Brother youtubers need to stop the Fugue slander. Fugue is going to continue to be good into the future due to the HP and toughness hyperinflation and the fact that she gives superbreak and exotoughness properties for your whole party. Efectively patches your pre robin characters to make them useful in future meta comps. Sure sunday is going to be good but for someone like me that didnt pull any summon characters and I took a 3 month break from the game, I have 0 reasons to pull sunday and the next character with summon is Aglea. Fugue will preserve my current investment and I can pull Sunday into the future.
She literally is unusable outside of break teams we're at Breaks literal peak there's no future unless they make a remembrance Superbreak dps cuz if this ship goes down so does she
@@Kris-w4w4h This video is also not realising that... Sunday's best utility is in... Effectively, summons. And what summon path is going to come at 3.0 do I wonder? Remembrance...
@@Rip_FoxIscoo That take is absolutely bad and here's why firstly Fugue can't go into crit typical teams like ruan can you are trolling if you are because the only thing she'll offer is Def reduction and not alot 18%💀 an eidolon does more than that not to mention pela with the 2 turn aoe ult applies a massive 42% (58 with pearls) def shred and she's a 4 star Ruan provides stuff like 68% damage bonus and speed which actually are helpful so No Fugue is limited to break end of discussion
@@Kris-w4w4h brother can you read? Do you understand what I said? Current meta if you didnt pull in the past 3 months (like me) or all your characters are pre robin, you may have some break characters but you cant effectively complete MoC without having the latest break related characters. This MoC is Feixiao, Rappa.Because of element. I can tell you that out of experience. Superbreak is not going away soon and if anything, it will cycle the meta but the HP and Toughness inflation is not going away. Even if it goes away Break and superbreak is more effective damage than Crit in this game. Also she deals with exo toughness as a new mechanic. If you know anything about Honkai games, they will never fix your old invested characters to accomodate to the new meta. They will release a support that “patches” your old characters to make them usable. Sure you can have Ruan Mei, Harmony MC, Firefly and a sustainer on one side to deal with current meta. What do you have for the other side Acheron and pela which neither is effective because even with defense resuction, the actual damage comes from breaking the shields fast enough? Do you think that they will release Fugue to be unusable? You have to take you head out of your ass. Sunday is only good right now if you pulled lingsha, numby, the general and thats basically it. Anything else he does is not different from Bronya, sparkle or Ruan Mei. I will not benefit personally from Sunday because I already have all the aforementioned built and usable. Buying Sunday to be another mid tier harmony character in my account while waiting to pull characters for him to shine is a stupid decision and I swear there is going to be a bunch of people that will pull for hype instead of utility of the character. Thats my point. Fugue is a character made to patch past present and future characters enabling new mechanics with harmony properties while not being harmony which is insane in itself. Sunday is a character that patches summon characters and bring a “possible” new meta that is not out yet. If you can afford or have summon characters, Sunday is surely a character you want over Fugue but if you dont, pulling him is not going to make a difference if you own the current harmony characters. Thats basically it.
Imo Fugue has more general uses in practice. Yes she’d shine in break and superbreak teams. But being the only other superbreak enabler & def reducer has a lot more universal uses. If Pela is good in a lot of teams then Fugue is great in all of them. Pela pro max with added superbreak enabling.
@@silhouette9699 Just because it's BiS doesn't mean it's applicable to everyone else playing the game. If someone can only pick one character this patch to roll on, absolutely the better option is Sunday rather than another break support.
@@persephonehades7547 Bruh. Reading comprehension really hits with this one. I said that if you want to play break after 3.0 - you need to get Fugue cuz RMC gonna be playing with Remembrance dps. If you have other teams or you don't wanna play break - you can just skip her. Also, you can easily skip Sunday if you don't gonna play summons. There's gonna be a plenty meta dps without summoning mechanic so he's only the best option if you gonna pull for Aglae and future remembrance. That doesn't mean that Fugue is a better option but Sunday is as easily skippable as she is
My only dps characters are Ratio and Acheron and I still can't decide... Debuffs from fugue look really tempting but is it worth it if I have no interest in break?
i'll have to disagree that sunday buffs characters like hunt m7, moze or sparkle. You said yourself, sunday is used on hypercarry teams, and those are 'subdps' characters that run with a main dps. Like dr ratio or feixiao. And in this scenario, robin offers way more than he could ever expect. Also, slow counter characters (clara and yunli) usually don't want/like the action advance, that is one of his main selling points. Reminder that Dr. Ratio also needs a debuffer to be able to use his FuAs too.
