Have to say I totally agree with you on this one. I wasn't expecting such an articulate analysis (no pun intended), but you speak a lot of truth. Wonder what your take is on "power bottoms", or if you feel that being "versatile" is kinda like saying you're bisexual...you say it because it sounds less gay and more masculine, and an easier way to label yourself until you're more comfortable admitting it. But yeah, don't miss out on the chance to ride a disco stick. It's awesome.
I find it very interesting that being "feminine" is seen as a bad thing in the gay community. While I do not think being a gay man necessarily makes a a man feminine, I find it interesting that the underlying sexism is still present, despite the fact that both women and gay men have suffered so much discrimination. You would think there might be a little more camaraderie there. So, even if bottoming DID make you more feminine (which it doesn't), who cares? It's not like being a woman is something horrible. To suggest so is sexist.
Yes but I kinda get why. So many gay men are made of for being feminine just because they're gay. They are made fun of in the first place and with how much negative connotation there is with it, it's just seen more as an insult nowadays. But I do agree I wish it wasn't that way.
I don't think its about being feminine at all. A lot of "feminine" gay men aren't actually feminine. . .they are just histrionic. . .and people tend to find that annoying after a while.
I hope your viewers realize how true & important this message is: You got it 100% right! All over UA-cam you see "Top or Bottom" vids - like some vital - all important issue! The real question (Except in the circumstances you so wisely enumerated) should be "Have you TRIED both Top & Bottom?" As - obviously that's the only way you can know whether you prefer one or - like most gay men I've met - go either way, depending on the mood, etc. I knew we subscribed for a good reason, thanks!
As someone who is 100% bottom I get why you say this but I have to respectfully disagree. If a guy likes to top exclusively that's fine it's what he likes. I don't want someone telling me I should top. Iwanna forget that thing is there, no way I want to use it. People have preferences, and that's fine. Just my opinion, still cool video.
This is funny, and you are preaching to the choir. I think it's great that someone is openly talking about these things in a public forum. Thank you for posting this. :)
I am a top. I tried it a few times and it just not for me. But.. I kinda agree with this. I know guys who were tops tried it and now enjoy more with being vers.
This is the first I've, personally, seen this topic addressed, and I'm totally loving ya for it! Subscribed, and new fave channel: you're hilarious and so on point! Thanks for just putting stuff out there.
We need to solve and bring issues to the forefront as a community mr! Looking at you I wouldnt know if you were gay or not, but you courageously put it out there and that is something to be proud of although you do leave yourself vulrenable :). Tackle one issue at a time hey, this top/bottom subject does not deserve this much debate :)
NEVER! NO WAY! Your entitled to your view Wickydkewl, but to say you think every Bi/Gay Male should do that is MAD! People are whatever they are. What your saying is a bit like saying a Female with a Boyfriend or a Husband, should at least once, strap one on and Shag HIM! MADNESS! .... I'm sure some probably do, but in general i think most people are one thing or another, and so it would be impossible, and not to their liking, to do something else. I don't Shag other Lads and Men, and i definitely wouldn't have one Shagging ME! Sorry everyone for tmi, but i'm just stating my own view(s) :^)
***** I wouldn't say their Fetishes. Their not what everyone is into though, anymore than the Guy who says all Bi/Gay Guys should at least Once be a Bottom. That's a load of Shit! I would never have that done to me, that's just the way I feel about it.
Elek Ekberg how is top men bottoming analogous to straight women strapping and fucking straight men?? indeed you make it seem like u are speaking for the women strapping but your actually speaking for that heterosexual men.
Elek Ekberg "most ppl are one thing or other...." by the same token Nazis are nazis, pedophiles are pedophiles and bigots are bigots. If your thoughts and behavious are a product or irrational or immoral beliefs or thinking you do have a moral obligation to correct them when and if possible and one should be open to this...
Thank you for saying something that needed to be said - not the bottoming stuff, though you have a point. I mean your point about how the gay community idolizes masculinity, putting down in subtle and not so subtle ways anything that smacks of "gayness." That has been my bete noire for years, and I've preached it ad nauseam until all my friends are "shut up already." Btw I saw you a few weeks ago at RABBA and I thought about saying "hi" but then it felt like I was stalking you - awkward :)
Hey Dave, I dont know if you know me or my blog, but just wanted to leave a comment and let you know I admire you for this video! Your brave, and I thank you for talking about what everyone else is thinking. Love this video.
