Thanks for your work and test results. Any open flames indoors need precaution, even candels. I got the luxury of a kitchen wood stove for cooking and heating. I did this because butane, propane, alcohol will end. I do not prep for a short time emergency but for a long hard time. Hugs from Germany
They are illegal in Colorado unless you live at 7000ft in elevation or above. We just moved down to 6900 ft and I hate not being able to have a wood stove or fireplace. I’ve never had this problem before.
Thank you for sharing this information! One point I would like to make is that the best and fastest way to boil water, or heat anything is to put a lid on the pot or pan you are using. It will conserve some of the fuel your expending. just saying.... waste not a bit of what you've stored up if you can help it.
"you completely failed at preparing." Nice. I am definitely stocking more propane tanks and sterno cans than empty tuna cans and cardboard rolls. Of course my Sterno cans aren't looking so great now...
Thanks for taking the time to do this. I always wondered how the different methods compared. A couple of options I'd like to see are propane, kerosene, and white gas. Propane because, well, camp stoves and there are versions of those butane stoves that can run on propane too. White gas because old Coleman 425 white gas stoves are constantly showing up for next to nothing at thrift shops. And they can burn unleaded gasoline in a pinch. And kerosene because there are people claiming that you can cook on top of a kerosene heater.
buddy burners are also an option so long as you got enough oxygen i got zero smoke from mine. crumpled packing paper (that big brown stuff in packages for cushioning) and candle wax in an old cookie tin for the large one, and a small one with strips of cardboard coiled in an altoids tin then wax poured in. the big one i was able to use large pans and boiling a big pot fast. the small altoids one took a while to boil a small camp pot say 3-4 cups of water but still works, though that one is for my bug out emergency bag. big one is for when power goes out since i got crappy electric stove.
Thanks for doing the leg work for us again. Definitely a viable option and super convenient for those power outages. It’ll definitely buy you some time in case the power doesn’t come back on soon. I’ve been using the isobutane/propane as a backup which works about the same. Thanks again.
I think with the Gas One, it comes with a propane attachment so you can use either (at least mine did). Please don't heat anything in a can. Cans have a plastic lining. It's best to use the contents, then burn it in a fire before use. Then you can DIY a pot. Thank you for your information. I found it quite helpful and I realize that it took effort and money to produce.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the stuff in cans is heated to create the seal on the cans so if the plastic was a problem it has already tainted the food. The best way to heat cans is to put them in a pan of water.
Today is 10/1/2024 - a scary day as the Middle East is on fire! I’m thinking real long term of how to survive if we get into WW3! I just subscribed after watching this very informative video. I spent a long time today on Amazon trying to figure out a way to cook inside. I’m a senior living alone and a year ago bought a very small outdoor grill and 2 sacks of charcoal in case of emergency. ( Not used the grill yet.) I live in a townhouse so I could cook outside, unlike those in apartments. May buy more charcoal or maybe one of the indoor cooking ways you so patiently went through. Thank you for your help in this area! I will look for more of your videos. 😊
I have a butane burner in my converted camper van and used it for several years exclusively. I now use an induction cooker on solar for much of my cooking, but still use the butane burner when I want to cook outside or when I want to bake something (using an Omnia oven). The butane burner was around $20 and it has been flawless. When I exclusively used it a can of butane would last me over two weeks. They are great gadgets.
Sterno has a version call Sterno Camp. It has a wick and burns longer and hotter than the Sterno Heat cans you have. It boils water in the same amount of time as the alcohol stoves. Thanks for all the info and the testing. I'll look into one of the butane stoves now because of this. Take Care and Stay Safe.
Sterno is actually designed for use to maintain heat on like buffet lines and not to burn hot enough to really be good to bring things to a boil. You can use calcium acetate (or home make it using egg shells and vinegar) and alcohol to make your own gelled fuel that will not burn as hot as straight alcohol and is actually better for slower cooking than straight alcohol. Something as simple as an Altoids tin can be used for a stove with a pot or cup stand but the fancy feast cat food cans work well to boil water or other task and no separate pot stand is needed. An Altoids tin with either Perlite or carbon fiber used as a wicking material with a screen on top of it actually makes the Alcohol burners safer as it the cooker gets turned over you do not have the alcohol spreading like in an Alcohol burner with just Alcohol in it and no wicking media. Another nice thing about alcohol is the number of different products that can be a fuel source and the ability to source these things from pharmacies, grocery stores, ABC stores, big box stores, auto parts stores and home improvement stores. Even most convenience stores/truck stops will sell HEET gas line anti freeze which is one of the top choices by many for fuel . Add in an alcohol burner can be made easily out of everyday items easy to find just about anywhere and really overall this makes it really a top contender for the best. Of course in a real long term SHTF situation wood is going to be the longest available fuel source for most people.
If you have a solar generator they will run your microwave quite easily. Heating a cup of coffee or a can of soup takes 2-3 minutes each. They do make up to 600w folding solar panels for that quick charge you'll need. They make a small 2 burner stove with an oven for those of us that hot homemade pizza gives surviving a purpose. Thanks for the video sir.
