw Lost the opportunity to be the first comment 😢

    • @collinm.4652
      @collinm.4652 Рік тому +1

      You could always be the 47th comment

  • @DynastieArtistique
    @DynastieArtistique Рік тому

    Why no orchestral music in here?

  • @자감-x4s
    @자감-x4s 16 днів тому

    35:18

  • @ryzikx
    @ryzikx Рік тому

    first

  • @MichaelConwayBaker
    @MichaelConwayBaker 28 днів тому

    Too many examples from one composer!!

  • @Medtszkowski
    @Medtszkowski Рік тому +4

    36:50 yuck. That is disgustingly too fast.

    • @ShutUpZewenThisIsNotBased
      @ShutUpZewenThisIsNotBased Рік тому +2

      No

    • @Medtszkowski
      @Medtszkowski Рік тому +1

      @@ShutUpZewenThisIsNotBased yes it is. Listen to cziffras recording. When you play it this fast it becomes completely unsentimental

    • @ShutUpZewenThisIsNotBased
      @ShutUpZewenThisIsNotBased Рік тому +2

      @@Medtszkowski no

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383  Рік тому +11

      I can see an argument for both sides, the faster one has more color resembling water, the slower one is more relaxed and sentimental

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM Рік тому +1

      no