Loved this one too. None of the salesman style puffery a lot of other videos are doing while claiming to be delivering an honest opinion. Well done. Keep em coming.
Bjørn.... You make the most personal, geeky accurate and surprisingly fun car review videos. Although I have already bought an EV a while back and I will probably ride that for 10+ years I still find myself coming back to watch your reviews due to all the qualities you put into them. Thank you for your effort, time and for being you.
24:47 Not sure if this is a weakness or strength. If you buy the battery you are responsible of the degradation. With battery swop its just your problem until next swop.
Thanks Björn for this video! As always very good information and very entertaining!! MY 2 cents (dealbreakers) for NIO and most Chineese cars in these days: 1. The software ... buggy and not adapted to European habbits (except for Polestar) 2. Nomi is a pain in the a** - total nonsense IMHO 3. Permanent "ding-dong" for almost anthing .. unaccaptable 4. These peeking out camera bulgs are ugly ... All these pain-points are also in the video very well pointed out! But China is leader in battery tech, and that will not change any time soon.
Autogefühl had same problem with NOMI. He managed to turn it off. Also crossing China guy showed how to do it quite easily so I think you should do it and retest!!
@Bjørn Nyland great...glad u got to experience it without NOMI...Do you think it will do well in Europe once they have more developed infrastructure and possibly more European orientated software tweaks?? I hope you get to try the ET5 and EL7 soon!!
Considering the temperature, I think the consumption is actually good. I have seen some ET5 reviews from 🇨🇳, that car is smaller and lighter but the consumption is similar to ET7 for the time being, because the ET5 has a different powertrain. Excited to see that car for European reviews.
In my opinion, it‘s rather an ICE Killer than a Tesla, EQS or any other BEV Killer. I bet you know, Björn and use these Headlines just as Clickbait😂. Thanks anyway, you are doing a great and valuable job! All the best to you and your Family!
Once I noticed the accelerating / decelerating thing it would absolutely drive me nuts! Can't be good for efficiency also. One thing I'm curious about regarding battery swapping - after a few years and some battery degradation, could you then sign up for battery swap and get a newer one (or is that handled with terms and conditions somehow)?
I wonder if the non-linear power delivery by the autopilot is affecting the range in any significant way? That yo-yoing is a deal breaker for me! Hopefully they fix it
The behavior doesn't even look like a PID control loop. It seems like some sort of if-else implementation. Or maybe it's PID but some variable has too little resolution? Difficult to tell. Anyway, I agree something is clearly wrong.
I just noticed that the Nio does not have any mudflaps. I bet it will rust in couple of years at the bottom of front doors since salt and small rocks will hit the side of the car.
Really looking forward to this one! But you can't even test drive it in Europe yet so I think it'll take a few months for Bjorn to get his hands on it.
Björn, do you check if the reported consumption is true? Seems like car brands can play with this number a bit to look a bit better compared to others. Do you measure total energy used after a run by charging up to the same level (100%) and noting the amount of kWh the charger delivers? In the end, this is what we pay.
If they survive 5 years from now I might consider. But right now, as cool as the car is, your also risk buying into a car company that having issues selling cars within its own domestic market in addition to cash flow problems. I've learned my lesson with Chinese stocks, all it takes is one little decimal place in the wrong spot in their accounting and the whole company goes belly-up.
Nio is thinking different and in my opinion has some of the same quality's and fun thinking as tesla. Their system is very good and is getting better all the time. I am a fan and simply think it is a great car. Lot of power as well
Any recommendations for a car that isn’t loaded with bloatware in the form of excessive silly tech that isn’t actually needed, dreamt up by the marketeers and execs, adding huge costs to a car sticker price?
An analog car? Any car with a bit of electronics isn't really necessary. A century ago cars could also drive but didn't even come with indicators... Even a Tesla like @squick1842 mentioned is loaded with camera's and sensors witch you don't really need. A backup camera? Just look out of your window. Parking sensors? Just watch your surroundings and get to know how big your car is.