7 months later.... thoughts on the fire extinguishers, those need to be replaced at some point as they run out of charge, however a FIRE BLANKET does NOT have an Expiration, and they are pretty inexpensive, easy to have several around your home.
@@limitedaxcess yes I have seen that add where the firemen puts out the BBQ with the fire blanket ! Hua Hua just shut lid on the BBQ ! The same thing goes for your kitchen stove just put a lid on the burning pan ! The same thing we were tough in 1950s grade school !
I have several ways to cook inside and outside. I love my instafire stove/space heater. It has a fan that is placed on the cooking grate that is heat activated. I have 2. Coleman stove, 6hr tea light candles (put 7-10 in a circle and cook like you would on a gas stove. I put in a frying pan and placed a grate over them. I have power stations and 2 burner stove, but won't waste the power. I have a rocket stove and charcoal grill.
I live in an old persons condo in Florida. When the hurricanes came through, and the power died I really wanted to have a cup of espresso coffee and some hot water for backup so I used a BLUETTI EB3A and I used a Kelina Portable Travel Electric Kettle 400ML Small Hot Water Boiler with LCD Display,Mini Heater for Boiling Water, Tea Coffee Kettle with 4 Temperature Settings,Gray. (taken from the description on Amazon Amazon) I get no kickback. It took about 12% of the battery power to heat it up to 202°. What water I didn’t use I put into a Stanley classic vacuum insulated wide mouth bottle which kept the water hot for 20 hours.(above 150). I kept the batteries as a dedicated food battery and I have solar to recharge it. It was quiet and effective. I have other methods of cooking outside and I did try the alcohol stove initially. With absolutely none of the conditions you said except for the fire extinguisher. It threw out so much soot that it lasted for about one minute and I snuffed it out. So soot is a factor when you’re using the alcohol stove. I like the channel. It’s got good information. Appreciate it.
I like the small gas stove, but have a range of options for short and longer term alternatives. Kerosene camping stoves would be a longer term option- but needs good ventilation.
Guys. The video was for cooking indoors in an emergency. That implies short term. And unless you have an airtight stove, wood and especially charcoal, are too dangerous to use indoors.
Thank you for doing this. I've been decision paralyzed, trying to figure out what I should use since I'm on a limited budget. Going to go with the Japanese one, due to the quality and effectiveness.
I buy a 4 pack of butane cartridges at Sam’s Club for about $8.65. I’ve read online several places that Asian food markets sell them for about $1 per can. I haven’t ventured out to verify that yet but plan to.
Butane is the hottest burning fuel and is not suggested for indoor use, but it cooks so fast that if you have enough ventilation for fresh air you will be okay if you get the job done quick. It will boil water fast if you want to make instant tea or coffee, or a quick hot sandwich or for heating canned food.
I havent watched the whole video yet so i dont know if he covered this, but I wanted to mention this before I forgot. If you can, please buy the butane canisters with safety valves (they have blue indicators on the valves). This will prevent a deadly explosion if a butane stove is used incorrectly. Please UA-cam 'butane camp stove explosion' to be aware of how deadly this explosion can be. The explosions can happen when using canisters without safety valves. What happens is that a user uses an oversized pan or pot. This causes the heat from the burner to spread toward the butane canister and overheats the canister resulting in an explosion. If using a butane canister without a safety valve, make double sure to use an appropriate sized pan (not too large) and/or keep the pan from hanging over the canister section. Otherwise these are outstanding cooking devices.
I cook and bbq in my fireplace during rainy days. I have a home made alcohol stove and can get water to boil in about 12 minutes, however i use a tuna fish can filled with perlite. The perlite helps the denatured alcohol last longer. I dont use rubbing alcohol because it smokes, where denatured alcohol doesn't. Old school Sterno GEL does get hot. If it has a wick, i avoid it! Nice video!
We have a propane coleman dual burner camp stove. To support this, we have three 7 gallon propane tanks and five 5 gallon tanks. I've done the actual real math, and with those, we could cook twice a day, unhurriedly, for 4-5 months no problem, not that I'd want to...lol
I happened to have a different stove that you do not mention probably because it's relatively new in my area it's a butane one but it works differently and it is also meant for indoors it looks like a gas cooker with a line and yes it does the job fairly well there are some cons to it which it won't get into but yeah there are plenty of cookers out there not all of them are Coleman but some of them come close to the Coleman version.
A big thanks for reminding me about fire safety. Do you think an induction cooktop instead of that hot plate would have still knocked electricity out of the running? Those things heat much faster than anything you tested and draw less juice. How much less is key, I suppose. As for boiling water fast, test an electric kettle if you want your mind blown. It might be a good idea to think about ways to generate more electricity when outside help isn’t coming soon.
For the soup can over stereo method, I suppose that you could use it in a pinch, but please remember that many brands of soup are canned in a plastic-lined container, which might melt over direct flame
I do have all of the different bushcraft/camping stoves but I’m going to eat as simply as possible….Eat peanut butter and jelly…problem solved …I also have a woodstove…so in the Season that would be my go to
By the orange flame, it was obvious that the alcohol and canned heat stoves were not burning efficiently or as hot. You need to try a design that separates the vapor into jets (like the propane stoves). This will facilitate better fuel-oxygen mixture to create a blue flame.
