Bikes should never be not affordable! Recently learned that with my dreambike 21‘ tuono v4. Everything is so extremly expensive, Service, Parts, Insurance, tires, etc. Been happier with my 30 year old 60hp Africa Twin 750, which cost me 200€ a year and occasional Parts and Service which i did myself. Premium bikes are for rich people. As a student im having more fun with older slower cheaper bikes Even though that Thunder tuono has always been my dream bike. Now switching back to 75hp, DIY and low insurance cost to enjoy biking again. It hurts to let her go, i know that feeling. But you did the right thing. Its all about fun, not headaches.
i'm looking for my first motorcycle since i recently got my A2 licence and thought about buying brand new at first before realizing how much everything other than the bike would cost. Now i'm thinking about either a 400cc bike or an old one that i can learn to ride and fix
Yep. It’s the trend I think, with all the costs of running going up it’s just not feasible to run newer more premium bikes. I think bikes SHOULD be an affordable alternative to driving cars but they’ve evolved far beyond that (at least for new bikes).
I think premium cars are also crazy expensive to fix. My sister lost her key for a late model VW and it cost $1500 to replace!! Like you say, get older stuff you can fix yourself, teach your kids to fix, not freak out if you go off road and drop them, they are often not as powerful so you have less chance of serious accidents, look super cool when done up. I think I’m getting old…
@@ORNG370 A perfect bike, if you like the style, would be the Honda CRF 300 L. Cheap in severance, parts and service and you can drive on and off-road.
I agree 100%! That's is the same with a lot of things in life. Once something is considered by me to be "too expensive to have a go at fixing it myself," then I can't really afford it. I am simply kidding myself and hiding that delusion with credit and cutting back somewhere else.
When I attended off-road riding training the first thing the instructor said was can you pick up your bike at least 3 times, then made us place our bikes down on carpet and essentially pick them up, the other was can you push this bike 1 km (you just ran out of petrol) the last was if you dropped or had a slow down what would you have to do to repair then replace and cost. It changed everything.
I agree with your assessment. Having ridden MX, a heavy mx bike ; a big 4 stroke, is 120kg ish. The XE looks like it would be a mega off road bike, but I found it a tricky ride in the dirt. Same with adventure bikes. 👍🏼👍🏼
Totally agree and BTW I saw your video on the 900 which I agree is much closer to the original concept and just plain cooler all round and is a comfortable alternative even for big blokes like you and me.
I have a 1200XE. and a Rally built KTM 990R. The triumph is an excellent dirt road bike, and even reasonable groomed fire trails. Crosses creeks with ease but feel slightly off when standing on the pegs. That 1200 twin is superb but is only about half a fast as the 990 over rough ground.
I really enjoyed this review. That 1200 scrambler seems like a roucas ride when you twist the wrist and overtake traffic! You're going to have a hard time replacing that part of the experience. My recommendation to those trying to find the right size dual purpose or scrambler motorcycle is to put it down gently and pick it up three times in a row. Now imagine having to pick it up on the low side of a hill and trying to get it back on the trail. I tried the KLR 650, f650 GS, and DR 650. I wouldn't want to have to pick up any of them uphill off the trail. I think the 250 to 350 sizes are plenty, the former getting you to 65 mph and the latrer getting you to about 80 mph. But any 1200 cc twin is going to be a blast man. Again, real life video, well done.
To each their own. For me, this bike is a Swiss Army knife. 8 hours on the tarmac to gnarly backwoods, camping remotely, on and off road all around more capable than my 400 dual sport. Multi surface tour across the country? This bike, every time.
I just bought a new Triumph Scrambler 400X here in the States. Seems like a great bike, a very reasonable at $5600 US . 40 HP, water cooled single, pretty smooth, handles well on the road. At 395 pounds it is not a single tracker, at least not for me but it should do well on forest service dirt roads. This should sell very well for Triumph. Lighter and more HP than the Royal Enfield Himalayan.
Just got mine a couple weeks ago. Finally took it up a fire road with ruts and rocks, did great! Rear wheel only broke loose when I asked it to, otherwise very stable and easy to handle. I came from dirt bikes so it's a bit heavier than those, but by no means too heavy for some light off roading. So much fun!
Got a 400X last month. Such a great bike. You'd never believe that one can have this much fun on a bike with 40 hp, but it pulls great and easily reaches all the legal speeds you'd need. And it looks great to boot. ^^
Having had the same experiences and needs as you (and also having been fortunate enough to own a scrambler 1200 myself)… I ended up moving on to a Tuareg 660. Never been happier, looks aside vs the 1200.
400x is great off road and on road...I'm 220lbs, and love it on the more rough jeep trails and secondary roads...it's super light and stable at low speeds, ABS and traction control are really nice on gravel, but you can turn it off and go nuts, too. I probably beat on it a bit too hard but it's holding up quite well, albeit only at 1200 miles so far. It goes 60-80 MPH no problem, around 90 it's about done. It will wheelie over hills if you aren't careful with the throttle the way it's geared :) I came from a Street Triple after years of riding Harleys and Hondas. The Striple was a bit too much for me, and the 400x just scratches the itch without making me want to do really stupid things.
I really appreciate your honesty about the financial side of riding. Last year, after owning an BMW RnineT, different Ducati und Harley-Davidson models, i sold my Monster 1200s. I initially wanted to take a break from riding but then discovered the Royal Enfield 650s models. I ended up buying an almost new Continental GT, modified it a bit and have so much fun since then. They are pretty affordable compared to what you get...love this bike more than previous bikes i own and which were 2-3 times more expensive. So maybe just have look...downgrading can be fun 🙂
Some good points, I went for a 650 Int, Would you have considered an 865 bonneville/thruxton? I went for mine as it was newer and still had some warranty left. So far it’s been really reliable.
@@Nick_B1978 No i haven't considered a Triumph last year. I 've been attracted by the Interceptor and the 350 classic and finally bought the Continental after a test ride and falling in love with the cafe racer look. But at the moment i think about saving some money and add the 1200 X/ XC or XE for my 50th Birthday in about 3 years. So....being smart and reasonable just doesn't last that long, i guess. 🙂 Best Regards from Germany!
Thanks for the encouragement! I agree, I love riding the most and that won’t change. I’m ok with it (maybe regret later down the line but I need to look after my family first)
Yes, agreed, I have one too and to me, its off-road capability for the average rider is at most gravel trail/fire road with no difficulty. I'll take it to Salisbury plains to scratch that offroad itch of mine and will ride with a trail riding guide company who provide small dual sport rentals.
Great video and very good point! I downsized from massive bikes to a Yamaha XT250. I now have one season riding it everywhere, but mostly offroad including some extremely rough places. I've had the most fun on a bike! I learned a lot not just how to ride offroad, but how to ride - I'm a much safer rider now (though I've been riding for decades). Try a light dual sport - you may love it!