@@TrustedHealer58 aye, the issue, as I see it anyway, also reaches a broader context, not only cars. My independent garage I take my Mazda to admitted that in a few years time they might pack it in as the tech in cars is getting to a stupid level where hugely expensive diagnostic equipment is needed to diagnose a car fault and then fix it. That is a sad situation. Dealers charge a kidney or two to fix even minor issues and quite often it is not diagnosed correctly at the first pass as the tech makes it so complicated to ID a fault. [A Mazda dealer quoted me £450 to fix my sat nav, insisting that a new chip was needed. I googled the issue and discovered that a simple fix corrected the issue which was well-known. I have a tyre pressure sensor that the dealer and independent tried to fix and couldn’t. Still not fixed to this day. And I cannot disconnect it as it is a so-called safety feature. Just a few examples of many tech-based issues]. And yes, even a Tesla is software heavy. Tech = buggy. Thank god seat belts aren’t software-based. An analogue car would be a dream. No dodgy electronics that fail and which can’t be fixed without hooking up to a computer. I’m tired of tech that exists for no reason at all other than to part people from their cash. And yea of course there is tech that actually is beneficial.
Nio hide some battery capacity under 0%, you can safely drive 20km. I think you mess up with Nomi, since most nio owners like nomi very much. The European version software still has long way to go.
If I'm not mistsken Bjorn, all the "voices" annoying information can be muted off very quickly using the screen. Another YT creator showed how the other day.
Probably something cheap or an older model. Newer cars get quite a lot of safety equipment for the 5 star ratings at crashtests. Even the Seat Mii Electric I'm driving dings when the lane assist gets upsets. It is posible to turn off the lane assist but everytime you turn on the car it's back on again. The VW e-Up before the facelift with the smaller battery doesn't have lane assist but city brake witch probably won't get activated that often I hope.
for me, battery swap would work only if I would own the car with a battery, and when swapped, the newly installed one has guaranteed minimum SOH (eventually tied to mileage of the car)
Et7 seems to be a fail.. many different reviews about this car, some love it, some hate it.. There are rumors about an et7 facelift coming soon.. let’s see, a lot of things to do! 😔
They have the technical expertise when they are able to make a more quiet car than eqs that is faster and lighter for half the price. But then they cannot make a lane keep assist work even if they have cameras and lidar for several thousand euros. 😡Hope all this is fixed in the facelift.
@@Lucas-wp2phWhere is it half of the price? it costs 91tEur in Germany. EQS 450+ starts with 109000, but with much bigger battery and without so huge bugs. I really do not know who would buy this car in Europe for this price, it is rediculuos. If they would bring some reliable small cars, like Huyndai did, they might be getting a chance to proof they can do nice cars. But just to bring so expensive and not competitive product into premium segment, where the decision mostly made based on image of the company, it is just a strategic fail. Nio can get their market share only by lowering priced by MUCH.
@@yegorrussalev6614 A similar equipped eqs that is as fast as this et7 is more than twice the money. And still has a noisier interior.😢And if the eqs is built the same way as the latest s-class then it is a big plastic POS.
Majority of reviews are very good. Multiple awards in Europe despite a couple of months in. These negative reviews are mostly pro Tesla channels like this one and Viking. "It's All Electric" channel did a long test and Nio won without problems...
@@protagonist9716 It is 90% great but the final 10 is missing. But they already said a facelift is coming as soon as this year to fix the fixed back seat and other issues. Let us hope they also fixes the software issues.
It may be designed in germany, but it ends with the Chinese having the final say, a weird mish mash of design languages trying to base it on other cars. Lacks the execution of actual german brands
To be fair to the EQS it was on fat ass tires. Would have been fun to have seen at least one test with the 19" basic tires on that car but no the importers always insist on slapping on the biggest thing they can find.
