Proud to be here in FL, you guys seriously do amazing work. I have your fender eliminator kit with rear tail light for 2020 Ninja 650 thing was like plug n play! Works amazingly too. I recommend TST to everyone I can. Honestly the one thing that sold me on TST is when I was first ordering my parts in the special instructions part I put something along the lines of "If you guys have any extra stickers around feel free to put them in!" and i was given like 15 stickers lol they were sick. Good job, TST.
ah damn...we have to come up with a "sick" sticker just for you. We have severap people ask for some sweet stickers so we made stickers that said "sweet." I am so glad that you are enjoying the parts you bought from us. We put a lot of effort into developing them (...and stickers of course). Keep it safe man...see you out there!
I just picked up a 2020 SF grom last week cuz I just cannot stand the look of this gen haha. I love the grom and looks wise second gen is my favorite for sure!! No regrets on this decision. Brand new 0 miles and got the color I want. The ghost gears ⚙️ gear indicator and the 5th gear are all nice however if you know how to shift by sound etc then I think I’ll be alright.
I agree bro....I have a red 2020 and just love the style looks sooo good with pro taper bars and a new seat I just got...love this little thing...I ride this more than I rode a 2016 Suzuki gsx-s 1000 I used to have😝
Agreed. As well, the one from the side. I like wide shots establishing location throughout - and good directors seem to use that a lot: so take notes TST.
Speaking on going into neutral it is a little difficult but all you have to do is roll a bit in first or second then go to neutral or when pulling up to a light in gear you can always click down into neutral smoothly
Oil change WITH a filter change will be rad! And also, oversized oil filter adapter will be rad too, extra oil, extra filtration area! preferably KN 303 type filter , space withstanding
I thought the "ghost gear" was like a slip or the gearing was too light to slide into gear? So you'd have to release the clutch then pull it back in and shift down when that happens.
I am 53 yrs old and thinking about getting one. Back in my kids MX days they all had 110's to piss around on and I miss cruising the neighborhood on one. I can get this and do it legally . I dont really like the look of the 2022 and also dont like the green/orange of the 2020 but thats all the dealers have in my area.
I'm age 43, and looking for my first real bike. I do not feel comfortable with Clutch/Gear shifting. Only have ridden for a few year the Piaggio Beverly 350, which is already a strong ride. However, I do consider the GROM as my entrance bike to get comfortable and confident with the shiftings, then upgrade to a bigger one, keeping the Grom as a fun bike. Thanks for the Video. It encouraged me to get one myself. 👍
@@TSTindustries As a responsible and safe rider, you’re supposed to come to a complete stop to click into neutral. And how about a kit to raise the bike’s overall height to make it an ADV motorcycle?
If i have to wait to buy around Aug 1st, is there gonna be a wait? Or any other things to consider? I don't mind waiting if i have to but would like to know and if theres anything else buying around beginning of Aug would possibly incur. Thanks!
Have one one order for wife’s first bike. Let me know what you have for new rider parts (sliders, etc). She’s more stoked for her Grom than I am for my Chief DH, although it looks like I’ll be getting mine first. We’ve been told June for the Grom. Lame to wait that long into the very short riding season here but seems to be worth the wait. Thanks for the review!
We currently have a specific model listing for the third gen Grom and all the parts we currently have are listed. As we continue development, more parts will be added in. tstindustries.com/honda-msx-125-grom-2022/
Good review! I bought a wolf stryker last fall and love it but am wondering what grom parts will fit. I haven’t been able to find much on it. For what i paid i wish i woulda got a real grom.
I wish your message would reach more people out there. Your experience with that off brand should be broadcast to all the people considering that and something like Grom or Z125.
@@TSTindustries thank you for the reply. New subscriber looking forward to catching up on your older videos and what you have to come. You seem very knowledgable and well spoken on the subject.
@@xorbe2 hmm... that's pretty strange that it would have a different computer than a US version. It'd be pretty weird if we were unable to switch to kph in the US. Every digital display I've seen allows you to switch it. Who knows 🤷♂️ lol
Hey I’m 6,3 and I’m still growing! Can someone tell me if this would be a good investment for me or should I just go all out and like a 600cc super bike???