Davey, you are like the Yoda of Gaydom (only with much better hair, and better looking, and those eyes....wow). OK, I guess I am just saying you are wise like Yoda and seem to be destined to bring more peace to world of troubling interpersonal relationships. To that I say, "May the Force be with you!".
It's nice to hear you mention the importance of the generation that came before you. Yes, we did make a lot of sacrifices and work for your freedom. We still do. As for this top/bottom thing, what does this attitude say about attitudes toward straight women who have intercourse? Are they considered always "bottoms" and therefore always less powerful than straight men? What hooey! I think there's some sexism in the idea that tops are more macho and more manly than bottoms.
OHH GOSH.. I was watching the NEw Mercedes benz CLA. and i ended here.. Oh well. i am speechless. but i have been laughing so hard.. that TGIF.... DUDE. YOU ARE GREAT AND THE VIDEO IS AMAZING.. keep the work..
This was great! I completely agree with you and I particularly liked when you talked about the notion of masculinity whether in the gay or non-gay community. Cheers!
why would you delete it?! this feels like one of the most real/authentic videos youve ever done, and theres a great message that A LOT of people in the gay community neeeeed to hear
I don't know if daveywavey is you are listening to me (or ever you even read the comments on your videos on youtube) but I felt as if you spoke my mind. This is exactly my point! Every gay, or even bi guys needs to bottom.
Oh god, I've been waiting for someone to make this topic! Personally, either is fine with me, top or bottom. The problem I have with strict tops is that it's intrinsically selfish. That is, you want something ALL of the time. If one is not able to even occasionally take bottom, then clearly that top doesn't love ya enough to be plowing you up the butt, and doesn't deserve it. That's just my take on this matter.
I ABSOLUTELY agree what you say about it! Excellent posting! It's quite schizophrenic in our gay community that most gay men think tops are more manly than bottoms! Hey you "strictly tops" get on the couch!
It sounds like you're speaking from personal experience. If Davey wants to make shirtless vids because he works hard to maintain his sexy body, then it's his right to.
I agree with you. I've seen "straight top" getting really defensive when just mentionning the possibility on maybe, sometimes, in a close to mid future, to express a small desire to try to be bottom once.
First, I used to say that I'm bisexual, just to shorten my gayness and make it as (No I'm not that much gay!! Who said?) .. and then I realise that the most important thing is to be yourself.. Do not change your opinion and your personalty for a person, No body will live for you forever. I started to be honest with myself in few years ago. So I'm totally top and bottom. If someone wants me to be only a bottom, I directly stop having sex and start with a soft sex .. I guess many agree with me
I think this is, so far, out of all the amazing videos you've made, my favorite. I agree 100% with everything you state in this video! it is absolutely not about the sexual part of being top or bottom, but about the feeling that goes along with doing one of both. Eventually I think this can be compared to straight sex and relatioships, where the woman is the "weaker" sex. It's easier to put it in, than to take it in... emotionally that is.
That is crazy though, almost every gay guy I have ever met has either said that they are a bottom, or that they don't enjoy topping. We need more guys to top!
I in no way felt any self consciousness or insecurity. Understand that what bothers you in others is something that YOU have. I know this from my own life- as I became more attuned to who I really am and confident, I stopped feeling so defensive and angry. We are all not Daveys, but we are all beautiful. Your beauty may not be in your pecs, but it could be in the line of your nose or the crinkle of your eyes when you smile. Focus on YOU not Davey (or others).
LMAO! did you stutter... you are so much fun! I was a non bottoming guy for a while, but learned. I still Top80% but sharing is good! Less work on the eyebrows and more bottoming for you!
Davey is not not generalizing or being judgemental, he is simply giving what he believes to be the reason for a cultural stigma towards the "submissive" act of bottoming in sex. He is simply arguing, using the specific example of receiving anal sex, that people should not close themselves off to things without trying. That people should embrace all of life's possibilities; if you try it and don't like it, no harm done, if you do, you've found something new to add more pleasure to your life!