@@bjornnyland indeed it will, but 21" 265 tires doesn't help. And I don't think hardly anyone has tested it with basic tires, winter or summer, maybe a reason to borrow an EQS again. :D
Wow, rattling trim and falling off rubber ring, this media car is so poorly maintained that it effectively falling apart. It looks like Nio Europe as a LOT of room for improvement.
..after driving this for just over 1000km I can unequivocally say that it is a worst piece of shit I have ever driven in over 37 years of driving and having driven over 1000000km in my life..
@@bjornnyland Yes of course: built quality, materials, styling are indeed superior but the issues you had are a bit worrying. They do not seem to be SW glitches as it seemed at first at your failed 1000 km test. I was really fond of Nio but I would not pay 70k EUR+ for a beta car.
lol: Why is it driving like this? --> Dear Bjorn, because it can do it like this and the Human that trained the auto drive system kinda drives like an Asian driver....
Annoying dings and dongs, rear mirror falling apart, not getting advertised charge speed, shitty sound system, digital kid nanny and a pricetag of 71k euro .. i don't think nio will sell a lot of cars.
in china, the EVs sold by BMW and Mercedes is considered as "rubbish", because the bad performance of electric motor, and the low success rate. In china, BMW and Mercedes 's EVs can only sold by very very huge discount. Can you believe that the EQC of Mercedes's price drop 400k RMB in just few months, about 57k US dollars or just EURO. Because the good performance for NIO Li AUTO, XPENG, BYD and high competence😢
Loved this one too. None of the salesman style puffery a lot of other videos are doing while claiming to be delivering an honest opinion. Well done. Keep em coming.
Finally I found my favorite EV UA-camr. Greetings from Austria
Bjorn rocks. Greetings from Austria as well! :)
Bjørn.... You make the most personal, geeky accurate and surprisingly fun car review videos. Although I have already bought an EV a while back and I will probably ride that for 10+ years I still find myself coming back to watch your reviews due to all the qualities you put into them. Thank you for your effort, time and for being you.
“Otherwise what?!? You’ll tell your mommy, huh?!?” @5:19 in the video is the best 🤣
Bjørn needs to share a Spotify playlist with his tracks, sounds like great driving music 👍
24:47 Not sure if this is a weakness or strength. If you buy the battery you are responsible of the degradation. With battery swop its just your problem until next swop.
Thanks Björn for this video! As always very good information and very entertaining!!
MY 2 cents (dealbreakers) for NIO and most Chineese cars in these days:
1. The software ... buggy and not adapted to European habbits (except for Polestar)
2. Nomi is a pain in the a** - total nonsense IMHO
3. Permanent "ding-dong" for almost anthing .. unaccaptable
4. These peeking out camera bulgs are ugly ...
All these pain-points are also in the video very well pointed out!
But China is leader in battery tech, and that will not change any time soon.
Autogefühl had same problem with NOMI. He managed to turn it off. Also crossing China guy showed how to do it quite easily so I think you should do it and retest!!
I already showed in the video that it can be turned off. You skipped too much?
@Bjørn Nyland great...glad u got to experience it without NOMI...Do you think it will do well in Europe once they have more developed infrastructure and possibly more European orientated software tweaks?? I hope you get to try the ET5 and EL7 soon!!
Considering the temperature, I think the consumption is actually good. I have seen some ET5 reviews from 🇨🇳, that car is smaller and lighter but the consumption is similar to ET7 for the time being, because the ET5 has a different powertrain. Excited to see that car for European reviews.
Nomi is a Good: Polit ,,she is taking very Good care if You ,Your safety means alot to Her
6:38 yes, definitely can see it wobbling side to side..
In my opinion, it‘s rather an ICE Killer than a Tesla, EQS or any other BEV Killer.
I bet you know, Björn and use these Headlines just as Clickbait😂.
Thanks anyway, you are doing a great and valuable job!