I’ve had a number of DRZ’s and yes they’re good off road substitutes for a dirt bike that can go on road. But needed a better/bigger road bike with six gears, which means you’re paying for two bikes. I just sold my DRZ and triumph street triple and got a scrambler 1200xe. I love the bike and it gives me new challenges riding it off road, which is what I needed as an experienced rider. I think the scrambler is not the right choice for a novice rider on or more importantly off road. You said it yourself, great video.
I love that Scrambler! Bless you for making this video, it's hard to part with something so loveable, but it sounds like you made the right decision. I raced motorcross as a kid, and I've gotten back into it now with my son (I'm 36). Answer might not be on road! I'm sure the DRZ is fun on the trails, but you should try a proper motorcross track if you get the chance. Takes a lot of guts but would be great to see you on there. I'm eyeing off the '24 Svartpilen for another road bike. I had the '21 model and love it, but like you've talked about here, doing things in a financially responsible way is really important. Loved this video, first I've seen of you. Can't wait to see what you end up on!
Switch to the Scrambler 900 for road! Same vibe and feeling but for the road. I just got one and im in love with it. As you said, you will still have your DRZ for enduro dual sport stuff!
It’s a scrambler in name only unless you are bloody good and very experienced off road, keep it and get a cheap Honda XR 250 for off road (other off road bikes are available)
I just had the same issue happen to me! The fan bracket broke ripping up the back of the radiator causing a catastrophic coolant overheat on the road back home.
Great video mate. I own one just because of the crank’s firing order which makes an amazing sound and seating position, being 6”4’ it’s difficult to find a bike that I can fit on. Quickly realised that the premium suspension that has been equipped with is just not up to the task, very expensive parts as you already mentioned and to be honest who wants to take a £13k bike offroad where there’s a huge chance of dropping and damaging it
Same reasons I'm actually fancying A2 compliant bikes, 48hp is more than enough unless you ride 80% highway with a pillion, way lighter so easier to pick up, way better fuel economy, way cheaper to 1. Buy, 2. Insure, 3. Repair. The biggest downside is losing out on exhaust note as they're either thumpers or 180 twins, no juicy 270 or 90° sound.
I think CF moto's new MT450 has a parallel twin with a 270° crank and sounds really good ! I don't know about their reliability and labour cost as they're pretty new but I think it's worth checking it out.
@ORNG370 Yeah, I've seen the reviews of them, definitely great value, especially if you're a home mechanic. They do sound amazing, and reliability is probably on par with KTM so I genuinely wouldn't be too worried. Ain't a Honda, but with that price tag, you don't expect it to be. Loaded with tech as well, I really hope they'll make a scrambler version soon. We'll also see the Royal Enfield Scram 450 in the near future, so the A2 scrambler market will get a nice addition to the Scrambler 400x and (S)CL500. Really exited for this market shift!
I bought the Speed Twin 2021 in red really flew of at 8000km and smashed the thing and me^^ And bought a 2022 Speed Twin with Jekyll n Hyde exhaust after that^^ Speed Twin is my bike i will allways own. Such a good bike. Can do it all for me
Sheesh that insurance cost is highway robbery. I have a 2019 scrambler XE but live in the states. My dad and I have our bikes on the same plan to cut down on the cost with a group plan. Its only about 200$ a year for it.
That’s an amazing price! Yep sadly theft is mostly un-investigated here and it’s very common, cost of repair also recently rocketed so they’re passing on the cost to us. Sucks.
Love the 1200XE. Works great for me in the city, on the twisties, up dirt roads, and on occasional off-road motocamping trips. Yes, could be expensive if ya break stuff but anyone who buys this bike knows that unless head up your bum.
Go with a gently used Tiger 800 or newer 900. You won’t regret it. My back-up choice would be the Scrambler 900 but they’re just as heavy if not more so, and they do not point into the turn like a tiger. The Tigers are a work of art, and insurance friendly. I ride a 2016 Tiger 800XR (with some tasteful off-road mods) and have been very pleased.
@@Willieswheels agree. Hard to beat the scrambler look. But you can drastically upgrade the Tiger “experience” with an aftermarket exhaust. I went with a Max Torque Can out of England, which looks great in different finishes and sounds very close to the thunderous Akrapovic growl with the baffle removed, for 1/3 the price.
When you're kicking back in your digital armchair and comparing bikes, it's easy to get lost in the marketing hype. But diving deep into real-world reviews and footage reveals the truth: the Scrambler 1200 XE, while a beast in its own right, just can't dance on tight, gnarly trails like the Husqvarna 701 Enduro. So, forget the glossy brochures for a second. Watch the dirt fly. See how each bike handles the rough stuff. That's the real litmus test, and it's clear that the 701's nimble agility and off-road DNA shine through where the Scrambler's heft holds it back. Don't get me wrong, both bikes are awesome, but it's all about choosing the right tool for the job. And if hardcore single-track adventures are your jam, the visual evidence speaks volumes.
You can change the fan without removing the radiator hoses in about 30 minutes. I had to change mine because a rock bounced off my leg and landed in the fan housing and stopped the fan, i bought a used one off of Ebay for $60.00, it would have been a nightmare to have to undo all those hoses and then somehow clamp them back on.
@@Willieswheels unbolt the top and slide the bottom off the tab, unbolt the fan housing from the radiator and pull the bottom from the frame while twisting the fan out. It was super tight and a bitch to wrestle with, but didn't take that long to swap out.
Dude, why go off-road without protection? I've had the opposite experience. I’ve installed top and bottom crash bars, barkbusters, and a subframe for the exhaust. Now, it looks like a bike from a zombie apocalypse. Additionally, I bought an axe to clear fallen trees blocking the trail. Yes, it’s heavy, but I can lift it alone, even with a 60 liter backpack on it (my weight is 150 lbs). It’s my versatile, do-it-all bike that I ride daily - offroad, in the city, and on the freeway. I absolutely love its performance. Plus, I only pay around $140 USD per year for insurance.
I've been riding off road for nearly 40 years and I've just bought a 1200 Scrambler (not an XE) but for road use only. My enduro bike is at least as high as an XE but over 100kg lighter with way better suspension and even that can sometimes be a handful in the dirt. It's also crap on the road. It all depends how high you set the bar but there's no such thing as a do it all bike, it's just compromise. I like the look and the feel and the overall ride of the classic scramblers on the road but I'm under no illusions as to their limitations.
The harsh reality of it is that the 900 Scrambler is actually a better all round bike. Nobody in the UK thrashes these bikes down green lanes at 70 mph, they are doing 25mph at best so the shorter suspension doesn't matter. And BTW I am speaking as a RTW rider who spends a lot of time in the serious dirt for which I wouldn't chose any of them in preference to a real lightweight dirt bike if time was the factor v fun being the main motivation which brings it back to the 900. A bike with better looks and a much nicer soundtrack. Check out Darcy and the Ol Man's video on it. He is a big chap like me, but fits it fine and I agree with his comment that the 900 is closer to the true concept of the Scrambler.
