Interesting stuff... but its equally important to consider how the scythians were described by the Greeks and Persians and the Chinese... they are European looking with Red and Blonde hair and blue eyes in the sources... perhaps the east Asian element is from some intermarriage form western scythians with Turkic peoples in the east (certainly some Mongolians have blonde hair - although that may have arisen separately...)
I had a thought but was deleted by YT censorship. It was about how the genetic flow between East and Central steppe was strictly female-mediated before the Turkic/Hunnic expansion. It came with an academic reference that I don't dare to repost here for fear of being censored again.
I’d recommend watching Asha Logos channel on this topic. The original Scythians did move west into Europe, they were white. Some that stayed East did eventually get race mixed.
They were not white. They had east asian/central asian mixture and were Iranic, none of whom were seen as white in any point of history. The ones who described them with light hair never interacted with the eastern scythians, only the ones in Europe who were already mixed with Germanic people/early slavs. Also east asians can have light hair/light eyes as well.
genetic studies are always of much interest to me, the Scythians as well as the Cimmerian peoples migration are also interesting, the earlier migration of the Cimmerians seems to have some of them going into the area of the Hungarian plains and possibly coming into contact with the Hallstatt/proto-Celt cultures, others of them migrating into Anatolia and the southern parts of the Black Sea area.
Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from. As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period. www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
The Scythians are a South Ural civilization. There are many rivers there and gold was mined in the rivers. Near the forest-steppe and steppe. Their largest direct descendants now are peoples with a Ugric component. This is most of the Russians (Slavicized Finno-Ugric ethnic groups), Ukrainians (the entire Dnieper was inhabited by Ugrians, and Kyiv was a trading post until the Khazar traders seized power there), all Cossacks, Uighurs of China, Nogais, some clans of Kazakhs, some peoples of the Caucasus like Kumyks, Kabardians, Adygs (Circassians), Abkhazians, also Hungarians, part of the Crimean Tatars, Gagauz in Moldova, part of the Moldovans, part of the Danube population and a small part of modern Turks in northwestern Turkey, also Hungarians, Mansi, almost all Finno-Ugric the peoples of Russia, including the Russians themselves, the Chuvash, part of the Volga Tatars and part of the Bashkirs. But the descendants of the Scythians of Herodotus are most numerous in central Ukraine. From the upper Dnieper to the Southern Bug River. They still live there, but they are Slavicized. The closest languages of Herodotus' Scythians are the modern Hungarian language and the language of the Mansi and Komi people in Russia.
@@expertpovsemvoprosam1667 Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric people meaning Finnish-Hungarian while Eastern where more Turkic people. The Scythians is another word for Hun-Han and Slav-Slöwen speakers in many cases are Slav-Slöwenised Finno-Ugric people whose linguistic conversion came via religious conversion.
History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names. In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads, The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
Those Tarim basin mummies have no relation with Tocharians. Latest DNA sequencing researches done by Chinese scientists clearly proved this. Tocharians had no relation with Yuezhi within the vicinity either. Tocharians aren't such an old ethnic group. They most probably some of the Iranic who settled in the Tarim basin by escaping from the wars around in 200-400 CE.
Their IE language has been discovered. They were wiped out by the turkish uigurs in 840, some 1200 years ago. "Tocharian" is a confusing word, on purpose used by turks to suggest they came from Bactriana. As their IE language (of the centum group) was NOT of the indo-iranian group, they were NOT scythian, or "iranic". They were descendents of the Afanassievo culture, or another mysterious euro-siberian group which suggests that Yamna culture (100% identical, acc to paleogenetical studies, to Afanassievo culture) may have come from Siberia where other similar groups, like Afanassievo culture, remained ... before being mixed with asian looking people and becoming proto-turkic or proto-hunnic people like the xiongnus, famous enemies of China (great wall was built against them).
In previous message I was refering to the roman-named Serica and to the agnean and kuchean languages, in Tarim bassin, south of "Sinkiang". That's where the famous white-looking mummies were found, close to a dried lake, at the eastern side of the tarim bassin.
Yes brother, this proves eurasiatic languages. 👍 But, I think original region is not pontic steppe, I think they are originated from siberia and have traveled through whole euroasia in history. There were older cultures which were not indoeuropean in the beginning. Indoeuropean languages mutated from uralic languages as also classified in eurasiatic languages.
@@serkankinden5150 Indo-Jewropean languages could mutated from A Sian meaning The Scythian languages since like Finnish,Hungarian...Turkic languages we talk about languages that are native in the steppe since they genetics is native and they language grammar is fundamentally different from Indo-Jewropean languages. The grammar in a language is like a finger print for vocabulary can change but the way people talk and constructs words can't since it's not a matter literacy. As for the Western Scythians being a Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian alliance while Eastern Scythians being a more Turkic the genetic differences just a linguistic and cultural similarities are self understanding and that's clear from a Hungarian-Macar-Scythian perspective and the evidence of cultural,genetic,linguistic...continuity that I have shared in the answer below. www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
It's so interesting who we think people are based on place names, I think it's very interesting to try to rediscover what history was using more than place names
Scythians appear in the 8th century BC out of seemingly nowhere, with the Greek and Assyrian writers saying that they first appeared in the Cities of the Medes. This is western Iran. Yamnaya and Scythian are in the same place, but are not the same people. Yamnaya left their homeland to invade both Europe and India around 1600BC, 800 years before the Scythians appear in Media/Persia. What people arrived in Media in the 8th Century BC? Gee I dunno. Let’s ask the Assyrians. Assyrians: “That’s where we put the Israelites.”
No, the Scythians appeared in Central Asia, but they invaded southern Russia, Ukraine, and the Caucasus and destroyed the people there, and a large number of these people fled to the Middle East. 😂😂😂😂
@@عليياسر-ف4ن9ك @serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
@@MAKDavid-1 I agree with every word you say and thank you very much for the completely true historical information you explained in one paragraph. Actually, I want to say that Proto Turkish is a very old language that is related to the Uralic languages.
@@elifozkendir3171 My comments have been blocked,removed...many times and that's not because they are lies but because they are factual based on interpretation of actual evidence rather then manipuling them to suite some political-religious fiction narrative of Indo-Jewropean linguistic theory which seek to insert languages in to the steppe that doesn't originated from such a languages that in many cases spread via forced religious conversion. Turkic,Finnish and Hungarian languages are in a grammatical sense similar but have a different vocabulary since like the archeo-genetics points out where and are different people that lived in touch and relative harmony with another without trying to overwhelm the other group and it's lands compared to Indo-Jewropean and Indo-Iranian languages that are a mix of various languages that spread in many cases via forced religious conversion that included genocides a extermination of the population that resisted such conversion ...which resulted in them not knowing what basic names-identities that they claim as they own mean in the language around which they identity revolves.