All the best to you and your Family!
Once I noticed the accelerating / decelerating thing it would absolutely drive me nuts! Can't be good for efficiency also.
One thing I'm curious about regarding battery swapping - after a few years and some battery degradation, could you then sign up for battery swap and get a newer one (or is that handled with terms and conditions somehow)?
I wonder if the non-linear power delivery by the autopilot is affecting the range in any significant way? That yo-yoing is a deal breaker for me! Hopefully they fix it
"It's driving just like a typical Asian driver" WOOOOWWW lol!
More interested in the ET5 .. any idea when you'll be testing that Bjorn? .. wonder if autosteer will work on that.
That power output oscillation on cruise control is just funny for a car of it's class. Like they couldn't properly tune a simple PID control loop... 🤦
The behavior doesn't even look like a PID control loop. It seems like some sort of if-else implementation. Or maybe it's PID but some variable has too little resolution? Difficult to tell. Anyway, I agree something is clearly wrong.
Rubber band ... Hilariously entertaining 😂
I just noticed that the Nio does not have any mudflaps. I bet it will rust in couple of years at the bottom of front doors since salt and small rocks will hit the side of the car.
Aluminium body bruh
They have the HW but no SW for the autopilot
Great test&comparison video! Would it possible to test Lucid in future?
Any plan to test Xpeng G9？
Really looking forward to this one! But you can't even test drive it in Europe yet so I think it'll take a few months for Bjorn to get his hands on it.
Björn, do you check if the reported consumption is true? Seems like car brands can play with this number a bit to look a bit better compared to others. Do you measure total energy used after a run by charging up to the same level (100%) and noting the amount of kWh the charger delivers? In the end, this is what we pay.
If they survive 5 years from now I might consider. But right now, as cool as the car is, your also risk buying into a car company that having issues selling cars within its own domestic market in addition to cash flow problems. I've learned my lesson with Chinese stocks, all it takes is one little decimal place in the wrong spot in their accounting and the whole company goes belly-up.
Great design, but I really dislike the camera humps above the windscreen...
Your yoyo on speed regulation is certainly a bad PID tuning !
Nio is thinking different and in my opinion has some of the same quality's and fun thinking as tesla. Their system is very good and is getting better all the time. I am a fan and simply think it is a great car. Lot of power as well
Ding dong, the plane landed.
21:15 isn't that a protection for delivery? I think the mirror looks better without it
I thought so as well. As the protective on the instrument cluster is also still attached.
to nio: let us disable ALL sounds or selected sounds ._.
The car should be silent when CEO is sitting on backseat and have a business call.
Any recommendations for a car that isn’t loaded with bloatware in the form of excessive silly tech that isn’t actually needed, dreamt up by the marketeers and execs, adding huge costs to a car sticker price?
An analog car? Any car with a bit of electronics isn't really necessary. A century ago cars could also drive but didn't even come with indicators... Even a Tesla like @squick1842 mentioned is loaded with camera's and sensors witch you don't really need. A backup camera? Just look out of your window. Parking sensors? Just watch your surroundings and get to know how big your car is.
@@TrustedHealer58 aye, the issue, as I see it anyway, also reaches a broader context, not only cars. My independent garage I take my Mazda to admitted that in a few years time they might pack it in as the tech in cars is getting to a stupid level where hugely expensive diagnostic equipment is needed to diagnose a car fault and then fix it. That is a sad situation. Dealers charge a kidney or two to fix even minor issues and quite often it is not diagnosed correctly at the first pass as the tech makes it so complicated to ID a fault. [A Mazda dealer quoted me £450 to fix my sat nav, insisting that a new chip was needed. I googled the issue and discovered that a simple fix corrected the issue which was well-known. I have a tyre pressure sensor that the dealer and independent tried to fix and couldn’t. Still not fixed to this day. And I cannot disconnect it as it is a so-called safety feature. Just a few examples of many tech-based issues].