What a way to find out the detector is broken 😅 Jk. I love my little butane stove. I have 2 older 2 burner colemans as well but making everything in one pot is more efficient. Soups, stews, breads, even meat. When Irma hit us we were out for 5 days and we used canned heat, the butane stove, and outside we made a 16 brick rocket stove. Except for the AC and fridge we really didn't miss the power much. We had set up a solar shower over a bath tub to do laundry. I allowed 5 pieces of clothing at a time. You aren't going anywhere anyway lol. All lightweight stuff that washes and dries fast and easy. We had another solar shower set up for taking showers. I took it inside and used it in the shower stall but the guys just stayed outside. It was not bad at all. Lots of small fans and power stations with solar.
My idea of cooking in an emergency is heating up water for more of a meal you would use backpacking and rehydrate or heating water or soups so for me the little small single burner foldup backpacking burners that use the isobutane fuel cannisters. Fairly inexpensive, easy on fuel and fuel cannisters are easy to source even from Walmart. These are easy to keep for apartment dwellers that keeping larger cans of propane would not really be possible and easily packed and carried in case of needing to leave for a better or safer location.
Aloha hugs 🤗 my Candle Cardboard Can boil water in 1 minute each has 72 hour burn I prep a years worth 3 in Ziploc bag I found a better price mark for Wax make my wicks with Boxar and salt I us #10 can to cook on and then a pineaple juice can to extinguish the fire will not blow out best. Cost
First time seeing the Vesta. I would never use canned heat, but I have a Trangia alcohol burner and cheap Coghlan's "cube stove" that knocks down flat (handy for austere camping, but flimsy). From the looks of the Vesta tray, I don't see any reason I couldn't stick a trangia or two in the Vesta tray and get the sturdy grated surface (or airflow with the top unit). Since you have a Vesta in hand, I was wondering if there was any reason you could see that you couldn't substitute small alc burners instead of those weaksauce cans? I'm not trying to survive long term with it, but Trangia and denatured fuel is to have something on hand for cooking in case of a short term power outage that doesn't involve "scary" (at least to spouses) ;) pressurized canister fuel. Been considering a DIY stove, but Vesta looks nicely made.
I may test that in the future. I'm sure it would work better for cooking than canned heat, but I'm not sure the thermal fan is rated for that. It's something I need to look into though. Thanks.
@@TheBugOutLocation Yeah, I was measuring out can height, spirit burner height, and thinking about flame height. At least if you put the sliding covers on each of the spirit burners you could close them some to adjust the flames. Since posting the comment earlier, I've just been thinking about a cheap $20 13x13 grille grate over a $35 Vollrath 6 inch deep stainless steel Half Pan. DIY to drill a few holes in the short sides of the food pan for air intake...about half the price of getting a Vesta. Too many options, but thanks for the video confirming canned heat is just not up to the task of what I'm looking for.
Love your logical approach my friend. Just one question - is that how Americans pronounce 'denatured' as if it had two 'n' sounds, so 'deNNatured'? I learnt it as 'dee-natured', like 'dee-activated' or 'dee-constructed' where the 'de' parts means 'no longer' like 'no longer natural', 'no longer activated' and 'no longer constructed'. I guess we say that because the 'dee-naturing' process is about making the alcohol undrinkable by adding chemicals.
The red camp Alcohol stove has two different sized holes for jets. I have two of them, one I opened the smaller holes to the same size as the larger holes. It burns much cleaner and more efficiently now.
In an emergency situation, fuel conservation is more important than fast boiling water, so it's much more important to run gas stoves on the much more efficient low setting. 15 minutes to wait for a boil is fine if you can get 2x the number of boils out of one can. Save being in a hurry for when you know when you will no longer need it.
Your gas one is not too dissimilar to the ones that I use and yes I use them indoors because I do not have any other means of using it not that I don't have electricity but that my electric stove top was damaged when we were moving and I couldn't afford a new one.
I have a question. I know this video is about cooking and is old i just need help with this, we just moved into our house and we have a wood burning stove in basement how do we know if it works? Do i need to have someome come inspect if so who? Lol thank u
Major fan of alcohol stoves for indoors under SHTF. Many people like HEET, a gas additive available anywhere they sell car stuff (Walmart, gas stations, etc.) Get the stuff in the yellow 12 oz. bottle. MSDS says it is 100% methanol and .00006% proprietary other stuff. That is more than 100%, but that is what it said. Technically methanol will burn to yield water (H2O) and carbon Dioxide (CO2), the stuff you exhale. Still, open a window.
You got the very high BTU stoves you are burning a lot of butane ! Get the 6500 BTU stoves it is all about energy management ! I loaned my Brother my Honda generator he was running the generator 24 /7 I tried to tell him just run the generator 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the evening to and do not open the refrigerator door 😂😢 I am into the energy management 😊😊
I think if you get a butane stove you should always get one that can take a propane connection as well. I also wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. Better to have 2 or even 3 ways to cook food and keep warm. The biggest problem for people is space to store it all.