Scythians are the Aryan cousins of the Persians. Their petroglyph still can be seen on the Parseh/Perspolis walls in Shiraz in Iran(they used to wear pointy helmets)
@@JangoChained you don't have a life do you kid? You remind me of those who larp as Aryans. You're not us, you'll never be us, all you can do is wishing and larping
Perfect. New advances in DNA research show recently acquired genetic evidence of our history. I also do my own research, homework. Studying linguistics, genetic similarities and cultural similarities, show a strong correlation between Gaelic and Scythian culture, Yamnia culture, beaker bell culture, corded ware culture. Etc. ad nauseous
@serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
The original Scythians and Sarmatians were an Iranian people in origin, Over time the Scythians in the East would have been replaced by East Asians and the Scythians in Central Asia would have become mixed. History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names. In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads. The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
@@VerbalWarrior162 Scythian is another word for Hun and we know that western Scythians where a Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while Eastern Scythians where more Turkic.There was no Indo-Iranian (Slav-Slöwen) Scythians .The word Irian-Arian-Aryan refers to someone whom is a descendant of JAN-YAN-HAN which is a identity and name with its religious significance that was also a title of nobility that Indo-Iranian nor Indo-Jewropean didn't used. As Ladino speaking Jewish-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople called Greek a late immigrants whom have rebranded Hungarian King Béla 3rd as they Jewnanistani King Alexios together with the entire Cuman-Coman Byzantine dynasty and everything Hungarian-Macar-Scythian they followed they Orthodox identity thieving traditions which is how Varangian nobility a Hungarian-Swedish offshoot A Vár Hungarian nobility got rebranded as Kijewish Rus as well .
The last of the stepe Skythians, the Alani, merged with the Moldavians in the 1400s :) so they lasted a lot longer, and the Alani still exist in the Caucasus as the Osetins.
There are two runic lines on a bowl found in Issyk Kurgan in Kazakhstan (The golden man burial, a Saka (Eastern Scythian)) burial. Take a look at them. As far as we know, they have nothing to do with Irish runes but there is visual similarities. Come to Kazakhstan one day! You can see the Golden man and other archeological artefacts in the museums. There are also archeological sites in Russia and Ukraine, and Kyrgyzstan.
Many years of research have long confirmed that the western and eastern Scythians came from different independent sources. The Pontic Scythians were associated with the Srubnaya culture. However, the eastern Scythians are associated with the further development of the art of the Paleolithic of Siberia and Mongolia - Okunevo culture and Deer stones culture, with the participation of Afonasievo and Andronovo cultures. At least the pre-historical Dzungarian pastoralists of the Early Bronze Age had Paleo-Siberian, Ancient Eurasian and Afonasievo ancestry. Proto-Scythian and early Scythian burials are associated specifically with eastern Asia, like early Karsuk culture. Historical Central Asian Saka, except for Paleo-Siberian ancestry, had additionally more eastern Slab Grave-like ancestry and were more similar to their neighbors Xiongnu, at least the Tiele tribes. But this does not exclude the flow of genes between the western eastern Scythians, at least along the female line, even the Pontic Scythians had about 10% East Asian ancestry. Some think that the young Sarmatians were a certain group of Srubniks from the Urals, since the Sarmatians were relatively more homogeneous than the Scythians. But it is more likely that they were a group associated with the oldest Karsuk and Dzungarian pastoralists, most likely Wusun, or Yuezhi from Chinese sources. Since the Sarmatians are not at all similar to the Central Europeans, as Srubnaya does, although they are homogeneous in their own Central Asian cluster. In 2024, there is a preprint from Harvarad on the network, which explains the originated of Turkic languages from the mixing of the two Altai cultures Bulan Koby and Kok Pash, that is, the late Saka and Hunnu. Finaly the Central Asian Saka were most similar to the modern Bashkirs, Siberian Tatars, and parts of the Altai Teleuts.The Karsuk culture and the Cimmerians were most similar to the Volga Tatars, respectively Sarmatians. There are no Pontic Scythians, as they were defeated by the Sarmatians and then absorbed by the Goths. Therefore, today their admixture is found mainly in Western Europe, especially the Germans. Recently there was paper on the Roman frontier. And the barbarian invasions turned out to be essentially Goths with Central Asian nomadic admixture. ua-cam.com/video/A5dlrwLL9tE/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/DSXVaeEAb-s/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/R70a4P4Ni6c/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/YkXSw6FJVHM/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/NR91YaRjNqQ/v-deo.html
I'm a Scot with Scottish, Irish and north western European making up over 96% of my DNA. Looking deeper into the ancient European breakdown shows me 42% for the Eurasian Steppe and Baltic areas, and it's certainly not a recent addition by any means. I'm not a great believer in the ramblings of the Arbroath declaration, I suspect it was largely embellished for reasons best known to the writers, but I can't deny the possibility remains. More research is required.
West Scythians definitely mixed with Balts and Balkan people as they migrated to the region. We know it from DNA evidence from their burrrials. West Scythians were more of West Eurasian (Caucasus region), EHG, and some admixtures of East Eurasian and other tribes.
Not really. The Huns were surely the same as the first Turkics to adventure into the Central and Western steppe (Western Eurasian steppe) and did so c. 90 CE after they were soundly defeated by China. A few centuries later they had recovered and threatened Europe and India, with the last remnants of the Scythians, the Alans, being one of the many populations they pushed against Rome in dread.
Most directly related. The Scythians originated the Xiongnu, but the Xiongnu originated the Huns. Pazyryk culture (Asian Saka Scythians) was transformed into the culture of the Hunnic type Bulan Koba. And also the Huns moving westward met with the Sarmatians. They formed the Hunno-Sarmatian period. And then the modern Volga Tatar people. (Kipchak-speaking former nomads). And the small Altai peoples - Tubalar, Teleut and so on and especially the Siberian Tatars are close to Pazyrykians. The history of nomads is completely not about the Persians and other southern Middle Eastern Iranoid Arabic or Hindus Asians. They just never happened there.
@@mr.purple1779 - Nope. The Scythians are not at the origin of the Xiongnu, unless you mean very tangentially via the spread of horse riding to the East. The Scythians or steppe Iranics were conquered and absorbed by the Xiongnu/Huns/Turkics after these were expelled from the Eastern steppe by China.
@@LuisAldamiz You're wrong. Early western Xiongnu are descended from the same sources as their neighbors, i.e. Paleo-Siberian-Eurasian. Eastern Xiongnu from Slab Grave. But closer to the Avar period, the Slab Grave component began to prevail, which replaced the Siberians. That is why the Pazyryk Scythians were Turkic-speaking.
Another great video on the topic of Yamnaya descendants. Small correction to the map showing modern political boundaries relative to the Yamnaya homeland - Crimea is a part of Ukraine.
@serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
@@Baptized_in_Fire. Russia violently invaded and occupied Crimea which is not recognized by the international community as part of Russia. The invasion was and remains a violation of Article II of the UN Charter. The referendum was held under conditions of military occupation and mass migration, much of it coerced by Russia. Russia recognized the independence and territorial integrity, including boundaries, of Ukraine in 1992. In signing the Budapest Memorandum, Russia committed to not attack Ukraine. But Russia's word cannot be trusted. Why you, or any decent-minded person, would support violent land theft and colonization in this day and age baffles me.
@@MAKDavid-1there is no evidence of their writing or language aside from two runic lines found on a dish/vase in Kazakhstan (Issyk Kurgan, the burial of the Golden Man). Those runic lines actually resemble early runic writing of Turkic tribes which would emerge later in that region.
@@Casualphilosopher-db9gy There is plenty of evidence that supports a Sumerian-Cimmerian-Crimean genetic and cultural continuity. Scythians-Huns can be broken in a 4 fundamental groups from which Hungarian-Macar-Scythian are a Western Scythians that are native in such lands,Eastern Scythians a Turkic speakers with a more central position on the continent,Mongols and Saka in Yakutsk and those of Hindu Kush area which like Ottomans that are connected to modern Iranians.