I don't really think that sex is a very childish thing...I mean if you do, I apologize for your childhood. He does what many are afraid to do. I give him props for being so open with something as personal as sexuality.
I have to say that he's right. I'm a straight acting guy and i dont really like to say that i'm more bottom cause theres always this perception that you are less a man. It sucks but we have our pressure too in the gay community
Personally i dont associate myself with the whole "top" or "bottom" stereotypes. your putting a label on yourself by the end of the day and saying this is what role i play in a relationship. Personally i wont date anyone who ask me in the first few months if im a "top" or a "bottom." i think a relationship should be based on love. I dont really care if i have to take it for the team or give it because if i love someone it shouldnt matter because your in love
But even the bottoms I know that absolutely love it say it took them quite a few times to get comfortable enough before they enjoyed it. Judging off of sitting on it once would probably make most of us just think we've made the right decision. #justsayin
This gentleman is a lot nicer than I am. He was trying to say...lots of homophobic GAY men in the world. It has always baffled me how some of the "only top" people like to portray themselves as masculine, when in fact they are afraid of their own feelings and they are SCARED sh*tless about BEING GAY!!!! I find any top who is exclusively TOP period to be weak and not MASCULINE at all. I don't want to bed a guy who acts straight and conforms to the "norms" who hate gays and women.
tried it once a few years back and that was it. i couldn't handle bottoming. i guess doing it in a car wasn't a good place to experience the pleasure you're talking about. >_
So glad for the vid! Being a top is often idolized, this is true but what about bottoms who've never topped? I think that is a bit different. For tops, it's the actual hurt (which by the way, unless you're wide set down there, is going to hurt a little the first time, sorry) but for bottoms it could be something else...what is that fear? I'm not really sure because I identify as versatile so I'm guessing maybe it's that if you're not careful you could cause your partner pain or something worse.
lol "did i stutter?" i've actually came to this conclusion in my head a few times. i think alot of us have. it's good to finally have someone speak up about it though.
I live in place where there isn't a gay community so that doesn't really happen here. I prefer to top but you'll be happy to know I'm perfectly okay with bottoming as well.
Thank you for sharing. It would be nice if men in the community were more open minded and willing to try. Sometimes just being one side comes off as selfish in some respects. I know people have fears or issues about things like this.
Last night, when a young man was sitting on my face... NO, stop, wait... i'd like to rephrase that... Last night, when I was thinking about some serious facts of life...I came to the same conclusion Everyone should have tried it... you can gain so much more by trying than you can loose :-)
Here's the difference: anyone can get buff. You have no room to complain about how his body looks unless the traits that you have are both out of your control and systemically give him more opportunities than you (i.e. if you were black). So if you don't like him for his sexy, muscly body... eat right and go for a run.
There's always a reason for everything. Some justifications are valid, others not. Also, there's a difference between being scared and being a coward, which has everything to do with your justification.
I saw the title and immediately thought "yes, it's about time someone says it." There's way too much labeling when it comes to sexuality and non-gender sexual preference and that applies to Hets as well. I dated a guy who had sex with his best friend in the past. Neither one is gay, they actually prefer women, but they loved eachother and when the urge struck they went with it. No muss, no fuss. Labels just spoil the fun.
I think one of the greatest media supporters of breaking the mold of how men who bottom are perceived is the the US series Shameless. There's a couple in the series: Mickey and Ian. Ian was a strict top who is now okay with both. But Mickey is a strict bottom unless absolutely necessary. What is surprising is, especially based on depicted stereotypical personality types, their preferred labels seem opposite to what you expect. Ian starts out shy and quiet. Mickey is angry and aggressive. So I love that this show not only showed them accepting and enjoying their sexuality but also gave a big middle finger to stereotypical perceptions of homosexual relationships, specifically the seme/uke pairings you see in manga. I also loved how proud Mickey was of his preference. He absolutely loves being the bottom and isn't ashamed of it. He's what you might call a power bottom: he knows what he likes and isn't afraid to get it. In fact, Ian has offered to bottom with Mickey but he refused the offer. And it makes sense that both being a bottom and a top feel good. Liking either/or shouldn't define who you are or make you "less of a man." Just enjoy it!
