Hi guys, just in case you missed the disclaimer at 00:30, this is Global Test Server and some things could still change in the official release, just like always. :) Edit: I misread the skill description of Chilling Field in game. It should be 25s cooldown and 30s duration. Thanks to @Scrivania for letting us know!
Sorry, i read online that the cold field lasts for 30 seconds and the ability has 25 seconds cooldown, but u said that the cold field lasts for 25 seconds, Who is right? You or tof website?
@@MousuTV np sir, my friend told me infact that with alyss you always have to be in the cold field, so that is why i asked you if they were right or not. Because you have to refresh the cold field during the last 5 seconds
alyss with usually be priority with discharge. saki second if you happen to have it up. lin's discharge takes too long and doesnt deal burst dmg making it not the best when alyss hits global
For DPS, it tends to go to Alyss in this setup but it will still depend on the situation. Also might be different in Bygone since Saki I believe has a damage bonus in Bygone for being a tank weapon. For Discharge, if you want to group up enemies, Lin will help in that Regard. For fast shatter, discharge + skill of Saki will be good. Paying attention to the timing of rotation for Surge may also be a factor. As for Alyss, I'm worried about the low multiplier if it remains unchanged on official release. But if it's A3, for sure it will be nice.
For Annabella, as soon as you choose the bullet, it will copy it (visually) and do auto discharge. There will be no damage from the skill itself. For Ruby, there will be 2 cubes.
Dun sa passive boss nakikita siya sa description ng skill. Kapag everytime nagdidischarge using frost weapon, may additional damage lang, then papalakasin lang yung additional damage.
@@Jacobb.. so a1 alyss not even an upgrade in my current frost team? well actually idc that much if the dmg will be lower, cause i just want to play alyss. just want to ask who do you think have less synergy with a1 alyss between those three?
Hmm. I honestly wouldn't recommend it but if you want to play her, she will do okay with that lineup but you would need to improve meryl more. Or if you are planning to play frost in the future and pull for the new weapons that would be okay too.
The auto-discharge and auto-skill only works on Flame, Volt and Physical (Altered isn't included) but it doesn't get skipped. Sometimes even 2 clones of Alyss appears.
since im still stuck at bygone 360 with Lin A2/Tsubasa A6, Frigg A1 and Saki A1, with no limited matrices, just Samir, Crow and Shiro, will try to have her at A1, and i know that in global as i heard or someone said to me, it might be better to A3 them sadly but i can't....
@@MousuTV true.... as long i can get it, though i have to "umph" my way through is a bit hard now since im a liitle underpowered or so.... even normal SSR matrices cant eveb budge it :'D..... and since global is different than CN, i really need to face reality that A1 might be useless if i wont get a limited matrices i think...... maybe in CN i might be powerful for A1 already than wasting on other advancement :'D
Not sure how to compare these since it would vary in different situation and team comps used. Alyss' damage increase work offhand whereas samir and crow are usually used for a more focused DPSing. And in a full stacked Saki Alyss Lin lineup, there isn't really someone who can be considered as "Main" dps at it always rotates to abuse the skill resets and alyss' clone. For sure Maygi will come up with numbers to explain which one is better at which scenario.
@@MousuTV i see..one more thing i heard, at first they make alyss on par with physical or slightly better but then they change it again and now she become weaker than physical and volt..is that true?
@@amirulkadir2486 Hmm. I'm not sure because I usually don't play the early versions in the test server. When I played it, the damage is already balanced. I haven't done controlled cactus parsing yet to compare vs other elements on max level and mostly played Bygone and I can feel there isn't much power creep. They might adjust it a bit more upon release though.
Hi just wanna ask I have a2 Lin as of the moment and luckily I have a1 after my second 10 pull then a4 meryl, is this comp pretty decent? since for me it I have my own style of gameplay of this comp which I don't have any problems at all looks ok to me
My advice would be to forget about Frigg and focus more on Alyss. A1 would already be enough. Frigg A0 would only give atk buff like Lin and shatter buff which I believe isn't necessary anymore with Saki and Alyss in play.
Hi, I'm currently running A1 saki, A3 Lin, and A6 tsubasa. If I replace A6 tsubasa with A1 alyss, could it impact my overall damage? Or should I try to pull for A3 Alyss? Thanks!
In general, damage-wise on cactus, probably won't change that much. However, what I can surely tell in actual combat, A1 Alyss will surely give you much better performance.
Haven't compared these in actual with controlled stats though I have a feeling (just a feeling), in general it would be Tsubasa C6 or Claudia C1... but even then that would still depend on the other 2 weapons and the matrices they use. For example, if Alyss is C3, the autocast of the discharge will be higher but Lin can't take advantage of that since it doesn't proc with the field. Or if there are Lin matrices used, etc etc.
For A1 Saki. Unfortunately, no. For Lin A6, yes it does. It seems that each ability/advancements are treated differently. For example, when she auto casts Nemesis' skill, it doesn't summon another one tower. It doesn't give another stack of Buff with Claudia's A1 too. I think that is the limitation but I'm not sure if these will be changed upon release.
Don't worry, it will be featured in detail in the next video. And yes, so far it's good, but the performance also varies with different setups and advancements.