The original Scythians and Sarmatians were an Iranian people in origin, Over time the Scythians in the East would have been replaced by East Asians and the Scythians in Central Asia would have become mixed. History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names. In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads, The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
Here we go again. Saar we are actually Scythian Iranic people saar. Having literally no DNA relationship to Schytians doesn't matter saar Persians are Aryan
Did you not listen to the research discussed in the video? They sample ALL skeletons since Iron Age, that includes early groups. There is no evidence of them being Iranian aside from some Persian sources referring to SOME Scythian tribes as eastern Iranians. Considering the constant mixing that Scythians underwent, it’s not surprising that some tribes that lived closer to Persia would over time mix a lot with Persians and even adopt their language. We have no evidence of Scythian writing except for runic writing on a graal found in a tomb in Kazakhstan (the Issyk Kurgan). That’s all. No writing evidence, no transcriptions in other languages. Just two lines of runic writing. I was a proponent of Iranian theory, but I looked up the DNA of ancient and modern Iranians, and both don’t match. Proponents of Iranian theory make fun of everyone who disagrees, but why don’t you look at facts.
The original Scythians and Sarmatians were an Iranian people in origin, Over time the Scythians in the East would have been replaced by East Asians and the Scythians in Central Asia would have become mixed. History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names. In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads, The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
Greeks didn’t know everything. There are burials found in Central Asia and Siberia of that time period that resemble that culture materially and genetically. However, this channel explained that Western and Eastern Scythians emerged at the same independently and had slightly different genetic pool. They had common ancestors, but western Scythians were more from West Eurasians, and Eastern Scythians were more of East Eurasian ancestry. Both intermixed with each other, and then west Scythians mixed with Balts and Balkan people as they moved to Europe. So they were a genetically diverse group with similar culture.
You mixed scithians with the massagetae on the map. They were related but different. Scithians are the Yamnaya that got,, civilised,, by the getae which then got further into India and Persia. Make a video about the massagetae.
Please post an explanation of them migrating to Persia in the comment section, so that proponents of the Iranian theory would chill. Massagets were a tribe of Eastern Scythians, called Saka. They had four tribes, if I remember correctly. Yamnaya and Scythians probably originate from ancient Eurasians, as both R1a and R1b haplogroups originate from R haplogroup.
History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names. In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads, The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
@@VerbalWarrior162 Moğollar ile Proto-Türkler arasında soybağı ilişkisi bulunmamaktadır. İki dil arasında da ortak kökenli kelime yok denecek kadar azdır.
@@MagnusVenter369 Your unreal words about the Turks denounce you; the inaccuracy of the historical information you wrote above shows that you do not know the real history...
Maybe because that from where you originate from hence had such ancestry?Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
In Iran We Have Region's Called "Tapurstan" and "Sakastan" Tapur and Saka are the name of Scythian tribes ( "Stan" is Iranic and Indo European word for Land and has nothing to do with islamic turks and arabs)
Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from. As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period. www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
@@parrotwhite7041 Not as much as there is Persian and Arabic in Turkish. Even Turkish words that are used in Persian and Arabic have equivalents and can be easily replaced. But for example, no word for city has been invented in the Turkish language and still foreign words are used !
They were not White Caucasians. It's slavic expansion to the east that spread European genes in that region, before they were east asian/mongoloid mixed with Iranian in appearance. Why do you think when Russia took over all those lands none of the native people look Aryan?
@@mr.purple1779 tell that to all the retarded indo european larpers who think they have ancestors from that region who looked as white as someone from modern day Sweden.
Ne nebyli, Slované jsou v Evropě doma na Balkánu a v Panonii, potom, když překročili Karpaty, tak se mísili se Sarmaty a více se usazovali a zaměřili se na zemědělství, poté vznikali státy na východ od Karpat až po dnešní Rusko, Ukrajinu apod.
@@MagnusVenter369This claim that hordes of Slavs suddenly appeared in 600 AD out of nothing from nowhere to conquer approx 7 million sq miles is ridiculous. The Slavs are the largest ethnolinguistic group in Europe. They control the largest land mass in Eurasia, from the Danube to Siberia. That takes a long time. Consider the similarity in Slavic and Sarmatian dress, horsemanship and weapons. Part of the Balkans borders on the Black Sea. And where were the Scytho-Sarmatians? On the Black Sea. Like the the Sarmatians, the Slavs spread east and west from the Black Sea to control a huge land mass. The Scytho-Sarmatians were the Proto Slavs.
Western Scythians were Slavic,Iranian while Eastern was Turkic and thats why there is relation with three ethnic groups but them Aryan d suckers love making them full Aryans.
Awricht Gadge! Σκυθης = Skuthes pronounced Skuts where the u is like the u in up. Giving rise to the Romans recording Scot and plural Scotti. All suported by myth stories, linguitics, orthography and mostly DNA. Scythian was always pronounced Skutian. Check modern German Skythen or Skythisch. Just saying :)
There is no evidence of their writing and speaking except of two runic lines which have nothing to do with Iranians. Iranian influence on Ossetian and Tajik languages was due to other languages. You guys need help. Many different modern people may have some Scythian ancestry, including you, due to their migrations. Doesn’t mean you can just claim someone else’s culture and heritage. It’s like African Americans calling Cleopatra Greek. Also, we know how Scythians and Saka dressed. It doesn’t look similar to Iranians.
Dude, if you spoke Scythian it would be easier to understand you. Donghu were the Far East, Asians, Dingling the Baykal Proto-Turks. Don't use "kurgan" which is a Turkish word for Pontic Scythians, but "tumuli" which is a Latin word with Proto-Indoeuropean base...Scythian art ended when the Turks usurped the leadership and after Xiongnu it was all gone, Turks did not do art, or very little. Turks you see...
I see you cant withstand to reality. I really appreciated youtuber's effort. Turkic people were also artistic, look at east roman comments on gokturk sculpture abilities. Dont hesitate friend!
Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from. As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period. www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
What are you talking about? Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from. As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period. www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
@@MAKDavid-1 The Scythian people were 63% is R1a from Ashkenaz, 18% is Q from the Medes, about 5% is R1b from Riphath, a good 4% is J2 from Judah, 2% is E from Egyptian, 1.6% is I2 from the Israelite tribe of Asher.
Sumer had an agglutinative language structure as a known language. This language is similar to the Turkic languages and the Uralic languages today. Abraham was probably a Sumerian priest. The DNA may have passed from there. And don't forget the Khazar khanate. The Ashi clan was the founding family of the Khazar Khaganate. And tell about the ancestors of the Huns, the Turks. I'll leave it here for you to think about. As a Turk and a Muslim, I don't like it, but I see this attachment. I think he mixed the Jews with the Semitic people.
