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Woah, your content has really sunken low Upper Echelon! Half the video is just stupid advertising. And this is another video where you're basically just passive aggressively attacking Elon Musk. You obviously have something against the guy. What ever your reasons, it looks like your salty about Musk acquiring Twitter. This is really not a good look for you! Unsubscribed.
If twitter crashes and burns, that's good. If the site improves, that's good. The only bad possibility is if nothing changes. Twitter literally cannot get any worse
Can you send people to prison for it? It's more like a violation of company rules and would result in you being fired or at most paying a fine if damages could be proven.
never say "it can't get worse"... because some people will take that as a challenge. That being said, I do agree with you that either it improves or it crashes and burn are the 2 best scenarios.
All the news publications are freaking out over this because Twitter is where they get all their information. They desperately don't want it to go because if it does they'll have to actually hire real journalists who know how to cover a story the right way.
We can't lose here. Even if twitter crashes and burns, we'll all be better for it. Can't deny I'm enjoying the three ring circus. The whole White House kerfuffle is pure comedy gold. Facebook fact checking the twitter fact checkers. You can't make this up.
If twitter crashes and burns that is a bad thing. Twitter right now is the insane asylum of the internet. If that goes away and twitter dies those nutjobs will just find themselves on other platforms and ruin them eventually. It's like what happened when tumblr died.
@@commander2552: If Twitter users migrate, Discord and Reddit both have an advantage here. On those platforms, there are sections for different subjects. That will contain the toxicity to specific sections. The hobby-based or passion-based communities will be less affected.
Same. I've all but ignored social-media over the years, so watching twitter burn while facebook gradually drowns into irrelevance has been mildly amusing
Same, the closest thing to social media I have is a youtube account. Life is actually so much better and many problems just disappear out of your life when you finally get rid of all of it. It's not Twitter or Reddit or Facebook or Instagram it's all of them, cancer for the own mind.
didnt you see what happened with tumblr? when they banned porn, the users of tumblr INSTANTLY went straight for twitter and reddit, if twitter was deleted or ruined, the same thing would hapoen AGAIN, though it might be even worse since twitter is so much bigger and there would be even less places for the twitter-ers, so they would likely all go to reddit, and turn it into even more of a cesspool than it already is. So it's actually good if Twitter stays, as it basically functions as a "contaiment site" for these toxic people. doin' ya mom, doin' doin' ya mom
IMO he could probably get his advertisers back just by shutting his trap for a while and letting things blow over, but he's just too much of an attention whore to do that. It's incredible how stupid he actually is.
When social media stops being a means of making money just by getting a view or a like, that'll happen. YT and all else should have never been a means of making a business. It was always supposed to be petty entertainment/maybe insightful news. Sorry not sorry to all those who make their money through being a "content creator". No product is provided here. And before people forget again, a product is something that is physical and can be used. Else you're just buying hype and trust in words.
I loathe normies, these disgusting dumb vote-for-clout filth are what enable the world to become a shitty dystopia. They are everywhere, they still wear n95 masks and fall for every "trend". Im sick of these filthy sub-human types that say "vote blue no matter who" and move to another state and do the same thing. They never learn, just adopt narratives fed through a television screen and a tabloid article. If these people are smart as they claim to be then they should have figured things out by now. They often take SSRI's and and leech income off other people through the welfare system and if you say something about it then you are deemed as a "racist nazi bigot" and make out that you're just the worse
I have zero respect for the man, but he's (unintentionally) made Twitter the most entertaining it's been in years. Dude's turning himself into a lolcow and he's taking down Twitter and Tesla with him.
I view it more... Twitter Dies: Hilarious Win Twitter Improves: Interesting Win I'd rather be a bit more optimistic because this is all fucking chaos. It's chaos, no one knows what's going on, and ancient Chinese saying goes, "In chaos, there is opportunity."
Option 3: Twitter does both, it improves while it is dying and reaches a critical point where Musk proves he is right... but gets blindsided when he bankrupts himself in the process, crippling Tesla and Space-X in the process. His cars and rockets are years behind schedule at this stage and his companies are intertwined with his bank debts for the purchase. This will be a win lose... cause the economic impact of a major industry failure for musk will effect his whole empire, all his employees during an impeding recession.
Unfortunately if twitter dies, another platform will just become like twitter. The social media addicted zombies need their fix after all. So unless all of social media implodes, twitters death wont really matter.
Elon Musk is one of the few powerful people standing up to the communist/fascist/socialist takeover of the world. If we lose him as an ally, we lose a lot more than just Twitter
Twitter had 2000 employees in 2012. After 5000 additional employees, we still didn't get an edit button or any other notable feature in a decade. Twitter has massive bloat.
Not only that most other websites of similar size run with far less personnel. Reddit for instance has 700 Employees. So why does twitter need around 5000 ?
I always wanted Twitter to crash and burn. But dying like this means the people who needed to learn the lesson the most will come away with an excuse for why it failed that absolves themselves.
It's just a massive loss for Elon. After Twitter collapses, some other similar platform is just going to quickly fill the vacuum left behind and have similar moderation imposed due to the pressure imposed advertisers.
But why? I honestly can't understand this hate. I don't use twitter, I don't use tiktok. I have a facebook account, I check it 2-3 times per month, I post something maybe 2 times per year. If I don't like something, I simply ignore it and don't use it. I can understand when you have something that's impossible to avoid, but something that you can totally avoid and don't interact with... why not simply ignore it?
@@MannIchFindKeinName yea, lets help make it die faster. [but seriously though tiktok themselves are responsible for many many thing that people wished it would never happened to them or their children]
japanese twitter users (the 2nd most twitter user, after usa) absolutely loves elon. They've been getting angrier because the things trending there are enraging (politics, racismus, kpop, communist party, etc). They've been gaslit by the left wing moderation commissars about what is trending and popular. The moment elon locks all the activists out, suddenly japan gets all their grassroots interest back, such as: anime, sports, manga, movies, etc back. no one is putting their finger on the popularity scales again.
Yah, people do get kind of stuck in the "US" mindset. This is going to be good for most people as the rabid leftoids leave. It might actually attract people like who never had it to begin with...but probably not. I can't stand social media, even YT is rough.
@@BearPawSwipe I think most people have been misled by the activist commissars. They believe that social media is and always has been toxic because of recency bias. Look at the internet before trump took office, there's problems here and there of course, but they're mostly isolated. The moment trump took office, the division and anger in social media suddenly flares up. It will be interesting to see if elon is successful in fixing twitter. We might found out that all that anger and resentments have been manufactured, and we're all gaslit just to create division. If he fails, then maybe social media really is the worst creation of humanity. It will be fascinating for sure, either way.
So funny how obvious the control on culture was on these platforms and if what you say is true then that means Twitter had given every govt access to control pop culture. Which is disgusting.
Everytime I hear UE say things like "there's more", "it goes deeper" and "it gets worse" I get increasingly more worried. Like bruh, we're approaching the core of the earth at an alarming speed, stop for heaven's sake or we gonna get evaporated 💀
You usually have all the facts right but the parody account thing was a rule a long time before elon ever talked about buying twitter. If it fails and goes away it would be for the better of humanity, hope tictock and "social media influencers" go away too. If what he's changing works out, it would radically change twitter and maybe it will be a half decent place.
Even if social media goes away, it won't make the current US administration go away with its terrible actions and propaganda. Too many people are naive and underestimating on the power of governments and big tech working together.
The former parody account rule (before Musk bought the platform) was also one of the reasons the blue-checkmark system existed in the first place. Now he wants to make it so that anyone can get a blue-checkmark, making the point of it completely redundant. It seems like Elon Musk completely misunderstood its purpose.