I've had big bikes and I will say I'm passionate about these smaller bikes there awsome..I have a bum leg from a motorcycle acident so the flat seat helps me sit back so my leg can not drag..I'm all messed up. Thus is the first style of bike I've had since being injured .I can handle it good with my issues.. I do want a real honda tho..I ride a clone..its nice but not the same caliber
At TST do you guys do any engine modifications? and if so with the new engine bor and longer stroke are you planning on making new bot kit for engine moding?
No idea on fairing kits but you can check out 77decals on Instagram for vinyl kits. Quite a few parts will transfer right over from previous generations. Check out our website to see product listings.
Big up 77 decals on the kit I have one of his on SF he's a legend. Is there no option to hold button to change reading to MPH like we have on the SF model?
@@TSTindustries ahhh fair enough seems abit of a flaw to have it on older models but not new ones maybe there's a different process to do it with it being a newer style speedo cluster
Is it just me or has the grom gotten taller? I rode a 2014 Grom when I took my Motorcycle Safety Class a couple years ago and it seems like the newer models are getting taller and taller. Maybe it's just me
I liked the 2nd gen headlight better. I own a Z125 pro but always interested in what's going on with the Groms. I do like the 5 speed on this one though.
That was the big sell for me and the new Grom. I was really looking forward to getting a Z125pro as well but I’ve hit 65mph stock on my new Grom and still have 3k rpm before redline with the new 5spd… I’m hoping Kawasaki refreshes the Z soon, it’s due time!
@@lochamabro3638 Things are quite expensive here in Norway, like everything. So i paid 4735$ incl tax. So far, its been a blast. The worst thing, is waiting for the US market to make parts for it because i did know it would take months after putchase to start modding it
12:46 Honda Pacific Coast alert. Are Groms stable at 50 mph? 12'' wheels fill me with dread. As attractive as the bike is, I can't help thinking 14'' or 15'' wheels would make it perfect. Great video, well-presented. I can see why you have 123,000 subscribers. You have one more now. Greetings from a Brit in Thailand.
Yes, at 50 and even 60mph, the Grom feels stable. Once you get to 65+ things can get a little shaky from time to time but this bike handles everything surprisingly well.
@@michaelalphin okay that’s a reassuring reply cause mine does the exact same as yours! Just picked it up and enjoying it so far. Subbed to see your mods!
Deland? Awesome. Bought my first bike from RC Hill Honda there years back. Was just there yesterday on my VTX. I live in Daytona, and currently riding an 05 VTX 1800f, and an 01 Vmax.
Does anyone know an ACTUAL release date/window? I'm going this weekend to inquire and hopefully put down a deposit but I've been checking every day for over a month and still no idea when I'd be able to get my hands on it.
It seems to depend where you are, but I've been told by dealers in my area that they don't even have a way of ordering them and can see what is coming in now - August and there are no 2022 Grom's on shipment. So with the inability to place orders and none being on order, I would expect late summer / fall.
Strange the US delivery is so late. They are already delivered in Europe and we expect the new monkey in August. Of course the SF couldn´t be sold in Europe since januari 1 2021 due to new emission regulations.
Lovit. Hmm ,any information on the 2022 Honda monkey. Torn between the two bikes ,will buy 2022 model, Grom or Monkey. U.K. buyer. Great vid,subscribed 👌🏾🔥👊🏾
Those laws vary from place to pllace so I would suggest you check your local laws. More importantly you should be asking yourself if that is a safe move for yourself. I always suggest that people not mod their vehicles to make them unsafe for their use.
Do you guys have a fender eliminator kit for the 2022 grom? Or does the older version one fit?? I have one coming around late may and really wanna get an eliminator asap.
I’m voting for TST’s products ofc (used them on my OG Grom) but since US are so late out getting the Grom maybe Zeedparts or msx125accessories will have some parts availible for us in the meantime?
@@TSTindustries What's your source on August? Put my deposit down and both Honda and the dealer say late May/early June? I wanna know if they're jivin me around. ;)
@@ianwatches Our local dealership originally said March, then May. Now, they said it may be August before they get them. We put a deposit down so I guess we will wait and see.
is the new 125 stroked engine going to the other models as well , like monkey supercub hunter cub? or will we be cursed with 2 versions of the 125 engine forever?