@erasicTO that's not a good comparison at all. Being able to indentify that you are gay is simply to do with your natural attraction and the type of emotional bonds you form in a relationship. Being a bottom or a top is simply a sexual act, everyone should at least try it once, to simply see if they do like it, or really don't. It is no different than giving or receiving oral in the sense that you can't truthfully say you do or don't like it until you experience it.
The funny thing, for me anyway, is that I'm more afraid of it going the other way around. I'm more scared to try being a top simply because I don't want someone telling me when we're done that I wasn't satisfying enough (read: big enough, girthy enough, etc). It's relatively easy to lay back and be a bottom than it is to take control and be the top. And I'm not calling myself lazy, just insecure about trying it any other way.
@eddiecampbellonline That's actually a very adult and mature thing to ask on a date. It's considerate of the both of you. If you aren't compatible sexually it won't work. You don't go into detail, but it's something you have to address, and it's better to get it out of the way instead of getting so far down the road in caring romantically about someone only to see you aren't cut out to be lovers.
People in general are obsessed with sex, men and women, regardless of their sexual preferences. It's just our nature, to want to have sex, even most of the time, and there is nothing wrong with that. No need to hate the facts about the nature
There was actually a study showing that gay men who are some spectrum of versatile are the most well-adjusted to their own sexuality... not sure where it is but I'm sure you could find it on Google.
yes the insight of talking to an older male or getting to know them will help you..As we are now older we pass the torch on to you to carry it on . as for top of Bottom. I was in a relationship where I was a top for 9 years. Relationship Bitter . Met another and Was a bottom. Now I will not go into a relationship with anyone period Enjoy being alone we have been where your going us older guys so have any questions let me know . use our knowledge , It will make like easier and easier .
There was a trend topic on twitter, that is in spanish, which was "#HueleAPasiva" wich would translate like "#SmellsLikeBottom" which would give an idea of how underestimated the whole being a bottom issue is.
I think all men that identify themselves as tops need to bottom at least once. I am a top and my bf loves that I am. But I think I'm a better top because I know how it feels to be a bottom. It can greatly improve your skills when you know the pain and pleasure you can inflict on another.
i am a submissive bottom and could never Top....
Toomuch hassle
Plus it's uncomfortable unless you lube uo
And there are gay guys who like neither topping nor bottoming.
I'm bottoming right now...
Guys! Guys! I think he might be gay.
OrbitalFilms you got it too late!😂
Orbital34 And he’s so hot
Have to say I totally agree with you on this one. I wasn't expecting such an articulate analysis (no pun intended), but you speak a lot of truth. Wonder what your take is on "power bottoms", or if you feel that being "versatile" is kinda like saying you're bisexual...you say it because it sounds less gay and more masculine, and an easier way to label yourself until you're more comfortable admitting it. But yeah, don't miss out on the chance to ride a disco stick. It's awesome.
I find it very interesting that being "feminine" is seen as a bad thing in the gay community. While I do not think being a gay man necessarily makes a a man feminine, I find it interesting that the underlying sexism is still present, despite the fact that both women and gay men have suffered so much discrimination. You would think there might be a little more camaraderie there. So, even if bottoming DID make you more feminine (which it doesn't), who cares? It's not like being a woman is something horrible. To suggest so is sexist.
Yes but I kinda get why. So many gay men are made of for being feminine just because they're gay. They are made fun of in the first place and with how much negative connotation there is with it, it's just seen more as an insult nowadays. But I do agree I wish it wasn't that way.
I don't think its about being feminine at all. A lot of "feminine" gay men aren't actually feminine. . .they are just histrionic. . .and people tend to find that annoying after a while.
uhm YES. Bottom Pride!
WILLAM
Just like most things, "Don't knock it 'til you try it!"
DAVEY DOES NOT AGE
I hope your viewers realize how true & important this message is: You got it 100%
right! All over UA-cam you see "Top or Bottom" vids - like some vital - all
important issue! The real question (Except in the circumstances you so wisely
enumerated) should be "Have you TRIED both Top & Bottom?" As - obviously
that's the only way you can know whether you prefer one or - like most gay men
I've met - go either way, depending on the mood, etc. I knew we subscribed for
a good reason, thanks!
