HP 100B all-in-one PC (2011)
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- I was given a free old computer that's almost certainly going to be bottom-tier crap. Let's take a look at it, and even try to make Windows 11 work on it.
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You had me at "free garbage"
Same LoL😆
Anything without windows 11 is treasure to me
Rufus has had the feature to remove Windows 11 restrictions for quite some time now. It can bypass some stuff on Windows 10 as well. Fantastic utility.
Currently have a free eMachines EL1850 from the same time that origianlly shipped with a Celeron 450. I recently upgraded it to a Core 2 Q8400 and 4GB of RAM.
I remember that "The computer is personal again" campaign from HP, it was a bit weird even back then. Nice to see it once again. Too bad the project didn't go anywhere in the end. It doesn't seem unusual for this sort of plastic with the glossy black finish turning brittle over the years, some time ago I found a Toshiba laptop, similar age, similar material, glossy black finish. I really would have liked to restore it as it had an unusually large screen (more than 17"), but sadly all the plastics holding the hinges in place had crumbled away, there was nothing left. I improvised and put some long machine screws all the way through the outer case, ugly, but functional. But the very first time I tried to close the screen the plastic that the screws went through crumbled away as well. It was a lost cause...
when I saw it and heard the model name all I could think of was "oh no"
we've had a couple of these exact same ones at a place I used to work helpdesk at..... not very pleasant at all.. that does answer your question, it was indeed sold as a low-end "business" machine
I used to use these computers during part of my time as a student in high school. Excluding the PC shown here, part of the computer changes happened in 2012 and 2014. The later upgrade included having touchscreen desktops in a classroom set up for computer classes; however I noticed only one touchscreen out of all 30 computers was working. The majority of the computers were running Windows 7. Some of the computers may have been downgraded from Windows 8. Speaking of which, at 10:02 I think Windows 8 also did use this splash screen.
I bought one of these at a Goodwill ages ago. Knew these things are junkers but I got one just to pull out the hard drive. Mine had a 750 GB Seagate.
I've had multiple people ask me to take their super low-end, 2GB of RAM Celeron laptops from the early 2010s, which usually have had Windows 10 or 11 shoehorned onto them, and in their words, "make it faster". That's kind of like taking your Yugo to a mechanic and asking if he can make it run like a Ferrari 🤦♀
i used to have an E-350 machine given to me by my mom back in 2016. that thing was so frustratingly slow and would practically burn your lap even idling. would have to wait about 30 seconds to a minute or more for google chrome to open because it was that slow. i never got the chance to downgrade it to windows XP like i wanted to, but XP was getting long in the tooth by that point. eventually the thing cooked its own thermal sensor inside the processor (or some kind of connection to it was broken) which made it think that the system desperately needed cooling, so it would ramp the fan to a crazy high level and stay on for all of 30 seconds. complete and total ewaste
That hard drive sounds like a jackhammer.
that 2010 era computers flooded the market here, my eye twitch when i see those AMD vision stickers hah.
the ones that supported it ran XP pretty good though, but you can still see them sometimes running windows 10 at a glacial pace as POS or doing specific tasks at some locations.
Still, free garbage is free garbage lol
i got for free a HP all in one with 2gen i3 gt 525m 1gb and 4gb ram i upgraded it to 8gb and my sister gave me a 128gb ssd still works really well
System Restore from the recovery partition is the same as it is in Windows. It is there in case you cannot boot to Windows. System Recovery restores it to out of box state.
My mom had an Omni 100, a close sibling to this machine. It had an Athlon II mobile chip in it and 6GB of RAM. Ran Windows 10 fine-ish, but I eventually just gave her a 4th gen Intel i3 Dell Optiplex and that's still in use today. Her now being retired, there's not much performance needed so I'll just give her something of similar spec (but new enough) next year when Windows 10 goes end of life.
I have to wonder if these had the problem being serviced even back when they still relatively new. A relative of mine had an "HP 19" AIO, very similar to this just a little newer and from 2014, and they had completely reworked the way these were assembled. Instead there were two or three captive philips screws on the bottom you just turned slightly and the back would just pop off. It had some Celeron permutation that was equally slow, but who knows. It was put together better than this
I have always liked the HP Wallpapers from that era… I had not seen that one before.
