Is Omega about to Release the 60th Anniversary Seamaster 300? (165.024)
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- A Discussion around Omega, their absence and the chance of them Reissuing the 60th Anniversary Seamaster 300. 1963 was an important year for Omega, for the first time placing the Seamster in a Professional Case. A very popular choice for recreational swimmers and divers, a few year later it would be a watch chosen by the Ministry of Defence and serve as the primary template for later evolutions of the infinitely more popular Rolex Milsub. COMEX would then also accept these Seamaster 300's for a time. The significance of this Seamaster is difficult to measure, not only how it developed as a sports watch but how it pushed the future of the dive watch as a tool and instrument.
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Intro 0:00
Where is Omega 2023? 1:05
The Current Seamaster 300 2:45
Omega Limited / Special Edition / Anniversary Watches 3:22
The 165.024 Seamaster Origins 4:34
How Omega Seamaster 300 Impacted the Military 5:10
Why is the 165.024 Seamaster Special? 8:53
Conclusion 9:20
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Omega has been very quiet for 5 months, it’s the Seamaster 300 165.024’s 60th Anniversary Year and Omega doesn’t like to miss their 60th Anniversaries. What do you think? Will we be seeing this brought out as a Reissue / Special Edition? Everything seems to be pointing in that direction BUT we’ve been disappointed before ;)
Honestly I’m not bothered if they don’t. I think Omega has had problems recently fulfilling orders from snoopy, Ed white and others plus Aqua terra dial problems/ delays. They need a quiet year I think.
@@solanpepper5762 It sounds like they've really been on the back foot with supply lately 🥃
I'd love to see it happen! Bring back the 300 as it was, and also with variations to make it more modern.
I dream of this reissue
I think a better move than releasing a reissue is to release a thinner Planet Ocean but with 300 WR in a 40 or 42. Since the 165.024 is what the PO is trying to be, then this move would be the perfect nod to the vintage Seamaster without overshadowing both it and the SMP.
As an omega fan boy this is my ultimate tease. Keep up the great content. 👏🏼👍🏼
It would be amazing to see it realised and since they smashed it with the 57 Trilogy and Ed White, it just feels correct that they'd drop the 165.024 😉 A pleasure to share this Wills and thank you!
@@ID-Guy i certainly agree, I have the 57 trilogy Seamaster 300, and what a fantastic timepiece . Closest watch in my collection is a cwc 1980 Royal Navy divers watch , from old / new stock. I get great pleasure from wearing it, but a 60th omega 300 diver with the sword hands & aesthetics would’ve simply another jewel in the omega crown.
My favorite omega by far. The only omega I'd take over a sub.
Omega was first, don't forget it...
Once again, a fantastic dive into watch history, presented exceptionally well. I can only imagine the hours and hours of research that goes into your videos. Well done!
This man has been right about every prediction so far so I believe him.
It's all inside information I swear (I wish) Thank you brother! Logic and watch releases never go hand in hand 😂
Always nice hearing someone talking watches and bringing a refreshing angle to it!
Really appreciate it Flaan and thank you brother! 🥃
Best place on UA-cam for seamaster passion! Thanks again for another perfect video🙏 🎉
The Seamaster love will always be deep here. Something so special about all of them and their development (overshadowed by the other more popular dive watch from the crown 😉)
As an owner of the Seamaster 300 Co-Axial from (2014 model) I am glad to see this video with all the information, thank you. Let's see what Omega brings to the table. However, for me personally, the newer developments are more of a step backwards in design and affordability.
I was very happy with my little Omega trio ( 3861 Speedy Hesalite, SMP Professional 300 white dial and the Aqua Terra 41mm blue dial ) until I watched this video 😂😂…. Thanks for another stellar episode - your content is absolutely next level
Thanks a ton Sumit. Ah, it's all just a guessing game from my end... but if they were to give us this watch... it would shake up many, many collections (mine included) 😆 Much love brother 🥃
I am drooling waiting on this. Hopefully, it happens!