@@purplecipher6961 would like to remind everyone that Ethan Klein fully agrees that a private company can do whatever they want. And he did violate ToS. Never forget that he will always be a lolcow.
@@bandit6272 What are you talking about, "Fixed it for you"? Impersonating is absolutely against ToS. No one was banned for, "impersonating a comedian". They were banned for breaking ToS and Elon joked it was because she was impersonating a comedian.
theres also the gov portal that apparently alot of the major social media sites have now for the US three letter agencies to request expedited takedown requests, personally, i believe that to be a major reason that elon wanted to back out of the deal
A content creator of my youth, Captain Sparkles, pointed out that a small eight dollar 'investment' for scam or rug pull operations see this as a small fee for a lot of potential return. Not to mention the previous validation the checkmark will still carry for the next upcoming months or year since people will still have that ideology that the verification badge is a mark of legitimacy.
Screw Twitter. I don't even use the app. Since it's existence I've probably only "Tweeted" I think twice. Aside from UA-cam, I don't even use Social Media. No Facebook, no Instagram, no TikTok, no anything. In my opinion Social Media is the bane of all existence. Let it all burn.
@@andycopeland7051 I still don't get what car manufacturers have to do with this. Other than begging the government for bailouts and pushing "eco-friendly" cars in tandem with the government.
This channel is going through a few big changes atm, so I just wanted to say that the outro is often my favourite part of the vids. The music, the giraffe, I dunno why it works or why I like it exactly, but it adds something special to the end of the vids. Please don't change it!
Here in Brazil the clean up wasn't good enough, but came just in time. Every other platform is being heavily censored right now, the only decent place now for us is Twitter, where we are coordinating the protests. But bans are common.
Dude I’ve been following this closely and you have the most comprehensive video on all this information thanks for this good job as always. RIP Twitter.
So wasting 44 BILLION just to end Twitter? That's a MASSIVE cost just to do that. That much money could have be used in a million different better ways. I'm well aware that Twitter is a dumpster fire. The point I'm making here is that I highly doubt Elon would intentionally lose 44 BILLION just to tank Twitter. That's an absolutely astronomical amount of money.
I honestly have no idea where you got the idea that Musk was forced to buy Twitter. Was he forced to buy it at a heavily overrated price? Absolutely. However, Musk had made it clear time and again that he _wanted to buy Twitter no matter what._ Sure, he tried to get the price down to something more reasonable, and sure his investors wanted out of the deal, but Musk was ready to get the ball rolling on this venture from the get go and he made the reasons for this desire *_very_* clear. Other than that, good honest journalism as always.
I'm waiting to see... Had my account killed because they deemed my password suddenly insecure and I never updated my recovery email... So I'm in an endless loop (for years) of being told to update my password as soon as I log in, but unable to do it because they want to send me an email which can't get to me. If things continue on with bias removal, I'll make a new account.
@@volvo09 Twitter is inherently sh!t. The character limit is why it will never be of any real value to anyone. Everything that's worth talking about will necessarily require way more than even a 10 tweet thread can offer. How much more effort does it take to make a book than a business card? Then why are all the smart people not writing on business cards, then?! Good ideas are complex, they cannot hold in a tweet. Twitter is the TikTok of ideas. You'll learn more watching a good 20 minutes video once a week on UA-cam than reading a thousand tweets a week. Add to that that the real fun of Twitter was that leftists were there and you could argue with them... It's not 2015 anymore, there is no more making fun of their pathetic pronouns, now you go there to fight for kids so they don't get their genitals literally cut off... There's nothing fun about that... Do you really need a daily reminder that 40% of the population would send you to a concentration camp just to avoid coughing for 2 weeks? That 6 out of 8 teachers have a political agenda and are using children like cannon fodder? That non-leftists are so pathetic that they still haven't done anything about any of it? The world is sh!t, 40% of people are evil, 30% are followers that will kill a grandma if a figure of authority tells them to, that's it, I ruined it for you. You literally have no reason to go there... Ooops spoiler alert btw. Keep your neurons safe, do not make a new account. They'll thank you for it and actually spell it correctly...
@@SLRModShop I pretty much agree with you there, I think the charecter limit makes it worse, rather than being able to express a viewpoint, you have to condense it and that makes people add feelings and rage to the post.... The proof is just how unified these angry voices were for lockdowns and mandates, and politicians take this as the common voice... It currently only represents one voice, and we know those people are sitting on a chair at home or in a fluffy office setting, not building houses, fixing plumbing, repairing cars, or heavy machinery.
About the bannings: I think impersonation is one of the most important things to police when everyone can buy a blue checkmark. I even believe that might be the reason some of these "comedians" who impersonated Musk gave for doing this. Just think of the rampant UA-cam spam-bots that impersonate channel owners and ask commenters to text them and how much worse it would be if all these bot accounts were able to buy the same verification the channel owner has. That's why these accounts needed to be struck down hard and fast. Imagine what could happen if someone with a checkmark impersonates someone important and tweets nonsensical or harmful stuff (like they did with Musk in this case) or just decided to scam people. If they manage to convince enough people or the wrong people, they could wipe out billions of dollars in minutes or even start wars!
I would agree impersonation is an issue on any platform and is a valid Terms of Service issue... but Twitter didn't ban people for impersonating people. Musk only banned people for impersonating HIM! Thats selective, vindictive and abuse of position. Especially given his whole "Free Speech is Returning" rants, to ban people impersonating him as a parody, which is protected under the amendments. It really shows how impulsive he is. That move done nothing to reassure advertisers that he is being responsible in his role.
But they can't buy it, it's still gonna be verification that you're who you claim to be but you'll just have to pay. Proof of identity will be required
@@boxhead6177 This comment is completely nonsensical and ridiculous. 1. Who's saying no one else got banned recently for impersonating someone other than Musk? The reason we hear about the people being banned who impersonated Musk is that the whole world is closely watching his every move right now. He is one of the most influential people in the world at the moment, someone stealing his identity and running rampant could do tremendous damage! That's why these accounts needed to be taken down asap. 2. This is not an abuse of his position, this is Twitter adhering to it's own guidelines. 3. This has neither been "parody" nor has this been free speech. These people have taken his exact picture and name and have tweeted slanderous statements. This is close to identity theft and far away from anything resembling art, parody or satire. From what I've heard, Ethan Klein has tweeted stuff like "I drink my own piss" from his account, which could only be differentiated from the real one by the banner picture, which is only visible when you visit the account, and the little grey twitter handle most people don't even pay attention to. Cathy Griffin, I believe, used the "parody" to tweet political messages which might have been able to interfere with the midterms. What if I had a large twitter account and turned it into a Biden "parody" and tweeted at my followers "My dementia is forcing me to resign as of today. I've come to the conclusion, that the best way forward is for everyone to vote MAGA!"? Most journalist aren't very clever, I bet some of them would pick up the story. Would that be a funny parody or a severe interference with the elections? 4. I don't see how Musk banning impersonators that try to damage the platform even more than it already is will affect advertisers more than woke NGOs threatening to start smear campaigns if they don't condemn free speech and pull their ads. 5. It's a private company. Musk can do with it whatever he wants. Hasn't that been the argument until a while ago?
@@nathankarn5557 Of course. But it seems like it will still be possible to change the name and the picture, so it would be easy for someone who doesn't care about the repercussions to start an account, get verified and then change it to something completely else, maybe to impersonate someone.
thing is People Warned Elon Muskrat even before this shit show happened. he replied saying that wouldnt happen, effectively denying itd be a problem. and in good fashion people Proved him right by impersonating HIM! desptite getting their accoutns suspended, they made a point, got ignored then proceeded to prove their point. Muskrat isnt a intelligant man, that is known and hes a colossal narcisist. wether its against the rules or not, Muskrat did this all to himself.