@@bir_cumle Yes Abraham was a Sumerian from a Sumerian city called Ur and yes his descendants are not the only Semitic people obviously. There are Lydians, Arameans, Assyrians and Elamites. Languages sometimes give clues but the genetics are absolute. Very often the other Semitic people are just considered to be Arabic. The historical record shows that everyone spread out from Mesopotamia. Ancient history is essential for everyone to know, especially the sixteen original civilizations… from the sixteen grandsons of Noah. It’s necessary to learn ancient history before trying to learn science. 1. The first inhabitants of Italy (K) Tubal 2. Thracians (L) Tiras 3. Siberians (N) Meshek 4. East Asians (O) Magog 5. Medes (PQ) Madai 6.. Western Europeans (R) Gomer 7. Mediterranean Greek sea people (T) Javan 8. Hebrews and Arabic (IJ) Arphaxad 9. Elamites (H) Elam 10. Assyrians (G) Asshur 11. Arameans (F1) Aram 12. Lydians (F2) Lud 13. Cushites (AB, C) Cush 14. Egyptians (E3) Mitzrayim 15. Canaanites (E2, D) Canaan 16. Original North African Phoenicians (E1) Phut The D haplogroup descendants of Canaan migrated east through Tibet all the way to Japan. The C haplogroup descendants of Nimrod migrated to South Asia, the Pacific, Mongolia, Australia and all the way to the Americas along with Q haplogroup descendants of Madai ancestor of the Medes. The A maternal mtDNA haplogroup belonging to the N lineage accompanied the Q paternal haplogroup in the Americas. The C&D maternal haplogroups belong to the M lineage. The B maternal haplogroup seems to have crossed the Pacific Ocean. The Mediterranean paternal R1b and the maternal X2a also found in Galilee represent an Atlantic crossing of the Phoenicians in the days of King Solomon considering also the Mediterranean paternal haplogroups of T, G, I1, I2, J1, J2, E and B in addition to the R1b in Native American Populations. J1 and J2 is Arabs and Jews. (I1 is Dan, I2 is Asher) Of course there is the Cohen modal haplotype of J1 P58 which identifies the IJ lineage of Hebrews and Arabs that are descended from Arphaxad. J2 M172 is the descendants of the House of David and Solomon.
@@bir_cumle The word Ábra,Ábrám ...is a Hungarian-Macar-Scythian word just as ÚR meaning Lord to which we add the genetic,cultural,linguistic continuety of Sumerian-Cimmerian-Crimean we get a understanding that Sumerian-Elomite that got rebranded as Shemitic people a descendant of Shem where a different group of people and not Arabs or Jews-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople. Yes Ural is a Hungarian word as well to which add the Khazar which would have been a Hungarian group mostly it explains whom Ashkenazi a Khazar Jews are . We know that Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric people meaning Finnish-Hungarian alliance while Eastern a more Turkic and Scythians are another name for Hun-Han.
@@delaramsalmassi4063 Scythians are Turks. This is not even a matter of debate. Half of the Sarmatians are Turkic tribes and half are Iranian. The largest Sarmatian tribe, the Yazig tribe, is Turkic.
The Scythians are a South Ural civilization. There are many rivers there and gold was mined in the rivers. Near the forest-steppe and steppe. Their largest direct descendants now are peoples with a Ugric component. This is most of the Russians (Slavicized Finno-Ugric ethnic groups), Ukrainians (the entire Dnieper was inhabited by Ugrians, and Kyiv was a trading post until the Khazar traders seized power there), all Cossacks, Uighurs of China, Nogais, some clans of Kazakhs, some peoples of the Caucasus like Kumyks, Kabardians, Adygs (Circassians), Abkhazians, also Hungarians, part of the Crimean Tatars, Gagauz in Moldova, part of the Moldovans, part of the Danube population and a small part of modern Turks in northwestern Turkey, also Hungarians, Mansi, almost all Finno-Ugric the peoples of Russia, including the Russians themselves, the Chuvash, part of the Volga Tatars and part of the Bashkirs. But the descendants of the Scythians of Herodotus are most numerous in central Ukraine. From the upper Dnieper to the Southern Bug River. They still live there, but they are Slavicized. The closest languages of Herodotus' Scythians are the modern Hungarian language and the language of the Mansi and Komi people in Russia.
the scythians are still here but they don’t go by that name anymore they are the people in afghanistan pakistan north india and central asia some in east or south europe.
The more advance in genetics people have about scythians the less european or iranian scythians become lol, at some point you would need stop digging down into genetics in order not to lose any legacy of scythians.
Please let me know your thoughts below... Thanks for watching!
Interesting stuff... but its equally important to consider how the scythians were described by the Greeks and Persians and the Chinese... they are European looking with Red and Blonde hair and blue eyes in the sources... perhaps the east Asian element is from some intermarriage form western scythians with Turkic peoples in the east (certainly some Mongolians have blonde hair - although that may have arisen separately...)
I had a thought but was deleted by YT censorship. It was about how the genetic flow between East and Central steppe was strictly female-mediated before the Turkic/Hunnic expansion. It came with an academic reference that I don't dare to repost here for fear of being censored again.
Keep up the good work
@celtichistorydecoded have you ever heard of the Sarmatian Hypothesis?
@@GoogleUserOne I have heard a little. What do you make of it?
I’d recommend watching Asha Logos channel on this topic. The original Scythians did move west into Europe, they were white. Some that stayed East did eventually get race mixed.
he's a fraud
@@mr.purple1779 oh do tell in what way?
The Alan's and others that carried r1b moved west not sarmatians masagetae or sakas and others that carried r1a @@jessedaughtry4433
They were not white. They had east asian/central asian mixture and were Iranic, none of whom were seen as white in any point of history. The ones who described them with light hair never interacted with the eastern scythians, only the ones in Europe who were already mixed with Germanic people/early slavs. Also east asians can have light hair/light eyes as well.
@@jessedaughtry4433 they were Alan's he talks about not the entirety of scythians
Thank you for this detailed and open-minded research. I like that you looked into scientific articles rather than simply Wikipedia.
genetic studies are always of much interest to me, the Scythians as well as the Cimmerian peoples migration are also interesting, the earlier migration of the Cimmerians seems to have some of them going into the area of the Hungarian plains and possibly coming into contact with the Hallstatt/proto-Celt cultures, others of them migrating into Anatolia and the southern parts of the Black Sea area.
The Cimmerians are Thracians.
Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from.
As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period.
www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
The Scythians are a South Ural civilization. There are many rivers there and gold was mined in the rivers. Near the forest-steppe and steppe. Their largest direct descendants now are peoples with a Ugric component. This is most of the Russians (Slavicized Finno-Ugric ethnic groups), Ukrainians (the entire Dnieper was inhabited by Ugrians, and Kyiv was a trading post until the Khazar traders seized power there), all Cossacks, Uighurs of China, Nogais, some clans of Kazakhs, some peoples of the Caucasus like Kumyks, Kabardians, Adygs (Circassians), Abkhazians, also Hungarians, part of the Crimean Tatars, Gagauz in Moldova, part of the Moldovans, part of the Danube population and a small part of modern Turks in northwestern Turkey, also Hungarians, Mansi, almost all Finno-Ugric the peoples of Russia, including the Russians themselves, the Chuvash, part of the Volga Tatars and part of the Bashkirs. But the descendants of the Scythians of Herodotus are most numerous in central Ukraine. From the upper Dnieper to the Southern Bug River. They still live there, but they are Slavicized. The closest languages of Herodotus' Scythians are the modern Hungarian language and the language of the Mansi and Komi people in Russia.
@@expertpovsemvoprosam1667 Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric people meaning Finnish-Hungarian while Eastern where more Turkic people. The Scythians is another word for Hun-Han and Slav-Slöwen speakers in many cases are Slav-Slöwenised Finno-Ugric people whose linguistic conversion came via religious conversion.
As always, thank you for the lesson. A fascinating culture and so widely spread.
Thank you for using BC and AD as it should be. Interesting video too 👍🏼
I appreciated this as well. Christ is King!
Christians really need to begin to understand that it's just not relevant for most of the world's population...
We need a Yamnaya culture playlist please!
Great idea, thanks. ua-cam.com/play/PLY1FjEbcaZAJw9cvxdGHRabjtom530E65.html
Great work
Thank you
The wee doggie thing at the 2.44sec mark reminds me of carvings from göbekli tepe. The people there were were advanced hunter gatherers in Turkey.