I’m still not sold on buying the new grom! I like everything but the silly custom holes that makes it look like a toy bike! Il wait to see how people customise it and I might change my mind! 😆
Are the gears shorter? One of my main complaints about the previous groms is how long the gears are, and how shifting up puts you out of the power band-if you can even consider them having one, lol.
I watched a thai video a couple weeks about this. Dude said the gears feel the same, same shift points basically, just a 5th gear at the end for cruising and fuel economy. They've had it for a year already. But no tech specs, just his opinion.
Closer gear ratios in the gearbox mean better performance through turns and other situations. This especially helps if you are racing the little bike because you can make final gear selections easier that suit the track you are at best.
Allow me to educate you on why Honda or any other manufacturer does not change things like suspension often. It is because they have long term contracts for parts, and they cannot just break those contracts. For example, Tokico which sold out to Hitachi a few years ago makes stock shocks for most motorcycles. Here is how the process goes, lets say Honda does a contract with Hitachi to make shocks, well Honda will bring in the machines to make those shocks. The machines are only setup to make a specific size shock, and the machines will cut the tubes, press the bushings, weld the caps etc. So Hitachi will use those machines to just make the specific model shocks they have a contract to make, and that contract cannot just be broken by Honda. Therefore all the shocks Honda gets for the length of that contract will all be the same. That in a nutshell is why the suspension has not changed. It is simply because Honda spends millions to make parts machines, then spends millions more to send those parts machines to factories to have those parts made. It is the exact same reason why a lot of cars today are literally still being made on chassis designed in the 60s and 70s. It is much cheaper to keep using something that works than to change it or create something new.
Oh trust us, we completely understand how the inner workings of mass manufacturing and contracts work. We just figured eventually they would want to upgrade the suspension, especially being that they've reworked the motor for the third gen and even the case covers for the second gen. It's all a numbers game that we understand. Just wishing the cries for that would be heard and addressed.
I think as a fail-safe, yes but until more people get their hands on them, it's tough to tell. I'm sure DHMotoring might be insightful in that department.
None of the bbk kits from the old models will work on the 22+ bikes. The engines are completely different. Biggest big bore you can get for this new one is the 149cc from DHM and it's looking like that's going to be about the limit. The position of the head bolts on the new model really limits how big of a piston you can fit.
There’s really no point in a comparison. The Z125 Pro is outdated and behind the power curve. The Grom has an updated [eco] engine with a 5 speed transmission and replaceable oil filter.
@@TSTindustries Do you think its a good bike to go get some groceries on? Maybe put a large basket on the back with a sign that says, "I'm a grocery getter?"
I’m 6’3” 240 pounds and roll stoppies and hit jumps all day long on stock suspension on my 2018. The suspension can handle more shit then most people demand out of their grom. Suspension change being the first thing you said you would do is almost comical to me sorry haha. Just thought I’d put that out there. Honda is perfection. Change nothing and don’t touch the motor. You’ll wheelie for years with only oil change.
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Wish they would come out with a 250cc factory grom 👍🏆.
250cc 5 speed grom would be literally the perfect motorcycle.
@@charkswitlazers i couldn't agree more 👍.
Imagine a whole lineup of 125, 250, and 450 groms
Or just buy a 170cc bore kit for the grom cause then you would get almost 80mph with it
@@chrismeredith3603 Serious question... Does it the motor maintain that Honda Reliability with a 170 big bore kit?
Glad you mentioned the college campus because that's literally why I got mine. it's perfect for riding around campus and to and from campus.
It just makes so much sense!
Mine was from campus commuting too. Guy graduated and didn’t need it anymore. So I scooped it right up!
I would be nervous about it getting picked up. Do you lock it up?
Would love to see an acceleration/top speed run between the earlier gen Grom and this one. Great video!
I have an acceleration video of it ;)
@@RiptideMX5 no you dont
@@RiptideMX5 no you don't.
Yes, he have
@@Isdahl87 so he finally uploaded it?
Proud to be here in FL, you guys seriously do amazing work. I have your fender eliminator kit with rear tail light for 2020 Ninja 650 thing was like plug n play! Works amazingly too.