I have different options, with canister, gas bottles, electric, tee lights, but nothing for wood. We live in the UK. Survival skills are lacking badly here. If you try to build a pantry, people see it as being selfish and you wiping out the store, even if the store is full after you left. Basically they believe that shortage will happen just because you are building a pantry for you and your family.
I am NOT sure about sitting the CAN of FOOD on the flame??? Isn't there something in the can make-up that could be hazardous to people's health? I don't remember exactly what it is about the cans? Maybe some kind of INSIDE LINING????
It’s a CO monitor. Not a CO2 monitor. CO2 is carbon dioxide. The stuff you breathe out. Mono means one. Di means two. Therefore carbon monoxide is one carbon and one oxygen. Written as CO. Carbon dioxide is one carbon and 2 oxygens. CO2. You should’ve learnt that in basic science class. If you’re trying to teach others, you really should know the basics. Otherwise the not so smart ones will be searching Amazon for a carbon dioxide monitor.
Those Butane stoves are great in the warm weather. But if you have a complete power outage, (gas and Hydro) your house will be cold in the Winter and the Butane will not vapourize. Therefore no cooking!😮
Since you mention fire extinguishers, having a few on hand may buy one some time in the event the zombies outside tries to smoke you out of your castle.
Don't you feel that the VISTA heater costs too much to use. With 3 cans costing about $10-$12 that is a lot for heat. Comments? Plus it only heats up to about 10 degrees warmer is what I read.
if you are looking for a heat source. and a wood stove is not a option. I very strongly suggest a Chinese Diesel heater and good 12 volt battery. ( I have a computer power supply connected) when a power outage happens I have a switch that changes to 12 volt battery. I get 3 days run on 12 volt battery. 5 gallons of diesel last 4 days. if you can get used veg. oil. strain it and you can mix veg. oil and diesel 50/50 with no problems. You will have a exhaust pipe to deal with. a buddy heater sucks the propane . a kerosene heater would be a good 2nd choice
I have several and none of them take that long to boil 2 cups of water. Curious which Alcohol stoves you have. I have a Simon I’ve used for over 30 years, a ceramic one was for a fondue set and several homemade ones plus a Trangia.
@@akbychoice One is a Pathfinder stove. I can’t remember what the other one was. I suspect I was doing something wrong cuz everyone else speaks highly of alcohol stoves. Do I need to fill them up all the way?
First of all some of the things that you are talking about are okay if you can afford them a lot of them are expensive maybe not so much to Americans but anyone who does not currently live in the United States, and some of the items are not available everywhere.
Thanks for your work and test results. Any open flames indoors need precaution, even candels.
I got the luxury of a kitchen wood stove for cooking and heating. I did this because butane, propane, alcohol will end.
I do not prep for a short time emergency but for a long hard time.
Hugs from Germany
Wood stoves are fantastic!
@@TheBugOutLocation😂 and in California, USA 🇺🇸 they're now illegal 😳 😢
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They are illegal in Colorado unless you live at 7000ft in elevation or above. We just moved down to 6900 ft and I hate not being able to have a wood stove or fireplace. I’ve never had this problem before.
I would love a wood burning stove!
Thank you for sharing this information! One point I would like to make is that the best and fastest way to boil water, or heat anything is to put a lid on the pot or pan you are using. It will conserve some of the fuel your expending. just saying.... waste not a bit of what you've stored up if you can help it.
Thank you for sharing these test results
Thanks. It's fun to do videos like this.
"you completely failed at preparing." Nice. I am definitely stocking more propane tanks and sterno cans than empty tuna cans and cardboard rolls. Of course my Sterno cans aren't looking so great now...
Right. Nothing wrong with those, but just like a Bic lighter vs Ferro rod, use what works first.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. I always wondered how the different methods compared. A couple of options I'd like to see are propane, kerosene, and white gas. Propane because, well, camp stoves and there are versions of those butane stoves that can run on propane too. White gas because old Coleman 425 white gas stoves are constantly showing up for next to nothing at thrift shops. And they can burn unleaded gasoline in a pinch. And kerosene because there are people claiming that you can cook on top of a kerosene heater.
I think I might do that on my next round of tests. Thanks!
You can cook on top of a kerosene heater, I grew up on it.
I cooked eggs on one, also heated up canned food.
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If you're using a tuna can stove, then you didn't prepare!! I LOVE THAT STATEMENT ❗️❗️❗️😊👍
buddy burners are also an option so long as you got enough oxygen i got zero smoke from mine. crumpled packing paper (that big brown stuff in packages for cushioning) and candle wax in an old cookie tin for the large one, and a small one with strips of cardboard coiled in an altoids tin then wax poured in. the big one i was able to use large pans and boiling a big pot fast. the small altoids one took a while to boil a small camp pot say 3-4 cups of water but still works, though that one is for my bug out emergency bag. big one is for when power goes out since i got crappy electric stove.
Love my single tea light fondue kit heats soup like a champ in a fix
I have 2 fondue pots from the '70s. Fun and retro! I have the forks, still in their original boxes, and the recipe books!
Thanks for doing the leg work for us again. Definitely a viable option and super convenient for those power outages. It’ll definitely buy you some time in case the power doesn’t come back on soon. I’ve been using the isobutane/propane as a backup which works about the same. Thanks again.