As someone who is 100% bottom I get why you say this but I have to respectfully disagree. If a guy likes to top exclusively that's fine it's what he likes. I don't want someone telling me I should top. Iwanna forget that thing is there, no way I want to use it. People have preferences, and that's fine. Just my opinion, still cool video.
franson goodwill cause that’s self mutilation essentially...not necessary
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This is funny, and you are preaching to the choir. I think it's great that someone is openly talking about these things in a public forum. Thank you for posting this. :)
Do bisexuals like me need to try bottem?
You are the best story teller! I could watch you for hours! Hysterical and cute!!
Your eyes match the walls
I am a top. I tried it a few times and it just not for me. But.. I kinda agree with this. I know guys who were tops tried it and now enjoy more with being vers.
My straight friends just expect, because i'm a bit more feminine/flamboyant, that I bottom. I mean seriously, I can like both.
This is the first I've, personally, seen this topic addressed, and I'm totally loving ya for it!
Subscribed, and new fave channel: you're hilarious and so on point!
Thanks for just putting stuff out there.
Hi Davey, Can you do a vid on how to be bottom without it being sooo painful?
We need to solve and bring issues to the forefront as a community mr! Looking at you I wouldnt know if you were gay or not, but you courageously put it out there and that is something to be proud of although you do leave yourself vulrenable :). Tackle one issue at a time hey, this top/bottom subject does not deserve this much debate :)
cough* phan *cough
this was really well done :0) sociology and real life mixed up together...props bruh
NEVER! NO WAY! Your entitled to your view Wickydkewl, but to say you think every Bi/Gay Male should do that is MAD! People are whatever they are. What your saying is a bit like saying a Female with a Boyfriend or a Husband, should at least once, strap one on and Shag HIM! MADNESS! .... I'm sure some probably do, but in general i think most people are one thing or another, and so it would be impossible, and not to their liking, to do something else. I don't Shag other Lads and Men, and i definitely wouldn't have one Shagging ME! Sorry everyone for tmi, but i'm just stating my own view(s) :^)
How would you know that?
curby stmary Are you asking me a question or someone else? It helps if you state who your comments to.
***** I wouldn't say their Fetishes. Their not what everyone is into though, anymore than the Guy who says all Bi/Gay Guys should at least Once be a Bottom. That's a load of Shit! I would never have that done to me, that's just the way I feel about it.
Elek Ekberg how is top men bottoming analogous to straight women strapping and fucking straight men?? indeed you make it seem like u are speaking for the women strapping but your actually speaking for that heterosexual men.
Elek Ekberg "most ppl are one thing or other...." by the same token Nazis are nazis, pedophiles are pedophiles and bigots are bigots. If your thoughts and behavious are a product or irrational or immoral beliefs or thinking you do have a moral obligation to correct them when and if possible and one should be open to this...
Thank you for saying something that needed to be said - not the bottoming stuff, though you have a point. I mean your point about how the gay community idolizes masculinity, putting down in subtle and not so subtle ways anything that smacks of "gayness." That has been my bete noire for years, and I've preached it ad nauseam until all my friends are "shut up already." Btw I saw you a few weeks ago at RABBA and I thought about saying "hi" but then it felt like I was stalking you - awkward :)
Davey you have beautiful eyes
Hey Dave, I dont know if you know me or my blog, but just wanted to leave a comment and let you know I admire you for this video! Your brave, and I thank you for talking about what everyone else is thinking. Love this video.
I think it needs to be said that your interior design skills are peerless. fabulous.
Davey, you are like the Yoda of Gaydom (only with much better hair, and better looking, and those eyes....wow). OK, I guess I am just saying you are wise like Yoda and seem to be destined to bring more peace to world of troubling interpersonal relationships. To that I say, "May the Force be with you!".
I loved this video! It was soo informative! You should post more like this one
It's nice to hear you mention the importance of the generation that came before you. Yes, we did make a lot of sacrifices and work for your freedom. We still do. As for this top/bottom thing, what does this attitude say about attitudes toward straight women who have intercourse? Are they considered always "bottoms" and therefore always less powerful than straight men? What hooey! I think there's some sexism in the idea that tops are more macho and more manly than bottoms.