I recommend TST to everyone I can.
Honestly the one thing that sold me on TST is when I was first ordering my parts in the special instructions part I put something along the lines of "If you guys have any extra stickers around feel free to put them in!"
and i was given like 15 stickers lol they were sick.
Good job, TST.
ah damn...we have to come up with a "sick" sticker just for you. We have severap people ask for some sweet stickers so we made stickers that said "sweet." I am so glad that you are enjoying the parts you bought from us. We put a lot of effort into developing them (...and stickers of course). Keep it safe man...see you out there!
Just went and put my deposit on a 2022!! Cannot wait!
I just picked up a 2020 SF grom last week cuz I just cannot stand the look of this gen haha. I love the grom and looks wise second gen is my favorite for sure!! No regrets on this decision. Brand new 0 miles and got the color I want. The ghost gears ⚙️ gear indicator and the 5th gear are all nice however if you know how to shift by sound etc then I think I’ll be alright.
I agree bro....I have a red 2020 and just love the style looks sooo good with pro taper bars and a new seat I just got...love this little thing...I ride this more than I rode a 2016 Suzuki gsx-s 1000 I used to have😝
that shot from the back , little 3rd person view is fire
Agreed. As well, the one from the side. I like wide shots establishing location throughout - and good directors seem to use that a lot: so take notes TST.
Speaking on going into neutral it is a little difficult but all you have to do is roll a bit in first or second then go to neutral or when pulling up to a light in gear you can always click down into neutral smoothly
Oil change WITH a filter change will be rad!
And also, oversized oil filter adapter will be rad too, extra oil, extra filtration area! preferably KN 303 type filter , space withstanding
Got my sp today! Already put 100km on it , and will 100% get that plate hanger asap!
Finally a review of the 2022 Honda Grom I’ve already got my deposit on one and I’m just waiting for it to come in
Awesome!
How long you got?
@@johncena1227 they’re expecting it in around June
I have a deposit in as well and they said first week of June. The august mention in this video makes me a little nervous....🤨
They told me I’ll get mines in May
I thought the "ghost gear" was like a slip or the gearing was too light to slide into gear? So you'd have to release the clutch then pull it back in and shift down when that happens.
Loved seeing downtown Deland on a UA-cam vid. Bought my grom at RC Hill and got it insured down the street at Hometown Insurance.
That's awesome to hear! We're right here in Lake Helen and love riding through there for the scenery on camera.
Brady at RC Hill is the man. Sold me my first bike.
I am 53 yrs old and thinking about getting one. Back in my kids MX days they all had 110's to piss around on and I miss cruising the neighborhood on one. I can get this and do it legally . I dont really like the look of the 2022 and also dont like the green/orange of the 2020 but thats all the dealers have in my area.
Upper Body: Helmet, leather jacket and gauntlet gloves.
Lower Body: Canvass shoes and torn Old Navy Jeans.
TST: “No fucks given!” 🤘
We gotta stay humble every now and then haha!
Slight amount of fucks given
@@daltonhunter4049 Just enough to keep everyone happy. 😉
Whether or not he'll be doling out fucks without lower body gear depends on the wreck lmfao. Gotta protect the boys if you're gonna stunt
@@TSTindustries
WTH is “loopies” ?
Awesome Video, I got my 2023 Honda Grom at that very same Dealership 👍🏾
I have a reflashed DHM ecu and highly recommend to anyone doing exhaust and intake 👍very satisfied customer lol
He's an awesome and super knowledgeable guy so that's awesome to hear!
@@TSTindustries it’s crazy how much better it pulls at 7k and above
I just have an exhaust at the moment, those are definitely the next two mods I am going to do
what’s the top speed on it ??
@@lilpsack7194 65 is the fastest I’ve been so far but that was around 8k and I think it limits at like 9250 or something so prob about 70 downhill lol
I'm age 43, and looking for my first real bike. I do not feel comfortable with Clutch/Gear shifting. Only have ridden for a few year the Piaggio Beverly 350, which is already a strong ride.
However, I do consider the GROM as my entrance bike to get comfortable and confident with the shiftings, then upgrade to a bigger one, keeping the Grom as a fun bike.