I thought about getting one of those duel fuel GasOne's. I still might
I think with the Gas One, it comes with a propane attachment so you can use either (at least mine did). Please don't heat anything in a can. Cans have a plastic lining. It's best to use the contents, then burn it in a fire before use. Then you can DIY a pot. Thank you for your information. I found it quite helpful and I realize that it took effort and money to produce.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the stuff in cans is heated to create the seal on the cans so if the plastic was a problem it has already tainted the food. The best way to heat cans is to put them in a pan of water.
Thanks again for info. Learning.
Today is 10/1/2024 - a scary day as the Middle East is on fire! I’m thinking real long term of how to survive if we get into WW3! I just subscribed after watching this very informative video. I spent a long time today on Amazon trying to figure out a way to cook inside. I’m a senior living alone and a year ago bought a very small outdoor grill and 2 sacks of charcoal in case of emergency. ( Not used the grill yet.) I live in a townhouse so I could cook outside, unlike those in apartments. May buy more charcoal or maybe one of the indoor cooking ways you so patiently went through. Thank you for your help in this area! I will look for more of your videos. 😊
I have a butane burner in my converted camper van and used it for several years exclusively. I now use an induction cooker on solar for much of my cooking, but still use the butane burner when I want to cook outside or when I want to bake something (using an Omnia oven). The butane burner was around $20 and it has been flawless. When I exclusively used it a can of butane would last me over two weeks. They are great gadgets.
Sterno has a version call Sterno Camp. It has a wick and burns longer and hotter than the Sterno Heat cans you have. It boils water in the same amount of time as the alcohol stoves.
Thanks for all the info and the testing. I'll look into one of the butane stoves now because of this. Take Care and Stay Safe.
Sterno is actually designed for use to maintain heat on like buffet lines and not to burn hot enough to really be good to bring things to a boil.
You can use calcium acetate (or home make it using egg shells and vinegar) and alcohol to make your own gelled fuel that will not burn as hot as straight alcohol and is actually better for slower cooking than straight alcohol.
Something as simple as an Altoids tin can be used for a stove with a pot or cup stand but the fancy feast cat food cans work well to boil water or other task and no separate pot stand is needed.
An Altoids tin with either Perlite or carbon fiber used as a wicking material with a screen on top of it actually makes the Alcohol burners safer as it the cooker gets turned over you do not have the alcohol spreading like in an Alcohol burner with just Alcohol in it and no wicking media.
Another nice thing about alcohol is the number of different products that can be a fuel source and the ability to source these things from pharmacies, grocery stores, ABC stores, big box stores, auto parts stores and home improvement stores.
Even most convenience stores/truck stops will sell HEET gas line anti freeze which is one of the top choices by many for fuel .
Add in an alcohol burner can be made easily out of everyday items easy to find just about anywhere and really overall this makes it really a top contender for the best.
Of course in a real long term SHTF situation wood is going to be the longest available fuel source for most people.
During my last power outage, I used my Coleman stove so my husband could get his coffee. I did open the kitchen window to ensure ventilation.
If you have a solar generator they will run your microwave quite easily. Heating a cup of coffee or a can of soup takes 2-3 minutes each. They do make up to 600w folding solar panels for that quick charge you'll need. They make a small 2 burner stove with an oven for those of us that hot homemade pizza gives surviving a purpose. Thanks for the video sir.
7 months later.... thoughts on the fire extinguishers, those need to be replaced at some point as they run out of charge, however a FIRE BLANKET does NOT have an Expiration, and they are pretty inexpensive, easy to have several around your home.
Thank you for the fire blanket idea. I have never used a fire extinguisher and don't feel competent, so I will get a fire blanket!
@@kauffrau6764 I purchased a couple on Amazon for under four dollars each good deal
@@limitedaxcess yes I have seen that add where the firemen puts out the BBQ with the fire blanket ! Hua Hua just shut lid on the BBQ ! The same thing goes for your kitchen stove just put a lid on the burning pan ! The same thing we were tough in 1950s grade school !
Butane canisters can be purchased much cheaper at a restaurant supply store. Right now in my area they are about a dollar per canister.
I have several ways to cook inside and outside. I love my instafire stove/space heater. It has a fan that is placed on the cooking grate that is heat activated. I have 2. Coleman stove, 6hr tea light candles (put 7-10 in a circle and cook like you would on a gas stove. I put in a frying pan and placed a grate over them. I have power stations and 2 burner stove, but won't waste the power. I have a rocket stove and charcoal grill.
I live in an old persons condo in Florida. When the hurricanes came through, and the power died I really wanted to have a cup of espresso coffee and some hot water for backup so I used a BLUETTI EB3A and I used a Kelina Portable Travel Electric Kettle 400ML Small Hot Water Boiler with LCD Display,Mini Heater for Boiling Water, Tea Coffee Kettle with 4 Temperature Settings,Gray. (taken from the description on Amazon Amazon) I get no kickback. It took about 12% of the battery power to heat it up to 202°. What water I didn’t use I put into a Stanley classic vacuum insulated wide mouth bottle which kept the water hot for 20 hours.(above 150). I kept the batteries as a dedicated food battery and I have solar to recharge it. It was quiet and effective. I have other methods of cooking outside and I did try the alcohol stove initially. With absolutely none of the conditions you said except for the fire extinguisher. It threw out so much soot that it lasted for about one minute and I snuffed it out. So soot is a factor when you’re using the alcohol stove. I like the channel. It’s got good information. Appreciate it.