Hey. On your intro I was saying yes, yes and smiling 😄
Of course they are making it. And if they make it a VIP-only product like the Snoopy or the recent aluminum 007 piece I will be BEYOND furious.
Really hope it will be more like the CK859, a Special Edition that doesn't have a production number. I agree, if they make it for the VIP's... well then they kill the whole point of it 🥃
@@ID-Guy I have the 1st-gen Planet Ocean and the Tudor FXD that you have. I like those watches specifically because they remind me of the 1963 Seamaster 300. I will be heartbroken if Omega offers the anniversary piece only to people with $30,000 purchase history, which is what happened in my country (Korea) with the Snoopy, etc.
I rewatch your other 165.024 videos all the time. I hope you’re right this time and I hope it’s accessible when it does drop! But this one would be worth waiting for
Fingers crossed brother. You predicted this a few months back. This would be so good. Another great video, thanks!
This is the year for it, so who knows 😆
Brilliantly done
Excellent video. We can only hope
Id love to have the Rolex 6150 as a birth year watch . Great video i hope your right about this release my favorite Omega . God Bless 🙏
Hope Omega will listen to you and her fans and will release my grail watch, the one and only competitor of the Submariner… if Omega would have give continuity to that model, as Rolex did, nowadays would have a different commercial impact.
It's going to happen. Seen them toying with this model in promo videos all over the place for the last few years 😉 But then, maybe they'll wait for the "Big Triangle" model? Maybe they'll give us both 🔥
@@ID-Guy I love the 3 numbers and date, great balance and daily watch. I would sell all the others watches. I would build an equestrian monument to the ID guy. And I would cultivate a subtle interior happiness for the rest of my life. May the god of Time bless you… 🤗😁
@@papalimbo Thank you Papa ;) Also really dig the 166.024 and that arrangement with the date. They have so many options to play with, it's unreal! 🥃
The helson shark master 300 is the available right know 👍
Would love to see it be released!! Great vid as always, keep up the good work!
Fingers crossed and thank you as always Vaughan! Much love brother! 🥃
the OMEGA 2254.50.00 / 2264.50.00 is still m favorite watch of all time
Dude you have called some spot on, with some taking years to materialize. I’m with you on this one
Great historical recap. Too many Limited Editions by Omega. Love the reissue (60) of the Seamaster! However, the 300 is the best looking well balanced watch in my opinion. I have the 2222.80 Brosnan reissue. I love it! Don't need another Helium Escape Valve. I think you are right about a reissue of the 300. Omega will wait till the end of the year for this one, (fingers crossed).
Bought mine in 1979 and it has been in my family ever since. Has it completely rebuilt in 2010 by Omega, kept all the old parts. The only weakness was the bracelet which was never man enough for the job. Contained small springs like the early submariners. Much better on a NATO.
The Omega certified shop in the Burlington Arcade in London, always has a good selection of Seamasters from different eras, you probably know it. Always good for a visit, thanks for the video.
I couldn't agree more. I almost press the trigger on an Omega Seamaster 300 Heritage (because it's awesome) but held off because of the new 8912 movement and the new Omega steel. I got a feeling that you are dead on on the 60th anniversary and won't be amazing with 8912 movement and the new Omega steel. Now that is worth standing in line to buy!
Love your content man. Thank you!
That is one of the best watch design. Serica has something very similar, this is why i love mine.
Serica have been making killer looking pieces! That GMT model of theirs is something else! 🥃
Greetings from Omaha, Nebraska! I agree with you. This watch is extremely important and I think it will happen this year. Thank you for another excellent video! 🥃
Great seeing you Alvin! We can only hope that Omega follows through (they have so many times in the past) 😉
@@ID-Guy I’m really hoping that they will do a 1:1 recreation. The vintage looks have a great appeal for me.
An exciting announcement. Can’t wait to see.
Awesome video
They should, because this is one of the best looking dive watches ever made.
These would sell like crazy. Especially if they have all the goodies of the co-axial movement and a top-tier flat link bracelet. Make it without a date for symmetry and it will be perfect.