Those bottom sludge HPs have no redeeming qualities. My brother's old HP craptop probably had the same CPU. Somebody spilled a drink on it around 2014 but fortunately a friend's parent was getting rid of an "old" laptop. My brother accepted it and it was a (then) 3 years old ThinkPad W510 which was obviously a massive upgrade in every conceivable way. He still uses it everyday.
I've not gotten to the hardware reveal part yet, but I'm willing to bet it's actually got an Athlon of some flavor in there with AMD Radeon HD 4200 or 4250 graphics. It's the style of "AMD Vision" badge. If I recall, the models that had E-xxx chips had a different style of AMD Vision badge.
And not more than a couple minutes later, I'm proven wrong lol
Hahaha
I did this my old acer m1640. Ran vista originally. It was my first linux pc. I got windows 11 on for fun. It work. It my test pc
HP really had a hard on for cheap AMD ewaste in the early 2010s, it was disgusting. Reminds me somewhat of a Compaq Presario desktop that was given to me many years back that shipped with a low clocked, single core Athlon II 170u at the end of 2010. Oh and guess what, HP stripped some of the RAM slots and the PCIe x16 slot from the board - though that's not as bad as using a 250W power supply that was so cheap that it lacked SATA connectors on a SATA-only system, and thus, was using Molex to SATA (lose all your data!) adapters from the factory.
Aside from being cheap, these systems typically came with huge hard drives that were 500GB or more - probably because it was the only way HP would even be able to sell these things.
Judging by the BIOS style and the B in the model number, this system was intended for the business market and was under their lowest unbranded tier - in which there were a lot of obscure unbranded models that HP made in the late 2000s and early 2010s, all overlapping with other product lines. There was also a SFF desktop version which would effectively be a slightly less wasteful version of the Pavilion p2 you looked at many years back. The fact this system has become so brittle in only 13 years and can't even stay stable makes this more depressing than your average sad nugget.
9:03 finding a system manufacture date on an HP system is pretty easy, digits 4-6 in the serial number contain a number denoting that - in your case, it would be 109 (week 9, 2011).
You could've tried putting ChromeOS Flex on it. It could be a okay enough internet browsing machine than running Windows 10 on it.
Current Linux Mint mate maybe?
I have completely low end machine... A celeron 2840... 2014
Linux Mint mate runs fine on it🤔
Format to running about 20 minutes with built in decent software.
Libre Office making PDFSs is worth the free attempt alone.🙃
It's amazing how much this computer looks like a kitchen TV or something along those lines.
I had a Thinkpad X140e when I was still in university as well!
"That's something I wish I didn't go through" holy crap that had me rolling
I can say I've never seen ethernet kill Windows before...that's kinda wild!
I called it, those e-300 series thing, my mom got a simillar spec system, a small acer desktop with an amd e-300, 4GB of ram and a 320GB drive, back in 2012, i replaced it in 2018 i think, i still have that computer
Post-Carly HP is just a hellscape of e-waste that hasn't made it to the landfill yet. I managed to score an off-lease 2019 HP thin client for $25. It's flaky as all get-out but I managed to get OpenBSD running on it -- probably worth it for $25 but not much more. Today, I still use the HP Stream as the canonical example of the lowest-end potato you can get on the market. E.g., "Even a rinky-dink HP Stream has more processing power in it than we could have ever dreamed of in the 90s." True, but not very encouraging given how much Windows now requires to even boot.
i have one of those i got from the trash . it was a good PC for my mom to use for her book keeping
This model is bestwise known as 'qvc garbage'
Did you clean CPU fan and repaste
A fellow dankpods fan I see.
oh so it was no good with SSD
I wonder what different a ssd will make? though I have an and a4 5000 PC and windows like dog poo on that Linux is a little better to use with SSD.
It WILL make a difference, in that regular usability will go up a few notches, but you will still have a notable bottleneck in the CPU, limiting what you can actually do.