OHH GOSH.. I was watching the NEw Mercedes benz CLA. and i ended here.. Oh well. i am speechless. but i have been laughing so hard.. that TGIF.... DUDE. YOU ARE GREAT AND THE VIDEO IS AMAZING.. keep the work..
This was a pretty courageous video, and a good topic to talk about within the gay community (and, really, out of it).
This was great! I completely agree with you and I particularly liked when you talked about the notion of masculinity whether in the gay or non-gay community. Cheers!
When I saw the title, I didn't think you were actually going to talk about this, but you did!!!
why would you delete it?! this feels like one of the most real/authentic videos youve ever done, and theres a great message that A LOT of people in the gay community neeeeed to hear
kyleoban DO you want a good boyfriend
I don't know if daveywavey is you are listening to me (or ever you even read the comments on your videos on youtube) but I felt as if you spoke my mind.
This is exactly my point!
Every gay, or even bi guys needs to bottom.
I totally didn't think about the idolization of tops in the LGBT community. Thank you for this liberating vid :D VERSATILE FTW!
LOL @ the ad on the side for "Christian Mingle" while I'm watching this vid...
Well said. Also, ever noticed that the 'strict top' is always the same personality type? Proves the point.
Great series, Davy Wavy!!
I love your point of view...but not only that you supported very convincing evidence and had good logic :)
Hi
A really well thought-out video. I hope it inspires people to push boundaries and challenge stereotypes both inside and outside the realm of gay sex!
Oh god, I've been waiting for someone to make this topic!
Personally, either is fine with me, top or bottom. The problem I have with strict tops is that it's intrinsically selfish. That is, you want something ALL of the time.
If one is not able to even occasionally take bottom, then clearly that top doesn't love ya enough to be plowing you up the butt, and doesn't deserve it. That's just my take on this matter.
I ABSOLUTELY agree what you say about it! Excellent posting! It's quite schizophrenic in our gay community that most gay men think tops are more manly than bottoms!
Hey you "strictly tops" get on the couch!
It sounds like you're speaking from personal experience. If Davey wants to make shirtless vids because he works hard to maintain his sexy body, then it's his right to.
I agree with you. I've seen "straight top" getting really defensive when just mentionning the possibility on maybe, sometimes, in a close to mid future, to express a small desire to try to be bottom once.
First, I used to say that I'm bisexual, just to shorten my gayness and make it as (No I'm not that much gay!! Who said?) .. and then I realise that the most important thing is to be yourself.. Do not change your opinion and your personalty for a person, No body will live for you forever.
I started to be honest with myself in few years ago. So I'm totally top and bottom. If someone wants me to be only a bottom, I directly stop having sex and start with a soft sex .. I guess many agree with me
I think this is, so far, out of all the amazing videos you've made, my favorite. I agree 100% with everything you state in this video! it is absolutely not about the sexual part of being top or bottom, but about the feeling that goes along with doing one of both. Eventually I think this can be compared to straight sex and relatioships, where the woman is the "weaker" sex. It's easier to put it in, than to take it in... emotionally that is.
i actually think you may be right about this one. you're doing good work here. keep it up. :)
That is crazy though, almost every gay guy I have ever met has either said that they are a bottom, or that they don't enjoy topping. We need more guys to top!
Dude you should have a show on either Logo or Bravo. Love your videos and it never hurts to be fun and hot!
I in no way felt any self consciousness or insecurity. Understand that what bothers you in others is something that YOU have. I know this from my own life- as I became more attuned to who I really am and confident, I stopped feeling so defensive and angry. We are all not Daveys, but we are all beautiful. Your beauty may not be in your pecs, but it could be in the line of your nose or the crinkle of your eyes when you smile. Focus on YOU not Davey (or others).
LMAO! did you stutter... you are so much fun! I was a non bottoming guy for a while, but learned. I still Top80% but sharing is good! Less work on the eyebrows and more bottoming for you!
I appreciate youtube for having this as a related video to David Letterman. I am scarred for life. Thanks.