My current comp is a1 saki a6 tsub and a6 king and i currently only have exactly 120 red nucleus so i cant decide who to get wether alyss or frigg (sadly i can only get thier a0) i need help in choosing who to get xd and btw im using a male character so im kinda worried what would alyss’ weapon would look on him it might not be appropriate lmao
I heavily do not recommend A0 Alyss.... you may risk it to A1 though, who knows u might get a copy at 80/80 hahaha! Frigg is fine but then it's an older banner so I think it might be better to focus on newer ones.
So is frigg a better choice then even if just for a0? Plus im also currently using a male char so im worried what would alyss weapon look on him xd (thank you for the previous reply!)
@@lukasbalukas7971 Hahahaha! That's the biggest problem there, using a male char and figure skating shoes lol. Yup I believe it's gonna give more value at A0 than A0 Alyss.
Hi, how's Zero matrices for Alyss on discharge it gives 28% dmg boosts for 4pc, 3*, and it lasts for 6 seconds but is spammable with a6 lin, saki and alyss. Is it usable or just stick to standard 2 pcs crow/samir?
I tested it just now, unfortunately, the matrices do not work on the auto-discharge so it will be just as usual wherein the Zero matrix user won't always be the one to cast the discharge. In terms of rotation, maybe for group play it would contribute more total damage output for the entire team but for single play I think 2pcs crow and samir would still be better.
@@MousuTV thnx for testing, so many weapons to use and limited matrices are expensive, it's a hassle changing them everytime you switch to different load out. I hope they add matrices preset same in weapons and gears, that would save so much time.
@@heymiki9105 No prob, thanks too. Yeah I think they should add the matrix preset. We've been requesting that for a long time already. It is pretty hassle now especially when playing sequential lol
Hmmm. Sorry, I don't really know much about Fenrir yet but I heard she works well with Saki too. Though it might be better to focus only on one element if resources are limited. Only thing I can say for sure now is that replacing Frigg with Alyss A1 is very fun to play especially if you like a fast-paced rotation and lots of action.
So I got A0 frigg, A1 meryl, A1 lin And A6 tsubasa. If I pull for her I'd get to A0 If I get lucky( sad f2p noises). should I go for her? If yes what would be the optimal team comp?.
@@nicoleoliquino1465 oh yeah i know. i got a6 lin and a6 annabella in under 300 pulls. but just think about what happens to ppl that get cucked. between dec22 to jan30 there's 150 pulls worth of resources if you were dried already.
I haven't done much repeated cactus parse yet vs other team comps, only quick parse so might not be very super accurate in terms of perfect rotation. It seems very close but overtake by a lot, probably not. Could still change in future patches though like when Dice relic comes to play. In terms of actual gameplay in bygone mobs floor I still find it much easier to use Volt, probably because of the Chain Lightning or maybe I just perform better with it since it is my main.
@@MousuTV It's just that if with the release of Alyss, the frost comp will be weak anyway relative to Volt and Phys comp, then why should people spin Alyss?
@@Lvlzeromob For the volt, I think it's acceptable that Tian Lang is stronger than counterparts because that's the tradeoff from the berserker/fatality mechanics, which is the unique ability of the element. Also, in essence, Volt has always been about damage. However, him being DPS now is just temporary. When Fenrir comes out, only the passives and shatter ability would be of value. And I have a feeling they will rebalance Fenrir heavily too. For the Physical, the reason why it’s so strong now in terms of single DPS on cactus is because of the Grievous debuff. When you put it in a co-op scenario, the teammates will also be able to take advantage of that debuff, therefore, will be able to overtake it in damage output most likely. Frost, however, has a different uniqueness to it. Consistent damage output, lots of crowd control, lots of guaranteed DPS window (Saki A5), iFrames and survivability. In a cactus test or cactus-like contents, these abilities are mostly “ignored”, however in actual combat these are insanely valuable. It's the reason why I don't really focus on damage parse on cactus in my contents because everything is different when the team comps are already in actual combat. And another thing that I’m still waiting on is how the damage output will be affected when relics are already added to the mix, for example, the Dice relic on a skill spammer Frost comp. Overall, if we only close in on the damage output, I think some elements are having advantage. However, when we consider other factors into play - most specifically what are the things that are unique in each team comps and their value in various game contents, I think the balancing is still justified - I would even go as far as saying the devs did a great job on it.
as an f2p im in a dillema whether i should pull for a1 saki to complete my frost team or a1 fenrir to build rainbow team . which one will be better in terms future viability ?
Haha. It's okay. Well I think Alyss A1 is gonna be good as well. Her ability is also very unique and synergize well with what you already have (Saki A1). As f2p or low spender I highly recommend focusing on one element for now, the one that you love playing. When Icarus comes to Global, there will be even better synergies. Btw, what are you planning to use for your 3rd weapon slot?
I honestly find Alyss' trait better in most cases as it is more consistent and not relying on factors that are difficult to control like always being able to dodge enemy attacks.
Works pretty decently too, rotation is surprisingly fast and smooth. But Lin is still killing it especially at A6 it is insane, and Claudia too because of the grievous, other buffs and relatively lower on field time because no need to do some dodge/charge attack to get the buff.