The idea that so many people have information that would tank a company if they lost their jobs means there is either incompetence or cronyism going on behind the scenes. Neither is healthy for a company
Or a smart security backup. If the controlling party(parties) knew about even the slightest remote chance of a takeover and the possibility of the high influential platform could be use against them, why not have it set up to fail if the new owner(s) decided to get rid of old staff making the platform ineffective and useless?
It was not punishable by an immediate first-offense permaban before though, now it is. That's the key factor. Like Dankula impersonated Trump as a joke and he got temp suspended and then fixed his account to be in compliance and it was all good. The reason that Ethan and Kathy got banned is because they did their shit AFTER the change in policy and didn't properly mark their account names for satire.
But in this instance Elon only applied it to people parodying him... and only him. No other parody accounts were taken down in such a quick, impulsive, abuse of power manor. This is what the advertisers and users were afraid of, him doing what he wants, when he felt like it.
I have not seen anyone buy a company and not clean house. What’s the point of business as usual? Now it’s a big deal if they lean right? Karma is a bitch.
That won't mean anything unless those users stick around *and* can be monetized. IDK if it can be pulled off, but I'd have more faith in Musk doing it then the prior group or any other bit tech guy or corporation right now. LIke 20% sure Musk could do it, 5% sure others would be able to do it.
@@FallingPicturesProductions every company will pay. It is cheap advertising just to have an account. 10mil businesses in USA alone. but yeah, we'll see what the mad lad does.
Who were these magical "60 activist" groups looking at boycotting twitter? I work in media and most media managers would have a responsibility to avoid paying for controversy - which Elon seems to love, and also cheer on "free speech" . Media folks I know are pulling spend from twitter plainly because of all the things Elon is doing as well as poor performance in a down market.
Yeah. That's why I'm also wondering about the "rehiring" of employees because they supposedly know critical information. Most of the people that were laid off are going to be employed at Twitter for months, technically. That's ample time to make them turn over any information they have and even have them train the remaining workers/their successors. If I had to bet, the "rehiring" was barely more than a correction of mix-ups and emails being sent that state: "We know we've fired you and removed your batch access, but we still need you to come in for work for the next couple of months."
@@dh510 For coders, It's definitely management's correction of Elon's "lines of code = productivity" logic. Programming is about simple, concise, and elegant solutions. A person who is consistently writing a huge spaghetti out of every tiny problem is going to rank first, while an experienced engineer would likely end up somewhere in the middle or even the bottom half.
It just came out that Twitter had its highest user growth last week. The impersonation rule wasn’t new. People were given a warning to stop, some did but those that didn’t were banned. This is old policy for verified users. I think your bias against Musk is clouding your analysis. Not saying you have to change, just be aware of it. Saying “He made up a rule” about people making fun of him is wrong. The argument can be made that Kathy Griffen was election meddling when she was tweeting as Musk endorsing candidates.
TBF, this isn't the first time elon struggled like this. SpaceX was literally limping along at one point. It's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that he could salvage this in some way we don't see coming. Color me a hopeless optimist
Yes but they normally warned users before a suspension. Elon decided no warnings at all. Immediate perma ban for everyone and it happened coincidentally at the same exact moment that people were impersonating him for crude jokes.
@@UpperEchelon As far as I know and found, a parody account is something you can do (found on their website, rules and policy): "What is required under this policy? To avoid confusing others about an account’s affiliation, parody, commentary, and fan accounts must distinguish themselves in BOTH their account name and bio. Account name The account name should clearly indicate that the account is not affiliated with the subject portrayed in the profile. Accounts can indicate this by incorporating words such as, but not limited to, "parody," "fake," "fan," or "commentary.” This language should be stated in a way that can be understood by the intended audience. Please note, an account name is separate from the username (i.e. @handle). Bio The bio should clearly state that the account is not affiliated with the subject portrayed in the profile. Non-affiliation can be indicated by incorporating words such as, but not limited to, "parody," "fake," "fan," or "commentary.” This language should be stated in a way that can be understood by the intended audience. In addition to meeting these requirements, your account must be fully compliant with the Twitter Rules and Terms of Service." They did not add any words mentioned aboove, so the broke ToS. If I punch a beehive, I shouldn't be(e) - yes, I just said it - surprised if they come after me. Getting a perma ban for impersonating someone should be stated in their rules and ToS if not done so, yes. But if I were to impersonate someone in real-life, I don't get away with a warning either. For me, impersonating someone only has one purpose. Causing damage to the person you are impersonating. Sure, the @handle is still the old one, but seeing how much - and here are some of my favourite buzzwords - misinformation, disinformation or how many "conspiracy theories" are floating around, I think punishing people who do impersonate someone is a good thing. The screen name on Twitter is far more prominent than the @handle. So I guess - not know - that most people are more inclined to believe those big white letters saying "Elon Musk" and simply not looking at those small gray ones next to it, especially if "Elon" posts something outrageous. More often than not, emotions take over and it's just going downhill from there.
To be fair: Porsche, Audi, Seat all run under the greater Volkswagen Conglomerate but the basic gist represented in your video nevertheless doesn’t change. Thank you for another great video! Keep up your good work. We need more good, capable journalists like you!
UE, here is another thing to consider when it comes to Auto advertising and their pullout and your next story: Auto mortgages are turning into a dumpster fire. Many banks have stopped buying Auto paper from Auto manufacturers as the the quality has dropped considerably i.e. people have bought cars they shouldnt and the loan-to-value are above 100%. Auto companies are going to drop advertising first from a business perspective since it quick recoups money by reducing expense.
From my understanding he bought it basically “as-is, sight unseen.” The fine to break the sale is only when it’s done it good faith. I could be completely wrong but the equivalent is like this. You buy a car, as-is sight unseen and only one picture from the front. You also DON’T ask any more questions (due diligence). When you go to pick up said car, you don’t like the moldy interior, bad motor, ect. It’s too late at this point and your only “out” is if both you and the seller agree. Again, I think that’s how this purchase was kinda structured from my arm-chair expert knowledge lol.
At no point was he "forced" to buy Twitter. He signed the fucking contract. This is like signing the closing documents on a house, demanding an inspection after the fact, then claiming you were forced to buy the house. He agreed to the god damn deal. Nobody forced him. The only thing that was forced was completing the deal he already agreed to in writing.
@@Ribby00When you sign a contract to buy a house, there are unspoken assumptions embedded within the word "house". One such criteria, might be that it is livable. Why else would someone buy a house? The contract doesn't need to specify anything about inspections if the sale was made under false pretenses, if what the buyer was buying, and what the seller was selling, was not actually a house. In the case of twitter, Elon was buying a social media platform, one of the assumptions of which, is that the platform has users, not bots.
I love how he demanded devs print out their code so he could have a look at it. Having written code for a much smaller project, I can guarantee if you printed out the code for twitter, there would not be enough paper or printers in the building for it.
If you can’t print it out for Twitter’s code then it will be some of the worst spaghetti code in existence. There is no reason for it to be that large.
@@hilkmeister1382 You'd assume that, but the platform isnt an easy thing. Its iteration upon iteration, with added algorithms, advertising and personalisation. It will be a lot of code.
@@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays If they were competent (yes big if) then they would have the code separated into classes and compartments so that a code review is possible and to minimize spaghetti code.
Also, the devs were fired based on the amount of code written. If you know anything about programming, you'd know that the most elegant and concise code is always the best. In just one policy you've fired all the best engineers at your company while showcasing to everyone that's left that the new management doesn't understand their job nor listen to anyone who does. This just seems like a person utterly clueless about programming demonstrating to us the definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
UE, you're absolutely wrong about the 'parody' part. Verified users cannot impersonate other users using their verified status. The entire point of verification is that you are who you say you are. This was in the TOS prior to him taking Twitter over, and he even gave the blue checks a special pass that they could do it if they included a parody tag in their profile. I love your work but this section wasn't accurate.