Thanks for the Video. It encouraged me to get one myself. 👍
Awesome to hear!
I’m digging these motovlog/first ride videos. 🔥🙌🙌🙌🙌
We might have to start doing more of them!
@@TSTindustries
As a responsible and safe rider, you’re supposed to come to a complete stop to click into neutral. And how about a kit to raise the bike’s overall height to make it an ADV motorcycle?
@@TSTindustries please do, it will def boost your companies rep because motovlogs are big hits on youtube!!
When I ordered TST parts can I just come pick them up since I’m in Orlando and not have to pay and wait for shipping?
Absolutely. Just give us a call at least an hour before you head over.
If i have to wait to buy around Aug 1st, is there gonna be a wait? Or any other things to consider? I don't mind waiting if i have to but would like to know and if theres anything else buying around beginning of Aug would possibly incur. Thanks!
Thank you for showing side views with different rider heights! Always nice to know, great vid
Glad you enjoyed it!
This bike has really grown on me . I said I wasn’t gonna get one because they looked too small and goofy. now I rode one and now I really want one!
That happens to a lot of people.
Have one one order for wife’s first bike. Let me know what you have for new rider parts (sliders, etc). She’s more stoked for her Grom than I am for my Chief DH, although it looks like I’ll be getting mine first. We’ve been told June for the Grom. Lame to wait that long into the very short riding season here but seems to be worth the wait. Thanks for the review!
We currently have a specific model listing for the third gen Grom and all the parts we currently have are listed. As we continue development, more parts will be added in.
tstindustries.com/honda-msx-125-grom-2022/
Good review! I bought a wolf stryker last fall and love it but am wondering what grom parts will fit. I haven’t been able to find much on it. For what i paid i wish i woulda got a real grom.
I wish your message would reach more people out there. Your experience with that off brand should be broadcast to all the people considering that and something like Grom or Z125.
@@TSTindustries thank you for the reply. New subscriber looking forward to catching up on your older videos and what you have to come. You seem very knowledgable and well spoken on the subject.
You can't just switch it to MPH? The other US models you can easily switch from MPH to KPH
I checked the Asian MSX125 manual, actually they can only change between km/L and L/100km. No mph/kph listed.
@@xorbe2 hmm... that's pretty strange that it would have a different computer than a US version. It'd be pretty weird if we were unable to switch to kph in the US. Every digital display I've seen allows you to switch it. Who knows 🤷♂️ lol
Hey I’m 6,3 and I’m still growing! Can someone tell me if this would be a good investment for me or should I just go all out and like a 600cc super bike???
I've had big bikes and I will say I'm passionate about these smaller bikes there awsome..I have a bum leg from a motorcycle acident so the flat seat helps me sit back so my leg can not drag..I'm all messed up. Thus is the first style of bike I've had since being injured .I can handle it good with my issues.. I do want a real honda tho..I ride a clone..its nice but not the same caliber
Thinking about buying a grom any things I should know?
Have fun and ride your own ride! The grom is a great bike, extremely robust, and super friendly.
I'd like to see a journey build for one of these. A grom you can travel on like a big bike.
I just checked my 2022 (US), it still has the "ghost gear" (as you call it), no stop after 1st gear.
Thanks for sharing the reviews! Nice bike!
Graphics make it,,really apreciate the review mark,,dig this channel and the USA made parts on my HONDA,,, 🍀
Thanks for the view and the love!
Great video!!! 1 question: How can you ride without mirrors?
With a follow car behind me looking out for me haha.
What'd it like with a heavier person it, I'm 250lbs
I'm debating on buying a grom if you I've heard it's pretty small what do you guys think
it is a small bike but the fun is big...I am 6'0" and I can have a blast on this little machine
At TST do you guys do any engine modifications? and if so with the new engine bor and longer stroke are you planning on making new bot kit for engine moding?
We do not deal with engine modifications in that regard but DHMotoring specializes in that area. Be sure to check him out!
I have a 2022 Grom SP on order. Can't wait....
Awesome!
any idea when fairing kits would become available for these? also what kind of parts from previous generation groms will fit on the 2022?