Good Video Bro. I've got Saki A1, Frugg A3, and Tsubasa A6. Who would you recommend I replace for Alyss? I thought of benching my A6 Tsubasa but you recommended Tsubasa to be kept instead of Frigg in your video. Is that correct?
Yes. What advancement do you plan to get for Alyss? I believe you can play both depending on the situation and needs. The major difference here is the gameplay. Saki, Alyss and Frigg no doubt will be good since Frigg can also play the off-field damage and buff role. Upon testing the A3 effect, it didn't work on the clone of Alyss, not sure if that is supposed to be that way or will be changed in the official release. In this case, rotation will be centered mostly on Saki and Alyss. Also, Frigg's skill cd is a bit longer but the AOE, dodge attacks during down time, etc. are also positive points. In the case of Alyss, Saki and Tsubasa, the gameplay will be about taking advantage of the auto discharge and skill, in which I recommend at least A3 for Alyss. It's gonna be a non-stop rotation on all 3 of them. How each of them will perform will also depend on how the matrices are setup. It's quite complicated and varies with each individual setup but ultimately, they are both viable.
@Mousu awesome.... I'm F2P and managed to save 200 red Nuclei for her... hoping to reach A3. I think from your video A3 is worth it if I have the pulls. I just pray 200 pulls is enough.... 🙏. Oh? According to the description, Alyss' clone's discharge is supposed to proc all passives that activate on discharges so I'm sure it should activate on Frigg's discharge. Maybe it was bugged in test server? Either way I'll try both and see, I just hope I make it to A3 with my saved up pulls xD
@@sefaq574 Good luck to your pulls! Regarding the passive, I am honestly not sure how the devs designed it. Some passives work like for example Lin's A6 discharge counter but some doesn't like Nemesis' electrode summon. Claudia's A1 buff also isn't working to add another stack. Hopefully it's just a bug, if so, then it will be even better for Frigg.
Just following up on this regarding A3 Frigg effect. Can confirm that it works. Sorry, I might have missed the damage numbers appearing due to the zoom and small font I'm using when I was testing it.
I think it's gonna be okay overall in terms of damage since you're going to be able to use Attack Resonance and will already have a DPS with charge. Kinda depends on what kind of gameplay you prefer to play.
Unfortunately the "Chlling Field" skill of Alyss is NOT good visual wise if you use it in the Innis underwater map!! You will be blinded by dark visuals and you cannot see any enemies around you! Thats the bummer take note of that (that is in CN) TOF needs to adjust the visual effects before it release on global
@@runningwild9386 Ohhh. Is there? Will check it when I login! Hopefully there is, the dark environment really bothers me as it looks more like a super typhoon rather than snowy chilling feels..
Is alyss a must in the frost team? Like how much better is it actually to have alyss than having the standard lin-saki-frigg team? Kinda torn on pulling for alyss or fenrir cuz im feeling pretty confident in my frost team right now, and I'm not sure if having a rainbow team with Fenrir is better than adding Alyss to my team. (Can only pull for one sadly)
DPS characters can usually be skipped. if you think that your frost team is good enough then i would pass on alyss if you want fenrir. alyss will enable more dmg and cc. thats about it. then icarus just makes saki, alyss even more broken when he comes out.
Alyss and Saki is core for frost team. And later Icarus is complete frost team with all 3 characters perfectly synergize with each other. And Fenrir by itself doesnt unlock raindow team comp. It comes later with titan gear. So for f2p/low spender its usual trade - 1 strong team or 2 mediocre teams. But you also should include fun aspect and deside for yourself.
You can skip for 5 months if you want, what you lose? Only pulls, ranking, for exact why? You can just save all for another team and dont Waste more pulls in a weak team.
sad to see such a huge "nerf" to her matrices but i understand how broken they are since you dont lose stacks unlike samir if you take dmg. also what were your stats in test server just for comparison sakes. i think that would be one thing this video is missing. overall she is looking super solid and im going all in for her. hopefully a6 in less than 400. currently have 300 but will spend since we get top up reset and good packs {edit} was comparing alyss matrices to samir trait for some reason lol. 5am brain not working correctly. its definitely better to run alyss trait over samir
Matrix and others could still change that in the official release. As far as I remember, Lin matrix was changed/buffed a bit last minute too. For the stats, thanks for the feedback. I will add it on the next video with more controlled stats in different team comps. Good luck to your pulls. :)
@@Roshambo3494 lol just my 5am brain not working correctly. somehow ended up comparing her matrices to samir trait. im definitely rocking alyss trait just cause im a noob who always takes dmg
@@iPeanutJelly Her matrices work in the background, so it's not quite comparable to Samir anyway. Numbers are also roughly similar to the other limited sets as well, slightly higher even, while also boosting more than just frost dmg. For mono frost comps, it doesn't matter, but for comps with Lin, it's pretty huge. Saki matrices don't help Lin's damage at all, for example.
but as for me, it’s not just killed, 501% ults, from 125% passive damage cut to 52% cringe, and there’s something else 122%, it will be worse than electro and worse than physical, not even on a par with electro or not better than physical , electro and physic do not have 3 more characters and they are better than cryo with 3 characters saki frig and alice, it’s better to remember the assembly than with such an alice, which they simply didn’t make there by 5-10% a little stronger than electro or physic, but they just took it and trampled it into the dirt....