In short: you will still be limited in what programs you can run, but those that DO run will do so much better
So I got something similar to what my mother gave me the other month - 2010 HP Omni with an Athlon II X2, 4gb ram, a Radeon 4200HD GPU and a 500gb HDD plus a DVD burner. Now that Athlon II is a 35w desktop variant - i own a Lenovo laptop with the infamous E-series hardware, they are worse and UEFI; mine is AM3. I think i have an upgrade for the ram to 8gb, plus i made it dual boot with Win10 (my own cut down version using the MSMG Powershell script and an official MS supplied ISO of WIn10) and Linux Lite (an Ubuntu derivative that has a modified kernal for older hardware. Mine has a bit of a loud drive as well (and it's a regular 3.5" Bay drive) but it's also not overly insulated for sound. I have it in the bedroom on my dresser as it is 22 inch, so it's basically the Bedroom HTPC. I use the Windows 10 side for playing older abandonware (stuff like Outrun 2006 Coast 2 Coast, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, etc which all run like ass in Wine on this hardware). The Linux side is for basic day to day stuff like streaming media, some linux games and web browsing (the Radeon hardware can to 1080p/60fps via h264 hardware). It does have the webcam but sadly no Bluetooth (so i gotta use a long cord for my gamepad for Fallout New Vegas. It's 900p (which is probably the same screen as well as whats used in their laptop line, as the E series is netbook grade hardware). My Lenovo E series laptop's E series GPU was a Radeon 7310 which i read is basically like a mobile 5450, but it wasnt GCN).
28:46 your bluescreen said your error was related to a driver issue, namely the tcpip.sys driver which is for your hardline (ethernet). thats why the cable unplugged ended up fixing it, your ethernet was the issue at the driver level (wifi doesnt use wifi the same way). its why you crashed it at 30:10. Windows Update needs to install the APU drivers, which also i think are tied to the northbridge i think, which here possibly manages the APU communicating with ethernet. I know when i put Windows 10 on my Lenovo, it had to get the video drivers etc from Windows Update as per the AMD site. Watchdog Violations are driver related. the age issue isnt an issue because the older driver is from the hardware vendor whereas the newer one is a generic Microsoft one meant to be 'universal' and obviously wasnt (same with the Microsoft Basic Display Driver). my honest recommendation with this rig is make it a Linux machine and you could make it a server or something to that effect, or donate it with Linux on it. It's hardware is too low spec for Windows 10 and 11. Also maybe try an Android desktop flavor like OpenFyde? that can make it much less demanding (basically a Chromebook desktop with Android).
Is it targeted at a specific market? I have a pretty low end system I use here that was built to be a wait station computer, and it really doesn't take much power to punch in orders and such. That would also explain the name, businesses don't care about cutsie names for what they buy after all.
Thank goodness you didn’t activate Norton Security, I think that hard disk would have exploded.
Of course; the bloatware is far out of date.
7:37 DankPods wants to know your location!
My HP laptop has the same E350 CPU. It will run Win11, since it's an x64 architecture, but it's pretty painful. Win10 wasn't much better, but I went back and installed an x86 version of Win10 and it's much happier now, on all stock hardware.
Yeah Rufus is such a nice little program ! You get an real working version of Windows 11 including all the updates and no crap😂you must install Windows direct from your home screen and not by restarting from the BIOS ( starting from USB) and also by installing check the box on updates during the install, you must turn that of !😅
I really miss this computer's era of software. the hardware was garbage, but the software was so much simpler and funner to mess around with.
I hate to say this but that Old Relic was worse than my Toshiba C650D Laptop.
It came with a Atholon ll P320 CPU and and with a score of 702.
The E350 APU came out with a score of 423. 2 Cores 2 Threads. Geepers !! I wonder what's the absolute worst CPU with a score worse than 423... That's a Granny computer!! LOL...
You should image that HDD while you still can and upload a copy to the internet archive.
Funny how my mom got the computer a month ago after cleaning a guy's house. Instead of earning 7000 dollars, she got a 1000, a smart tv (even though we have one already) without a remote and surprise surprise, that computer.
I would find a new job lol...
Any good ALL-IN-ONE'S out there?