I like the small gas stove, but have a range of options for short and longer term alternatives. Kerosene camping stoves would be a longer term option- but needs good ventilation.
The canned heat sources are used mainly for chafing dishes, which keep food warm, not cook it. Thanks for your tests!
Once your butane is gone, you are done. Same with propane and alcohol. Wood fire is the only long term option.
Yep , even if your making charcoal like me n the neighbours it all boils down to using wood
and keeping an opinion is dangerous..
Guys. The video was for cooking indoors in an emergency. That implies short term. And unless you have an airtight stove, wood and especially charcoal, are too dangerous to use indoors.
Solar? Sun oven for out side & battery power power station (recharge with solar) powering a insta pot for inside
The title said indoor… also lots of people are living in apartments nowadays.
Thank you for doing this. I've been decision paralyzed, trying to figure out what I should use since I'm on a limited budget. Going to go with the Japanese one, due to the quality and effectiveness.
Exactly what I’m looking for , HONEST REVIEWS
I use regular rubbing alcohol in my grandparents alcohol stove. I always ventilate it / leave a window open. I love my butane stove.
Burning rubbing alcohol produces little to no carbon monoxide .
new Subscriber. This is great … thank you!! Note: I would never cook in a metal can … too many chemicals in the can and in the can liner. Big Like 👍
I buy a 4 pack of butane cartridges at Sam’s Club for about $8.65. I’ve read online several places that Asian food markets sell them for about $1 per can. I haven’t ventured out to verify that yet but plan to.
Excellent video, helped me a lot!
Butane is the hottest burning fuel and is not suggested for indoor use, but it cooks so fast that if you have enough ventilation for fresh air you will be okay if you get the job done quick. It will boil water fast if you want to make instant tea or coffee, or a quick hot sandwich or for heating canned food.
I havent watched the whole video yet so i dont know if he covered this, but I wanted to mention this before I forgot.
If you can, please buy the butane canisters with safety valves (they have blue indicators on the valves). This will prevent a deadly explosion if a butane stove is used incorrectly. Please UA-cam 'butane camp stove explosion' to be aware of how deadly this explosion can be.
The explosions can happen when using canisters without safety valves. What happens is that a user uses an oversized pan or pot. This causes the heat from the burner to spread toward the butane canister and overheats the canister resulting in an explosion.
If using a butane canister without a safety valve, make double sure to use an appropriate sized pan (not too large) and/or keep the pan from hanging over the canister section. Otherwise these are outstanding cooking devices.
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I cook and bbq in my fireplace during rainy days.
I have a home made alcohol stove and can get water to boil in about 12 minutes, however i use a tuna fish can filled with perlite. The perlite helps the denatured alcohol last longer. I dont use rubbing alcohol because it smokes, where denatured alcohol doesn't.
Old school Sterno GEL does get hot. If it has a wick, i avoid it! Nice video!
I've burned rubbing alcohol for years and never noticed any smoke
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Thank for the info.
We have a propane coleman dual burner camp stove. To support this, we have three 7 gallon propane tanks and five 5 gallon tanks. I've done the actual real math, and with those, we could cook twice a day, unhurriedly, for 4-5 months no problem, not that I'd want to...lol
Is that propane camping stove safe for indoor use? Using the small 2-lb propane cannistera
@@DaBurghSteelersyes, provided you have some ventilation. I would place ours in the kitchen right on top of our existing range.
Shouldn’t use the larger LPG tanks indoors. There is enough energy in a 20lb to blow a house apart.
@@stacky512a I was thinking about using my Coleman camp stove inside on top of the range, with back door open . Do you think it's ok.
@@gailbrown9096yup
I happened to have a different stove that you do not mention probably because it's relatively new in my area it's a butane one but it works differently and it is also meant for indoors it looks like a gas cooker with a line and yes it does the job fairly well there are some cons to it which it won't get into but yeah there are plenty of cookers out there not all of them are Coleman but some of them come close to the Coleman version.
A big thanks for reminding me about fire safety.
Do you think an induction cooktop instead of that hot plate would have still knocked electricity out of the running? Those things heat much faster than anything you tested and draw less juice.
How much less is key, I suppose.
As for boiling water fast, test an electric kettle if you want your mind blown.
It might be a good idea to think about ways to generate more electricity when outside help isn’t coming soon.
For the soup can over stereo method, I suppose that you could use it in a pinch, but please remember that many brands of soup are canned in a plastic-lined container, which might melt over direct flame
I do have all of the different bushcraft/camping stoves but I’m going to eat as simply as possible….Eat peanut butter and jelly…problem solved …I also have a woodstove…so in the Season that would be my go to
Have a lot of different ways of cooking 🍳 😋 all kinds of stoves.