We'll have to wait and see first when it gets released. There could still be changes on the values. Also, Relics like Dice (assuming it doesn't get reworked) might be able to strengthen it further. :) Maybe damage-wise physical and volt are leading but frost has its own strengths too that are not just damage related.
@@MousuTV I think the damage is important in the game, so I think if Alice comes out the same as in the video, then c1 she was normal, but since she was trampled into the mud it’s easier to go into the physical, unscrew the mind, and the lyre and not know problems, and they just frost Alice was turned into garbage, my personal opinion.
@@MousuTV who needs a weak frost, if it’s easier to unscrew c1 c3 mind, take wide, and lin c6, and frost is even lower than volts per CBT, so I don’t know what advantages she has, but the fact that she is lying in the mud in terms of damage is a fact.
@@Awakeneed Yup, I understand where you are coming from. But for now, it would be best to wait and see first how it will go on the live server as things really could still change. I believe balancing is not done individually too, there might be a specific setup that would make it able to be on par with its counterparts. And uniqueness that work differently in every game content, and that would include how they would perform if things such as relics are already put in play.
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Hi guys, just in case you missed the disclaimer at 00:30, this is Global Test Server and some things could still change in the official release, just like always. :)
Edit: I misread the skill description of Chilling Field in game. It should be 25s cooldown and 30s duration. Thanks to @Scrivania for letting us know!
Sorry, i read online that the cold field lasts for 30 seconds and the ability has 25 seconds cooldown, but u said that the cold field lasts for 25 seconds, Who is right? You or tof website?
Oh sorry, I misread that. Yes it is 30s duration and 25s cooldown, will put a note there, thanks for letting us knoe!
@@MousuTV np sir, my friend told me infact that with alyss you always have to be in the cold field, so that is why i asked you if they were right or not. Because you have to refresh the cold field during the last 5 seconds
man, this is a super good video compared to any other
Pls say me how much difrence has between a0 and a1 allys i need to pull 35 more for pity and its %50 im dont sure should i do
What lineup are you currently using with her?
love your content as always
Thanks!!
with a1 saki, a3 lin, and a1 alyss, who should i use as a dps and who is the most priority discharged ?
Funfact, the true mvp is alyss clone
alyss with usually be priority with discharge. saki second if you happen to have it up. lin's discharge takes too long and doesnt deal burst dmg making it not the best when alyss hits global
For DPS, it tends to go to Alyss in this setup but it will still depend on the situation. Also might be different in Bygone since Saki I believe has a damage bonus in Bygone for being a tank weapon.
For Discharge, if you want to group up enemies, Lin will help in that Regard. For fast shatter, discharge + skill of Saki will be good. Paying attention to the timing of rotation for Surge may also be a factor. As for Alyss, I'm worried about the low multiplier if it remains unchanged on official release. But if it's A3, for sure it will be nice.
Hi, I'm just starting the game and got Alyss and Saki Fuwa. Could I add Tsubasa to the team?
How does she work wirh annabella and ruby's skills since they don't really do damage on cast
For Annabella, as soon as you choose the bullet, it will copy it (visually) and do auto discharge. There will be no damage from the skill itself. For Ruby, there will be 2 cubes.
Boss mousu pringles here. Ask ko lang linaw dun sa A3 na hoarfrost dmg increase kung ano yun?
Dun sa passive boss nakikita siya sa description ng skill. Kapag everytime nagdidischarge using frost weapon, may additional damage lang, then papalakasin lang yung additional damage.
Currently running A4 saki, A1 Frigg, and A6 Tsubasa. Planning to pull for Alyss, who should i replace? 🤔
Tsubasa I think. Then at least A1 Alyss.
my frost team rn a3 lin, a6 tsubasa and a6 meryl, who should i replace if i have a1 alyss?
Meryl probably
You don’t even need alyss tbh 😂
@@Jacobb.. so a1 alyss not even an upgrade in my current frost team? well actually idc that much if the dmg will be lower, cause i just want to play alyss. just want to ask who do you think have less synergy with a1 alyss between those three?
Remove tsubasa
@@__Newones ok I see yea go for her it’s just you know you”d be benching a high advancement character for a A1 that’s all I was putting out there
Alyss cold field and Frigg's Ice domain works together?
Yup!
Is running a1 alyss and a1 saki better with a0 lin or a0 frigg?
Should I pull for her if i haven't any Frost SSR wep? (Except Meryl a2). I have a0 lin.
Hmm. I honestly wouldn't recommend it but if you want to play her, she will do okay with that lineup but you would need to improve meryl more. Or if you are planning to play frost in the future and pull for the new weapons that would be okay too.
If I cast Weapon Skill quickly, Alyss's Discharge be skipped?