History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names.
In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads,
The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
Chinese tocharian mummies are definitely scythians they even have tartan clothing the scots rule the world i reckon.❤ from Australia 🇦🇺
Those Tarim basin mummies have no relation with Tocharians. Latest DNA sequencing researches done by Chinese scientists clearly proved this. Tocharians had no relation with Yuezhi within the vicinity either. Tocharians aren't such an old ethnic group. They most probably some of the Iranic who settled in the Tarim basin by escaping from the wars around in 200-400 CE.
Let's trust Chinese scientists to not lie for communism
Their IE language has been discovered. They were wiped out by the turkish uigurs in 840, some 1200 years ago. "Tocharian" is a confusing word, on purpose used by turks to suggest they came from Bactriana. As their IE language (of the centum group) was NOT of the indo-iranian group, they were NOT scythian, or "iranic". They were descendents of the Afanassievo culture, or another mysterious euro-siberian group which suggests that Yamna culture (100% identical, acc to paleogenetical studies, to Afanassievo culture) may have come from Siberia where other similar groups, like Afanassievo culture, remained ... before being mixed with asian looking people and becoming proto-turkic or proto-hunnic people like the xiongnus, famous enemies of China (great wall was built against them).
In previous message I was refering to the roman-named Serica and to the agnean and kuchean languages, in Tarim bassin, south of "Sinkiang". That's where the famous white-looking mummies were found, close to a dried lake, at the eastern side of the tarim bassin.
Very intelligible, well documented, qualified study! I congratulate you dear friend and I hope you good work, good luck! 👏👏👏
Look at now proven trabseurasic languages.
Yes brother, this proves eurasiatic languages. 👍
But, I think original region is not pontic steppe, I think they are originated from siberia and have traveled through whole euroasia in history. There were older cultures which were not indoeuropean in the beginning. Indoeuropean languages mutated from uralic languages as also classified in eurasiatic languages.
Martina Robbeets claims uralic-altaic languages as older than 9k years.
@@ChristopherTanne-se3pzHow is linguistic theories related to archeo-genetics?
@@serkankinden5150 Indo-Jewropean languages could mutated from A Sian meaning The Scythian languages since like Finnish,Hungarian...Turkic languages we talk about languages that are native in the steppe since they genetics is native and they language grammar is fundamentally different from Indo-Jewropean languages.
The grammar in a language is like a finger print for vocabulary can change but the way people talk and constructs words can't since it's not a matter literacy.
As for the Western Scythians being a Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian alliance while Eastern Scythians being a more Turkic the genetic differences just a linguistic and cultural similarities are self understanding and that's clear from a Hungarian-Macar-Scythian perspective and the evidence of cultural,genetic,linguistic...continuity that I have shared in the answer below.
www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
It's so interesting who we think people are based on place names, I think it's very interesting to try to rediscover what history was using more than place names
Scythians appear in the 8th century BC out of seemingly nowhere, with the Greek and Assyrian writers saying that they first appeared in the Cities of the Medes. This is western Iran.
Yamnaya and Scythian are in the same place, but are not the same people.
Yamnaya left their homeland to invade both Europe and India around 1600BC, 800 years before the Scythians appear in Media/Persia.
What people arrived in Media in the 8th Century BC?
Gee I dunno. Let’s ask the Assyrians.
Assyrians: “That’s where we put the Israelites.”
No, the Scythians appeared in Central Asia, but they invaded southern Russia, Ukraine, and the Caucasus and destroyed the people there, and a large number of these people fled to the Middle East. 😂😂😂😂
@@عليياسر-ف4ن9ك @serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand.
Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture.
This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else.
I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised .
Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures.
This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
@@MAKDavid-1 you are right
@@MAKDavid-1 I agree with every word you say and thank you very much for the completely true historical information you explained in one paragraph.
Actually, I want to say that Proto Turkish is a very old language that is related to the Uralic languages.
@@elifozkendir3171 My comments have been blocked,removed...many times and that's not because they are lies but because they are factual based on interpretation of actual evidence rather then manipuling them to suite some political-religious fiction narrative of Indo-Jewropean linguistic theory which seek to insert languages in to the steppe that doesn't originated from such a languages that in many cases spread via forced religious conversion.
Turkic,Finnish and Hungarian languages are in a grammatical sense similar but have a different vocabulary since like the archeo-genetics points out where and are different people that lived in touch and relative harmony with another without trying to overwhelm the other group and it's lands compared to Indo-Jewropean and Indo-Iranian languages that are a mix of various languages that spread in many cases via forced religious conversion that included genocides a extermination of the population that resisted such conversion ...which resulted in them not knowing what basic names-identities that they claim as they own mean in the language around which they identity revolves.
Great video and love your accent mate
Cheers
Excellent work I really enjoy them! Do you produce any english language content? 😂 Joking bro. Great work as always
Cheers mate
Lol
Scythians are the Aryan cousins of the Persians. Their petroglyph still can be seen on the Parseh/Perspolis walls in Shiraz in Iran(they used to wear pointy helmets)
😂😂 You again?
@@JangoChained you don't have a life do you kid? You remind me of those who larp as Aryans. You're not us, you'll never be us, all you can do is wishing and larping
@@JangoChained get a life kid. Stop larping as something you're not
@@JangoChained get a life.
Stop lrpn
@@JangoChained you wish you were something you're NOT
Perfect. New advances in DNA research show recently acquired genetic evidence of our history. I also do my own research, homework. Studying linguistics, genetic similarities and cultural similarities, show a strong correlation between Gaelic and Scythian culture, Yamnia culture, beaker bell culture, corded ware culture. Etc. ad nauseous
@serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand.
Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture.
This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else.
I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised .
Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures.
This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
The original Scythians and Sarmatians were an Iranian people in origin, Over time the Scythians in the East would have been replaced by East Asians and the Scythians in Central Asia would have become mixed.
History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names.
In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads.
The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
@@MAKDavid-1 🤣🤣🤣
@@VerbalWarrior162 Scythian is another word for Hun and we know that western Scythians where a Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while Eastern Scythians where more Turkic.There was no Indo-Iranian (Slav-Slöwen) Scythians .The word Irian-Arian-Aryan refers to someone whom is a descendant of JAN-YAN-HAN which is a identity and name with its religious significance that was also a title of nobility that Indo-Iranian nor Indo-Jewropean didn't used.
As Ladino speaking Jewish-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople called Greek a late immigrants whom have rebranded Hungarian King Béla 3rd as they Jewnanistani King Alexios together with the entire Cuman-Coman Byzantine dynasty and everything Hungarian-Macar-Scythian they followed they Orthodox identity thieving traditions which is how Varangian nobility a Hungarian-Swedish offshoot A Vár Hungarian nobility got rebranded as Kijewish Rus as well .
@@MagnusVenter369 ?
The last of the stepe Skythians, the Alani, merged with the Moldavians in the 1400s :) so they lasted a lot longer, and the Alani still exist in the Caucasus as the Osetins.
I wonder if there is a connection between the mirror shown at 1:54 and the mirrors shown on many Pictish stone markings.
It's amazing that technically this host and I speak the same language.
I speak Scottish :)
Very interesting. Thank you.
There are two runic lines on a bowl found in Issyk Kurgan in Kazakhstan (The golden man burial, a Saka (Eastern Scythian)) burial. Take a look at them. As far as we know, they have nothing to do with Irish runes but there is visual similarities. Come to Kazakhstan one day! You can see the Golden man and other archeological artefacts in the museums. There are also archeological sites in Russia and Ukraine, and Kyrgyzstan.