And yes, even a Tesla is software heavy.
Tech = buggy.
Thank god seat belts aren’t software-based.
An analogue car would be a dream. No dodgy electronics that fail and which can’t be fixed without hooking up to a computer.
I’m tired of tech that exists for no reason at all other than to part people from their cash.
And yea of course there is tech that actually is beneficial.
21:25 I know why you keep getting buggy press cars.
It's because the cars are not built very well. They are all going to be like that.
and how do you know? stop talking nonsense kiddo. having been in some, they're built very well.
That rubber band is most likely transport protection from factory and should be taken off before delivery to customer.
@@hanjfyrnj 😂
Keep grasping at straws.
@@maejshbrail2233 😆 I've seen better built 1970's British cars.
@@FFVoyager
Garbage. Nios are way ahead of British. Range Rover, world record for championships in unreliablity.
Nio hide some battery capacity under 0%, you can safely drive 20km. I think you mess up with Nomi, since most nio owners like nomi very much. The European version software still has long way to go.
Most EVs will hide some capacity below 0 %. Just look at my zero mile tests.
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I would have one without momi mate. hehe! or xpeng g9
If I'm not mistsken Bjorn, all the "voices" annoying information can be muted off very quickly using the screen. Another YT creator showed how the other day.
I have already shown that in the video. Did you miss that part? Maybe you muted my voice? Lol
didn't they say it goes 1000km ?
Any recommendations for an ev that doesn't bing at you or has any piano black or glossy screen or camera in your face?
@@squick1842 Newer Tesla models do include a camera that monitor the driver. Also when autopilot is engaged there are sounds/bings.
Probably something cheap or an older model. Newer cars get quite a lot of safety equipment for the 5 star ratings at crashtests. Even the Seat Mii Electric I'm driving dings when the lane assist gets upsets. It is posible to turn off the lane assist but everytime you turn on the car it's back on again. The VW e-Up before the facelift with the smaller battery doesn't have lane assist but city brake witch probably won't get activated that often I hope.
Haven't been this early in a while
01:48 Giving press car without removing the screen protector 😅
A true Asian will keep the protective plastic until the day the car is sold!
at the moment every car kills my bank debit.
the rubber band xD
We used to have a 10y old Trabant 601 in 1996 with the same rubber band issue on its mirror.
@@Bazs Trabant was ahead of its time!
Which battery is this? 100 or 150?
150 kWh not available yet
Title of the video...
for me, battery swap would work only if I would own the car with a battery, and when swapped, the newly installed one has guaranteed minimum SOH (eventually tied to mileage of the car)
Et7 seems to be a fail.. many different reviews about this car, some love it, some hate it..
There are rumors about an et7 facelift coming soon.. let’s see, a lot of things to do! 😔
They have the technical expertise when they are able to make a more quiet car than eqs that is faster and lighter for half the price. But then they cannot make a lane keep assist work even if they have cameras and lidar for several thousand euros. 😡Hope all this is fixed in the facelift.
@@Lucas-wp2phWhere is it half of the price? it costs 91tEur in Germany. EQS 450+ starts with 109000, but with much bigger battery and without so huge bugs.
I really do not know who would buy this car in Europe for this price, it is rediculuos.
If they would bring some reliable small cars, like Huyndai did, they might be getting a chance to proof they can do nice cars. But just to bring so expensive and not competitive product into premium segment, where the decision mostly made based on image of the company, it is just a strategic fail. Nio can get their market share only by lowering priced by MUCH.
@@yegorrussalev6614 A similar equipped eqs that is as fast as this et7 is more than twice the money. And still has a noisier interior.😢And if the eqs is built the same way as the latest s-class then it is a big plastic POS.
Majority of reviews are very good. Multiple awards in Europe despite a couple of months in. These negative reviews are mostly pro Tesla channels like this one and Viking. "It's All Electric" channel did a long test and Nio won without problems...