Hey mate, you guys came a long way but could you please start citing your sources? I know it's a bit of work but it would Realy get you those last few steps :) Keep up the good work
I can imagine a reason why Musky Boi would lie, that Twitter was doing shady things before - it could be a way to manipulate people's opinion. "They were scummy before, I'm here to fix it."; "They had a pay-to-verify system before, that only rich people could have, but I bring you an affordable subscription plan."
What do you think of the numbers that have been tossed around that say recently Twitter has seen an all time high in usage rates? Misinterpreted numbers, inaccurate data, temporary blip?
They gave him full access to "the firehose"... the intent was clear though. Give him "everything" but he would never be able to actually sort through it. Its a technicality they used to basically spit in his face.
@@BearPawSwipe Data without mapping though? Do we know if they gave him proper data mapping / documentation to actually do anything with the insane amount of data he got access to... Or did they just open the floodgates and wish him luck based on variable names and API endpoints? If so, then I'll agree with enough analysts and time they could start to provide meaningful reports. It would still take a lot of man hours but would be doable if he invested enough into his team. But without getting good documentation there is just no way he'd get it done in any reasonable timeframe for the acquisition (and possibly never depending on naming schemes and data types).
They gave him access to the fire hose but refused the tools needed to do anything constructive with it. All the data prior to the fire hose was scrubbed and curated for Elon's team. Agrawal said they couldn't hand over the tools needed as is violated user data protection.
If Twitter users migrate, Discord and Reddit both have an advantage here. On those platforms, there are sections for different subjects. That will contain the toxicity to specific sections. The hobby-based or passion-based communities will be less affected.
i agree these have great potential for growth, but they simply dont have the same appeal twitter has, especially for artists. although i'll admit im not into reddit so wont make any big claim, but discord? i feel like thats not the best place to grow
"The only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance" Albert Einstein The point about car makers pulling ads from Twitter was very insightful. Cheers and Happy New Year
Your work is invaluable, I want you to know that. You are one of the few sources I come to, especially on the nitty gritty tech and business side. Thank you always.
People have been saying that Elon Musk is banning people for parody-ing him. This is not the case. It has always been that parody accounts had to be clearly labeled. The lefties in charge decided that parodying Left wing politicians was a nono, even if it were clearly labeled, and the left and Elon's haters overwhelmingly defended this. I see it as them getting A. a taste of their own medicine, and B. a proper enforcing of the rules. And its also consistently applies. Count Dankula was banned for impersonating Donald Trump as well. He did not denote the parody on the account, and so people did think it was him. The lefts double standard is behind the complaint, and not any sense of fairness or "free speech" which they have crushed at every given opportunity.
All of this noise from elon appears (from my experience) to be about letting people know theres new management, that things will be run a bit different, the new boss does not take shit, and most importantly ripping the band-aid off as quickly as possible so things settle down faster and dont fester into bigger problems down the line.
He’s only been in charge for a few weeks. And I think everyone could agree it was obviously going to be chaotic when he took control (any major transition can be but this more than most) But predicting Twitter is in major trouble due to these few weeks or even months leading up to them seems a bit much. Give the man time to actually get used to being there and implementing things and tell me how they’re doing this time next year
Twitter now has a Billion $ yearly interest obligation and a spotty income history that doesn’t approach covering that. There’s a difference between ‘taking a wait and see’ approach and burying your head in the sand.
Jim Cornette recently talked about how to buy a blue checkmark if you want further verification about that matter. The video is on his UA-cam channel from about a week ago.
Elon must have excellent lawyers with his money, so it seems impossible that he didn't know what his options were with this buyout deal. Making a move to back out was most likely intended to get more info out of them or some other benefit, which means he had a genuine intention to buy it from the beginning.
makes no sense - he already signed the contract before he complained about lacking information why would he need further information when he already signed the contract? He is just a moron. Most likely Twitter will never again reach net profit. This is no surprise since they only had 2 years of that anyhow.
@@ObiWahnKnobi You dont get to be as Rich a Elon without listening to your Lawyers. Now he might have gotten a big head an thought he knew a bit more then he did. I dont think he thought things were as bad as they were. Twitters greatest Achievement was fooling so many for so long.
@@marasmorgean5813 I know of Elon because of all the stupid ideas he has tried to tell people he is definitely going to do in a Year, you know like Robots and stuff. Now I am no where near a Fan of his, but I am more then happy to let him burn down Twitter, or see it change for the better. Either way he is a Hero for this, just not all the rest of the stupid crap he tries to pull though.
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@@redbasher636 bro’s gotta eat
Woah, your content has really sunken low Upper Echelon! Half the video is just stupid advertising.
And this is another video where you're basically just passive aggressively attacking Elon Musk. You obviously have something against the guy. What ever your reasons, it looks like your salty about Musk acquiring Twitter.
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Hey if it improves it’s a win but if it fails it’s a win.
Yep, I'm not holding my breath for a major change.
Either way, we win!
👍🏻
I like your attitude
Either way i will claim i was right all along
If twitter crashes and burns, that's good. If the site improves, that's good. The only bad possibility is if nothing changes. Twitter literally cannot get any worse
Firing the Legal Exec and CEO as well as sending everyone illegally selling Blue Checkmarks to jail is a good first step.
Can you send people to prison for it? It's more like a violation of company rules and would result in you being fired or at most paying a fine if damages could be proven.
It can get worse
Dont know how but it can ALWAYS get worse
I saw that he is having record user growth in his first week. Big W
never say "it can't get worse"... because some people will take that as a challenge.
That being said, I do agree with you that either it improves or it crashes and burn are the 2 best scenarios.
"Twitter as we know it is dying, here's why that's a good thing" - A headline no mainstream media outlet will ever print
Then again, mainstream media hates internet media.
Based
All the news publications are freaking out over this because Twitter is where they get all their information. They desperately don't want it to go because if it does they'll have to actually hire real journalists who know how to cover a story the right way.
why Tesla will fall shortly after, and why thats a good thing for the lolz
Looks like Twitter is doing good and Elon is triggering millions of snowflake Twinkies. Looks like a big win.
We can't lose here. Even if twitter crashes and burns, we'll all be better for it.
Can't deny I'm enjoying the three ring circus. The whole White House kerfuffle is pure comedy gold. Facebook fact checking the twitter fact checkers. You can't make this up.
If twitter crashes and burns that is a bad thing. Twitter right now is the insane asylum of the internet. If that goes away and twitter dies those nutjobs will just find themselves on other platforms and ruin them eventually. It's like what happened when tumblr died.
Well...... The degenerates could flok to other sites. Like what happened with Tumblr
69 likes...
I like it too!
MUST... RESIST... ALTERING... PERFECTION!
@@commander2552:
If Twitter users migrate, Discord and Reddit both have an advantage here. On those platforms, there are sections for different subjects. That will contain the toxicity to specific sections. The hobby-based or passion-based communities will be less affected.
"Git fact-checked, nubs!"
As someone who doesn't use Twitter watching this unfold is quite fascinating.
Same. I've all but ignored social-media over the years, so watching twitter burn while facebook gradually drowns into irrelevance has been mildly amusing
Same, the closest thing to social media I have is a youtube account.
Life is actually so much better and many problems just disappear out of your life when you finally get rid of all of it. It's not Twitter or Reddit or Facebook or Instagram it's all of them, cancer for the own mind.