@@andrewkitchenuk 100% ! Possibly one of the most comfortable bikes Triumph make for taller people, apart from the annoying side pipe but that can be modified or replaced by a low pipe.
Owning a 2012 Scrambler 900 ( as well as a an HD) I can attest that Trumpeter parts are ridiculously expensive. 1at off the dealerships can charge whatever they want, my closest dealer is also a BMW dealer, everything is BMW prices (Oil filters I buy online form a dealer out of state that sells them for what the book says, I bought 8 of them a few years back) . The clutch needed changing, to have them install a new OEM clutch (I wanted Aftermarket as I never had a clutch wear out at 30,000 miles before) they wants $1250 Plus fluids. I bought my after market plates and took the day and did it myself. $400. This is how the pricing is, I might as well own a Ducati but I cannot work on Ducati so there is the problem. Love my Trumpet, great fun. Buy another? Doubtful. (Oh and the HD is much cheaper to have serviced and or get parts for.)
I bought a MT-09 SP last year. It was my dream bike until reality hit me. Like we say "dream bike" often we dont realize how it actually will be when we ride it. That bike was not for me definitly. Traded it in for a KTM 690 supermoto and i love it. Fits my riding style more and its really light. After this supermoto i might go for a speed twin 1200 in the next few years. Cheers !
It's a bit complicated to get used to ride the Scrambler 1200 in the dirt. Compared to other adventure bikes it makes it a little bit harder in the slow maneuvers, because it's high center of gravity(classic design), weight and it's not quite ergonomic to grab it with the knees. But which adventure bike is more beautiful than this one? it's unique in the market. Sorry to hear that you are selling it mate, hopefully you can get it back later.
Well done for being honest. It's easy to be sucked in by marketing. I love the look of the 1200 but would only consider it as a road bike. And with the state of UK roads it'd do a great job.
I love my scrambler - but I never take it off road. Heavy beast makes no sense. I ride MTBs off road and get plenty pleasure from that. I’ve put road tyres on mine and absolutely love it: it’s like a monster super moto - so much fun in the twisties. I did however just get a Speed Triple RS for a different type of fun. The scrambler for longer rides / touring and the Soeed Triple for shorter shreds in the mountains. Both amazing machines while being very different.
My off roader is 90 kg.!! 250 cc 2 stroke ktm Freeride. I'd recommend it, but it would be too small for you. However, a nice Honda CRF250R would be perfect.
Props for being honest about what works best for you! I'm looking to get a DRZ as well to learn on, as someone that's now owned both a DRZ and a 1200XE could you see yourself going back to it in a few years with more off road experience so that it really is that 1 bike that does it all? I'm kind of hoping after the DRZ I i can pick that dream bike that's all you need in the garage but it sounds like maybe the 1200XE is maybe a bit too much of a liability cost wise?
Sorry to hear that you're selling/sold it that said your decision factors make total sense. If my insurance ever over doubles on my Thruxton RS I'd consider selling it as well. Regarding repairs, I do most things my self however the major services cost about $450-550 where I live. I'm actually hoping you land with two bikes next. Maybe a Scrambler 400 and a dirt bike?
@@Willieswheelsbro I loved your review on Bonneville t120 . I thought you would be getting that ,now you said it yourself 😂. It's a great looking old school bike loved it ❤
Man I'm paying 1650 for a Benelli TRK 502 in London. Insurance premiums are definitely insane, but 1400 for a Scrambler 1200 you still have it alright.
It's a shame to hear that! I'm planing to get Scrambler XE soon as a dirt machine, as my dirt bike was stolen recently after 3 years of learning how to ride green lanes. I believe with this intermediate experience, it will be a different story than learning from a beginning on a big 230kg machine. Regarding repairs, after two services of my Tiger 1200 in dealership around London, I've found a mechanic that was working for Triumph for 14 years, is 50% cheaper, a lot more reliable and more trustworthy than any dealer I'll ever know. Will never service a motorcycle in a dealership again unless it's to keep the warranty for the first 2/3 years.
Ah, sorry you experienced theft. That is terrible. Yea I’m sure you’re more than qualified to get the best of it. If you’re interested mines still for sale! 🥲
Insurance is a big scam. My car and homeowners insurance went up 40% this year for no reason. I've got a 1200 XC but haven't called my insurance yet, because it's Winter now and I probably won't be riding until Spring. Wonder how the 900cc Triumph would fare insurance wise. Don't tell the insurance agent that you're commuting in London though, jeez. It's like the home of thieves from what I understand.
Nice video - it is easy to be seduced by the manufacturers videos (as you said yourself). I have a 690 enduro, I take that off road and that can feel big. But, I've chucked it down the side of a mountain, dragged it out at the bottom and rode off....plastic... (i did break the SW motech engine bar... cheap shit). However. whenever I see a 1200 scrambler advert .... I want one .....
I Went from a 690.to 1200 scrambler...i got tired of the 690's instability at high freeway speed, with any wind gust blowing me around. I found the scrambler just as good off road (not too technical stuff) despite the weight. I bought a klx 250 for more technical dual sport riding... Great, little and much lighter than the 690. The klx is surprisingly smooth at 75 on the freeway (actually more stable than the ktm!). I'm thinking the Tuareg 660 is my next bike. It's an ugly duck but everyone says it's the unicorn. Keeping the scrambler because it's so much fun in town, stable at high speeds and looks like a super model 😂..
Completly understand your situation. Yep a dirt bike is gonna get banged up off-road-especially if you go hard and mud/tight trails are involved..... You will fall off.The bikes can take it. There is no way in Hell I would Take that Triumph or its equivalent out in anything more than a gravel road. All The advertising that show these bikes out there doing it is utter bull shit.
Now you can get the Triumph Scrambler 1200X… this is not an off-road bike… I would get a Husquarna for that if I would be you.. but that bike is very high too… this 1200XE however gets you everywhere… I got three Triumphs and this bike is great
that was the most depressing video about a scrambler no offense..." I just cant justify it..." YOU ARE FREAKING ALIVE MATE that's about all the justification you need!
I was afraid I will have the same issue as the insurance scampany send me the same "we won't" letter. Fortunately though I ended up with paying less elswhere
Can I suggest the new Honda CB650R not for off road but for your daily bike they are really affordable super reliable and so much fun to ride plenty of power for everything you need on the Uk roads. And just keep the enduro bike you have now😃🤷♂️. My Honda has never let me down.
Yes. Obviously, there's no flaw in the bike. The problem is the idea that any 500 pound bike belongs off-road, whether it's a scrambler, adventure bike, or whatever. How absurd.