@@protagonist9716 It is 90% great but the final 10 is missing. But they already said a facelift is coming as soon as this year to fix the fixed back seat and other issues. Let us hope they also fixes the software issues.
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yo what's up?
It may be designed in germany, but it ends with the Chinese having the final say, a weird mish mash of design languages trying to base it on other cars. Lacks the execution of actual german brands
NIO is nice - TESLA has the supercharger. PERIOD
To be fair to the EQS it was on fat ass tires. Would have been fun to have seen at least one test with the 19" basic tires on that car but no the importers always insist on slapping on the biggest thing they can find.
EQS doesn't have heatpump so it's doomed to have high consumption in winter.
@@bjornnyland indeed it will, but 21" 265 tires doesn't help. And I don't think hardly anyone has tested it with basic tires, winter or summer, maybe a reason to borrow an EQS again. :D
@@bjornnyland Hmm, from this year onwards, on sedans also, they have...? If this is true, it would be awesome to have a comparison test from you...
91k in Germany for 100kWh battery. Insane
@@BenjaminD84
Keep buying expensive German compromised sedans like i7 then...
@@BenjaminD84 yeh like he would care about some1 low life like u haha
Wow, rattling trim and falling off rubber ring, this media car is so poorly maintained that it effectively falling apart. It looks like Nio Europe as a LOT of room for improvement.
They forgot to take off the rubber ring.. It's a frameless mirror..
i wasnt even asked if i like that shit =(
Yeah I get 285 miles from my 64kwh Kona so not impressed with same range from this 100kwh car , though maybe couldn't quite do it at -1c
You get 460 km range in your Kona in summer. You can't compare that with this result. In winter, your Kona can go only 350 km (220 mi).
That display look like some put on the Tesla with android auto.
..after driving this for just over 1000km I can unequivocally say that it is a worst piece of shit I have ever driven in over 37 years of driving and having driven over 1000000km in my life..
I am slowly giving up on Nio. At least BYD and Xpeng manage to drive 1000 km without drivetrain errors, ding-dongs aside. :)
If I have to choose between Nio, BYD and Xpeng, I would go for Nio any day.
@@bjornnyland Yes of course: built quality, materials, styling are indeed superior but the issues you had are a bit worrying. They do not seem to be SW glitches as it seemed at first at your failed 1000 km test. I was really fond of Nio but I would not pay 70k EUR+ for a beta car.
@x xznn_x interesting to see how their G9 will do. But I don’t get the Li hype. Those are hybrids and not interesting in my eyes.
Go watch It's All electric channel they did long route didn't find no problems on Nio
Again.. another weird software implementation, charge speed and AP issues, and dings/dongs in another Chinese car.. such a shame
Just full of gimmicks that are nice to have but not adding value
Insulting to be asked to pay almost 6 figures for a rattling piece of junk with barely functional software
lol: Why is it driving like this? --> Dear Bjorn, because it can do it like this and the Human that trained the auto drive system kinda drives like an Asian driver....
Annoying dings and dongs, rear mirror falling apart, not getting advertised charge speed, shitty sound system, digital kid nanny and a pricetag of 71k euro .. i don't think nio will sell a lot of cars.
in china, the EVs sold by BMW and Mercedes is considered as "rubbish", because the bad performance of electric motor, and the low success rate. In china, BMW and Mercedes 's EVs can only sold by very very huge discount. Can you believe that the EQC of Mercedes's price drop 400k RMB in just few months, about 57k US dollars or just EURO. Because the good performance for NIO Li AUTO, XPENG, BYD and high competence😢
Battery swap adds weight, and may expose batteryconnectors to mud water ice and salt. In 5 years we will know how it went.
no china car for me i see, its enougth with one angry woman at home.
Good luck with Chinese technology.
5 min are vi living in a ding ding ding world or dong dong ding dong car world. Quiet car, no , too many ding dong sounds.