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A remake of the 165.024 would be awesome! The big triangle version is my favorite. Until Omega comes out with it I’ll be wearing my Helson Sharkmaster 300😎!
I put mine back (12 & date) on even before that video ended. Greatest dive watch design ever.
Ah, the Helson. It's a piece that continues to ride under the Radar (And essentially build the modern template that Omega needs to follow for their variant 😆)
Omg! Ok. Loved this entire video (as always) and if omega did some kind of anniversary 165.024 I would absolutely DIE!! I go onto the omega website every day hoping there will be some teaser soon! 😅😂 for now, it’s always pictures of Eddie Redmayne in the Aqua Terra. 🙈
Outstanding video! Hopefully it’s this year.
Thank you Chris! A lot seems to be pointing towards it but we never know... they do LOVE their anniversaries though 😉
Matte, fully hashed, with sword hands will be perfection. The rest we can debate!
I hope so. An updated mil-Seamaster would be my dream watch.
Mavelous video thank you - you know I would no doubt miss owning one of these 60th Anniversary SeaMasters - but not as much as I & indeed countless others miss WRIST-SHOT WEEK those were the days my friend - we thought they'd never end 🎶🎵🎶
Been keeping an eye out for a diver watch in my collection. Maybe this will be the one
Great presentation, I truly hope you are right ! Omega are you listening! We Omega enthusiasts are waiting !
I'm sure if any brand is listening, it's Omega. They never miss and Anniversary opportunity 😉🥃 Thank you brother!
I like to see remake of the Seamaster 1000 in slightly smaller size like Seiko did with the SPB317 last year.
I’d love to see it, but like you said, I also fear the price 😢
Great prediction 🙌🏾 I love to see it with the big marker at 12 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
I'm still heartbroken that you sold your '57 (kidding) 😉 Imagine they gave us the "Big Triangle" - we can only dream. And man, amazed how you're getting on with your Explorer! 🥃
@@ID-Guy The big triangle is a thing 🙌🏾
The Explorer, argh man. It has changed everything. For the best!
It’s everything…
It’s either this or the 54 for me
Exciting times!
The guessing is always more fun than the final releases 😉
The Bond SMP should remove the helium escape valve. It’s like a wart on such a nice timepiece
Such a great video! Would love to make this my first Omega.
What a stellar Omega it would be... AND my first watch was the Seamaster 300, a piece that'll stay with me forever 🥃
I was absolutely certain that Omega would replace the 2014 Seamaster 300 heritage with this and was genuinely surprised with what we got in 2021 with what was almost a "Blackbay-ification" of it instead.
It was a peculiar choice they went with... a more modern size but even older looking dial than the original Ck2913. Since that's now their "heritage" 300, maybe they'll allow for this Special Edition 300 to slot in there somehow? 🥃
I could imagine they'll do a normal steel version and some exotic titanium or ceramic version as a limited edition knowing Omega. The issue they've always had with the SM300 Heritage is it sat awkwardly in the middle of the SM300Pro, Planet Ocean, Black Bay and Submariner (back when they were available), and depending on what price and style most consumers wanted, they would tend to gravitate to the other alternatives. I can see this sitting awkwardly with the SMP and SM300 lines, but then again it is Omega and they aren't exactly miserly when it comes to additional product lines! 😂
9:50 I'd buy that right now.
Keep up the amazing work brother!
Personally, I believe the Trilogy Seamaster 300 is a hard act to follow, even if you get this prediction spot on (which, I'm sure you will you jammy sod!)
That trilogy collection... kid you not, if I had the cash lying around I'd be picking up the full set... They are such amazing pieces man. If they can do the same with the 165.024, what a killer 🔥Thank you brother 😉🥃
Great content and analysis as usual… one of these manufacturers should hire you!
It would be a dream, brother. I have a hope that one day one of the names we love reaches out 🥃
@@ID-Guy I probably speak on behalf of many of your viewers… many of your designs across Rolex and Omega are what they should release vs what they actually release. Keep up the amazing thought leadership and creativity!