Davey is not not generalizing or being judgemental, he is simply giving what he believes to be the reason for a cultural stigma towards the "submissive" act of bottoming in sex. He is simply arguing, using the specific example of receiving anal sex, that people should not close themselves off to things without trying. That people should embrace all of life's possibilities; if you try it and don't like it, no harm done, if you do, you've found something new to add more pleasure to your life!
I don't really think that sex is a very childish thing...I mean if you do, I apologize for your childhood. He does what many are afraid to do. I give him props for being so open with something as personal as sexuality.
I have to say that he's right. I'm a straight acting guy and i dont really like to say that i'm more bottom cause theres always this perception that you are less a man. It sucks but we have our pressure too in the gay community
it hurts man! anyways, are you using a new filmage? the video looks actually good. oh davey wavey!
I don't think I'm gay neither am I a man..but your videos are really entertaining and educational !
completely agree...every gay man should atleast ONCE, so he knows if he's open to it or not
Personally i dont associate myself with the whole "top" or "bottom" stereotypes.
your putting a label on yourself by the end of the day and saying this is what role i play in a relationship.
Personally i wont date anyone who ask me in the first few months if im a "top" or a "bottom." i think a relationship should be based on love. I dont really care if i have to take it for the team or give it because if i love someone it shouldnt matter because your in love
But even the bottoms I know that absolutely love it say it took them quite a few times to get comfortable enough before they enjoyed it. Judging off of sitting on it once would probably make most of us just think we've made the right decision. #justsayin
"So Sit On That, Peace Out". That comment was just awesome.
Christ, im glad it's you and not me makin this movie, greatly awkward :)
Willam! Just watched the video, about 10 times for your new hit single "This boy is a bottom" and came here to totally agree!
Whether it's straight or gay sex, it shouldn't hurt, not even the first time if you do it right. If it hurts you need to slow down.
Davey I love you for this visdeo U so much serious on the subject and hell no you didnt stutter at all and thats the #1 reason I love the video !!!!!
This gentleman is a lot nicer than I am. He was trying to say...lots of homophobic GAY men in the world. It has always baffled me how some of the "only top" people like to portray themselves as masculine, when in fact they are afraid of their own feelings and they are SCARED sh*tless about BEING GAY!!!! I find any top who is exclusively TOP period to be weak and not MASCULINE at all. I don't want to bed a guy who acts straight and conforms to the "norms" who hate gays and women.
tried it once a few years back and that was it. i couldn't handle bottoming. i guess doing it in a car wasn't a good place to experience the pleasure you're talking about. >_
So glad for the vid! Being a top is often idolized, this is true but what about bottoms who've never topped? I think that is a bit different. For tops, it's the actual hurt (which by the way, unless you're wide set down there, is going to hurt a little the first time, sorry) but for bottoms it could be something else...what is that fear? I'm not really sure because I identify as versatile so I'm guessing maybe it's that if you're not careful you could cause your partner pain or something worse.
lol "did i stutter?"
i've actually came to this conclusion in my head a few times. i think alot of us have. it's good to finally have someone speak up about it though.
Oooh, I LOVE that paint color!
Why doesn't anyone talk about being versatile (doing both)? It's not even nice to choose only ONE thing.
I live in place where there isn't a gay community so that doesn't really happen here. I prefer to top but you'll be happy to know I'm perfectly okay with bottoming as well.
"did i studder" ahahaha you're adorable
Thank you for sharing. It would be nice if men in the community were more open minded and willing to try. Sometimes just being one side comes off as selfish in some respects. I know people have fears or issues about things like this.
Last night, when a young man was sitting on my face... NO, stop, wait... i'd like to rephrase that...
Last night, when I was thinking about some serious facts of life...I came to the same conclusion
Everyone should have tried it... you can gain so much more by trying than you can loose :-)
Here's the difference: anyone can get buff. You have no room to complain about how his body looks unless the traits that you have are both out of your control and systemically give him more opportunities than you (i.e. if you were black).
So if you don't like him for his sexy, muscly body... eat right and go for a run.
There's always a reason for everything. Some justifications are valid, others not.
Also, there's a difference between being scared and being a coward, which has everything to do with your justification.
Wow Davey.. very well said.. I believe as gay couples they need to be both to get the best love making experience towards a lasting relationship. :)
I saw the title and immediately thought "yes, it's about time someone says it." There's way too much labeling when it comes to sexuality and non-gender sexual preference and that applies to Hets as well.