Example > Lynn A6 cast twice
The auto-discharge and auto-skill only works on Flame, Volt and Physical (Altered isn't included) but it doesn't get skipped. Sometimes even 2 clones of Alyss appears.
since im still stuck at bygone 360 with Lin A2/Tsubasa A6, Frigg A1 and Saki A1, with no limited matrices, just Samir, Crow and Shiro, will try to have her at A1, and i know that in global as i heard or someone said to me, it might be better to A3 them sadly but i can't....
I think you would enjoy it more even at A1! :)
@@MousuTV true.... as long i can get it, though i have to "umph" my way through is a bit hard now since im a liitle underpowered or so.... even normal SSR matrices cant eveb budge it :'D..... and since global is different than CN, i really need to face reality that A1 might be useless if i wont get a limited matrices i think...... maybe in CN i might be powerful for A1 already than wasting on other advancement :'D
do you think i need to do Lin A3? cause i have Lin A2 but if i pull Alyss i can't make A3 Lin
or stick with Tsubasa A6 then pull Alyss at least A1
Will you be using Saki as the other weapon?
@@MousuTV yeah i forgot i have Saki A3 invest as f2p..i want to know if i continue pull for Lin to make A3 or Alyss i have now 110 red nuc..
Hmm. I think no need to go for Lin A3.
You can go Alyss A1 Saki A3 and (Lin A2) or Tsubasa 6. Then you can already start preparing for Icarus
So, i have an a1 lin, a6 tsubasa and a0 saki, is aluss worth the pull for me? (F2p)
how much differences is samir crow vs alyss 4p? like 10%?or even lower
Not sure how to compare these since it would vary in different situation and team comps used. Alyss' damage increase work offhand whereas samir and crow are usually used for a more focused DPSing. And in a full stacked Saki Alyss Lin lineup, there isn't really someone who can be considered as "Main" dps at it always rotates to abuse the skill resets and alyss' clone.
For sure Maygi will come up with numbers to explain which one is better at which scenario.
I heard claudia matrice doesnt work on alyss discharge clone in test server..is that true?
At first yes, it was already patched to work but we still have to wait for the official release to see which one will be the final one.
@@MousuTV i see..one more thing i heard, at first they make alyss on par with physical or slightly better but then they change it again and now she become weaker than physical and volt..is that true?
@@amirulkadir2486 Hmm. I'm not sure because I usually don't play the early versions in the test server. When I played it, the damage is already balanced. I haven't done controlled cactus parsing yet to compare vs other elements on max level and mostly played Bygone and I can feel there isn't much power creep. They might adjust it a bit more upon release though.
Hi just wanna ask I have a2 Lin as of the moment and luckily I have a1 after my second 10 pull then a4 meryl, is this comp pretty decent? since for me it I have my own style of gameplay of this comp which I don't have any problems at all looks ok to me
alys saki frig? did you try it?
Yes, it will be featured in detail in the next video. :)
What is the best shatter for now ? Specialy on shield breaker ?
Do you mean for frost team?
I have a1 saki a0 Lin and a4 Tsubasa, planning to pull for Alyss, should I pull for a3 or get Frigg at least a0?
My advice would be to forget about Frigg and focus more on Alyss. A1 would already be enough. Frigg A0 would only give atk buff like Lin and shatter buff which I believe isn't necessary anymore with Saki and Alyss in play.
Hi, I'm currently running A1 saki, A3 Lin, and A6 tsubasa. If I replace A6 tsubasa with A1 alyss, could it impact my overall damage? Or should I try to pull for A3 Alyss? Thanks!
In general, damage-wise on cactus, probably won't change that much. However, what I can surely tell in actual combat, A1 Alyss will surely give you much better performance.
Claudia C1,Lin c0 or tsubasa c6?
Haven't compared these in actual with controlled stats though I have a feeling (just a feeling), in general it would be Tsubasa C6 or Claudia C1... but even then that would still depend on the other 2 weapons and the matrices they use.
For example, if Alyss is C3, the autocast of the discharge will be higher but Lin can't take advantage of that since it doesn't proc with the field. Or if there are Lin matrices used, etc etc.
When does she come out
February 2.
Does her A1 proc saki A1 and lin A6 discharge count ?
For A1 Saki. Unfortunately, no. For Lin A6, yes it does.
It seems that each ability/advancements are treated differently. For example, when she auto casts Nemesis' skill, it doesn't summon another one tower. It doesn't give another stack of Buff with Claudia's A1 too. I think that is the limitation but I'm not sure if these will be changed upon release.
Also please keep in mind that Lin A6 triggers Saki A1 faster too. So all 3 should really work well together
@@FelixFU_v2 Agree! So many blooms. Skill rotation is insane and there really isn't much opening anymore to do some normal attacks.
No way u didn't try the triple frost comp(Alyss, Saki, Frigg). Am kind of disappointed 😞. Is it a good comp?
Don't worry, it will be featured in detail in the next video. And yes, so far it's good, but the performance also varies with different setups and advancements.
My current comp is a1 saki a6 tsub and a6 king and i currently only have exactly 120 red nucleus so i cant decide who to get wether alyss or frigg (sadly i can only get thier a0) i need help in choosing who to get xd and btw im using a male character so im kinda worried what would alyss’ weapon would look on him it might not be appropriate lmao
I heavily do not recommend A0 Alyss.... you may risk it to A1 though, who knows u might get a copy at 80/80 hahaha! Frigg is fine but then it's an older banner so I think it might be better to focus on newer ones.
