The Brave New World of Carbon Trading

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  • Опубліковано 24 січ 2025

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  • @patersjy
    @patersjy 7 років тому +4

    Only 3215 views???? This is brilliant. Watch his other presentations.

    • @the81kid
      @the81kid 4 роки тому +1

      I have to suggest, with all due respect, you might be making the same mistake most environmentalists and leftists make: they think that most people are good and all they need is the right presentation, the correct language. Most people don't care. To adapt Noam Chomsky: the people don't know, and they don't want to know. People have known officially since 1988 that global warming is a threat to civilization, and now it has a very good chance of collapsing our civilization. Is anyone having less babies? Most people couldn't care less. If you gave the average person a choice between a) getting new iPhones and making all non farming animals extinct, and b) no new smartphone ever, but keeping the mammals alive, most people would choose the smartphones. Nobody wants to watch this presentation, they want to consume "content" that supports their pre-existing worldview.

    • @patersjy
      @patersjy 4 роки тому +1

      @@the81kid Unfortunately I agree with you. Difficult trying to reconcile some form of optimism with reality. Not only regards climate change.

    • @the81kid
      @the81kid 4 роки тому +1

      @@patersjy
      I know what you mean. But maybe optimism and "hopium" are now the problem. The world is going to change, and so few are ready even just psychologically.

  • @patersjy
    @patersjy 7 років тому +2

    How can university communicators be unable to show slides as well as speaker??

  • @the81kid
    @the81kid 4 роки тому

    Good talk. It ties in very well with Philip Mirowski's work on neoliberalism and how carbon credits are (were, mostly) just a neoliberal answer to ecosystem destruction: create new markets, which then fail, and then move on to the next scheme, which is also based on creating new markets. His 2013 book "Never Let a Serious Crisis Go to Waste" included a whole chapter on climate change, and much of that chapter was dedicated to carbon credit trading. I wonder if any of the people questioning at the end of this talk are still defending carbon credit markets now 10 years later. Now we're well into the next stage (renewable energy), which has done nothing for global emissions or ecosystem destruction, and soon we'll be entering the final solution: geoengineering, which will also fail. The goal is never to protect the ecosystem, but just to create new markets. The Kyoto Agreement is ancient history now. The Paris Agreement is already old, and the signatories are not "on target" (to put it mildly) to meet those targets either. Carbon emissions are nearly 50 ppm higher than when this talk was made. 2050 is now only 30 years away.

  • @carbonicoyster5907
    @carbonicoyster5907 5 років тому +2

    Not sure how I ended up here but i'm glad that I did. It is rare to hear anyone with a brain talking about 'climate change'.

    • @the81kid
      @the81kid 4 роки тому +1

      In the 1970s environmentalists were anti-consumption, anti-nuclear, they campaigned to return to nature and a more natural way of life. Today's environmentalists are lobbyists for corporations, they campaign for giant corporations to receive giant government subsidies (taxpayer funded, of course), they are pro-nuclear and want alternative sources of power to keep production and consumption going. We have practically no environmentalists anymore. They've practically all been co-opted. My sister goes on Extinction Rebellion protests. She doesn't know much about the ecosystem or energy systems, but she can make friends, go on trips, belong to a "community". Environmentalism is dead. Virtually nobody cares about the planet.

    • @elcapitan6126
      @elcapitan6126 3 роки тому

      @@the81kid Illustrates very well the power of... well, power itself. Does make you wonder if the human experiment / machine has moved beyond the threshold of survival already.

  • @elcapitan6126
    @elcapitan6126 3 роки тому

    I'm convinced that if everyone had some experience with real-world software development they would come to the same conclusion as this guy, that reality is often far more complex than our models of it, and management will always favor the oversimplified model that tells them what they want to hear :)