Irish used ogham, not runic. Germanic used runes.
Many years of research have long confirmed that the western and eastern Scythians came from different independent sources. The Pontic Scythians were associated with the Srubnaya culture. However, the eastern Scythians are associated with the further development of the art of the Paleolithic of Siberia and Mongolia - Okunevo culture and Deer stones culture, with the participation of Afonasievo and Andronovo cultures. At least the pre-historical Dzungarian pastoralists of the Early Bronze Age had Paleo-Siberian, Ancient Eurasian and Afonasievo ancestry. Proto-Scythian and early Scythian burials are associated specifically with eastern Asia, like early Karsuk culture. Historical Central Asian Saka, except for Paleo-Siberian ancestry, had additionally more eastern Slab Grave-like ancestry and were more similar to their neighbors Xiongnu, at least the Tiele tribes.
But this does not exclude the flow of genes between the western eastern Scythians, at least along the female line, even the Pontic Scythians had about 10% East Asian ancestry. Some think that the young Sarmatians were a certain group of Srubniks from the Urals, since the Sarmatians were relatively more homogeneous than the Scythians. But it is more likely that they were a group associated with the oldest Karsuk and Dzungarian pastoralists, most likely Wusun, or Yuezhi from Chinese sources. Since the Sarmatians are not at all similar to the Central Europeans, as Srubnaya does, although they are homogeneous in their own Central Asian cluster. In 2024, there is a preprint from Harvarad on the network, which explains the originated of Turkic languages from the mixing of the two Altai cultures Bulan Koby and Kok Pash, that is, the late Saka and Hunnu. Finaly the Central Asian Saka were most similar to the modern Bashkirs, Siberian Tatars, and parts of the Altai Teleuts.The Karsuk culture and the Cimmerians were most similar to the Volga Tatars, respectively Sarmatians. There are no Pontic Scythians, as they were defeated by the Sarmatians and then absorbed by the Goths. Therefore, today their admixture is found mainly in Western Europe, especially the Germans. Recently there was paper on the Roman frontier. And the barbarian invasions turned out to be essentially Goths with Central Asian nomadic admixture.
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I'm a Scot with Scottish, Irish and north western European making up over 96% of my DNA. Looking deeper into the ancient European breakdown shows me 42% for the Eurasian Steppe and Baltic areas, and it's certainly not a recent addition by any means. I'm not a great believer in the ramblings of the Arbroath declaration, I suspect it was largely embellished for reasons best known to the writers, but I can't deny the possibility remains. More research is required.
West Scythians definitely mixed with Balts and Balkan people as they migrated to the region. We know it from DNA evidence from their burrrials. West Scythians were more of West Eurasian (Caucasus region), EHG, and some admixtures of East Eurasian and other tribes.
Is there any connection between the Scythians and the Huns and the mongols?
Not really. The Huns were surely the same as the first Turkics to adventure into the Central and Western steppe (Western Eurasian steppe) and did so c. 90 CE after they were soundly defeated by China. A few centuries later they had recovered and threatened Europe and India, with the last remnants of the Scythians, the Alans, being one of the many populations they pushed against Rome in dread.
Great question, thanks. I will need to look into that.
Most directly related. The Scythians originated the Xiongnu, but the Xiongnu originated the Huns. Pazyryk culture (Asian Saka Scythians) was transformed into the culture of the Hunnic type Bulan Koba. And also the Huns moving westward met with the Sarmatians. They formed the Hunno-Sarmatian period. And then the modern Volga Tatar people. (Kipchak-speaking former nomads). And the small Altai peoples - Tubalar, Teleut and so on and especially the Siberian Tatars are close to Pazyrykians. The history of nomads is completely not about the Persians and other southern Middle Eastern Iranoid Arabic or Hindus Asians. They just never happened there.
@@mr.purple1779 - Nope. The Scythians are not at the origin of the Xiongnu, unless you mean very tangentially via the spread of horse riding to the East.
The Scythians or steppe Iranics were conquered and absorbed by the Xiongnu/Huns/Turkics after these were expelled from the Eastern steppe by China.
@@LuisAldamiz You're wrong. Early western Xiongnu are descended from the same sources as their neighbors, i.e. Paleo-Siberian-Eurasian. Eastern Xiongnu from Slab Grave. But closer to the Avar period, the Slab Grave component began to prevail, which replaced the Siberians. That is why the Pazyryk Scythians were Turkic-speaking.
Another great video on the topic of Yamnaya descendants. Small correction to the map showing modern political boundaries relative to the Yamnaya homeland - Crimea is a part of Ukraine.
@serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand.
Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture.
This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else.
I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised .
Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures.
This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
Nope. They're Russian. They voted to be annexed by Russia. Russia annexed them. Crimea was always Russian.
@@Baptized_in_Fire. Russia violently invaded and occupied Crimea which is not recognized by the international community as part of Russia. The invasion was and remains a violation of Article II of the UN Charter. The referendum was held under conditions of military occupation and mass migration, much of it coerced by Russia.
Russia recognized the independence and territorial integrity, including boundaries, of Ukraine in 1992. In signing the Budapest Memorandum, Russia committed to not attack Ukraine. But Russia's word cannot be trusted.
Why you, or any decent-minded person, would support violent land theft and colonization in this day and age baffles me.
Excellent video. Oddly enough, even Cimmerians had an eastern asian admixture
Thank you
Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean linguistic,cultural,genetic..continuity is there but Scythians where not a Indo-Jewropean speakers.
@@MAKDavid-1there is no evidence of their writing or language aside from two runic lines found on a dish/vase in Kazakhstan (Issyk Kurgan, the burial of the Golden Man). Those runic lines actually resemble early runic writing of Turkic tribes which would emerge later in that region.
@@Casualphilosopher-db9gy There is plenty of evidence that supports a Sumerian-Cimmerian-Crimean genetic and cultural continuity.
Scythians-Huns can be broken in a 4 fundamental groups from which Hungarian-Macar-Scythian are a Western Scythians that are native in such lands,Eastern Scythians a Turkic speakers with a more central position on the continent,Mongols and Saka in Yakutsk and those of Hindu Kush area which like Ottomans that are connected to modern Iranians.
The original Scythians and Sarmatians were an Iranian people in origin, Over time the Scythians in the East would have been replaced by East Asians and the Scythians in Central Asia would have become mixed.
History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names.
In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads,
The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
Here we go again. Saar we are actually Scythian Iranic people saar. Having literally no DNA relationship to Schytians doesn't matter saar Persians are Aryan
Did you not listen to the research discussed in the video? They sample ALL skeletons since Iron Age, that includes early groups. There is no evidence of them being Iranian aside from some Persian sources referring to SOME Scythian tribes as eastern Iranians. Considering the constant mixing that Scythians underwent, it’s not surprising that some tribes that lived closer to Persia would over time mix a lot with Persians and even adopt their language. We have no evidence of Scythian writing except for runic writing on a graal found in a tomb in Kazakhstan (the Issyk Kurgan). That’s all. No writing evidence, no transcriptions in other languages. Just two lines of runic writing. I was a proponent of Iranian theory, but I looked up the DNA of ancient and modern Iranians, and both don’t match. Proponents of Iranian theory make fun of everyone who disagrees, but why don’t you look at facts.
Herodotus was very precise about where scythians lived, and their eastern border did not stretch beyond the Done river.