I dated a guy who had sex with his best friend in the past. Neither one is gay, they actually prefer women, but they loved eachother and when the urge struck they went with it. No muss, no fuss.
Labels just spoil the fun.
I think one of the greatest media supporters of breaking the mold of how men who bottom are perceived is the the US series Shameless. There's a couple in the series: Mickey and Ian. Ian was a strict top who is now okay with both. But Mickey is a strict bottom unless absolutely necessary. What is surprising is, especially based on depicted stereotypical personality types, their preferred labels seem opposite to what you expect. Ian starts out shy and quiet. Mickey is angry and aggressive. So I love that this show not only showed them accepting and enjoying their sexuality but also gave a big middle finger to stereotypical perceptions of homosexual relationships, specifically the seme/uke pairings you see in manga. I also loved how proud Mickey was of his preference. He absolutely loves being the bottom and isn't ashamed of it. He's what you might call a power bottom: he knows what he likes and isn't afraid to get it. In fact, Ian has offered to bottom with Mickey but he refused the offer. And it makes sense that both being a bottom and a top feel good. Liking either/or shouldn't define who you are or make you "less of a man." Just enjoy it!
@erasicTO that's not a good comparison at all. Being able to indentify that you are gay is simply to do with your natural attraction and the type of emotional bonds you form in a relationship. Being a bottom or a top is simply a sexual act, everyone should at least try it once, to simply see if they do like it, or really don't. It is no different than giving or receiving oral in the sense that you can't truthfully say you do or don't like it until you experience it.
Nice of you to to share GOOD SENSE,D-W,Thanks!
Best video yet Davey :-)
The funny thing, for me anyway, is that I'm more afraid of it going the other way around. I'm more scared to try being a top simply because I don't want someone telling me when we're done that I wasn't satisfying enough (read: big enough, girthy enough, etc). It's relatively easy to lay back and be a bottom than it is to take control and be the top. And I'm not calling myself lazy, just insecure about trying it any other way.
Why can't I thumb up this more than once xD?!?! It was freaking hilarous
I'm gonna be damn honest - I'm downright scared of being a bottom because it sounds like it hurts. A lot.
Loved the Christian Mingle ad that popped up... they've got this whole demographic thing down pat!
@eddiecampbellonline That's actually a very adult and mature thing to ask on a date. It's considerate of the both of you. If you aren't compatible sexually it won't work. You don't go into detail, but it's something you have to address, and it's better to get it out of the way instead of getting so far down the road in caring romantically about someone only to see you aren't cut out to be lovers.
Davey! i could not aggree with you more!. if they just try it they will find out! total thumbs up! great video!
your plant is dying yes... I was too distracted by your plant. Wait, what did you say?
People in general are obsessed with sex, men and women, regardless of their sexual preferences. It's just our nature, to want to have sex, even most of the time, and there is nothing wrong with that. No need to hate the facts about the nature
lol you need to come to Spokane and do work on these strict tops livin' in a world of tops
I love your insights, davey!
There was actually a study showing that gay men who are some spectrum of versatile are the most well-adjusted to their own sexuality... not sure where it is but I'm sure you could find it on Google.
yes the insight of talking to an older male or getting to know them will help you..As we are now older we pass the torch on to you to carry it on . as for top of Bottom. I was in a relationship where I was a top for 9 years. Relationship Bitter . Met another and Was a bottom. Now I will not go into a relationship with anyone period Enjoy being alone we have been where your going us older guys so have any questions let me know . use our knowledge , It will make like easier and easier .
There was a trend topic on twitter, that is in spanish, which was "#HueleAPasiva" wich would translate like "#SmellsLikeBottom" which would give an idea of how underestimated the whole being a bottom issue is.
I think all men that identify themselves as tops need to bottom at least once. I am a top and my bf loves that I am. But I think I'm a better top because I know how it feels to be a bottom. It can greatly improve your skills when you know the pain and pleasure you can inflict on another.
I think like this and i'm a teenager. I much prefer hugging, holding hands, shopping and kissing together. I'm for all things Gay and Adorable.