I have an Asus laptop with an amd vision APU on it, an e2-1800 though. I shoehorned Windows 11 on it, with Rufus, just because... What a mistake: even with an SSD and 8 gigs of ram, it gets unresponsive even with windows explorer alone! I wanted to install fydeOS on it but it never got past the initial splash screen...
id give it the hp oem windows 10 pro os 2 step installation process
If you're going to use an HP laptop, never buy a laptop larger than 14" as that's about the cutoff point where their hinges start to snap if you sneeze on em. the only exception is metal built laptops.
although you could also just buy an ASUS or Acer for a better experience sadly. acer gets a lot of bad rep for bad quality that they kinda just grew out of. even dell e-waste is *slightly* better.
You consider Dell e-waste? I always thought they were among the better manufacturers, at least with their business-grade machines.
@@themaritimegirl only sometimes, some of their lower end machines can dip into the e-waste category, but most of their stuff is pretty good.
I do think a lot of lenovo laptops are e-waste out of the box, especially the 1366x768 TN thinkpads being released up until a few years ago.
I would put 2000 or XP on it and see what 9x , 2k games play like, before it with the E waste pile..
your wrong on that count, you claim that when you buy a new computer you'd think that they would have put a ssd or an nvme.2 drive in it , but No they stuck a 1TB Spinning HDD 2.5" on Laptops and the All in 1 by hp 22 also comes with a 1TB 3.5" with a spinning HDD with windows 10 some was windows 11 with an Intel Celeron Quad Core it was slower than Molasses, had to remove the 1TB 3.5" HDD at 7200RPM, and remove the Celeron Quad Core CPU, Upgraded it with a 500GB nmve.2 SSD, plus 1TB 2.5" SSD and put a Intel Pentium 5400T Gold Dual Core 35w CPU, and added 8GB of Ram to the existing 8GB equal of 16GB and upgraded it from Win10 over to Win11 its an 8th Gen CPU, and now it runs great this also has an expansion card for the graphics to accept an Nvidia GPU equivalent to a 2060 but the card is $100 and you have to get them on amazon or eBay, and have to change the heatsink as well and thats another $100 and i just didnt do it i thought that was a bit too much so its left with Intel 620 graphics and says it supports HDR...
You are SOL on USB 3.0 until at least 2012. Even then, you may be looking at a separate controller for it. So It wont be on the bargain basement machines.
Amd Vision...
Oh no...😢.
Does the nugget play scarletfire
Not after this video it doesn't lol
hi there im in the Maritimes too how are you
little linux on that thing would help it past win10 eol
37:14 hdd hard drive
I Called These The " Ouch " PC's . . . Ouch . . .
use it as a thin client
I'll never understand why these computers existed, they did not even work fine for low intensive work
hey beautifull whats up !!
I trashed out a bunch of e-series just like this the other week at work. They are completely useless, and are not fast enough to do pretty much anything. Can you make a video where you destroy this thing with a sledgehammer or something
Even my hp dv7 high end laptop from 2008 is way better than this and has a intel core 2 2.10ghz processor and a great graphics card with 512 vram
Again......what did u do ? Try first the Windows 7 home screen and then look for computer then look for the Windows USB then open it and then start setup, this will work all the time, so again do NOT start the installation by restarting the computer ! Then you get these problems !😊
That makes no sense whatsoever. The cleanest way to install Windows is by booting from the installation media and not involving the currently-installed OS in the installation, and that's what I will continue to do.
Since this computer is considered to be GARBAGE, why not install Linux Mint on it? Linux will run circles around Windows on older hardware. I'm running Mint on my 2012 Lenovo laptop. It runs great. Microsoft sucks! They are getting worse with each new version!
What kind of noob are you trying to put Win 11 on a 14 year old PC with a lowest of the low grade CPU? Throw lightweight Linux distro on there for the love of all that is holy! Try Peppermint OS or Debian XFCE. At least you will be able to do basics like browsing and light streaming on UA-cam.
I didn't know conducting an experiment for fun was equivalent to being a "noob" 👍
i have the TouchSmart 310 pc and it runs circles round your hp!
That's a much better one - Athlon II X2.