IMO Sunday isn’t worth pulling right now if you’re getting Herta instead of Aglaea. Ruan Mei reran with Firefly, Sunday will rerun with his best carry. If you’re getting Aglaea or love JY, get Sunday.
Pure cope on Sunday being more versatile. Lets have an actual look at what you can run him with 1.0 dps -- Still meh even with sunday. Acheron -- Sure if you have e2 Acheron and no e2 sparkle. Not a massive upgrade due to the lack of energy usage. Boothill -- Minor upgrade over Bronya. Yunli -- Yep. Doesn't like AA as much as you'd like tho Other FUA units-- Why ???? Like you can but its like pulling JQ to buff Feixiaos Ultimate. Fugue has e2 FF (non e2 is a minor upgrade -- similar to the 3 above), BH and Rappa as major upgrades. Yawn. Skip Sunday and pull on the re-run if he doesnt get power-crept /dual dps ect. Its also terrible to pull blind into a new meta as a F2P. Fugue is only worth a pull if you want to run break in 3.0.
@@keneunaegbu851 EDIT: my claim is he doesn't have a lot of value NOW, by 3.1 sure? But whens he going to rerun? 3.2 probably. Every current hyper-carry* is irrelevant and Sunday doesn't fix that. You're literally pulling making washed characters less bad or to sit in your account doing nothing for a couple of patches. *Unless you include Acheron... but then you are wasting his energy regen and you need e2... Don't get me wrong there teams you can play Sunday on its just not noticeably BETTER compared to keeping your current Super-break/ Acheron/ FUA teams none of which particularly want a Sunday. Feel free to pull I just don't see the point till the rerun, if I had infinite jades I'd probably muck around with using him for crit Lingsha but...
@d077Z Just because 1.X units don't 0 or 1 cycle endgame content doesn't mean giving them an upgrade is "irrelevant". Don't you realise that you need to clear within 10 cycles to get 3 stars in MoC? And why are you acting as if Aglaea isn't dropping in 3.0? The Sunday downplay is just ridiculous. Why do people always do this with Harmony characters? Doesn't matter when you pull him, he will be useful regardless. It's better for people to pull him now so you don't have to pull him alongside another character later like people had to do with Feixiao and Robin, or Firefly and Ruan Mei.
Even sunday literally offers nothing... He's > Fugue Even fugue T0 on prydwen and sunday is T1000, he's still > Fugue At least E2S S1 for me, so he can reuinite with Jing Yuan and make their own doujin.
sunday is a hyper carry support but technically can be a Dual dps support because if summon dps do dmg with there memosprites and them self that is 2 dps in a way lol we will have to see tho
I E0S1’d Sunday and I’ll keep 10-pulling each time i get enough, never singles. Aiming for E1. Reasons i pulled him; 1. He makes king yuan and crit lingsha super duper fun. 2. 3.x is gonna be summon meta. 3. Wanted him ever since he was revealed in game story way back when. Skipping Fugue coz; 1. Hoolay gets permanent weakness hide in 3.1. 2. She isn’t even Firefly’s bis compared to Rappa and Bootycheeks (whom i didn’t pull). 3. She might actually be better for Acheron than she is break teams /j. Use her skill on Aventurine making him debuff every basic (but i already got his E2 so pointless).
BLADE HAS THE MOST TO OFFER ON MY ACCOUNT SO PLEASE RERUN HIM HOYO I BEG E6S5 DREAM I'LL PAY WHATEVER IT TAKES
How do you have a Summon team with one character who only buffs one guy & his summon? Sounds more like a hyper carry comeback.
That's two characters my guy
I will just do of what I know is best: pulling randomly and hoping into getting both.
The true gacha method Lmao
you... you get it...
Brother youtubers need to stop the Fugue slander. Fugue is going to continue to be good into the future due to the HP and toughness hyperinflation and the fact that she gives superbreak and exotoughness properties for your whole party. Efectively patches your pre robin characters to make them useful in future meta comps. Sure sunday is going to be good but for someone like me that didnt pull any summon characters and I took a 3 month break from the game, I have 0 reasons to pull sunday and the next character with summon is Aglea. Fugue will preserve my current investment and I can pull Sunday into the future.
She literally is unusable outside of break teams we're at Breaks literal peak there's no future unless they make a remembrance Superbreak dps cuz if this ship goes down so does she
@@Kris-w4w4h This video is also not realising that... Sunday's best utility is in... Effectively, summons. And what summon path is going to come at 3.0 do I wonder? Remembrance...