No idea on fairing kits but you can check out 77decals on Instagram for vinyl kits. Quite a few parts will transfer right over from previous generations. Check out our website to see product listings.
Big up 77 decals on the kit I have one of his on SF he's a legend.
Is there no option to hold button to change reading to MPH like we have on the SF model?
I'm not sure! I tried long-pressing the buttons but had no change, maybe I didn't hold it long enough.
@@TSTindustries ahhh fair enough seems abit of a flaw to have it on older models but not new ones maybe there's a different process to do it with it being a newer style speedo cluster
Is it just me or has the grom gotten taller? I rode a 2014 Grom when I took my Motorcycle Safety Class a couple years ago and it seems like the newer models are getting taller and taller. Maybe it's just me
I liked the 2nd gen headlight better. I own a Z125 pro but always interested in what's going on with the Groms. I do like the 5 speed on this one though.
*patiently waits for Kawi to upgrade the Z*
That was the big sell for me and the new Grom. I was really looking forward to getting a Z125pro as well but I’ve hit 65mph stock on my new Grom and still have 3k rpm before redline with the new 5spd… I’m hoping Kawasaki refreshes the Z soon, it’s due time!
Would like to see a wheelie on it and how snappy that new trans is
Hopefully will my Grom arrive next week at the local dealer😁👏🏼 ordered one in Force Silver Metallic.
Good choice! We can't wait to hear your thoughts on it once you take it for a spin.
Snap. I’m based in the UK and collecting new Grom in Silver next week. I’m sure the fluorescent yellow detailing will grow on me
@@TSTindustries i do have a short film to watch at Grom5upporter ;)
Hey, how much did you pay for it with dealer fees and all that, and how do you like it?
@@lochamabro3638 Things are quite expensive here in Norway, like everything. So i paid 4735$ incl tax. So far, its been a blast. The worst thing, is waiting for the US market to make parts for it because i did know it would take months after putchase to start modding it
12:46 Honda Pacific Coast alert.
Are Groms stable at 50 mph? 12'' wheels fill me with dread. As attractive as the bike is, I can't help thinking 14'' or 15'' wheels would make it perfect.
Great video, well-presented. I can see why you have 123,000 subscribers. You have one more now. Greetings from a Brit in Thailand.
Yes, at 50 and even 60mph, the Grom feels stable. Once you get to 65+ things can get a little shaky from time to time but this bike handles everything surprisingly well.
0:43 Did I miss something - since when is speedometer referred to as "tach". I always knew tach as tachometer.
Heck yeah awesome bike! Just picked up my sp model yesterday! Mods and videos coming soon :)
Right on!
I still have ghost gear below 1, does yours?
@@roosterino yeah it does. And neutral sometimes goes --- while trying to find it. it's real soft . But the thing is still soooo much fun! Haha
@@michaelalphin okay that’s a reassuring reply cause mine does the exact same as yours! Just picked it up and enjoying it so far. Subbed to see your mods!
@@roosterino ok that is reassuring Im glad to not be the only one. But awesome thanks! They're coming real soon!!
August? Did Honda change the release date from May?
🤷♂️ our local dealership doesn't really know.
Deland? Awesome. Bought my first bike from RC Hill Honda there years back. Was just there yesterday on my VTX.
I live in Daytona, and currently riding an 05 VTX 1800f, and an 01 Vmax.
Very cool!
Does anyone know an ACTUAL release date/window? I'm going this weekend to inquire and hopefully put down a deposit but I've been checking every day for over a month and still no idea when I'd be able to get my hands on it.
It seems to depend where you are, but I've been told by dealers in my area that they don't even have a way of ordering them and can see what is coming in now - August and there are no 2022 Grom's on shipment. So with the inability to place orders and none being on order, I would expect late summer / fall.
Strange the US delivery is so late. They are already delivered in Europe and we expect the new monkey in August. Of course the SF couldn´t be sold in Europe since januari 1 2021 due to new emission regulations.
When are you gonna have Ohlins suspension for my FZ-07 back in stock?
When Ohlins pumps up their production quantities. We order directly from them.
Yesterday my Grom 2021 did arrive (Germany).
For me clearly the gun powder black model is the design for the 3rd generation. It looks bad ass.
Agreed!