EXCELLENT ! 😂
By the orange flame, it was obvious that the alcohol and canned heat stoves were not burning efficiently or as hot. You need to try a design that separates the vapor into jets (like the propane stoves). This will facilitate better fuel-oxygen mixture to create a blue flame.
I live in Apt. They getting rid of gas stove as people moving out to electric stoves. I not moving no time soon.
Good information. Thanks.
What a way to find out the detector is broken 😅 Jk. I love my little butane stove. I have 2 older 2 burner colemans as well but making everything in one pot is more efficient. Soups, stews, breads, even meat. When Irma hit us we were out for 5 days and we used canned heat, the butane stove, and outside we made a 16 brick rocket stove. Except for the AC and fridge we really didn't miss the power much. We had set up a solar shower over a bath tub to do laundry. I allowed 5 pieces of clothing at a time. You aren't going anywhere anyway lol. All lightweight stuff that washes and dries fast and easy. We had another solar shower set up for taking showers. I took it inside and used it in the shower stall but the guys just stayed outside. It was not bad at all. Lots of small fans and power stations with solar.
If you are out of power how does the co2 thing work? You had it plugged into the wall????
My idea of cooking in an emergency is heating up water for more of a meal you would use backpacking and rehydrate or heating water or soups so for me the little small single burner foldup backpacking burners that use the isobutane fuel cannisters.
Fairly inexpensive, easy on fuel and fuel cannisters are easy to source even from Walmart.
These are easy to keep for apartment dwellers that keeping larger cans of propane would not really be possible and easily packed and carried in case of needing to leave for a better or safer location.
Aloha hugs 🤗 my Candle Cardboard Can boil water in 1 minute each has 72 hour burn
I prep a years worth 3 in Ziploc bag I found a better price mark for Wax make my wicks with Boxar and salt I us #10 can to cook on and then a pineaple juice can to extinguish the fire will not blow out best.
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First time seeing the Vesta. I would never use canned heat, but I have a Trangia alcohol burner and cheap Coghlan's "cube stove" that knocks down flat (handy for austere camping, but flimsy). From the looks of the Vesta tray, I don't see any reason I couldn't stick a trangia or two in the Vesta tray and get the sturdy grated surface (or airflow with the top unit). Since you have a Vesta in hand, I was wondering if there was any reason you could see that you couldn't substitute small alc burners instead of those weaksauce cans? I'm not trying to survive long term with it, but Trangia and denatured fuel is to have something on hand for cooking in case of a short term power outage that doesn't involve "scary" (at least to spouses) ;) pressurized canister fuel. Been considering a DIY stove, but Vesta looks nicely made.
I may test that in the future. I'm sure it would work better for cooking than canned heat, but I'm not sure the thermal fan is rated for that. It's something I need to look into though. Thanks.
@@TheBugOutLocation Yeah, I was measuring out can height, spirit burner height, and thinking about flame height. At least if you put the sliding covers on each of the spirit burners you could close them some to adjust the flames. Since posting the comment earlier, I've just been thinking about a cheap $20 13x13 grille grate over a $35 Vollrath 6 inch deep stainless steel Half Pan. DIY to drill a few holes in the short sides of the food pan for air intake...about half the price of getting a Vesta. Too many options, but thanks for the video confirming canned heat is just not up to the task of what I'm looking for.
Great idea. I know you can buy the thermal fans on Amazon too. Sounds like a fun DIY project haha.
Love your logical approach my friend. Just one question - is that how Americans pronounce 'denatured' as if it had two 'n' sounds, so 'deNNatured'? I learnt it as 'dee-natured', like 'dee-activated' or 'dee-constructed' where the 'de' parts means 'no longer' like 'no longer natural', 'no longer activated' and 'no longer constructed'. I guess we say that because the 'dee-naturing' process is about making the alcohol undrinkable by adding chemicals.
Your correct haha. It was a mispronunciation
The red camp Alcohol stove has two different sized holes for jets. I have two of them, one I opened the smaller holes to the same size as the larger holes. It burns much cleaner and more efficiently now.
Don’t cans have plastic linings? I’m not sure I would heat that up in the can.
I have used my butane stove, also, and I have a well-stocked shelf of canisters.
If you have to cook it you are pretty much done, learn to eat cold food, it’s very good and can get you through many emergencies.
I agree
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Den-a-tured ? Oh come on man. Remember how your high school English teacher taught you how to find the syllables. De- na-tured.
In an emergency situation, fuel conservation is more important than fast boiling water, so it's much more important to run gas stoves on the much more efficient low setting. 15 minutes to wait for a boil is fine if you can get 2x the number of boils out of one can. Save being in a hurry for when you know when you will no longer need it.
Your gas one is not too dissimilar to the ones that I use and yes I use them indoors because I do not have any other means of using it not that I don't have electricity but that my electric stove top was damaged when we were moving and I couldn't afford a new one.
Gas stoves are the best!
What makes it rated for indoor use ? Or not rated for indoor use ?
The burn efficiency and how well it's built. Both go hand in hand.
It’s not a CO2 detector, it’s a carbon MONOXIDE detector. Carbon monoxide is CO (1).