So is frigg a better choice then even if just for a0? Plus im also currently using a male char so im worried what would alyss weapon look on him xd (thank you for the previous reply!)
@@lukasbalukas7971 Hahahaha! That's the biggest problem there, using a male char and figure skating shoes lol.
Yup I believe it's gonna give more value at A0 than A0 Alyss.
huh? not even a mention of Alyss, Saki, Frigg comp? I don't own Lin but i have a3 frigg and Saki and plan to A6 Alyss
Sorry, will be featuring it in detail in the next video. It's good!
@@MousuTV ohhh okay gotcha
Hi, how's Zero matrices for Alyss on discharge it gives 28% dmg boosts for 4pc, 3*, and it lasts for 6 seconds but is spammable with a6 lin, saki and alyss. Is it usable or just stick to standard 2 pcs crow/samir?
I tested it just now, unfortunately, the matrices do not work on the auto-discharge so it will be just as usual wherein the Zero matrix user won't always be the one to cast the discharge. In terms of rotation, maybe for group play it would contribute more total damage output for the entire team but for single play I think 2pcs crow and samir would still be better.
@@MousuTV thnx for testing, so many weapons to use and limited matrices are expensive, it's a hassle changing them everytime you switch to different load out.
I hope they add matrices preset same in weapons and gears, that would save so much time.
@@heymiki9105 No prob, thanks too. Yeah I think they should add the matrix preset. We've been requesting that for a long time already. It is pretty hassle now especially when playing sequential lol
I have A1 Frigg,A3 saki, A3 tsubasa. Should I get Alyss or Fenrir?! Only have 135 red pulls with 36/80 pity.
Also have tian and nemesis A0.
Hmmm. Sorry, I don't really know much about Fenrir yet but I heard she works well with Saki too. Though it might be better to focus only on one element if resources are limited. Only thing I can say for sure now is that replacing Frigg with Alyss A1 is very fun to play especially if you like a fast-paced rotation and lots of action.
So I got A0 frigg, A1 meryl, A1 lin And A6 tsubasa. If I pull for her I'd get to A0 If I get lucky( sad f2p noises). should I go for her? If yes what would be the optimal team comp?.
A0 Alyss is pure copium just like A0 Saki, the only decent/good enought A0 char. are Frigg, Ruby, Lin, Lyra and Annabella.
@@viermixskraiztex2266 Yes this one I agree. Should be at least A1 for Alyss.
@@viermixskraiztex2266 Tian Lang too is great at A0
"fortunately that game changing ability can already be unlocked at a1" - when you have to invest at most 220 pulls to get it.
Haha. Yeah. Kinda depends on luck too but definitely a lot better than the likes of earlier banners like Cobalt, Nemesis, etc.
to be fair, i got saki a3 with 180 pulls
@@nicoleoliquino1465 oh yeah i know. i got a6 lin and a6 annabella in under 300 pulls. but just think about what happens to ppl that get cucked. between dec22 to jan30 there's 150 pulls worth of resources if you were dried already.
@@Kaileris i spent 180 to get A1 Anna(started from 50/80)
Yo! I have a question, Alyss/Lin/Saki A6 with A3 matrices native, overtakes the current Volt and Phys Build in damage ? also A6, A3
I haven't done much repeated cactus parse yet vs other team comps, only quick parse so might not be very super accurate in terms of perfect rotation. It seems very close but overtake by a lot, probably not. Could still change in future patches though like when Dice relic comes to play.
In terms of actual gameplay in bygone mobs floor I still find it much easier to use Volt, probably because of the Chain Lightning or maybe I just perform better with it since it is my main.
@@MousuTV It's just that if with the release of Alyss, the frost comp will be weak anyway relative to Volt and Phys comp, then why should people spin Alyss?
@@MousuTV And Volt and Phys have not yet released Umi and Fenrir, it turns out the frost comp will be weaker 100% xdd
@@Lvlzeromob
For the volt, I think it's acceptable that Tian Lang is stronger than counterparts because that's the tradeoff from the berserker/fatality mechanics, which is the unique ability of the element. Also, in essence, Volt has always been about damage. However, him being DPS now is just temporary. When Fenrir comes out, only the passives and shatter ability would be of value. And I have a feeling they will rebalance Fenrir heavily too.
For the Physical, the reason why it’s so strong now in terms of single DPS on cactus is because of the Grievous debuff. When you put it in a co-op scenario, the teammates will also be able to take advantage of that debuff, therefore, will be able to overtake it in damage output most likely.
Frost, however, has a different uniqueness to it. Consistent damage output, lots of crowd control, lots of guaranteed DPS window (Saki A5), iFrames and survivability. In a cactus test or cactus-like
contents, these abilities are mostly “ignored”, however in actual combat these are insanely valuable. It's the reason why I don't really focus on damage parse on cactus in my contents because everything is different when the team comps are already in actual combat.
And another thing that I’m still waiting on is how the damage output will be affected when relics are already added to the mix, for example, the Dice relic on a skill spammer Frost comp.