I noticed you wearing a signet ring! Would love a video from you regarding the subject 🙏😁
A long time ago I had an SMP and found that even a little bit of water and I couldn’t hope to move the bezel. Then I got into the PO and after that I found the 165.024/5. I would love to see a premium new version of that come out.
Love it, but the one I'm waiting for is the 2254 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
2254 X-treme 🔥 Would be fantastic if they gave us a facelift! 🥃
I would love to see it, but it's not going to happen. It would compete directly with the [current] Seamaster 300 in their Heritage Collection. Which, not incidentally, was updated only a couple of years ago.
I feel you here, the SM300 name now seems to belong to the new heritage model. So if anything they'd have to call it the "1963 Anniversary" or something to spice it up. Like the "Omega Trilogy". Ah, we'll see 🥃
@@ID-Guy Agreed. If it's going to happen at all, it will definitely need a special name. Believe me, no one would want to see this watch more than myself. Fingers are crossed.
@@ID-Guy What do you think? The anniversary has basically come and gone. Will we ever see a reissue? Will we have to wait another five years?
6:47 - perfect. Oh, how I wish blancpain had used chalk-white pencil hands on their 43 bathyscaphe.
Freaking love those simple hands of the OG 165.024... more watches need them frankly 🥃
Great job. I can see an LE 1 to 1 for their loyal customers then a variant for the masses. You did highlight one small issue I have with the brand - the mind numbing list of variations. Before a trip to their website one really needs a good meal then a restroom break.
And from the reports that the W&W has turned into a zoo, who can blame them for not bothering?
I wish I could afford the 57. So nice
It's frustrating... I wish so many pieces today had far more realistic prices🥃
Great video. I wish Omega would take a different direction in releasing this watch by creating a more wearable Seamaster following in the footsteps of this design with no He escape valve. That release could be to the SMP what the Pelagos 39 is to the original Pelagos. Just an idea.
I really enjoy your content and insights!
Dive watch are supposed to be big, easy to read n tough why go smaller, get a dress watch instead.
@@odds-and-sods Why do a re-creation of a dive watch that is a tool watch for military use(the original is big n easy to read) n shrink it to 36-39 becos everyone want a smaller watch? Does that even make sense if they want to recreate it.. might as well start n new 38 line?
@@odds-and-sods agreed. It’s had 39.5 in mind
it would be nice to see white dial chrome bezel re edition of the seamaster form the brosnan era , i have the chrono version but would get the new version if it were available
First, congrats on 70k subscribers, well deserved. But when we talk 2023 releases, let's actually get a hold of something they released in 2022. In Australia that is almost nothing. Oh, and can you have a look at the new-gen DeVille which is brilliant and almost NO-ONE is talking about it.
This has always been my grail Seamaster. I love the 165.024
It's a real legend and everything is pointing to them giving it to us BUT I've been wrong maaaany times before 😉
I've got my credit card ready if it comes out 🤞🤞🤞
Let's hope so. On my last visit to my local Omega factory boutique I was gifted a thick omega museum glossy magazine. This watch featured heavily in that magazine.
They really seem to be promo'ing it a lot, right? I've noticed tonnes of them in ads and other promos (like in their museum) over the last few years 🥃
....and the long march continues. 🍻
I'd be first in line for this!
Purchased a 1963 one a month ago. Mark 1 bezel (thin font), SWISS MADE dial without the 'T's, 1506 bracelet, naiad crown, the works. Unfortunately you cannot wear it often precisely because it is rare and in very good condition. No diving, not at work, not when travelling. More like for quiet weekends...
I most certainly hope yo are right, but it seems Omega has reserved the professional case for the Plane Ocean series. Without the helium escape valve I could actually consider getting one (as I could consider any Omega diver without it...).
Even if Omega did bring back the old Seamaster 300, I don’t have any faith in their design department to get it right. They’ll do at least one thing to botch it, like put a count down bezel on it, make it larger, use the skeleton hands, etc.