@@Kris-w4w4h def down is a universal buff same with res pen and vulnerability and where ruan mei can fit fugue can also fit
@@Rip_FoxIscoo That take is absolutely bad and here's why firstly Fugue can't go into crit typical teams like ruan can you are trolling if you are because the only thing she'll offer is Def reduction and not alot 18%💀 an eidolon does more than that not to mention pela with the 2 turn aoe ult applies a massive 42% (58 with pearls) def shred and she's a 4 star Ruan provides stuff like 68% damage bonus and speed which actually are helpful so No Fugue is limited to break end of discussion
@@Kris-w4w4h brother can you read? Do you understand what I said? Current meta if you didnt pull in the past 3 months (like me) or all your characters are pre robin, you may have some break characters but you cant effectively complete MoC without having the latest break related characters. This MoC is Feixiao, Rappa.Because of element. I can tell you that out of experience. Superbreak is not going away soon and if anything, it will cycle the meta but the HP and Toughness inflation is not going away. Even if it goes away Break and superbreak is more effective damage than Crit in this game. Also she deals with exo toughness as a new mechanic. If you know anything about Honkai games, they will never fix your old invested characters to accomodate to the new meta. They will release a support that “patches” your old characters to make them usable. Sure you can have Ruan Mei, Harmony MC, Firefly and a sustainer on one side to deal with current meta. What do you have for the other side Acheron and pela which neither is effective because even with defense resuction, the actual damage comes from breaking the shields fast enough? Do you think that they will release Fugue to be unusable? You have to take you head out of your ass. Sunday is only good right now if you pulled lingsha, numby, the general and thats basically it. Anything else he does is not different from Bronya, sparkle or Ruan Mei. I will not benefit personally from Sunday because I already have all the aforementioned built and usable. Buying Sunday to be another mid tier harmony character in my account while waiting to pull characters for him to shine is a stupid decision and I swear there is going to be a bunch of people that will pull for hype instead of utility of the character. Thats my point. Fugue is a character made to patch past present and future characters enabling new mechanics with harmony properties while not being harmony which is insane in itself. Sunday is a character that patches summon characters and bring a “possible” new meta that is not out yet. If you can afford or have summon characters, Sunday is surely a character you want over Fugue but if you dont, pulling him is not going to make a difference if you own the current harmony characters. Thats basically it.
Best team comps for sunday
-Ultimate
-Summon
niche teams
-hyper carry
-boothill
Best team comps for fugue
-Superbreak/break
niche teams
-dual
-debuffs
Fugue is the only choice
Imo Fugue has more general uses in practice. Yes she’d shine in break and superbreak teams. But being the only other superbreak enabler & def reducer has a lot more universal uses. If Pela is good in a lot of teams then Fugue is great in all of them. Pela pro max with added superbreak enabling.
You NEED Fugue if you want to play break after 3.0. Cuz Remembrance MC is needed in Aglae teams and most likely in JY teams too
True if you pull for her you it make fugue a must pull of one of your main teams is a break team
Aglaea is a summoner. So is Jing Yuan, if that's what JY means...Sunday lol
@@persephonehades7547 What? You play both Sunday and RMC with Aglae and JY. At least for Aglae it's her BiS team so far. We'll see for JY
@@silhouette9699 Just because it's BiS doesn't mean it's applicable to everyone else playing the game. If someone can only pick one character this patch to roll on, absolutely the better option is Sunday rather than another break support.
@@persephonehades7547 Bruh. Reading comprehension really hits with this one. I said that if you want to play break after 3.0 - you need to get Fugue cuz RMC gonna be playing with Remembrance dps. If you have other teams or you don't wanna play break - you can just skip her. Also, you can easily skip Sunday if you don't gonna play summons. There's gonna be a plenty meta dps without summoning mechanic so he's only the best option if you gonna pull for Aglae and future remembrance. That doesn't mean that Fugue is a better option but Sunday is as easily skippable as she is
I have guaranteed 60-ish pity, Ima do a ten pull right now, if I get him then cool, if I don’t get him in that ten pull right now ima get Fugue…
Didn’t get him, buuuut that’s for the best since I have Boothill AND Rappa on my account with plans to also pull for Firefly.
I lost my 50 to yanking
Like the way you presented this, good speculation as well!
Im pulling for Fugue e1
I hope 3.0 and remembrance is exciting. The powercreep and showing off all those damn characters made me feel exhausted.