It's when you break bones off road great video, Road Bike NC750x DCT off rd DRZ400 or Honda Scrambler, but I'm older than you I will be finishing my rebuild on KLE500 30 years old cost 1K cheap to fix👍👍👍
I think it was unrealistic to take a premium bike off road as a novice without costing an arm and a leg. Defo done the right thing selling on. Plus London sucks…
One bike can do pretty much all of it, it is only the rider holding it back. I am 3 inches shorter than you, and just take it easy if height becomes any worry.@@Willieswheels
Mate, all bikes are expensive to fix. If you really want a scare get a Harley, Ducati or BMW. I've had my bike (same as yours) for 3 years and 35000k and no probs. Commute to work on it and ride it on light off road on the weekends. Sorry to hear of your problems but bikes are bikes and they break down. Maybe do a maintenance course?
Very true. I’m probably more handy than most on maintenance but the radiator was a real bi*** to do, so didn’t fancy it the second time. Everything’s expensive these days 🤷
@@Willieswheels it’s the computer side of it that scares me: that I can’t fix. If I had to choose between the XE with its electronic bells and whistles or my ‘07 Bonnie with carbie and zero aids to get me through the next 30 years it’s the Bonnie.
Completely agree. That being said, the triumph (minus the key being ridiculous) has been trouble free, but 30 years time, I’d join you on the Bonnie mate
The fan corrosion was due to the hike being 4 years old and the radiator, well that’s just bad luck. £865 isn’t bank breaking money let’s be fair. Your insurance is high because you live in the theft capital of Europe or at least commute daily. Im in wales, same bike and commute with 0 no claims and it’s £375. Nice stuff costs money to maintain but I get why you’re selling. With premiums that high you may end of on a Suzuki bandit mate 😂
Just got back from a 6500 mile trip on my old 865 Bonneville. Cheaper and shorter and lighter. Still plenty of power on the highway and way more managable offroad, even with the lower travel and clearance
Getting a 1200cc motorcycle to learn riding on dirt road is rather a bad idea. It would have been better to buy a second hand light and not too powerful motorcycle because you are going to drop the bike quite a few time.
@@Willieswheels around 150kg dry, less than 160kg wet, 40hp, arrow exhaust, spanish suspension, bybre breaks, miechelin anakee wild, engine is realiable (kove 450 rally uses it) zongshen nc450, that is the only chinese part but it is closely built with Fantic. The rest is European, bikes are built in Italy. In fact, the only true scrambler, after excluding bikes around/above 200kg. Pure fun, try. Read about ceo Mariano Roman. Cheers!
Can't insure because it's too nice? And they don't want to risk having to pay for it if it got stolen or damaged? That's crazy. Ummm that's what insurance is for...
So basically this is the point of your whole video.. Triumph scrambler is a badass bike until you fvck it up and when YOU cant afford to fix it then its time to sell it and make a video about it. Thats like buying a Ferrari and it gets a fender bender. you find out the bumper is ridiculously expensive to fix. Now your gonna make a vid about ferrari is just too expensive. Shouldnt buy it in the first place man! Cmon man,... go buy a drz or something.
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I’ve had my scrambler 400 for over a month now and it never fails to put a smile on my face!
Bikes should never be not affordable! Recently learned that with my dreambike 21‘ tuono v4. Everything is so extremly expensive, Service, Parts, Insurance, tires, etc.
Been happier with my 30 year old 60hp Africa Twin 750, which cost me 200€ a year and occasional Parts and Service which i did myself.
Premium bikes are for rich people. As a student im having more fun with older slower cheaper bikes Even though that Thunder tuono has always been my dream bike. Now switching back to 75hp, DIY and low insurance cost to enjoy biking again.
It hurts to let her go, i know that feeling. But you did the right thing. Its all about fun, not headaches.
i'm looking for my first motorcycle since i recently got my A2 licence and thought about buying brand new at first before realizing how much everything other than the bike would cost. Now i'm thinking about either a 400cc bike or an old one that i can learn to ride and fix
Yep. It’s the trend I think, with all the costs of running going up it’s just not feasible to run newer more premium bikes. I think bikes SHOULD be an affordable alternative to driving cars but they’ve evolved far beyond that (at least for new bikes).
I think premium cars are also crazy expensive to fix. My sister lost her key for a late model VW and it cost $1500 to replace!! Like you say, get older stuff you can fix yourself, teach your kids to fix, not freak out if you go off road and drop them, they are often not as powerful so you have less chance of serious accidents, look super cool when done up. I think I’m getting old…
@@ORNG370 A perfect bike, if you like the style, would be the Honda CRF 300 L. Cheap in severance, parts and service and you can drive on and off-road.
I agree 100%! That's is the same with a lot of things in life. Once something is considered by me to be "too expensive to have a go at fixing it myself," then I can't really afford it. I am simply kidding myself and hiding that delusion with credit and cutting back somewhere else.
When I attended off-road riding training the first thing the instructor said was can you pick up your bike at least 3 times, then made us place our bikes down on carpet and essentially pick them up, the other was can you push this bike 1 km (you just ran out of petrol) the last was if you dropped or had a slow down what would you have to do to repair then replace and cost. It changed everything.
That’s a great test! Love that as a starting point. Moved over to a drz400 and could pick that up one handed. Different gravy
I agree with your assessment. Having ridden MX, a heavy mx bike ; a big 4 stroke, is 120kg ish. The XE looks like it would be a mega off road bike, but I found it a tricky ride in the dirt. Same with adventure bikes. 👍🏼👍🏼
Totally agree and BTW I saw your video on the 900 which I agree is much closer to the original concept and just plain cooler all round and is a comfortable alternative even for big blokes like you and me.
I have a 1200XE. and a Rally built KTM 990R. The triumph is an excellent dirt road bike, and even reasonable groomed fire trails. Crosses creeks with ease but feel slightly off when standing on the pegs. That 1200 twin is superb but is only about half a fast as the 990 over rough ground.
I really enjoyed this review. That 1200 scrambler seems like a roucas ride when you twist the wrist and overtake traffic! You're going to have a hard time replacing that part of the experience. My recommendation to those trying to find the right size dual purpose or scrambler motorcycle is to put it down gently and pick it up three times in a row. Now imagine having to pick it up on the low side of a hill and trying to get it back on the trail. I tried the KLR 650, f650 GS, and DR 650. I wouldn't want to have to pick up any of them uphill off the trail. I think the 250 to 350 sizes are plenty, the former getting you to 65 mph and the latrer getting you to about 80 mph. But any 1200 cc twin is going to be a blast man. Again, real life video, well done.
Thanks so much! Yep it’s so true. I miss that torquey 1200 as much as I expected. Maybe one day I’ll get one back.
But this is why bikers have more than one bike because each bike has got its own purpose
To each their own. For me, this bike is a Swiss Army knife. 8 hours on the tarmac to gnarly backwoods, camping remotely, on and off road all around more capable than my 400 dual sport. Multi surface tour across the country? This bike, every time.