I have a question. I know this video is about cooking and is old i just need help with this, we just moved into our house and we have a wood burning stove in basement how do we know if it works? Do i need to have someome come inspect if so who? Lol thank u
I'm not sure about this, but if it were me, I'd have a chimney sweep come check it out. I'd want to be absolutely sure before I used it.
@@TheBugOutLocation thank u
Major fan of alcohol stoves for indoors under SHTF. Many people like HEET, a gas additive available anywhere they sell car stuff (Walmart, gas stations, etc.) Get the stuff in the yellow 12 oz. bottle. MSDS says it is 100% methanol and .00006% proprietary other stuff. That is more than 100%, but that is what it said. Technically methanol will burn to yield water (H2O) and carbon Dioxide (CO2), the stuff you exhale. Still, open a window.
You got the very high BTU stoves you are burning a lot of butane ! Get the 6500 BTU stoves it is all about energy management ! I loaned my Brother my Honda generator he was running the generator 24 /7 I tried to tell him just run the generator 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the evening to and do not open the refrigerator door 😂😢 I am into the energy management 😊😊
Are coleman propane camping stoves safe for indoor use?
I’ve used them indoors in a hurricane.
What makes a gas stove safe for indoor use ??
Food cans have a plastic like lining. Never heat food in the can. The lining will melt into the food.
I'm used my microwave and counter top stove hooked up to solar generator
Gas always out performs electric for cooking and heating.
Good video
Water will boil more quickly if you put a lid on the pan
Use a pot with a diameter at least as big as the burner.
A lot of people don't have the funds for all of those options that you suggest.
I think if you get a butane stove you should always get one that can take a propane connection as well. I also wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. Better to have 2 or even 3 ways to cook food and keep warm. The biggest problem for people is space to store it all.
I have different options, with canister, gas bottles, electric, tee lights, but nothing for wood. We live in the UK. Survival skills are lacking badly here. If you try to build a pantry, people see it as being selfish and you wiping out the store, even if the store is full after you left. Basically they believe that shortage will happen just because you are building a pantry for you and your family.
I am NOT sure about sitting the CAN of FOOD on the flame??? Isn't there something in the can make-up that could be hazardous to people's health? I don't remember exactly what it is about the cans? Maybe some kind of INSIDE LINING????
It’s a CO monitor. Not a CO2 monitor. CO2 is carbon dioxide. The stuff you breathe out.
Mono means one. Di means two. Therefore carbon monoxide is one carbon and one oxygen. Written as CO. Carbon dioxide is one carbon and 2 oxygens. CO2. You should’ve learnt that in basic science class.
If you’re trying to teach others, you really should know the basics. Otherwise the not so smart ones will be searching Amazon for a carbon dioxide monitor.
Those Butane stoves are great in the warm weather.
But if you have a complete power outage, (gas and Hydro) your house will be cold in the Winter and the Butane will not vapourize. Therefore no cooking!😮
Since you mention fire extinguishers, having a few on hand may buy one some time in the event the zombies outside tries to smoke you out of your castle.
Don't you feel that the VISTA heater costs too much to use. With 3 cans costing about $10-$12 that is a lot for heat. Comments? Plus it only heats up to about 10 degrees warmer is what I read.
if you are looking for a heat source. and a wood stove is not a option. I very strongly suggest a Chinese Diesel heater and good 12 volt battery. ( I have a computer power supply connected) when a power outage happens I have a switch that changes to 12 volt battery. I get 3 days run on 12 volt battery. 5 gallons of diesel last 4 days. if you can get used veg. oil. strain it and you can mix veg. oil and diesel 50/50 with no problems. You will have a exhaust pipe to deal with. a buddy heater sucks the propane . a kerosene heater would be a good 2nd choice
I tested two alcohol burners with two different fuels. It took me like 25 minutes to boil 2 cups.
I have several and none of them take that long to boil 2 cups of water. Curious which Alcohol stoves you have. I have a Simon I’ve used for over 30 years, a ceramic one was for a fondue set and several homemade ones plus a Trangia.
@@akbychoice One is a Pathfinder stove. I can’t remember what the other one was. I suspect I was doing something wrong cuz everyone else speaks highly of alcohol stoves. Do I need to fill them up all the way?
Hand Sanitizer burns clean.
A fire blanket is more useful than an extinguisher
jet533 where do you get those?
@@katiefoster6624 I bought mine on Temu (much cheaper) but you can Google fire blanket and find locally too.
the CO monitor should be battery powered
Wood stove
You can get the six pack of sternos for $10 from a party store.
Just a little correction. It's not CO2 - that is carbon dioxide.
Butane is more difficult to light than propane in colder temperature.
First of all some of the things that you are talking about are okay if you can afford them a lot of them are expensive maybe not so much to Americans but anyone who does not currently live in the United States, and some of the items are not available everywhere.
Carbon monoxide?
Butane stove doesn’t work below freezing .
each one IS
Butane was $16 10 months ago on amazon. Now it’s $29.
Sterno does not work at high altitudes.
Did you really mean CO2 monitor? Don’t you mean CO monitor?
You keep saying CO2, but you mean CO (carbon monoxide)
I love your page... but it's a CO! DETECTOR! NOT CO2😅
Theo Marye
Did you purchase a CO detector and assume it's a CO² detector? That's two different things!