Overall, if we only close in on the damage output, I think some elements are having advantage. However, when we consider other factors into play - most specifically what are the things that are unique in each team comps and their value in various game contents, I think the balancing is still justified - I would even go as far as saying the devs did a great job on it.
@@MousuTV I heard there A1 Alyss still more nerfed, can you say any details about this?
Nice guide
as an f2p im in a dillema whether i should pull for a1 saki to complete my frost team or a1 fenrir to build rainbow team . which one will be better in terms future viability ?
I think saki will deliver more value for frost teams and onwards because of the skill reset. It's a very unique ability.
@@MousuTV my bad 😅 I wanted to say a1 alyss but wrote wrong , I already have a1 saki
Haha. It's okay. Well I think Alyss A1 is gonna be good as well. Her ability is also very unique and synergize well with what you already have (Saki A1). As f2p or low spender I highly recommend focusing on one element for now, the one that you love playing. When Icarus comes to Global, there will be even better synergies.
Btw, what are you planning to use for your 3rd weapon slot?
well I have tsubasa a4 , frigg a0 , meril a3 and Lin a0 , so what do you think will be better ? I use Lin currently with saki and frigg
@@rizvirahat3930 You can try:
Alyss Saki Lin
Alyss Saki Frigg
Thank you, very helpful video. One question tho. Should i stick with samir's trait or alyss's better?
I honestly find Alyss' trait better in most cases as it is more consistent and not relying on factors that are difficult to control like always being able to dodge enemy attacks.
@@MousuTV that's good to know. Thank you~
So based on the tested team comps, how about saki/tsubasa/alyss?
Works pretty decently too, rotation is surprisingly fast and smooth. But Lin is still killing it especially at A6 it is insane, and Claudia too because of the grievous, other buffs and relatively lower on field time because no need to do some dodge/charge attack to get the buff.
@@MousuTV alright thanks!
here i am praying for my claudia matrices to be useful for alyss
Guess we'll have to wait and see in the official release. :) Just a few more days left.
@@MousuTV soon!
Need to know to plan for matrice pulls 🫣
Wait I thought she can copy only frost skills at A1?
She can also copy other elements except altered if using the trait. Super cool, right???
@@MousuTV waw so she's a must have
Thanks for this vid. Also looking forward to the Tagalog version for entertainment purposes lol 🥰
Is Alyss 0* worth it?
In my opinion, not so much. I highly recommend atleast A1.
Great video!
I'm currently running A6 Tsubasa, A3 Frigg and A3 Saki. Who would you replace from that comp with A1 Alyss?
Tsubasa
Try to make saki , Alyssa and lin in same team
Thanks! I think you can replace Tsubasa but replacing Frigg would work too depending on the circumstance and individual setup.
@@محسنالحامد-ز1ص I sadly didn't get Lin because I used most of my resources for that Saki
@@jecux_ you can use Tsubasa if you don't have lin,, the good think in Tsubasa the crit
Good Video Bro. I've got Saki A1, Frugg A3, and Tsubasa A6. Who would you recommend I replace for Alyss? I thought of benching my A6 Tsubasa but you recommended Tsubasa to be kept instead of Frigg in your video. Is that correct?
Yes. What advancement do you plan to get for Alyss?
I believe you can play both depending on the situation and needs. The major difference here is the gameplay.
Saki, Alyss and Frigg no doubt will be good since Frigg can also play the off-field damage and buff role. Upon testing the A3 effect, it didn't work on the clone of Alyss, not sure if that is supposed to be that way or will be changed in the official release. In this case, rotation will be centered mostly on Saki and Alyss. Also, Frigg's skill cd is a bit longer but the AOE, dodge attacks during down time, etc. are also positive points.
In the case of Alyss, Saki and Tsubasa, the gameplay will be about taking advantage of the auto discharge and skill, in which I recommend at least A3 for Alyss. It's gonna be a non-stop rotation on all 3 of them.
How each of them will perform will also depend on how the matrices are setup. It's quite complicated and varies with each individual setup but ultimately, they are both viable.
@Mousu awesome.... I'm F2P and managed to save 200 red Nuclei for her... hoping to reach A3. I think from your video A3 is worth it if I have the pulls. I just pray 200 pulls is enough.... 🙏.
Oh? According to the description, Alyss' clone's discharge is supposed to proc all passives that activate on discharges so I'm sure it should activate on Frigg's discharge.
Maybe it was bugged in test server?
Either way I'll try both and see, I just hope I make it to A3 with my saved up pulls xD
@@sefaq574 Good luck to your pulls!
Regarding the passive, I am honestly not sure how the devs designed it. Some passives work like for example Lin's A6 discharge counter but some doesn't like Nemesis' electrode summon. Claudia's A1 buff also isn't working to add another stack. Hopefully it's just a bug, if so, then it will be even better for Frigg.
Just following up on this regarding A3 Frigg effect. Can confirm that it works. Sorry, I might have missed the damage numbers appearing due to the zoom and small font I'm using when I was testing it.
bruh that censor on the thumbnail 🤨
call that balance -> tian 0% nerf in skill/discharge :v fair!?
I m running tsubasa A6 saki A4 n merly A6.. so i have enough to get alyss A1... i m going to replace meryl with alyss.. how is the comp?