The original Scythians and Sarmatians were an Iranian people in origin, Over time the Scythians in the East would have been replaced by East Asians and the Scythians in Central Asia would have become mixed.
History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names.
In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads,
The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
@@VerbalWarrior162 The Scythians were not Indo-Europeans. I wrote above who the Scythians were.
@@expertpovsemvoprosam1667 He lives in fantasy
Greeks didn’t know everything. There are burials found in Central Asia and Siberia of that time period that resemble that culture materially and genetically. However, this channel explained that Western and Eastern Scythians emerged at the same independently and had slightly different genetic pool. They had common ancestors, but western Scythians were more from West Eurasians, and Eastern Scythians were more of East Eurasian ancestry. Both intermixed with each other, and then west Scythians mixed with Balts and Balkan people as they moved to Europe. So they were a genetically diverse group with similar culture.
Ochre, as in metre, fibre, centre,
Yamnaya rhymes with yummier
You mixed scithians with the massagetae on the map. They were related but different.
Scithians are the Yamnaya that got,, civilised,, by the getae which then got further into India and Persia.
Make a video about the massagetae.
Please post an explanation of them migrating to Persia in the comment section, so that proponents of the Iranian theory would chill.
Massagets were a tribe of Eastern Scythians, called Saka. They had four tribes, if I remember correctly. Yamnaya and Scythians probably originate from ancient Eurasians, as both R1a and R1b haplogroups originate from R haplogroup.
interestingly the later khazarian empire closely aligns with the scythian one
History has preserved the names of some of them: Ishpakaia, Bartatua, Madyes, Idanthyrsus, , Skyles, Tigratavā , Octamasadas, Xāravalāna, Artavatauxma, Zarinaea, Sodasa, Sawarmag, Saurmag, and Zari- "golden". This was the name of a legendary Saka (Scythian) warrior queen. They are descended from what is called andronovo horizon they are Indo-Iranian horse nomads Iranians speaker, they have Iranian names.
In Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, the name "Scythian" was used in Greco-Roman and Byzantine literature for various groups of nomadic "barbarians" living on the Pontic-Caspian steppe who were not related to the actual Scythians, such as the Huns, Goths, Ostrogoths, Turkic peoples, Pannonian Avars, Slavs and Khazars. For example, Byzantine sources referred to Russian raiders attacking Constantinople in AD 860. in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians" because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of ethnic relationship to the Scythians. The Scythians were part of the wider Scytho-Siberian world, which spanned the Eurasian steppes of Kazakhstan, the Russian steppes of the Siberian, Ural, Volga and southern regions, and eastern Ukraine. In a broader sense, the Scythians have also been used to denote all early Eurasian nomads, although the validity of such terminology is controversial, the Scythians, Saka and Cimmerians were closely related nomadic Iranian peoples, and the ancient Babylonians, the ancient Persians and the ancient Greeks used respectively the names "Cimmerian", "Saka" and "Scythian" for all the steppe nomads,
The Mongoloid (Proto-Turkic) peoples in the Altai Mountains embraced Iranic Scythian culture (horsemanship, nomadic way of life, traditions, clothing) and mixed with the Scythians to form their own unique Iranic-Mongoloid
@@VerbalWarrior162 Moğollar ile Proto-Türkler arasında soybağı ilişkisi bulunmamaktadır. İki dil arasında da ortak kökenli kelime yok denecek kadar azdır.
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@@MagnusVenter369 Your unreal words about the Turks denounce you; the inaccuracy of the historical information you wrote above shows that you do not know the real history...
@@elifozkendir3171 I just laugh loudly ROFL, no comment just smile
Eastern Europe, languages TOO We are here
West Scythians > East Scythians 😎Always rooting for my R1b brothers.
Maybe because that from where you originate from hence had such ancestry?Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand.
Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture.
This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else.
I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised .
Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures.
This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
R1b is associated with transgenderism. I can't cook it up...
I have sad news for you, Scythians came from the East.
@@Sadoyasturadoglu corded ware is your dad, cry more
@@Whitdauthaz 😂😂
In Iran We Have Region's Called "Tapurstan" and "Sakastan"
Tapur and Saka are the name of Scythian tribes
( "Stan" is Iranic and Indo European word for Land and has nothing to do with islamic turks and arabs)
Isn't Iran an Islamic republic?
@@JangoChained you're pathetic, just stop
@@JangoChained coping and seething hard aren't ya
@@PatriotOfPersia LOL you really do jls of Iranians aren't ya
Scythian language is much like Pushto language or we can say the old Pushto is Scythian language
So not Scots
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We've all got steppe ancestry
Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from.
As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period.
www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
So the Scythians were EURASIANS. The Western Scythians more European and the Eastern Scythians more East Asian/Siberian ADMIXTURE-wise.
Scythians are an Eastern Iranic
All care hearing about is the Scythian Amazons part of it
There are many turkik words in English
And Many Arabic and Persian in Turkish
@@Khosrow_Mirshekari as well as there are many turkic words in Arabic and Persian)))
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Not as much as there is Persian and Arabic in Turkish. Even Turkish words that are used in Persian and Arabic have equivalents and can be easily replaced. But for example, no word for city has been invented in the Turkish language and still foreign words are used !
@@Khosrow_Mirshekari it is your opinion
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They were not White Caucasians. It's slavic expansion to the east that spread European genes in that region, before they were east asian/mongoloid mixed with Iranian in appearance. Why do you think when Russia took over all those lands none of the native people look Aryan?
Because without your genius 65 IQ points, no one could come to this conclusion before.
@@mr.purple1779 tell that to all the retarded indo european larpers who think they have ancestors from that region who looked as white as someone from modern day Sweden.
So were Scythians hapa??
German polish russian scythian
Persia
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The Scythians were not Indo-Europeans. I wrote above who the Scythians were.
@@expertpovsemvoprosam1667who are you
Depicts Crimea as part of Russia. And I thought about subscribing.
Scytho-Sarmatians were the PROTO SLAVS. They occupy the same area.
Ne nebyli, Slované jsou v Evropě doma na Balkánu a v Panonii, potom, když překročili Karpaty, tak se mísili se Sarmaty a více se usazovali a zaměřili se na zemědělství, poté vznikali státy na východ od Karpat až po dnešní Rusko, Ukrajinu apod.
@@MagnusVenter369This claim that hordes of Slavs suddenly appeared in 600 AD out of nothing from nowhere to conquer approx 7 million sq miles is ridiculous. The Slavs are the largest ethnolinguistic group in Europe. They control the largest land mass in Eurasia, from the Danube to Siberia. That takes a long time. Consider the similarity in Slavic and Sarmatian dress, horsemanship and weapons. Part of the Balkans borders on the Black Sea. And where were the Scytho-Sarmatians? On the Black Sea. Like the the Sarmatians, the Slavs spread east and west from the Black Sea to control a huge land mass. The Scytho-Sarmatians were the Proto Slavs.
Western Scythians were Slavic,Iranian while Eastern was Turkic and thats why there is relation with three ethnic groups but them Aryan d suckers love making them full Aryans.