I just bought a new Triumph Scrambler 400X here in the States. Seems like a great bike, a very reasonable at $5600 US . 40 HP, water cooled single, pretty smooth, handles well on the road. At 395 pounds it is not a single tracker, at least not for me but it should do well on forest service dirt roads. This should sell very well for Triumph. Lighter and more HP than the Royal Enfield Himalayan.
Dude, I love mine 🤙🏻
Just picked mine up today. Traded my Tiger 900 RP in. I wanted something light again for the small roads I mainly do.
Just got mine a couple weeks ago. Finally took it up a fire road with ruts and rocks, did great! Rear wheel only broke loose when I asked it to, otherwise very stable and easy to handle.
I came from dirt bikes so it's a bit heavier than those, but by no means too heavy for some light off roading. So much fun!
Love it. I had one on a test and it was a cracking ride, well put together and looks wicked. Felt like a 1200’s younger sibling!
Got a 400X last month. Such a great bike. You'd never believe that one can have this much fun on a bike with 40 hp, but it pulls great and easily reaches all the legal speeds you'd need. And it looks great to boot. ^^
Having had the same experiences and needs as you (and also having been fortunate enough to own a scrambler 1200 myself)… I ended up moving on to a Tuareg 660. Never been happier, looks aside vs the 1200.
400x is great off road and on road...I'm 220lbs, and love it on the more rough jeep trails and secondary roads...it's super light and stable at low speeds, ABS and traction control are really nice on gravel, but you can turn it off and go nuts, too. I probably beat on it a bit too hard but it's holding up quite well, albeit only at 1200 miles so far. It goes 60-80 MPH no problem, around 90 it's about done. It will wheelie over hills if you aren't careful with the throttle the way it's geared :) I came from a Street Triple after years of riding Harleys and Hondas. The Striple was a bit too much for me, and the 400x just scratches the itch without making me want to do really stupid things.
I really appreciate your honesty about the financial side of riding.
Last year, after owning an BMW RnineT, different Ducati und Harley-Davidson models, i sold my Monster 1200s. I initially wanted to take a break from riding but then discovered the Royal Enfield 650s models. I ended up buying an almost new Continental GT, modified it a bit and have so much fun since then. They are pretty affordable compared to what you get...love this bike more than previous bikes i own and which were 2-3 times more expensive.
So maybe just have look...downgrading can be fun 🙂
Some good points, I went for a 650 Int, Would you have considered an 865 bonneville/thruxton? I went for mine as it was newer and still had some warranty left. So far it’s been really reliable.
@@Nick_B1978 No i haven't considered a Triumph last year. I 've been attracted by the Interceptor and the 350 classic and finally bought the Continental after a test ride and falling in love with the cafe racer look.
But at the moment i think about saving some money and add the 1200 X/ XC or XE for my 50th Birthday in about 3 years.
So....being smart and reasonable just doesn't last that long, i guess. 🙂
Best Regards from Germany!
Thanks for the encouragement! I agree, I love riding the most and that won’t change. I’m ok with it (maybe regret later down the line but I need to look after my family first)
Yes, agreed, I have one too and to me, its off-road capability for the average rider is at most gravel trail/fire road with no difficulty. I'll take it to Salisbury plains to scratch that offroad itch of mine and will ride with a trail riding guide company who provide small dual sport rentals.
Great video and very good point! I downsized from massive bikes to a Yamaha XT250. I now have one season riding it everywhere, but mostly offroad including some extremely rough places. I've had the most fun on a bike! I learned a lot not just how to ride offroad, but how to ride - I'm a much safer rider now (though I've been riding for decades). Try a light dual sport - you may love it!
I love that. Thanks for the comment! Yep I’m on a DRZ on the lanes and it is so much fun, reliable and light. Winner!
The bike is awesome looking! I'm saving for a scrambler 900 - for me I feel it will be the perfect balance of size and cost
I’ve had a number of DRZ’s and yes they’re good off road substitutes for a dirt bike that can go on road. But needed a better/bigger road bike with six gears, which means you’re paying for two bikes. I just sold my DRZ and triumph street triple and got a scrambler 1200xe. I love the bike and it gives me new challenges riding it off road, which is what I needed as an experienced rider.
I think the scrambler is not the right choice for a novice rider on or more importantly off road. You said it yourself, great video.
I love that Scrambler! Bless you for making this video, it's hard to part with something so loveable, but it sounds like you made the right decision. I raced motorcross as a kid, and I've gotten back into it now with my son (I'm 36). Answer might not be on road! I'm sure the DRZ is fun on the trails, but you should try a proper motorcross track if you get the chance. Takes a lot of guts but would be great to see you on there.
I'm eyeing off the '24 Svartpilen for another road bike. I had the '21 model and love it, but like you've talked about here, doing things in a financially responsible way is really important. Loved this video, first I've seen of you. Can't wait to see what you end up on!
Thanks! I’m hoping to get on some enduro / motocross tracks this year. You’re right it’s so different I’m proper anxious 😅
Switch to the Scrambler 900 for road! Same vibe and feeling but for the road. I just got one and im in love with it. As you said, you will still have your DRZ for enduro dual sport stuff!
Thanks for the honesty,I was plannimg to buy a Triumph too but now I will have to look at spare part prices.
Most of the higher end brands are all expensive to be honest 🫠
It’s a scrambler in name only unless you are bloody good and very experienced off road, keep it and get a cheap Honda XR 250 for off road (other off road bikes are available)
I admire your honesty.
I just had the same issue happen to me! The fan bracket broke ripping up the back of the radiator causing a catastrophic coolant overheat on the road back home.
Agh, I feel your pain. Not a cheap fix either!
Great video mate. I own one just because of the crank’s firing order which makes an amazing sound and seating position, being 6”4’ it’s difficult to find a bike that I can fit on. Quickly realised that the premium suspension that has been equipped with is just not up to the task, very expensive parts as you already mentioned and to be honest who wants to take a £13k bike offroad where there’s a huge chance of dropping and damaging it
Agree all round Dan. Such a sound though, I really will miss it. Very refreshing finding a bike that properly fits though hey 🥲
Same reasons I'm actually fancying A2 compliant bikes, 48hp is more than enough unless you ride 80% highway with a pillion, way lighter so easier to pick up, way better fuel economy, way cheaper to 1. Buy, 2. Insure, 3. Repair. The biggest downside is losing out on exhaust note as they're either thumpers or 180 twins, no juicy 270 or 90° sound.
I think CF moto's new MT450 has a parallel twin with a 270° crank and sounds really good ! I don't know about their reliability and labour cost as they're pretty new but I think it's worth checking it out.
@ORNG370 Yeah, I've seen the reviews of them, definitely great value, especially if you're a home mechanic. They do sound amazing, and reliability is probably on par with KTM so I genuinely wouldn't be too worried. Ain't a Honda, but with that price tag, you don't expect it to be. Loaded with tech as well, I really hope they'll make a scrambler version soon. We'll also see the Royal Enfield Scram 450 in the near future, so the A2 scrambler market will get a nice addition to the Scrambler 400x and (S)CL500. Really exited for this market shift!
