@@Smiley-tc9so Technically Pandora was the First Shadow boss. Because Pandora was a Shadow created from Maki like Mai and Aki. A part of her that wanted to destroy the real world where she was almost unable to move and create a new one with the help of the Deva System
Out of the entire ost, something always brings me back to this song. There's this unpredictable, constantly shifting quality to it and yet the flow throughout the different sections feels so deliberate and perfect. The way it serves as a capstone for the Kandori leitmotif is also brilliant. There's just no other final boss theme quite like it. RIP Aoki.
To be fair, the shadows we see aren't normally manifested shadows Mai, Aki and Pandora manifested due to the DEVA system And the ones in Persona 2 were created by rumours or crafted by... Him
Despite knowing nothing about SMT or the Persona games, this is probably one of my favorite final boss themes that I've ever heard, no other song out there hits the way this one does for some reason.
This > Weird hellish monster nightmare theme. Other theme > beautiful rainbow like butterfly theme. Figures. Its as if the devs did not do this on purpose to annoy us because it seems like it was 100% intended like that to use this song for phase 1 and the other for phase 2
Pandora's original Persona theme had such foreboding rock anthem that pump my spirit up. It really have gave you a sense of her being the final boss of the Avidya world
This battle theme is way better than the psp one. I think it embodies the tension and the difficulty of the situation, you are not in a showtime like in P5 you’re freaking facing the nihilistic out of control god of Maki’s world in a desperate attempt to stop it from destroying the entire world.
Some parts of this remind me of Giygas' theme in Earthbound. The weird, glitchy background noise and unsettling tones specifically. The Masked Man final fight theme reminds me of this even more.
With how horrific Pandora's first form looks this theme fits well. Sounds like something out of Resident Evil or Silent Hill. The PSP version fits better with the Second Form
You know? I like inboruko sondtrack, is dark and tense. Nothing against to psp version, and understand they tried to bring more "pop" style, but doesnt fit for this game
as poorly aged as this game is, this soundtrack is pretty timeless. while i prefer listening to the psp's god tier soundtrack, the psx soundtrack has the superior atmosphere, 100%.
This might be the best final boss theme in the franchise, up there with Megami Tensei II's Omega. The PSP one isn't bad, but it's a bit too derivative of a lot of ATLUS games from the 2000s. When I first heard the theme, I legit thought it was from like DDS or Persona 4. On top of this, it's just not very fitting for Pandora, who is the ultimate expression of Maki's nihilism and despair. On the other hand, this fits perfectly, blending those formidable orchestral hits, uplifting trance, and the occasional sinister interlude to create something remarkable. While the individual elements are fine on their own, it's when they come together that the mood that they create is fascinating. It straight up screams, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, & Parasite Eve. This might rival "One Winged Angel" from Final Fantasy 7 as the best final boss theme in a JRPG.
This whole soundtrack uses a good portion of Roland Sound Canvas 88 Pro patches. This song for its main riff uses the orchestral hit from that module. Persona 2, Devil Summoner, and Soul Hackers also use the same sound module for the most part.
@@Jexton Thanks for the info! Saw this just in time. Been working on a personal P1 music project and have been trying to find some good orchestra hits that aren't from a fucking cheapo Casio lol. Some of the VSTs I've been using don't have any good orchestra hits at all or they sound incredibly weak, even with countless effects on em.
This version is more befitting for when you're fighting the giant butt vagina form of Pandora though. The upbeat music of the psp version just doesn't work with the abomination. Works fine for the butterfly form tho.
Aoki really made one of the best RPG soundtracks ever and dipped, never to be seen again.
Sad that he passed away too young.
he did create the majin tensei OST and thats also some of megatens best music (but fr rest in peace man)
Yeah cause he fucking died in a horrible car accident on a mountain
@@scrappy2082 Honestly the top 4 MegaTen OST's are Majin Tensei 2, SMT4, Persona 4(please don't hurt me), and Megami Ibunroku Persona
@@BIGROYFAN7000 I will grrrr (but only because I think P5’s OST is kind of Shoji Meguros masterpiece)
see kids, in my day this is what fighting a shadow sounded like
You mean... a demon?
@@Smiley-tc9so Technically Pandora was the First Shadow boss. Because Pandora was a Shadow created from Maki like Mai and Aki. A part of her that wanted to destroy the real world where she was almost unable to move and create a new one with the help of the Deva System
bad localizations and all, huh?