*The only change I wouldn’t mind seeing is a switch to the standard round hour markers/cross layout found on the current Seamaster Co-axial (and most other divers). That would be a proper merging of the past & present designs I could get behind.
The only thing that bothers me is they might make an excellent 1:1 recreation of the watch but the thickness might be an issue...somehow they end up cranking out 18mm thick cases and find it acceptable 😆
CWC MK2 watches look like this.
They based their design around the Seamaster 300 specs in a lot of ways, pretty awesome how they were able to keep the template 🥃
Here's hoping - an excellent, impassioned plea! I'd agree, if it wasn't for the Fifty Fathoms. SWATCH cannot afford to queer the pitch for Act 3, which will make or break Blancpain over the short term. They are notoriously careful about crashing big releases - the delayed Type XX held back the Air Command but then the whole retro pilot thing was pulled in response to Breitling's AVI 765 (you'd have thought a trivial matter). As the anniversary of the Seamaster is slightly variable depending on version, they could easily claim next year (or '25, '26, '27...) was the anniversary. But I'm as eager as you - the only everyday diver at the level of the Sub, though I'd like to see a modern update to the design, sans the normal Omega glitz and whimsy.
I think Omega should take some of their vintage designs back, and change a bit more than a color, or a small change on the dial or bezel. Thanks mate for the video.
I really hope the Planet Ocean line gets a refresh as well. I have a 2201 and think they only got worse from there.
I want this watch, unless they put on a date
Good lord I hope so!
Hope is all we have 😆
I’d die for a modern reincarnation of this watch! FMD!!
I hope you’re right! We’re certainly due a new Planet Ocean: perhaps it’ll get thinner! 😉
It'll be 20mm instead of 18mm thick, guaranteed 😆🥃
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I really hope you're right about it coming out. I really hope you're wrong about it being an expensive 321 Ed White type of product. A 1:1 reissue would have me reaching for my credit card without a doubt... but there's been something about Omega these last few years that makes me think that they can't quite trust their original designs. The 1957 Trilogy was the last time they did and that was quite a while ago now...
The 321 Ed White reissue is a case in point - why the sapphire sandwich? It's not historically correct or space-compatible, and while I get that the movement was a thing for many collectors who might like to see it, strange that they don't offer it in the hesalite/solid case back flavour.
And so, I find it difficult to believe that Omega is capable or reissuing the 165.024 1:1. A display case back seems inevitable. While I hope to be proven wrong, I am preparing for disappointment. Fingers crossed.
Man if this comes true would be so nice 🤩! But I just bought the Tudor BB54 😅
Hold onto your BB54. It's such a stellar lil watch... freaking love how under the radar it is - makes for an amazing daily, right? 🥃
@@ID-Guy it is an amazing watch I bought for my 40th. I wanted to buy a dress watch first, since I mostly own divers, including the phenomenal Omega Seamaster '57 Trilogy, but I realized I don't need one. When I saw the BB54 it was love at first sight, although I never considered a Tudor before and wasn't a big fan of the BB58. The BB54 is so beautifully done, it's so versatile, refined, and charming that it assumed the vacant role of the dress watch in my collection 😍
Since Omega seems to gave struggled to get 2022 launches into ADs, even now, I do wonder if there are ‘issues’ behind the scenes? Only now is Omega advertising last year’s OP-a-like multi-colour Aquaterras - at the end of your video in fact 🤔
Perhaps the reason for silence is practical, pragmatic? Somehow I think we’ll be waiting a while longer…
There could absolutely be a problem behind the scenes. Been hearing about many delivery delays to AD's too. Maybe we'll be getting a 1965 variation of this watch instead 😆
@@ID-Guy 😆😂🤣
I can’t wait for this, limited to 60007 units world wide and 18mm thick. Come on baby
Lets make it 165,024 units and 20mm's thick and we have a deal! 😆🥃
That Seamaster would be the real Rolex killer, and probably my next and last one. But even Omega might consider what impact this watch would have on the rest of their collections. Would they replace or integrate it to the existing line...