Enfield twins is everything you need, juicy 270, cheap to buy, cheap to run, reliable 👍
@@CaseyJones88 yeah, the new Himalayan looks promising
Agreed. This mid tier is the place to look
I bought the Speed Twin 2021 in red really flew of at 8000km and smashed the thing and me^^ And bought a 2022 Speed Twin with Jekyll n Hyde exhaust after that^^
Speed Twin is my bike i will allways own. Such a good bike. Can do it all for me
Sheesh that insurance cost is highway robbery. I have a 2019 scrambler XE but live in the states. My dad and I have our bikes on the same plan to cut down on the cost with a group plan. Its only about 200$ a year for it.
That’s an amazing price! Yep sadly theft is mostly un-investigated here and it’s very common, cost of repair also recently rocketed so they’re passing on the cost to us. Sucks.
Love the 1200XE. Works great for me in the city, on the twisties, up dirt roads, and on occasional off-road motocamping trips. Yes, could be expensive if ya break stuff but anyone who buys this bike knows that unless head up your bum.
Go with a gently used Tiger 800 or newer 900. You won’t regret it. My back-up choice would be the Scrambler 900 but they’re just as heavy if not more so, and they do not point into the turn like a tiger. The Tigers are a work of art, and insurance friendly. I ride a 2016 Tiger 800XR (with some tasteful off-road mods) and have been very pleased.
Agreed I loved the tiger when I rode one for a bit. Doesn’t tickle in the looks/experience department for me though
@@Willieswheels agree. Hard to beat the scrambler look. But you can drastically upgrade the Tiger “experience” with an aftermarket exhaust. I went with a Max Torque Can out of England, which looks great in different finishes and sounds very close to the thunderous Akrapovic growl with the baffle removed, for 1/3 the price.
That sounds sick! I love the triple sound paired with the tigers tweaked firing order, it’s wicked fun and yet still super smooth.
When you're kicking back in your digital armchair and comparing bikes, it's easy to get lost in the marketing hype. But diving deep into real-world reviews and footage reveals the truth: the Scrambler 1200 XE, while a beast in its own right, just can't dance on tight, gnarly trails like the Husqvarna 701 Enduro.
So, forget the glossy brochures for a second. Watch the dirt fly. See how each bike handles the rough stuff. That's the real litmus test, and it's clear that the 701's nimble agility and off-road DNA shine through where the Scrambler's heft holds it back.
Don't get me wrong, both bikes are awesome, but it's all about choosing the right tool for the job. And if hardcore single-track adventures are your jam, the visual evidence speaks volumes.
You can change the fan without removing the radiator hoses in about 30 minutes. I had to change mine because a rock bounced off my leg and landed in the fan housing and stopped the fan, i bought a used one off of Ebay for $60.00, it would have been a nightmare to have to undo all those hoses and then somehow clamp them back on.
How did you do it?? I couldn’t for the life of me work it out
@@Willieswheels unbolt the top and slide the bottom off the tab, unbolt the fan housing from the radiator and pull the bottom from the frame while twisting the fan out. It was super tight and a bitch to wrestle with, but didn't take that long to swap out.
Dude, why go off-road without protection? I've had the opposite experience. I’ve installed top and bottom crash bars, barkbusters, and a subframe for the exhaust. Now, it looks like a bike from a zombie apocalypse. Additionally, I bought an axe to clear fallen trees blocking the trail.
Yes, it’s heavy, but I can lift it alone, even with a 60 liter backpack on it (my weight is 150 lbs). It’s my versatile, do-it-all bike that I ride daily - offroad, in the city, and on the freeway. I absolutely love its performance. Plus, I only pay around $140 USD per year for insurance.
I’ll put it down to being an idiot and or lazy. Lesson learned I’m now fully armoured up on my DRZ on the lanes!
I've been riding off road for nearly 40 years and I've just bought a 1200 Scrambler (not an XE) but for road use only. My enduro bike is at least as high as an XE but over 100kg lighter with way better suspension and even that can sometimes be a handful in the dirt. It's also crap on the road. It all depends how high you set the bar but there's no such thing as a do it all bike, it's just compromise.
I like the look and the feel and the overall ride of the classic scramblers on the road but I'm under no illusions as to their limitations.
The harsh reality of it is that the 900 Scrambler is actually a better all round bike. Nobody in the UK thrashes these bikes down green lanes at 70 mph, they are doing 25mph at best so the shorter suspension doesn't matter. And BTW I am speaking as a RTW rider who spends a lot of time in the serious dirt for which I wouldn't chose any of them in preference to a real lightweight dirt bike if time was the factor v fun being the main motivation which brings it back to the 900. A bike with better looks and a much nicer soundtrack. Check out Darcy and the Ol Man's video on it. He is a big chap like me, but fits it fine and I agree with his comment that the 900 is closer to the true concept of the Scrambler.
I was going to mention the Scrambler 900 myself. A great all-rounder, for sure. And relatively great value for money, imho. All the best.
Yea I completely agree with you there mate. All apart from the sound being better, I still think the 1200 is a cut above, it’s like thunder!
For those of us 6'4 and over the Street Scrambler is too small, the 1200 XE perfect. 👌
@@andrewkitchenuk 100% ! Possibly one of the most comfortable bikes Triumph make for taller people, apart from the annoying side pipe but that can be modified or replaced by a low pipe.
Naw I’ve switched from the 900 to the 12 and it’s a step up no matter which way you look
Owning a 2012 Scrambler 900 ( as well as a an HD) I can attest that Trumpeter parts are ridiculously expensive. 1at off the dealerships can charge whatever they want, my closest dealer is also a BMW dealer, everything is BMW prices (Oil filters I buy online form a dealer out of state that sells them for what the book says, I bought 8 of them a few years back) . The clutch needed changing, to have them install a new OEM clutch (I wanted Aftermarket as I never had a clutch wear out at 30,000 miles before) they wants $1250 Plus fluids. I bought my after market plates and took the day and did it myself. $400. This is how the pricing is, I might as well own a Ducati but I cannot work on Ducati so there is the problem. Love my Trumpet, great fun. Buy another? Doubtful. (Oh and the HD is much cheaper to have serviced and or get parts for.)
I bought a MT-09 SP last year. It was my dream bike until reality hit me. Like we say "dream bike" often we dont realize how it actually will be when we ride it. That bike was not for me definitly. Traded it in for a KTM 690 supermoto and i love it. Fits my riding style more and its really light. After this supermoto i might go for a speed twin 1200 in the next few years. Cheers !
Nice! Yea it’s a constant process and I always find my riding changes over the years, so there’s always a different itch to scratch.