@@GiordanDiodato The bad translated names aren't that bad. You just ignore or accept that and play the game. The PSX OST is worth it
@@Mark-tq7bf Bruh exist a patch with the original music for psp
Out of the entire ost, something always brings me back to this song. There's this unpredictable, constantly shifting quality to it and yet the flow throughout the different sections feels so deliberate and perfect. The way it serves as a capstone for the Kandori leitmotif is also brilliant.
There's just no other final boss theme quite like it. RIP Aoki.
This is true but can I know what instruments are used? I have a lot to say about this song.
ya see son, back in my day, persona users had shadows after awakening to their power.
To be fair, the shadows we see aren't normally manifested shadows
Mai, Aki and Pandora manifested due to the DEVA system
And the ones in Persona 2 were created by rumours or crafted by... Him
@@BlueMageDaisen have you seen Naoya's shadow??? I sure have
@@catsarecute7447 Again it's part of the DEVA systems effects
@@BlueMageDaisen ah well, even if it's an effect of the deva system, they're still shadows
@@BlueMageDaisen Naoya's shadow was in Alaya though? So that's part of the collective unconsiousness, not the DEVA system.
Despite knowing nothing about SMT or the Persona games, this is probably one of my favorite final boss themes that I've ever heard, no other song out there hits the way this one does for some reason.
Not gonna lie, this quickly became one of my favorite final boss themes of all time.
Que?
@@3fimer0 Si
@@corey9784 si
@@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 efectivamente
@@corey9784 efetivamente
Imagine this track with the PSP version's jumpscare cutscene.
What jumpscare cutscene?
The one with a deformed boss pandora before she turns into a butterfly.
The atmosphere of this song is perfect!
I wouldn't really call it a jumpscare but it works well, everyone make sure to download your music patches!
@@FungalFury well it's a jumpscare for me cause when i saw it i jumped and i was scare ;(
It feels like that this theme should've been used for the first stage of Pandora, and the PSP version should've been used once the butterfly emerges.
It would've been so much better
I've thought that for a long time
OH MY GOD I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!!!!
Mm-hmm
This > Weird hellish monster nightmare theme. Other theme > beautiful rainbow like butterfly theme. Figures. Its as if the devs did not do this on purpose to annoy us because it seems like it was 100% intended like that to use this song for phase 1 and the other for phase 2
I love how beautiful and atmospheric "transitory butterfly" is and how it's masterfully uses it's leitmotif.
unpopular opinion probably but this is my favorite final boss theme in the series
edit: it is now my favorite song in all of persona
I can respect that, it truly is 90s as fuck
I can respect it, i personaly prefer battle hym of the soul, but this is also a banger
Agreed, this is my favorite Persona Final Boss theme 🙏
"なんでなの...?"
*Mabufudyne*
"もう やめて..."
*Butterfly Storm*
I can’t read Japanese, but this was still so memorable to me that I recognized it
The beginning of this song actually uses the leitmotif of the Persona theme, aka the SEBEC route bad ending song, and the Persona 1 PSX intro theme.
P5のパンドラとP1のパンドラ
P3のニュクスとP1のニュクス、本質が対照的すぎてめちゃくちゃ好きなんよな
PS1 final boss track: ominous, oppressive, goes through several movements, reprises the game's main theme
PSP final boss track: short cheesy rock loop
agreed
Guess Persona 1 and Sonic CD have something in common.
Pandora's original Persona theme had such foreboding rock anthem that pump my spirit up. It really have gave you a sense of her being the final boss of the Avidya world
Tenshi Cat this track totally fits the game better with all the weird early 90’s things going on.
Still liked the PSP. It wasn't that cheesy.
This battle theme is way better than the psp one. I think it embodies the tension and the difficulty of the situation, you are not in a showtime like in P5 you’re freaking facing the nihilistic out of control god of Maki’s world in a desperate attempt to stop it from destroying the entire world.
Some parts of this remind me of Giygas' theme in Earthbound. The weird, glitchy background noise and unsettling tones specifically. The Masked Man final fight theme reminds me of this even more.
I actually hear it too now that you mention it
*You could not grasp Pandora's true form!*
@@CrazyFriendlyGamerAlex the form of her attack was inexplicable!!
True!! Especially at the first part
And the battle has a psychedelic background like Mother games usually do
Such a scary battle theme, works hella good though.