I think it's gonna be okay overall in terms of damage since you're going to be able to use Attack Resonance and will already have a DPS with charge. Kinda depends on what kind of gameplay you prefer to play.
Alyss already out?
Yes, since Feb 2
Unfortunately the "Chlling Field" skill of Alyss is NOT good visual wise if you use it in the Innis underwater map!! You will be blinded by dark visuals and you cannot see any enemies around you! Thats the bummer take note of that (that is in CN)
TOF needs to adjust the visual effects before it release on global
IKR, actually even if not in the underwater map, I don't like it because I find it too dark. Would prefer to see something lighter.
@@MousuTV Might have remembered it wrong. But i think i heard gateoo mentioned in a video, that in CN. They added a button to turn that visual off?
@@runningwild9386 Ohhh. Is there? Will check it when I login! Hopefully there is, the dark environment really bothers me as it looks more like a super typhoon rather than snowy chilling feels..
Is alyss a must in the frost team? Like how much better is it actually to have alyss than having the standard lin-saki-frigg team? Kinda torn on pulling for alyss or fenrir cuz im feeling pretty confident in my frost team right now, and I'm not sure if having a rainbow team with Fenrir is better than adding Alyss to my team. (Can only pull for one sadly)
DPS characters can usually be skipped. if you think that your frost team is good enough then i would pass on alyss if you want fenrir. alyss will enable more dmg and cc. thats about it. then icarus just makes saki, alyss even more broken when he comes out.
Alyss and Saki is core for frost team. And later Icarus is complete frost team with all 3 characters perfectly synergize with each other.
And Fenrir by itself doesnt unlock raindow team comp. It comes later with titan gear. So for f2p/low spender its usual trade - 1 strong team or 2 mediocre teams. But you also should include fun aspect and deside for yourself.
@@iPeanutJelly Since when can dps characters be skipped? Huh? Are we playing the same game? That's like 90% of all limited characters.
You can skip for 5 months if you want, what you lose? Only pulls, ranking, for exact why? You can just save all for another team and dont Waste more pulls in a weak team.
sad to see such a huge "nerf" to her matrices but i understand how broken they are since you dont lose stacks unlike samir if you take dmg. also what were your stats in test server just for comparison sakes. i think that would be one thing this video is missing. overall she is looking super solid and im going all in for her. hopefully a6 in less than 400. currently have 300 but will spend since we get top up reset and good packs
{edit} was comparing alyss matrices to samir trait for some reason lol. 5am brain not working correctly. its definitely better to run alyss trait over samir
You don't lose stacks with samir matrices when you take damage.. you lose stacks when you take damage with her trait.
Matrix and others could still change that in the official release. As far as I remember, Lin matrix was changed/buffed a bit last minute too.
For the stats, thanks for the feedback. I will add it on the next video with more controlled stats in different team comps.
Good luck to your pulls. :)
@@Roshambo3494 lol just my 5am brain not working correctly. somehow ended up comparing her matrices to samir trait. im definitely rocking alyss trait just cause im a noob who always takes dmg
@@iPeanutJelly Her matrices work in the background, so it's not quite comparable to Samir anyway. Numbers are also roughly similar to the other limited sets as well, slightly higher even, while also boosting more than just frost dmg. For mono frost comps, it doesn't matter, but for comps with Lin, it's pretty huge. Saki matrices don't help Lin's damage at all, for example.
why am i watching this, im a flame main
Alyss before: one shot - one kill.
Alyss now: 100 shots - 1 damage.
Real trash now
Let's wait for the official release, there may still be some adjustments for it. :)
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but as for me, it’s not just killed, 501% ults, from 125% passive damage cut to 52% cringe, and there’s something else 122%, it will be worse than electro and worse than physical, not even on a par with electro or not better than physical , electro and physic do not have 3 more characters and they are better than cryo with 3 characters saki frig and alice, it’s better to remember the assembly than with such an alice, which they simply didn’t make there by 5-10% a little stronger than electro or physic, but they just took it and trampled it into the dirt....
We'll have to wait and see first when it gets released. There could still be changes on the values.
Also, Relics like Dice (assuming it doesn't get reworked) might be able to strengthen it further. :) Maybe damage-wise physical and volt are leading but frost has its own strengths too that are not just damage related.
@@MousuTV I think the damage is important in the game, so I think if Alice comes out the same as in the video, then c1 she was normal, but since she was trampled into the mud it’s easier to go into the physical, unscrew the mind, and the lyre and not know problems, and they just frost Alice was turned into garbage, my personal opinion.
@@MousuTV who needs a weak frost, if it’s easier to unscrew c1 c3 mind, take wide, and lin c6, and frost is even lower than volts per CBT, so I don’t know what advantages she has, but the fact that she is lying in the mud in terms of damage is a fact.
@@Awakeneed Yup, I understand where you are coming from. But for now, it would be best to wait and see first how it will go on the live server as things really could still change.
I believe balancing is not done individually too, there might be a specific setup that would make it able to be on par with its counterparts. And uniqueness that work differently in every game content, and that would include how they would perform if things such as relics are already put in play.
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