If Elon destroys twitter, I will give him a grain of respect for doing humanity a service
I hate Conman Elon but yes, agreed, I would give him a grain of respect for getting rid of cancertwitter
didnt you see what happened with tumblr? when they banned porn, the users of tumblr INSTANTLY went straight for twitter and reddit, if twitter was deleted or ruined, the same thing would hapoen AGAIN, though it might be even worse since twitter is so much bigger and there would be even less places for the twitter-ers, so they would likely all go to reddit, and turn it into even more of a cesspool than it already is. So it's actually good if Twitter stays, as it basically functions as a "contaiment site" for these toxic people. doin' ya mom, doin' doin' ya mom
He should do TikTok next.
He is destroying Twitter and Tesla….he doesn’t know what he is doing. The meme tech lord is clueless.
IMO he could probably get his advertisers back just by shutting his trap for a while and letting things blow over, but he's just too much of an attention whore to do that. It's incredible how stupid he actually is.
I can't stand any social media anymore! People put too much of thier buisness out there!
That's because they are all chasing that clout.
Don't you like to know what I had for breakfast?? :(
When social media stops being a means of making money just by getting a view or a like, that'll happen. YT and all else should have never been a means of making a business. It was always supposed to be petty entertainment/maybe insightful news. Sorry not sorry to all those who make their money through being a "content creator". No product is provided here. And before people forget again, a product is something that is physical and can be used. Else you're just buying hype and trust in words.
@@venn7eance925 nope.....lol!
Thats basically the point of social media. People tell advertisers what they like, and then they get targeted ads.
I’m no musk fan boy trust me, but seeing him gut twitter is a beautiful thing
normie meltdown has been entertaining
@@okjosh agreed
I loathe normies, these disgusting dumb vote-for-clout filth are what enable the world to become a shitty dystopia. They are everywhere, they still wear n95 masks and fall for every "trend". Im sick of these filthy sub-human types that say "vote blue no matter who" and move to another state and do the same thing. They never learn, just adopt narratives fed through a television screen and a tabloid article. If these people are smart as they claim to be then they should have figured things out by now. They often take SSRI's and and leech income off other people through the welfare system and if you say something about it then you are deemed as a "racist nazi bigot" and make out that you're just the worse
I have zero respect for the man, but he's (unintentionally) made Twitter the most entertaining it's been in years. Dude's turning himself into a lolcow and he's taking down Twitter and Tesla with him.
@@Colddirector zero respect? Lol, you must be special or something. I could despise the devil, yet you'd still have to respect him.
I see this situation as a win win:
Option 1: twitter dies (that's a win)
Option 2: twitter improves (that's a minor win)
I view it more...
Twitter Dies: Hilarious Win
Twitter Improves: Interesting Win
I'd rather be a bit more optimistic because this is all fucking chaos. It's chaos, no one knows what's going on, and ancient Chinese saying goes, "In chaos, there is opportunity."
Option 3: Twitter does both, it improves while it is dying and reaches a critical point where Musk proves he is right...
but gets blindsided when he bankrupts himself in the process, crippling Tesla and Space-X in the process. His cars and rockets are years behind schedule at this stage and his companies are intertwined with his bank debts for the purchase.
This will be a win lose... cause the economic impact of a major industry failure for musk will effect his whole empire, all his employees during an impeding recession.
Unfortunately if twitter dies, another platform will just become like twitter. The social media addicted zombies need their fix after all.
So unless all of social media implodes, twitters death wont really matter.
@@harleymitchelly5542 chaos is a laddah
-some Scottish guy
Elon Musk is one of the few powerful people standing up to the communist/fascist/socialist takeover of the world. If we lose him as an ally, we lose a lot more than just Twitter
Twitter had 2000 employees in 2012. After 5000 additional employees, we still didn't get an edit button or any other notable feature in a decade.
Twitter has massive bloat.
yea you're so right, you should try starting twitter 2.0! you will definitely be able to get a lot better profits since you're so insightful
Not only that most other websites of similar size run with far less personnel.
Reddit for instance has 700 Employees.
So why does twitter need around 5000 ?
@@AnEnderNon Name the critical function that the 5000 additional employees provided.
@@dakara4877
Tax write off
Just like how UA-cam is constantly removing features but calling it an "improvement?"
I always wanted Twitter to crash and burn. But dying like this means the people who needed to learn the lesson the most will come away with an excuse for why it failed that absolves themselves.
You wanted this why?
@@cwx8 because it's a trash site filled with trash people who have trash beliefs?
@@cwx8 Because twitter and its consequences have been a disaster for interpersonal communication.
@@trolleymouse The same can be said with every other social media "platform" that doesn't allow free speech.
It's just a massive loss for Elon. After Twitter collapses, some other similar platform is just going to quickly fill the vacuum left behind and have similar moderation imposed due to the pressure imposed advertisers.
“We live in a circus.”
Never change, man.
As a digital circus fan, I see this as an absolute win.
Twitter, Meta & TikTok failing in the next 5 years would be so satisfying.
Twitter, Meta maybe yes, i dont think TikTok will die that fast, unless they get problems with energy-prices or server costs in china.
What if somebody build something which helps humanity? Like an APP? Would you use that?
But why? I honestly can't understand this hate. I don't use twitter, I don't use tiktok. I have a facebook account, I check it 2-3 times per month, I post something maybe 2 times per year. If I don't like something, I simply ignore it and don't use it. I can understand when you have something that's impossible to avoid, but something that you can totally avoid and don't interact with... why not simply ignore it?
@@MannIchFindKeinName yea, lets help make it die faster.
[but seriously though tiktok themselves are responsible for many many thing that people wished it would never happened to them or their children]
@@MannIchFindKeinName Well, China is having a financial crisis atm, it might have an affect on them.
I see this as a win, Twitter got funnier
japanese twitter users (the 2nd most twitter user, after usa) absolutely loves elon. They've been getting angrier because the things trending there are enraging (politics, racismus, kpop, communist party, etc). They've been gaslit by the left wing moderation commissars about what is trending and popular. The moment elon locks all the activists out, suddenly japan gets all their grassroots interest back, such as: anime, sports, manga, movies, etc back. no one is putting their finger on the popularity scales again.
Yah, people do get kind of stuck in the "US" mindset. This is going to be good for most people as the rabid leftoids leave. It might actually attract people like who never had it to begin with...but probably not. I can't stand social media, even YT is rough.
@@BearPawSwipe I think most people have been misled by the activist commissars. They believe that social media is and always has been toxic because of recency bias. Look at the internet before trump took office, there's problems here and there of course, but they're mostly isolated. The moment trump took office, the division and anger in social media suddenly flares up.
It will be interesting to see if elon is successful in fixing twitter. We might found out that all that anger and resentments have been manufactured, and we're all gaslit just to create division. If he fails, then maybe social media really is the worst creation of humanity. It will be fascinating for sure, either way.
So funny how obvious the control on culture was on these platforms and if what you say is true then that means Twitter had given every govt access to control pop culture. Which is disgusting.
That's an interesting perspective. Nobody is actually looking on how rest of the world, AKA not America, is looking at this.
Yup, the only political tweets I’m exposed to on Japanese Twitter are lunatic leftist claims from people I don’t follow and don’t want to follow.
Everytime I hear UE say things like "there's more", "it goes deeper" and "it gets worse" I get increasingly more worried. Like bruh, we're approaching the core of the earth at an alarming speed, stop for heaven's sake or we gonna get evaporated 💀
Twitter addiction is a real thing - you can probably count on those users... though maybe without the bots, the drug prob isn't as potent.
You usually have all the facts right but the parody account thing was a rule a long time before elon ever talked about buying twitter. If it fails and goes away it would be for the better of humanity, hope tictock and "social media influencers" go away too. If what he's changing works out, it would radically change twitter and maybe it will be a half decent place.