I totally agree.
dude Fugue has colorless break and her skill gives an ally colorless break
That sunday pic is cursed💀
Fugue to me is more interesting. I wanna try her with Clara and Blade, as well as jing yuan other than SB and Acheron (yes im crazy) 😊😋
My only dps characters are Ratio and Acheron and I still can't decide... Debuffs from fugue look really tempting but is it worth it if I have no interest in break?
i'll have to disagree that sunday buffs characters like hunt m7, moze or sparkle. You said yourself, sunday is used on hypercarry teams, and those are 'subdps' characters that run with a main dps. Like dr ratio or feixiao. And in this scenario, robin offers way more than he could ever expect. Also, slow counter characters (clara and yunli) usually don't want/like the action advance, that is one of his main selling points. Reminder that Dr. Ratio also needs a debuffer to be able to use his FuAs too.
IMO Sunday isn’t worth pulling right now if you’re getting Herta instead of Aglaea. Ruan Mei reran with Firefly, Sunday will rerun with his best carry. If you’re getting Aglaea or love JY, get Sunday.
I love super break team so Im going to fugue I have robin and sparkle so Im good ❤
Just summoned Sunday because I cant get any good Crit relics for the life of me.
I shouldn’t laugh but this is so valid 😂
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR MY BLADE RERUN HOPES I HAVE MONEY E6S5 DREAM
Shurly they are saving him for 3.0 bc he is a META breaking unit and he can only be included with the best
Pure cope on Sunday being more versatile.
Lets have an actual look at what you can run him with
1.0 dps -- Still meh even with sunday.
Acheron -- Sure if you have e2 Acheron and no e2 sparkle. Not a massive upgrade due to the lack of energy usage.
Boothill -- Minor upgrade over Bronya.
Yunli -- Yep. Doesn't like AA as much as you'd like tho
Other FUA units-- Why ???? Like you can but its like pulling JQ to buff Feixiaos Ultimate.
Fugue has e2 FF (non e2 is a minor upgrade -- similar to the 3 above), BH and Rappa as major upgrades.
Yawn. Skip Sunday and pull on the re-run if he doesnt get power-crept /dual dps ect. Its also terrible to pull blind into a new meta as a F2P.
Fugue is only worth a pull if you want to run break in 3.0.
Me when I am delusional:
He works with every current hypercarry and will work with the future remembrance characters. He is more versatile, end of
@@keneunaegbu851
EDIT: my claim is he doesn't have a lot of value NOW, by 3.1 sure? But whens he going to rerun? 3.2 probably.
Every current hyper-carry* is irrelevant and Sunday doesn't fix that. You're literally pulling making washed characters less bad or to sit in your account doing nothing for a couple of patches.
*Unless you include Acheron... but then you are wasting his energy regen and you need e2...
Don't get me wrong there teams you can play Sunday on its just not noticeably BETTER compared to keeping your current Super-break/ Acheron/ FUA teams none of which particularly want a Sunday.
Feel free to pull I just don't see the point till the rerun, if I had infinite jades I'd probably muck around with using him for crit Lingsha but...
me when I don't have a brain
@d077Z Just because 1.X units don't 0 or 1 cycle endgame content doesn't mean giving them an upgrade is "irrelevant". Don't you realise that you need to clear within 10 cycles to get 3 stars in MoC? And why are you acting as if Aglaea isn't dropping in 3.0?
The Sunday downplay is just ridiculous. Why do people always do this with Harmony characters? Doesn't matter when you pull him, he will be useful regardless. It's better for people to pull him now so you don't have to pull him alongside another character later like people had to do with Feixiao and Robin, or Firefly and Ruan Mei.
Fugue
Mentioning Floppa over Peaksha as a break dps is craaaaazy.
Ikr? I feel dumb pulling for flopfly, because my peaksha killed them all instead 🫥
Even sunday literally offers nothing... He's > Fugue
Even fugue T0 on prydwen and sunday is T1000, he's still > Fugue
At least E2S S1 for me, so he can reuinite with Jing Yuan and make their own doujin.
This is real
sunday is a hyper carry support but technically can be a Dual dps support because if summon dps do dmg with there memosprites and them self that is 2 dps in a way lol we will have to see tho
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Robin being able to action advance memosprites moment 😂
I E0S1’d Sunday and I’ll keep 10-pulling each time i get enough, never singles. Aiming for E1. Reasons i pulled him;
1. He makes king yuan and crit lingsha super duper fun.
2. 3.x is gonna be summon meta.
3. Wanted him ever since he was revealed in game story way back when.
Skipping Fugue coz;
1. Hoolay gets permanent weakness hide in 3.1.
2. She isn’t even Firefly’s bis compared to Rappa and Bootycheeks (whom i didn’t pull).
3. She might actually be better for Acheron than she is break teams /j. Use her skill on Aventurine making him debuff every basic (but i already got his E2 so pointless).