Awricht Gadge! Σκυθης = Skuthes pronounced Skuts where the u is like the u in up. Giving rise to the Romans recording Scot and plural Scotti. All suported by myth stories, linguitics, orthography and mostly DNA. Scythian was always pronounced Skutian. Check modern German Skythen or Skythisch. Just saying :)
scythians are iranian people they spoke like us they lived like us they dressed like us this really don't need a prove
There is no evidence of their writing and speaking except of two runic lines which have nothing to do with Iranians. Iranian influence on Ossetian and Tajik languages was due to other languages. You guys need help. Many different modern people may have some Scythian ancestry, including you, due to their migrations. Doesn’t mean you can just claim someone else’s culture and heritage. It’s like African Americans calling Cleopatra Greek. Also, we know how Scythians and Saka dressed. It doesn’t look similar to Iranians.
0:24 2500 years old
Hand made
The quality of workmanship
Unmatched even today
Jock Tampsons all....but Picts are inuets.
Targutay ( 1400-1500 BC Scythian leader big big big father) Avars khazar ogurs huns kökturk all people name Targutay ( Eagle Falcon )
You have incorrect map of Ukraine there.
Saka inscription now proven iranic 2023
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Türkler de R1a yoğun ve Z93.sanat yokmuş .pazarıkta çıkan altın elbiseli adamın kıyafetini görün.dünyanın en eski halısını görün...
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Dude, if you spoke Scythian it would be easier to understand you. Donghu were the Far East, Asians, Dingling the Baykal Proto-Turks. Don't use "kurgan" which is a Turkish word for Pontic Scythians, but "tumuli" which is a Latin word with Proto-Indoeuropean base...Scythian art ended when the Turks usurped the leadership and after Xiongnu it was all gone, Turks did not do art, or very little. Turks you see...
Tureg, Not Turks.
I see you cant withstand to reality. I really appreciated youtuber's effort. Turkic people were also artistic, look at east roman comments on gokturk sculpture abilities. Dont hesitate friend!
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Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from.
As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period.
www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
In Iran We Have Saying
*Mard Bi Honar Turkast"
It's Kinda Racist
But It's Means Turks Don't have any art but Stealing
Some of the Scythians are from Israel.
What are you talking about?
Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from.
As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period.
www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
@@MAKDavid-1 The Scythian people were 63% is R1a from Ashkenaz, 18% is Q from the Medes, about 5% is R1b from Riphath, a good 4% is J2 from Judah, 2% is E from Egyptian, 1.6% is I2 from the Israelite tribe of Asher.
Sumer had an agglutinative language structure as a known language. This language is similar to the Turkic languages and the Uralic languages today. Abraham was probably a Sumerian priest. The DNA may have passed from there. And don't forget the Khazar khanate. The Ashi clan was the founding family of the Khazar Khaganate. And tell about the ancestors of the Huns, the Turks. I'll leave it here for you to think about. As a Turk and a Muslim, I don't like it, but I see this attachment. I think he mixed the Jews with the Semitic people.
@@bir_cumle Yes Abraham was a Sumerian from a Sumerian city called Ur and yes his descendants are not the only Semitic people obviously. There are Lydians, Arameans, Assyrians and Elamites. Languages sometimes give clues but the genetics are absolute. Very often the other Semitic people are just considered to be Arabic.
The historical record shows that everyone spread out from Mesopotamia. Ancient history is essential for everyone to know, especially the sixteen original civilizations… from the sixteen grandsons of Noah. It’s necessary to learn ancient history before trying to learn science.
1. The first inhabitants of Italy (K) Tubal
2. Thracians (L) Tiras
3. Siberians (N) Meshek
4. East Asians (O) Magog
5. Medes (PQ) Madai
6.. Western Europeans (R) Gomer
7. Mediterranean Greek sea people (T) Javan
8. Hebrews and Arabic (IJ) Arphaxad
9. Elamites (H) Elam
10. Assyrians (G) Asshur
11. Arameans (F1) Aram
12. Lydians (F2) Lud
13. Cushites (AB, C) Cush
14. Egyptians (E3) Mitzrayim
15. Canaanites (E2, D) Canaan
16. Original North African Phoenicians (E1) Phut
The D haplogroup descendants of Canaan migrated east through Tibet all the way to Japan. The C haplogroup descendants of Nimrod migrated to South Asia, the Pacific, Mongolia, Australia and all the way to the Americas along with Q haplogroup descendants of Madai ancestor of the Medes.
The A maternal mtDNA haplogroup belonging to the N lineage accompanied the Q paternal haplogroup in the Americas. The C&D maternal haplogroups belong to the M lineage. The B maternal haplogroup seems to have crossed the Pacific Ocean.
The Mediterranean paternal R1b and the maternal X2a also found in Galilee represent an Atlantic crossing of the Phoenicians in the days of King Solomon considering also the Mediterranean paternal haplogroups of T, G, I1, I2, J1, J2, E and B in addition to the R1b in Native American Populations. J1 and J2 is Arabs and Jews. (I1 is Dan, I2 is Asher)
Of course there is the Cohen modal haplotype of J1 P58 which identifies the IJ lineage of Hebrews and Arabs that are descended from Arphaxad. J2 M172 is the descendants of the House of David and Solomon.
@@bir_cumle The word Ábra,Ábrám ...is a Hungarian-Macar-Scythian word just as ÚR meaning Lord to which we add the genetic,cultural,linguistic continuety of Sumerian-Cimmerian-Crimean we get a understanding that Sumerian-Elomite that got rebranded as Shemitic people a descendant of Shem where a different group of people and not Arabs or Jews-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople.
Yes Ural is a Hungarian word as well to which add the Khazar which would have been a Hungarian group mostly it explains whom Ashkenazi a Khazar Jews are .
We know that Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric people meaning Finnish-Hungarian alliance while Eastern a more Turkic and Scythians are another name for Hun-Han.
Old Turkish people 🐺 ⛺️
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Just tell me Who is not Turkish????
@@EsfandiarNokhodakiDo you drink horse milk, Esfandiyar? Scythians drank horse milk, just like the Turks.
@@babaeren62The Scythians and the Sarmatians and the Alans were Aryan/Iranic/Iranian Peoples!
@@delaramsalmassi4063 Scythians are Turks. This is not even a matter of debate.
Half of the Sarmatians are Turkic tribes and half are Iranian.
The largest Sarmatian tribe, the Yazig tribe, is Turkic.
The Scythians are a South Ural civilization. There are many rivers there and gold was mined in the rivers. Near the forest-steppe and steppe. Their largest direct descendants now are peoples with a Ugric component. This is most of the Russians (Slavicized Finno-Ugric ethnic groups), Ukrainians (the entire Dnieper was inhabited by Ugrians, and Kyiv was a trading post until the Khazar traders seized power there), all Cossacks, Uighurs of China, Nogais, some clans of Kazakhs, some peoples of the Caucasus like Kumyks, Kabardians, Adygs (Circassians), Abkhazians, also Hungarians, part of the Crimean Tatars, Gagauz in Moldova, part of the Moldovans, part of the Danube population and a small part of modern Turks in northwestern Turkey, also Hungarians, Mansi, almost all Finno-Ugric the peoples of Russia, including the Russians themselves, the Chuvash, part of the Volga Tatars and part of the Bashkirs. But the descendants of the Scythians of Herodotus are most numerous in central Ukraine. From the upper Dnieper to the Southern Bug River. They still live there, but they are Slavicized. The closest languages of Herodotus' Scythians are the modern Hungarian language and the language of the Mansi and Komi people in Russia.
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the scythians are still here but they don’t go by that name anymore they are the people in afghanistan pakistan north india and central asia some in east or south europe.
The Scythians are today Ossetians
The more advance in genetics people have about scythians the less european or iranian scythians become lol, at some point you would need stop digging down into genetics in order not to lose any legacy of scythians.