For whatever reason this topic seems to be one that he hasn’t been as careful about.
Even if social media goes away, it won't make the current US administration go away with its terrible actions and propaganda. Too many people are naive and underestimating on the power of governments and big tech working together.
@catcat mean-spirited "parody" accounts being suspended is peak humor in my book
@Brumalia Works I’ve noticed that recently in several videos
The former parody account rule (before Musk bought the platform) was also one of the reasons the blue-checkmark system existed in the first place. Now he wants to make it so that anyone can get a blue-checkmark, making the point of it completely redundant. It seems like Elon Musk completely misunderstood its purpose.
If Elon gets his way, that’s a win for me. If Twitter implodes, I’ve lost nothing. I’m just here to watch the chaos, however it resolves.
Yep, same here. I'm just here to watch the world burn 😂
watching the snowflakes have a meltdown has already made it worth it. Now that they cant censor political stuff during midterms is hilarious.
Yep same here.
This is pretty much win - win for me and watching that chaos around is entertaining :)
Let's all enjoy my friends!
Ya know you’ll have to redo this come next Monday. Cus shit gonna be bumpy
its very posisble
@@UpperEchelon you read about the twitter employees for over a decade refusing verification then selling it for 15k?
@@toomanyaccounts I heard this from Clownfish TV the other day
@@toomanyaccounts No wonder the checkmarks are mad. Imagine paying $15k for something everyone can get for $8 now.
When you’re banned for impersonating a comedian, I dunno if that’s a death spiral.
That was a joke (she's not funny, hence the "Impersonating a comedian joke"...) She was banned for impersonating Elon Musk. Same as Ethan
@@purplecipher6961 banned for not following the TOS. There, fify
@@bandit6272 fify?
@@purplecipher6961 would like to remind everyone that Ethan Klein fully agrees that a private company can do whatever they want. And he did violate ToS.
Never forget that he will always be a lolcow.
@@bandit6272 What are you talking about, "Fixed it for you"? Impersonating is absolutely against ToS. No one was banned for, "impersonating a comedian". They were banned for breaking ToS and Elon joked it was because she was impersonating a comedian.
theres also the gov portal that apparently alot of the major social media sites have now for the US three letter agencies to request expedited takedown requests, personally, i believe that to be a major reason that elon wanted to back out of the deal
I genuinely don’t care if the bird app crashes and burns but the fact that Ethan DeKlein got b& is making it all worth it lmao
A content creator of my youth, Captain Sparkles, pointed out that a small eight dollar 'investment' for scam or rug pull operations see this as a small fee for a lot of potential return. Not to mention the previous validation the checkmark will still carry for the next upcoming months or year since people will still have that ideology that the verification badge is a mark of legitimacy.
You're on of the few creators left who will be as unbiased as humanly possible when covering topics that can have an impact. I respect that.
I've found this entire saga to be fascinating.
Screw Twitter. I don't even use the app. Since it's existence I've probably only "Tweeted" I think twice. Aside from UA-cam, I don't even use Social Media. No Facebook, no Instagram, no TikTok, no anything. In my opinion Social Media is the bane of all existence. Let it all burn.
*its
Hell yeah brother
When UE brought up the car manufacturers I literally had an oh shit moment in my brain
Ya me too
UE?
@@dubuyajay9964 upper echelon, the creator
direct tv feeling that starlink envy... 🤣
@@andycopeland7051 I still don't get what car manufacturers have to do with this. Other than begging the government for bailouts and pushing "eco-friendly" cars in tandem with the government.
Twitter either dies or improves, both are good. Therefore we can only win
twitter gets better? cool. Twitter continues to circle the drain and collapses into dust? cool.
Its a win either way and I'm all for it.
It is vastly better now. So keep up the great work, Elon.
Thanks for the support!
Pay me 8 dollars or I'll shadowban you. Yeah it's so great 🙄.
This channel is going through a few big changes atm, so I just wanted to say that the outro is often my favourite part of the vids. The music, the giraffe, I dunno why it works or why I like it exactly, but it adds something special to the end of the vids. Please don't change it!
His firing of the censors have fixed Japanese Twitter and the user base is so much happier because of it
Wasn't japanese twitter a "wild west" regardless?
A few hours ago it started to happen here too, my anime cat girls are back
Here in Brazil the clean up wasn't good enough, but came just in time.
Every other platform is being heavily censored right now, the only decent place now for us is Twitter, where we are coordinating the protests.
But bans are common.
Too bad twitters just gonna crash pretty soon, elon is losing 4 Million a DAY.
It's a kekfest watching the chaos. I'm just enjoying so much of it.
Dude I’ve been following this closely and you have the most comprehensive video on all this information thanks for this good job as always. RIP Twitter.
It would be great if Elon bought the Twitterverse, just to end it
So wasting 44 BILLION just to end Twitter? That's a MASSIVE cost just to do that. That much money could have be used in a million different better ways.
I'm well aware that Twitter is a dumpster fire. The point I'm making here is that I highly doubt Elon would intentionally lose 44 BILLION just to tank Twitter. That's an absolutely astronomical amount of money.
while going bankrupt himself... are you dumb or something? it's obvious that he messed up
I honestly have no idea where you got the idea that Musk was forced to buy Twitter. Was he forced to buy it at a heavily overrated price? Absolutely. However, Musk had made it clear time and again that he _wanted to buy Twitter no matter what._ Sure, he tried to get the price down to something more reasonable, and sure his investors wanted out of the deal, but Musk was ready to get the ball rolling on this venture from the get go and he made the reasons for this desire *_very_* clear.
Other than that, good honest journalism as always.
19:10 it is worth noting that Audi, Porsche and Volkswagen are all parts of the VW group and shouldn't be included independently.
The idea that people honestly think that censorship is the last line of defense against fascism hurts my brain.
Meanwhile I'm making my first twitter account today.
Same here
I'm waiting to see...
Had my account killed because they deemed my password suddenly insecure and I never updated my recovery email... So I'm in an endless loop (for years) of being told to update my password as soon as I log in, but unable to do it because they want to send me an email which can't get to me.
If things continue on with bias removal, I'll make a new account.
Me too 🤷♂️
@@volvo09 Twitter is inherently sh!t. The character limit is why it will never be of any real value to anyone. Everything that's worth talking about will necessarily require way more than even a 10 tweet thread can offer. How much more effort does it take to make a book than a business card? Then why are all the smart people not writing on business cards, then?! Good ideas are complex, they cannot hold in a tweet. Twitter is the TikTok of ideas. You'll learn more watching a good 20 minutes video once a week on UA-cam than reading a thousand tweets a week.
Add to that that the real fun of Twitter was that leftists were there and you could argue with them... It's not 2015 anymore, there is no more making fun of their pathetic pronouns, now you go there to fight for kids so they don't get their genitals literally cut off... There's nothing fun about that...
Do you really need a daily reminder that 40% of the population would send you to a concentration camp just to avoid coughing for 2 weeks? That 6 out of 8 teachers have a political agenda and are using children like cannon fodder? That non-leftists are so pathetic that they still haven't done anything about any of it?
The world is sh!t, 40% of people are evil, 30% are followers that will kill a grandma if a figure of authority tells them to, that's it, I ruined it for you. You literally have no reason to go there... Ooops spoiler alert btw.
Keep your neurons safe, do not make a new account. They'll thank you for it and actually spell it correctly...