Some questions that came to mind while watching: What was the very first Seamaster with a GMT hand? The first with a 24 hour bezel? Was it post-2000 or is there a historical reference? I wonder if the Seamaster 300 heritage line will see a GMT version, since they've been willing to add some modern elements to the latest iteration of it...
As Longines Ultra Chron, Pam299 and BreitlingSO fanboi, I could care less....keep it up!
Nearly pounced on an Ultra Chron a few weeks back. Such a killer piece Gel! Hope you're well brother 🥃
Man just one other thought...I LOVE you FXD and that nato look.. would you recommend it? I like how practical it is. Fixed lugs, thin, light, and looks great on natos.... maybe that's the watch i should look at. Not the BB54....i guess they are so different
Thank you brother! It has become my no.1 workout watch and is simply brilliant when it's put to work! But then as a daily driver, I'd say it doesn't get as much wrist time as the BB54 & SM300. It 100% feels like a tool and something that you'd take away with you if you were going to trek in the middle of nowhere. Bloody fantastic actually. I'd rely on this watch if I was lost at sea or stuck on an island... maybe that says more than most 😉 Night and Day difference to my other pieces though, this one feels like it was made to work 🥃
@@ID-Guy brilliant summary thanks man
Man but the current version is so so beautiful, it will be interesting to see how they beat it …
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I suspect that if they could get away with it, Omega would release semi-anniversary limited editions too.
I wonder why there was no mention of CWC. Almost exact same design and, my understanding, is that they are the only current supplier to the British armed forces. This all according to the Mad Watch Collector.
If Omega does release this, even if it's not limited, it could cost about £8k. Meanwhile, the FXD, a watch with a similar ethos and heritage is under £4k - and in Ti! The state of the watch market....
In my opinion, the closest Omega has come to reissuing this design was with the 2201.50; specifically, the dial. Take that dial, add the fully graduated bezel, and you've got a pretty close reissue.
nope 2254.50 !!
Omega is currently working on the Seamaster Paris 2024 !
I think it will be issued as a special edition because it wouldn’t make a lot of sense from a business perspective to keep redesigning every 2 years. That’s a lot of changing in parts,etc. which is very costly
These will definitely be a Special Edition of some sort (hopefully done tastefully 😉)
I hope they release it, but I am sure it will be as limited and wait listed as the Ed White. Probably in the same price range as well...
Plexi and sapphire versions like the Speedmaster would be a win! (For me at least) 🎉
Badass seeing this watch with Plexi, but I must say Omega nails Sapphire when they do it right. After owning the SM300 for over 3 years, I worked out about a month ago that the use AR on the underside. The crystal looks so much like acrylic 🥃
Isn’t it the 60th year of the 165.014? That’s the reference I really want but I’d happily hand over my money for either
Hey we never know! The 014 might get its time in the spotlight (actually thought about it a lot) Since it falls into that "transitional" region, I don't think Omega would put it ahead of their 024 BUT man... give me a straight lug case any day 😉🥃
I wouldn't mind if they used the Planet Ocean platform for this. Of course, a '57 trilogy approach would be coolest. But if they tweak an existing platform, like with the anniversary Bond Seamaster, the Planet Ocean is the one. Heck, the first gen 2201 POs the were clearly a "grandchild" of the mil-spec Seamaster 300. The modern POs are too shiny and luxury-centered, but replacing the bezel with aluminum (or matte ceramic / brushed steel etc.) and adding a custom dial and handset would go a long way.
Personally, I'd love a 60th anniversary 300. However, I think they've been quiet as the roll out of last year's Aqua Terra in the colourful dials, plus the green SMP300 has been difficult to say the least. I was in Switzerland a few weeks back and the Omega boutiques in both Zermatt and at Zurich airport didn't have any 2022 models for sale. They had them in the store, but as 'preview models'. It's been a shambles.
There has to be supply issues holding them up. I've heard numerous reports that are the same about the lack of stock! Crazy to think... maybe they really are very, very behind on schedule 😆🥃
Every time I watch one of your videos I want to buy another watch …..
It's a dangerous, dangerous game 😆