Is there an exhaust/intake ecu kit available? I already ordered my grom should have it by June
Check out DHMotoring! He will be offering exhausts and intakes I believe.
Lovit.
Hmm ,any information on the 2022 Honda monkey. Torn between the two bikes ,will buy 2022 model, Grom or Monkey. U.K. buyer.
Great vid,subscribed 👌🏾🔥👊🏾
What is the seat height on this new grom, is it still 30 inches like the previous model?
It's like 29.75. So yeah same height
It would be fantastic if you put together a 5 speed gear kit if it fits the existing housing. This is the one feature I need.
There are a handful of 5-speed kits on the market already for the 1st and 2nd gen groms.
newbie here, is it legal to not have the mirrors? I like that look way better but im not trying to get a ticket
Those laws vary from place to pllace so I would suggest you check your local laws. More importantly you should be asking yourself if that is a safe move for yourself. I always suggest that people not mod their vehicles to make them unsafe for their use.
its really cool to know that i have found a local youtube channel thats in close to me
Do you guys have a fender eliminator kit for the 2022 grom? Or does the older version one fit?? I have one coming around late may and really wanna get an eliminator asap.
We have it currently in development. According to our sources, the US isn't seeing them until August.
I’m voting for TST’s products ofc (used them on my OG Grom) but since US are so late out getting the Grom maybe Zeedparts or msx125accessories will have some parts availible for us in the meantime?
@@TSTindustries What's your source on August? Put my deposit down and both Honda and the dealer say late May/early June? I wanna know if they're jivin me around. ;)
@@ianwatches Our local dealership originally said March, then May. Now, they said it may be August before they get them. We put a deposit down so I guess we will wait and see.
@@TSTindustries Here's hoping it's sooner than later! ;)
I think the new Grom looks amazing
I'm glad that's its looking more like the OG grom
is the new 125 stroked engine going to the other models as well , like monkey supercub hunter cub? or will we be cursed with 2 versions of the 125 engine forever?
Thinking about downgrading from my turbo busa for this
Do it!
Upgrading you say....
I’m still not sold on buying the new grom! I like everything but the silly custom holes that makes it look like a toy bike! Il wait to see how people customise it and I might change my mind! 😆
Fair enough, I think most people will feel the same way!
Your lost my gain :)
Are the gears shorter? One of my main complaints about the previous groms is how long the gears are, and how shifting up puts you out of the power band-if you can even consider them having one, lol.
The gears are shorter and I think that's due to it being 5 speed now.
I watched a thai video a couple weeks about this. Dude said the gears feel the same, same shift points basically, just a 5th gear at the end for cruising and fuel economy. They've had it for a year already. But no tech specs, just his opinion.
@@willyjimmy8881 best knowledge out of all the comments. thx for writing this paragraph and somehow interpreting thai lol
I wonder if the 5th gear actually means anything.. like top speed isnt faster and 4th gear is reliable. So whats the 5th gear for?
Closer gear ratios in the gearbox mean better performance through turns and other situations. This especially helps if you are racing the little bike because you can make final gear selections easier that suit the track you are at best.
Need a headlight conversion kit
Haha love riding through deland with my grom👍....even riding out on state road 11 is nice👍
The best!
Only thing i would want from the new grom is the dash and 5 gear to put on my sf.
How did you guys get the red fairings for this grom? Thanks!
@@TSTindustries oOoOo... alrighty i'am looking all around, and i will look at your new videos. Thanks again!
@@TSTindustries Subscribed lol
Is the 2022 from going to be the same price or 500 or 1000 more?
Unfortunately, we do not know. Ask your local Honda power sports dealership within the next few weeks.
Allow me to educate you on why Honda or any other manufacturer does not change things like suspension often. It is because they have long term contracts for parts, and they cannot just break those contracts. For example, Tokico which sold out to Hitachi a few years ago makes stock shocks for most motorcycles. Here is how the process goes, lets say Honda does a contract with Hitachi to make shocks, well Honda will bring in the machines to make those shocks. The machines are only setup to make a specific size shock, and the machines will cut the tubes, press the bushings, weld the caps etc. So Hitachi will use those machines to just make the specific model shocks they have a contract to make, and that contract cannot just be broken by Honda. Therefore all the shocks Honda gets for the length of that contract will all be the same. That in a nutshell is why the suspension has not changed. It is simply because Honda spends millions to make parts machines, then spends millions more to send those parts machines to factories to have those parts made. It is the exact same reason why a lot of cars today are literally still being made on chassis designed in the 60s and 70s. It is much cheaper to keep using something that works than to change it or create something new.