@@SLRModShop I pretty much agree with you there, I think the charecter limit makes it worse, rather than being able to express a viewpoint, you have to condense it and that makes people add feelings and rage to the post.... The proof is just how unified these angry voices were for lockdowns and mandates, and politicians take this as the common voice... It currently only represents one voice, and we know those people are sitting on a chair at home or in a fluffy office setting, not building houses, fixing plumbing, repairing cars, or heavy machinery.
About the bannings: I think impersonation is one of the most important things to police when everyone can buy a blue checkmark.
I even believe that might be the reason some of these "comedians" who impersonated Musk gave for doing this.
Just think of the rampant UA-cam spam-bots that impersonate channel owners and ask commenters to text them and how much worse it would be if all these bot accounts were able to buy the same verification the channel owner has.
That's why these accounts needed to be struck down hard and fast.
Imagine what could happen if someone with a checkmark impersonates someone important and tweets nonsensical or harmful stuff (like they did with Musk in this case) or just decided to scam people. If they manage to convince enough people or the wrong people, they could wipe out billions of dollars in minutes or even start wars!
I would agree impersonation is an issue on any platform and is a valid Terms of Service issue... but Twitter didn't ban people for impersonating people.
Musk only banned people for impersonating HIM! Thats selective, vindictive and abuse of position.
Especially given his whole "Free Speech is Returning" rants, to ban people impersonating him as a parody, which is protected under the amendments. It really shows how impulsive he is.
That move done nothing to reassure advertisers that he is being responsible in his role.
But they can't buy it, it's still gonna be verification that you're who you claim to be but you'll just have to pay. Proof of identity will be required
@@boxhead6177 This comment is completely nonsensical and ridiculous.
1. Who's saying no one else got banned recently for impersonating someone other than Musk?
The reason we hear about the people being banned who impersonated Musk is that the whole world is closely watching his every move right now. He is one of the most influential people in the world at the moment, someone stealing his identity and running rampant could do tremendous damage!
That's why these accounts needed to be taken down asap.
2. This is not an abuse of his position, this is Twitter adhering to it's own guidelines.
3. This has neither been "parody" nor has this been free speech. These people have taken his exact picture and name and have tweeted slanderous statements. This is close to identity theft and far away from anything resembling art, parody or satire.
From what I've heard, Ethan Klein has tweeted stuff like "I drink my own piss" from his account, which could only be differentiated from the real one by the banner picture, which is only visible when you visit the account, and the little grey twitter handle most people don't even pay attention to. Cathy Griffin, I believe, used the "parody" to tweet political messages which might have been able to interfere with the midterms.
What if I had a large twitter account and turned it into a Biden "parody" and tweeted at my followers "My dementia is forcing me to resign as of today. I've come to the conclusion, that the best way forward is for everyone to vote MAGA!"?
Most journalist aren't very clever, I bet some of them would pick up the story. Would that be a funny parody or a severe interference with the elections?
4. I don't see how Musk banning impersonators that try to damage the platform even more than it already is will affect advertisers more than woke NGOs threatening to start smear campaigns if they don't condemn free speech and pull their ads.
5. It's a private company. Musk can do with it whatever he wants. Hasn't that been the argument until a while ago?
@@nathankarn5557 Of course. But it seems like it will still be possible to change the name and the picture, so it would be easy for someone who doesn't care about the repercussions to start an account, get verified and then change it to something completely else, maybe to impersonate someone.
thing is People Warned Elon Muskrat even before this shit show happened. he replied saying that wouldnt happen, effectively denying itd be a problem. and in good fashion people Proved him right by impersonating HIM! desptite getting their accoutns suspended,
they made a point, got ignored then proceeded to prove their point.
Muskrat isnt a intelligant man, that is known and hes a colossal narcisist.
wether its against the rules or not, Muskrat did this all to himself.
The idea that so many people have information that would tank a company if they lost their jobs means there is either incompetence or cronyism going on behind the scenes. Neither is healthy for a company
Or a smart security backup. If the controlling party(parties) knew about even the slightest remote chance of a takeover and the possibility of the high influential platform could be use against them, why not have it set up to fail if the new owner(s) decided to get rid of old staff making the platform ineffective and useless?
If we all just quit social media it would be so much better.
The rule regarding parody accounts has been in play prior to Elon ever mentioning an offer for Twitter. The rest of the video is otherwise solid.
Elon even tweeted about that a few times.
Weird that he missed that.
It was not punishable by an immediate first-offense permaban before though, now it is. That's the key factor.
Like Dankula impersonated Trump as a joke and he got temp suspended and then fixed his account to be in compliance and it was all good. The reason that Ethan and Kathy got banned is because they did their shit AFTER the change in policy and didn't properly mark their account names for satire.
But in this instance Elon only applied it to people parodying him... and only him. No other parody accounts were taken down in such a quick, impulsive, abuse of power manor.
This is what the advertisers and users were afraid of, him doing what he wants, when he felt like it.
@@boxhead6177 Why dont you look up what they were saying while "parodying" him?
Just for fun.
Twitter dying will be a net positive for humanity.
I have not seen anyone buy a company and not clean house. What’s the point of business as usual? Now it’s a big deal if they lean right? Karma is a bitch.
Every time my employer gets a new CEO, they clean house. I have been there 25 years, so I guess I’m doing something right
Ok racist
@@jaboba69 I can tell you are intelligent by your reply and user name.
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JUST IN - Twitter's user growth hit “all-time highs” last week under Elon Musk, according to a company document obtained by The Verge.
That won't mean anything unless those users stick around *and* can be monetized. IDK if it can be pulled off, but I'd have more faith in Musk doing it then the prior group or any other bit tech guy or corporation right now. LIke 20% sure Musk could do it, 5% sure others would be able to do it.
@@FallingPicturesProductions every company will pay. It is cheap advertising just to have an account. 10mil businesses in USA alone. but yeah, we'll see what the mad lad does.
Let me guess. 8chan and Parlour have had all time lows too?
Upper Echelon failed to report this.
He is putting all negative news, even in the previous episode.
Otherwise I mostly likes his research.
Who were these magical "60 activist" groups looking at boycotting twitter? I work in media and most media managers would have a responsibility to avoid paying for controversy - which Elon seems to love, and also cheer on "free speech" . Media folks I know are pulling spend from twitter plainly because of all the things Elon is doing as well as poor performance in a down market.
Twitter didn’t fail to announce the layoffs. They are going in effect months from now.
Yeah. That's why I'm also wondering about the "rehiring" of employees because they supposedly know critical information.
Most of the people that were laid off are going to be employed at Twitter for months, technically. That's ample time to make them turn over any information they have and even have them train the remaining workers/their successors.
If I had to bet, the "rehiring" was barely more than a correction of mix-ups and emails being sent that state: "We know we've fired you and removed your batch access, but we still need you to come in for work for the next couple of months."
He promised me 75%.
@@dh510 For coders, It's definitely management's correction of Elon's "lines of code = productivity" logic. Programming is about simple, concise, and elegant solutions. A person who is consistently writing a huge spaghetti out of every tiny problem is going to rank first, while an experienced engineer would likely end up somewhere in the middle or even the bottom half.
It just came out that Twitter had its highest user growth last week. The impersonation rule wasn’t new. People were given a warning to stop, some did but those that didn’t were banned. This is old policy for verified users.
I think your bias against Musk is clouding your analysis. Not saying you have to change, just be aware of it. Saying “He made up a rule” about people making fun of him is wrong.
The argument can be made that Kathy Griffen was election meddling when she was tweeting as Musk endorsing candidates.
I hope they all burn to the ground. Social media has been a terrible mistake for all of humanity.
TBF, this isn't the first time elon struggled like this. SpaceX was literally limping along at one point. It's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that he could salvage this in some way we don't see coming. Color me a hopeless optimist
Wasn’t the parody rule already in the TOS? That’s what The Quartering reported
Yes but they normally warned users before a suspension. Elon decided no warnings at all. Immediate perma ban for everyone and it happened coincidentally at the same exact moment that people were impersonating him for crude jokes.