£1400 for bike insurance is crazy dude, it’s more than my car insurance, and I got comprehensive with collision!
New bikes are never as much fun as cheaper used ones ! You are moving up to the next level of your biking journey, enjoy it.
Thanks Gren! I agree.
It's a bit complicated to get used to ride the Scrambler 1200 in the dirt. Compared to other adventure bikes it makes it a little bit harder in the slow maneuvers, because it's high center of gravity(classic design), weight and it's not quite ergonomic to grab it with the knees. But which adventure bike is more beautiful than this one? it's unique in the market. Sorry to hear that you are selling it mate, hopefully you can get it back later.
Well done for being honest. It's easy to be sucked in by marketing. I love the look of the 1200 but would only consider it as a road bike. And with the state of UK roads it'd do a great job.
It’s smooth as butter through pot holes etc. just seems a shame to have such a capable machine and not utilise it
I love my scrambler - but I never take it off road. Heavy beast makes no sense. I ride MTBs off road and get plenty pleasure from that. I’ve put road tyres on mine and absolutely love it: it’s like a monster super moto - so much fun in the twisties.
I did however just get a Speed Triple RS for a different type of fun. The scrambler for longer rides / touring and the Soeed Triple for shorter shreds in the mountains.
Both amazing machines while being very different.
Oh man that sounds like the perfect setup to be honest! Enjoy it mate
Loving it - mountains of Japan are amazing. Winding roads for hundreds of kilometres and not that many cars
Phwoar. Dream, can I come visit 😅
My off roader is 90 kg.!! 250 cc 2 stroke ktm Freeride. I'd recommend it, but it would be too small for you. However, a nice Honda CRF250R would be perfect.
Props for being honest about what works best for you! I'm looking to get a DRZ as well to learn on, as someone that's now owned both a DRZ and a 1200XE could you see yourself going back to it in a few years with more off road experience so that it really is that 1 bike that does it all? I'm kind of hoping after the DRZ I i can pick that dream bike that's all you need in the garage but it sounds like maybe the 1200XE is maybe a bit too much of a liability cost wise?
Who here thinks insurance is a massive f@cking scam… and maybe look at the new Triumph 400 scrambler?
Insurance is the worst, until you need it. But then your premium rockets and you end up paying for it in the long run - I hate it.
The insurance company probably saw your awesome videos ripping at high speeds through London and said no way we can insure this guy.
0% chance that’s true.
Never Say never@@Willieswheels
That high front fender is sick.
Sorry to hear that you're selling/sold it that said your decision factors make total sense. If my insurance ever over doubles on my Thruxton RS I'd consider selling it as well. Regarding repairs, I do most things my self however the major services cost about $450-550 where I live. I'm actually hoping you land with two bikes next. Maybe a Scrambler 400 and a dirt bike?
Yea it’s just got to that stage where I cant sustain it sadly. I’ve got the DRZ and moving to an older Bonnie for the town. Hoping it works out well!
@@Willieswheelsbro I loved your review on Bonneville t120 . I thought you would be getting that ,now you said it yourself 😂. It's a great looking old school bike loved it ❤
For an older 865 Bonneville you could get a nearly new Interceptor with less miles 😊
I’m thinking T100 at the moment, don’t need a 1200 for my type of riding currently
I’ve had a look at T100’s and even the 865’s seem to be over £4K, nicer ones nearer to £5k
Man I'm paying 1650 for a Benelli TRK 502 in London. Insurance premiums are definitely insane, but 1400 for a Scrambler 1200 you still have it alright.
1650?! That’s wild. I’m sorry dude.
It's a shame to hear that! I'm planing to get Scrambler XE soon as a dirt machine, as my dirt bike was stolen recently after 3 years of learning how to ride green lanes. I believe with this intermediate experience, it will be a different story than learning from a beginning on a big 230kg machine.
Regarding repairs, after two services of my Tiger 1200 in dealership around London, I've found a mechanic that was working for Triumph for 14 years, is 50% cheaper, a lot more reliable and more trustworthy than any dealer I'll ever know. Will never service a motorcycle in a dealership again unless it's to keep the warranty for the first 2/3 years.
Ah, sorry you experienced theft. That is terrible. Yea I’m sure you’re more than qualified to get the best of it. If you’re interested mines still for sale! 🥲
Insurance is a big scam. My car and homeowners insurance went up 40% this year for no reason. I've got a 1200 XC but haven't called my insurance yet, because it's Winter now and I probably won't be riding until Spring. Wonder how the 900cc Triumph would fare insurance wise. Don't tell the insurance agent that you're commuting in London though, jeez. It's like the home of thieves from what I understand.
Nice video - it is easy to be seduced by the manufacturers videos (as you said yourself). I have a 690 enduro, I take that off road and that can feel big. But, I've chucked it down the side of a mountain, dragged it out at the bottom and rode off....plastic... (i did break the SW motech engine bar... cheap shit). However. whenever I see a 1200 scrambler advert .... I want one .....
I Went from a 690.to 1200 scrambler...i got tired of the 690's instability at high freeway speed, with any wind gust blowing me around. I found the scrambler just as good off road (not too technical stuff) despite the weight. I bought a klx 250 for more technical dual sport riding... Great, little and much lighter than the 690. The klx is surprisingly smooth at 75 on the freeway (actually more stable than the ktm!). I'm thinking the Tuareg 660 is my next bike. It's an ugly duck but everyone says it's the unicorn. Keeping the scrambler because it's so much fun in town, stable at high speeds and looks like a super model 😂..
Completly understand your situation. Yep a dirt bike is gonna get banged up off-road-especially if you go hard and mud/tight trails are involved..... You will fall off.The bikes can take it. There is no way in Hell I would Take that Triumph or its equivalent out in anything more than a gravel road. All The advertising that show these bikes out there doing it is utter bull shit.
Oh man. And I just watched the what you love about it video
Now you can get the Triumph Scrambler 1200X… this is not an off-road bike… I would get a Husquarna for that if I would be you.. but that bike is very high too… this 1200XE however gets you everywhere… I got three Triumphs and this bike is great
that was the most depressing video about a scrambler no offense..." I just cant justify it..." YOU ARE FREAKING ALIVE MATE that's about all the justification you need!
I was afraid I will have the same issue as the insurance scampany send me the same "we won't" letter. Fortunately though I ended up with paying less elswhere
That’s great! I’m so glad you got sorted.
Can I suggest the new Honda CB650R not for off road but for your daily bike they are really affordable super reliable and so much fun to ride plenty of power for everything you need on the Uk roads. And just keep the enduro bike you have now😃🤷♂️. My Honda has never let me down.
I’ll check it out! Haven’t had any experience on Hondas apart from doing my test on a hornet. Was a great bike just lacked any character I felt.