Oh trust us, we completely understand how the inner workings of mass manufacturing and contracts work. We just figured eventually they would want to upgrade the suspension, especially being that they've reworked the motor for the third gen and even the case covers for the second gen. It's all a numbers game that we understand. Just wishing the cries for that would be heard and addressed.
Will you be bringing this to the Smoky Mountain Small Bore event in June?
We will not be attending this year unfortunately!
@@TSTindustries oh man that stinks. Maybe next year.
as an ex gorm stunter, I'd like to know if the new motor is going to require an oil pump upgrade
I think as a fail-safe, yes but until more people get their hands on them, it's tough to tell. I'm sure DHMotoring might be insightful in that department.
TST I'm interested if the 181 Kitaco Neo BBK can fit on this new engine. Or some 180 cc bbk option anyway - that would be a good mod to watch.
None of the bbk kits from the old models will work on the 22+ bikes. The engines are completely different. Biggest big bore you can get for this new one is the 149cc from DHM and it's looking like that's going to be about the limit. The position of the head bolts on the new model really limits how big of a piston you can fit.
Can you not change the cluster from kph to mph like the last ones I know that I can on my 18 but was just wondering
The exhaust is 1/3 total wet weight of poor Grom. Probably gain 5-10 mph just changing the exhaust alone.
How much
Good Ole deland! I still live here too
That's awesome!
How about a comprehensive comparison between the new grom and the z125??
There’s really no point in a comparison. The Z125 Pro is outdated and behind the power curve. The Grom has an updated [eco] engine with a 5 speed transmission and replaceable oil filter.
@@travelinman482 isn't that a comparison?
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No, not really.
@@travelinman482 🤣 ok boomer
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Can you modify it to a dirtbike , like switching the tires ??
Yes, you can switch the tires. We actually have knobby tires on our shop Grom.
Did you add high rise bars to that? It looks like they are high
those were stock bars
@@TSTindustries Do you think its a good bike to go get some groceries on? Maybe put a large basket on the back with a sign that says, "I'm a grocery getter?"
The 125 cc on the grom is a bit slow. The 2020 grom is good but it doesn’t have as much futures as the 2022 grom has.
Woop woop!!!! Awesome video!
🎉
I want red motard style HRC kit. So cool.
Us too!
I’m 6’3” 240 pounds and roll stoppies and hit jumps all day long on stock suspension on my 2018. The suspension can handle more shit then most people demand out of their grom. Suspension change being the first thing you said you would do is almost comical to me sorry haha. Just thought I’d put that out there. Honda is perfection. Change nothing and don’t touch the motor. You’ll wheelie for years with only oil change.
Should have put sound from the bike video
do you live in deland??? i swear that’s where this video is
Yep!
I was surprised you didn't do a top speed.
Just deposited for a yellow 22’! For exhausts, I can’t justify spending $600 on a yoshi. Will you guys be selling/making more budget friendly options?
DHmotoring will be offering exhaust and intake combos I believe.
i LOVE how it looks
Agreed!
Awesome video!
Thanks!
Wait no way you guys are in deland???
Edit: Rc Hill Honda deland is where I just bought a bike!
We're right in Lake Helen!
possible to see drag race against knock offs?
Not hating on them. I just don’t know why someone would buy it. A 250 would be better if you wanted a little bike.
Og vs sf vs sp in a drag race. I like the new grom. I cant wait to buy one
We plan on doing a few videos, hopefully with all 3 models.
Ok stupid question, Og means old generation? What about sf and sp?
Top speed video of the 2022 grom stock.
I believe DHMotoring will cover that in his dyno video!
i have a 2018, and in my opinion i like the 2nd gen best
I like the GTA third person view.
Next video I'll walk around like a GTA character for you. 😉😅
I love my Grom!