6:06 Love this part, the ending is so mellow and macabre and near hopeless, it's like the theme saying "So how do you plan to lose?"🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
タイトルの莊子の胡蝶夢から始まることやフィレモンのモチーフが蝶の意匠なのもさることながら
最終戦のタイトルが「はかなき蝶」なのめちゃくちゃセンスあると思ってるんですよね
ペルソナ６でこれのアレンジ＆フィレモン＆ピアスの少年再登場絶対やってほしいと思ってます
そういえば使う技がバタフライストームなのでバタフライエフェクトも網羅してるのいいな
half expected to hear floweys laugh after 1:30 cause it sounds alot like the beginning of "your best nightmare"
I didn't play the original Persona on PS1...but damn, the moment at 1:06 is *FREAKING EPIC*
I completely agree. Whenever I listen to that part I feel like I’m ascending to another plain of existence
dat leitmotif.
It’s really telling everyone that this is still Shin Megami Tensei
my fav boss theme in all the series
so fucking powerful
That.....was......AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!
Hey Naoya!
@@Smiley-tc9so hi
With how horrific Pandora's first form looks this theme fits well. Sounds like something out of Resident Evil or Silent Hill.
The PSP version fits better with the Second Form
per-saw-na!
DIIIE
Puhsownah!
Help me!
AAAAA
Per sauna!
Zelda and Final Fantasy final boss music ain't got nothin on this one
You know? I like inboruko sondtrack, is dark and tense. Nothing against to psp version, and understand they tried to bring more "pop" style, but doesnt fit for this game
Isn't the name of this piece Transitory Butterfly?
Yes
as poorly aged as this game is, this soundtrack is pretty timeless. while i prefer listening to the psp's god tier soundtrack, the psx soundtrack has the superior atmosphere, 100%.
Yes I argue the psp game but like the soundtracks in the psx.
The gameplay just hits different, very reminicent of the early smt games and soul hackers
It's just classic SMT with a grid-based battle system and a more streamlined conversation mechanic. There's no "poorly aged" anything in here.
Why 90's techno music was so BADASS?
Compared to Toilet Dubstep nowadays.
old music good new music bad huh
its not as if i think dubstep is any good, but be honest with yourself. is 90s techno really much better?
@@tataladdd4251 Well, i listened to some 90's electronic music and it sounds nice ^_^
why yes dubstep is still a relevant and popular music genre worth hating on compared to those niche genres like pop and rap
@@lezzei I actually do enjoy Dubstep from time to time. And sometimes pop and rap, but not much on the rap... But i love 80's, 90's and 00's pop.
@@tataladdd4251 yes.
The same orchestra hits as P2EP, cool
羽化したパンドラが美しすぎ
真・女神転生5で出てくれ
うつくしいいか?
@@user-yj6bv9cl8i うつくしいいぞぉ
pov you start fighting the guy behind you after dropping the soap
This might be the best final boss theme in the franchise, up there with Megami Tensei II's Omega. The PSP one isn't bad, but it's a bit too derivative of a lot of ATLUS games from the 2000s. When I first heard the theme, I legit thought it was from like DDS or Persona 4. On top of this, it's just not very fitting for Pandora, who is the ultimate expression of Maki's nihilism and despair. On the other hand, this fits perfectly, blending those formidable orchestral hits, uplifting trance, and the occasional sinister interlude to create something remarkable. While the individual elements are fine on their own, it's when they come together that the mood that they create is fascinating. It straight up screams, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, & Parasite Eve. This might rival "One Winged Angel" from Final Fantasy 7 as the best final boss theme in a JRPG.
Oh hey, this is Kandori's Theme.
PS1 version for Phase 1; PSP version for phase 2.
@@zayne7921 honestly i don't dig too deeply in the comments of old vids.
Damn I never heard the whole song....got damn😳
peak
Idk the boss fight would be more epic with this than the rock song,I got so bored of the song so quickly I lowered the volume for it
This uses some bits of Persona 2 soundfont
No, Persona 2 used bits from this soundfont
Right, because everyone knows 2 comes before 1....wait...
@water bottle ...which means 2 came *after* 1.
This whole soundtrack uses a good portion of Roland Sound Canvas 88 Pro patches. This song for its main riff uses the orchestral hit from that module.
Persona 2, Devil Summoner, and Soul Hackers also use the same sound module for the most part.
@@Jexton Thanks for the info! Saw this just in time. Been working on a personal P1 music project and have been trying to find some good orchestra hits that aren't from a fucking cheapo Casio lol. Some of the VSTs I've been using don't have any good orchestra hits at all or they sound incredibly weak, even with countless effects on em.
It's weird, for the most part, I actually much prefer the OG P1's OST, but the final boss is the one exception. I much prefer the PSP's version.
This version is more befitting for when you're fighting the giant butt vagina form of Pandora though. The upbeat music of the psp version just doesn't work with the abomination. Works fine for the butterfly form tho.
@@CatManThree yeah, that's fair. I've seen that opinion a lot in these comments, actually.