At least you try it, its the real only way to know
Such a shame, however looking forward to see what your next bike will be 🤔
Thank you 🙏🏻
Yes. Obviously, there's no flaw in the bike. The problem is the idea that any 500 pound bike belongs off-road, whether it's a scrambler, adventure bike, or whatever. How absurd.
Right place & right rider this thing will shred. Not me though 🥲 I’m loving riding a DRZ now
Insurance is an absolute scam. There’s just no justification what so ever to double your premium when you haven’t made a claim or been in an accident.
Welcome to the Royal Enfield Family
Bro, get the Scrambler 400x, fun, lightweight, cheap to maintain and cut out of the same Triumph cloth. You'll have plenty fun with it.
Thanks for the tip
Sounds great
My main issue is that it burns a hole in my leg, a decat is essential.
Height is not whats wrong with it, weight is. A enduro is high too, but it weights way less
It's when you break bones off road great video, Road Bike NC750x DCT off rd DRZ400 or Honda Scrambler, but I'm older than you I will be finishing my rebuild on KLE500 30 years old cost 1K cheap to fix👍👍👍
I think it was unrealistic to take a premium bike off road as a novice without costing an arm and a leg. Defo done the right thing selling on. Plus London sucks…
Agreed. Probably foolish to think one bike can do it all. Lesson learned!
One bike can do pretty much all of it, it is only the rider holding it back. I am 3 inches shorter than you, and just take it easy if height becomes any worry.@@Willieswheels
Now you know why they fit inadequate mudguards.
Mate, all bikes are expensive to fix. If you really want a scare get a Harley, Ducati or BMW. I've had my bike (same as yours) for 3 years and 35000k and no probs. Commute to work on it and ride it on light off road on the weekends. Sorry to hear of your problems but bikes are bikes and they break down. Maybe do a maintenance course?
Very true. I’m probably more handy than most on maintenance but the radiator was a real bi*** to do, so didn’t fancy it the second time. Everything’s expensive these days 🤷
@@Willieswheels it’s the computer side of it that scares me: that I can’t fix. If I had to choose between the XE with its electronic bells and whistles or my ‘07 Bonnie with carbie and zero aids to get me through the next 30 years it’s the Bonnie.
Completely agree. That being said, the triumph (minus the key being ridiculous) has been trouble free, but 30 years time, I’d join you on the Bonnie mate
The fan corrosion was due to the hike being 4 years old and the radiator, well that’s just bad luck. £865 isn’t bank breaking money let’s be fair. Your insurance is high because you live in the theft capital of Europe or at least commute daily. Im in wales, same bike and commute with 0 no claims and it’s £375. Nice stuff costs money to maintain but I get why you’re selling. With premiums that high you may end of on a Suzuki bandit mate 😂
Agreed. It’s a bitter pill to swallow but there we are.
Try a Moto guzzi v7. Not powerful, but full of character and sound. Relatively reliable.
I will try to find one! Thanks for the tip.
It started with the GS. Might be ok on fire roads in the States but in english mud no chance. Buy a crappy cheap 125 to learn to ride off road.
Yea, ive got a 400, it’s wicked off road!
Just got back from a 6500 mile trip on my old 865 Bonneville. Cheaper and shorter and lighter. Still plenty of power on the highway and way more managable offroad, even with the lower travel and clearance
too many people are being conned by sales blurb , being told that scamblers e.t.c. can do serious off road ,, this is unsafe nonsense ;;
Getting a 1200cc motorcycle to learn riding on dirt road is rather a bad idea. It would have been better to buy a second hand light and not too powerful motorcycle because you are going to drop the bike quite a few time.
Yep! I quickly realised that mistake 😅
buy Fantic Caballero 500 Rally 2024
Good shout. Never seen one in the flesh!
@@Willieswheels around 150kg dry, less than 160kg wet, 40hp, arrow exhaust, spanish suspension, bybre breaks, miechelin anakee wild, engine is realiable (kove 450 rally uses it) zongshen nc450, that is the only chinese part but it is closely built with Fantic. The rest is European, bikes are built in Italy. In fact, the only true scrambler, after excluding bikes around/above 200kg. Pure fun, try. Read about ceo Mariano Roman. Cheers!
It comes to as all I’m afraid. Get a second hand GS. I think 1200 or 1150 is best.
Idk why people think this is a dirt bike. Even 650 dual sports aren’t great. Have a road bike and a dirt bike. Simple
Getting so bored with small reviewers of big adventure bikes moaning about how high they are. For us man sized riders the taller the seat the better.
Men aren’t universal size. What a dumb comment
The man in the video (Willie) is six foot three. Are you trying to say that he is a "small reviewer"? Or has there been a wire crossed here somewhere?
not once did he mention that the seat height was a problem. Are you restarded?
That's very cold.of you😂
@@Willieswheels
Getting rid of it because of one MAJOR flaw..... im a short little bitch.
How did you not realize that during the test drive😂😂
You wanted to learn off-roading on that bike? 😂
😂 yup
The reason for those who want to know: MONEY $$$ is the reason he sold it.
Sounds like a bonneville t120 or t100 lol
Same engine basically 🤘🏻
triumph speed twin 1200
Can't insure because it's too nice? And they don't want to risk having to pay for it if it got stolen or damaged? That's crazy. Ummm that's what insurance is for...
Exactly. It’s gone bonkers!
I saw you cut that truck off 😡 lol
Yea I apologised
@@Willieswheelsmay the universe bless you
And you
The new Transalp, bro
Those bikes are not meant for off-road use , no matter how they are marketed. Much too heavy
SO DISAPOINTMANET, i SO LOVELY LIKE SCREMBLER 1200, wHY DIY YOU DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why i hAd riend your ttube, thats why i want you to watch you to ride scrambler xe
So¡!!@@@@!!!!!!disappointed
It is what it is. I love riding, more than any machine I might be on
Just because it's called a scrambler doesn't mean it will be good off road !, it's a retro bike ! Buy a Ktm/ bmw
Correct!
The bike isnt too heavy, you're too weak.
Change country
I’d love to to be honest
Insurance???? U on crack???? I pay 300 for a bike double the price.
Not on crack just live in a city where bike thefts are far too common 😅
I've never seen one of these bikes but never wanted one or any triumph. I figure they are like harley, you pay excessively for the name.
So basically this is the point of your whole video..
Triumph scrambler is a badass bike until you fvck it up and when YOU cant afford to fix it then its time to sell it and make a video about it.
Thats like buying a Ferrari and it gets a fender bender. you find out the bumper is ridiculously expensive to fix. Now your gonna make a vid about ferrari is just too expensive.
Shouldnt buy it in the first place man!
Cmon man,... go buy a drz or something.
Yooo the whole one handed riding thing is really throwing me off. Seems wildly unsafe and amateur. Keep your hands on the bars!
@@BIBuildyadvocating for responsible riding is ignorant?? Ok 🤡🤡
All I see here is a great bike being castigated by a lazy fool.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Boo hoo