@@UpperEchelon As far as I know and found, a parody account is something you can do (found on their website, rules and policy):
"What is required under this policy?
To avoid confusing others about an account’s affiliation, parody, commentary, and fan accounts must distinguish themselves in BOTH their account name and bio.
Account name
The account name should clearly indicate that the account is not affiliated with the subject portrayed in the profile. Accounts can indicate this by incorporating words such as, but not limited to, "parody," "fake," "fan," or "commentary.” This language should be stated in a way that can be understood by the intended audience.
Please note, an account name is separate from the username (i.e. @handle).
Bio
The bio should clearly state that the account is not affiliated with the subject portrayed in the profile. Non-affiliation can be indicated by incorporating words such as, but not limited to, "parody," "fake," "fan," or "commentary.” This language should be stated in a way that can be understood by the intended audience.
In addition to meeting these requirements, your account must be fully compliant with the Twitter Rules and Terms of Service."
They did not add any words mentioned aboove, so the broke ToS. If I punch a beehive, I shouldn't be(e) - yes, I just said it - surprised if they come after me.
Getting a perma ban for impersonating someone should be stated in their rules and ToS if not done so, yes. But if I were to impersonate someone in real-life, I don't get away with a warning either. For me, impersonating someone only has one purpose. Causing damage to the person you are impersonating. Sure, the @handle is still the old one, but seeing how much - and here are some of my favourite buzzwords - misinformation, disinformation or how many "conspiracy theories" are floating around, I think punishing people who do impersonate someone is a good thing. The screen name on Twitter is far more prominent than the @handle. So I guess - not know - that most people are more inclined to believe those big white letters saying "Elon Musk" and simply not looking at those small gray ones next to it, especially if "Elon" posts something outrageous. More often than not, emotions take over and it's just going downhill from there.
Realistically, given his track record, we should see a working Twitter within a year. Or the year after. Or the year after... Anytime now.
"This is a danger to our democracy"
And by democracy we mean liberal progressivism.
As an individual with nothing but distain for both twitter and musk, I personally couldn't be happier.
To be fair: Porsche, Audi, Seat all run under the greater Volkswagen Conglomerate but the basic gist represented in your video nevertheless doesn’t change.
Thank you for another great video! Keep up your good work. We need more good, capable journalists like you!
This is a battle than needed to take place. You be skeptical now, but you won't be later.
Twitter had the most unique users online in its history just this week though...
Before creation there must be destruction...
Appreciate the quick in depth coverage, UE!
UE, here is another thing to consider when it comes to Auto advertising and their pullout and your next story: Auto mortgages are turning into a dumpster fire. Many banks have stopped buying Auto paper from Auto manufacturers as the the quality has dropped considerably i.e. people have bought cars they shouldnt and the loan-to-value are above 100%. Auto companies are going to drop advertising first from a business perspective since it quick recoups money by reducing expense.
Good point. I had forgotten about that trend due to all the Twitter noise.
The userbase has expanded massively. How was he forced to buy it? The fine would have been maybe one billion had he backed out.
expanded since when? He was forced.
From my understanding he bought it basically “as-is, sight unseen.” The fine to break the sale is only when it’s done it good faith. I could be completely wrong but the equivalent is like this.
You buy a car, as-is sight unseen and only one picture from the front. You also DON’T ask any more questions (due diligence). When you go to pick up said car, you don’t like the moldy interior, bad motor, ect. It’s too late at this point and your only “out” is if both you and the seller agree.
Again, I think that’s how this purchase was kinda structured from my arm-chair expert knowledge lol.
At no point was he "forced" to buy Twitter. He signed the fucking contract.
This is like signing the closing documents on a house, demanding an inspection after the fact, then claiming you were forced to buy the house.
He agreed to the god damn deal. Nobody forced him. The only thing that was forced was completing the deal he already agreed to in writing.
@@Ribby00When you sign a contract to buy a house, there are unspoken assumptions embedded within the word "house". One such criteria, might be that it is livable. Why else would someone buy a house? The contract doesn't need to specify anything about inspections if the sale was made under false pretenses, if what the buyer was buying, and what the seller was selling, was not actually a house.
In the case of twitter, Elon was buying a social media platform, one of the assumptions of which, is that the platform has users, not bots.
@@Google_Censored_Commenter There is 0 evidence the sale was made under false pretenses.
I love how he demanded devs print out their code so he could have a look at it.
Having written code for a much smaller project, I can guarantee if you printed out the code for twitter, there would not be enough paper or printers in the building for it.
If you can’t print it out for Twitter’s code then it will be some of the worst spaghetti code in existence. There is no reason for it to be that large.
@@hilkmeister1382 You'd assume that, but the platform isnt an easy thing. Its iteration upon iteration, with added algorithms, advertising and personalisation. It will be a lot of code.
@@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays If they were competent (yes big if) then they would have the code separated into classes and compartments so that a code review is possible and to minimize spaghetti code.
Also, the devs were fired based on the amount of code written. If you know anything about programming, you'd know that the most elegant and concise code is always the best. In just one policy you've fired all the best engineers at your company while showcasing to everyone that's left that the new management doesn't understand their job nor listen to anyone who does. This just seems like a person utterly clueless about programming demonstrating to us the definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
@@rkvkydqf Source
UE, you're absolutely wrong about the 'parody' part. Verified users cannot impersonate other users using their verified status. The entire point of verification is that you are who you say you are. This was in the TOS prior to him taking Twitter over, and he even gave the blue checks a special pass that they could do it if they included a parody tag in their profile. I love your work but this section wasn't accurate.
Nothing of value was lost.
Hey mate, you guys came a long way but could you please start citing your sources? I know it's a bit of work but it would Realy get you those last few steps :)
Keep up the good work
"We live in a circus"
Yep.
I can imagine a reason why Musky Boi would lie, that Twitter was doing shady things before - it could be a way to manipulate people's opinion. "They were scummy before, I'm here to fix it."; "They had a pay-to-verify system before, that only rich people could have, but I bring you an affordable subscription plan."
Sooo looking forward to an update-video.
What do you think of the numbers that have been tossed around that say recently Twitter has seen an all time high in usage rates? Misinterpreted numbers, inaccurate data, temporary blip?
Twitter most certainly did not give him all of the info they had
They gave him full access to "the firehose"... the intent was clear though. Give him "everything" but he would never be able to actually sort through it. Its a technicality they used to basically spit in his face.
@@UpperEchelon Meh, I work on the IT side and data is data. Give an engineer sometime and they will find it. The real question is would he release it.
@@BearPawSwipe Data without mapping though? Do we know if they gave him proper data mapping / documentation to actually do anything with the insane amount of data he got access to... Or did they just open the floodgates and wish him luck based on variable names and API endpoints? If so, then I'll agree with enough analysts and time they could start to provide meaningful reports. It would still take a lot of man hours but would be doable if he invested enough into his team. But without getting good documentation there is just no way he'd get it done in any reasonable timeframe for the acquisition (and possibly never depending on naming schemes and data types).
@@LONlG Yah, there is always nuance but we are on the outside looking in. I agree though with what you wrote. That is very true as well.
They gave him access to the fire hose but refused the tools needed to do anything constructive with it. All the data prior to the fire hose was scrubbed and curated for Elon's team. Agrawal said they couldn't hand over the tools needed as is violated user data protection.
Twitter is hosted by AWS. AWS kicked out Parlor, Twitter's only real competitor which was also hosted on AWS.
Been waiting for this one 😁😁
It's not that others were just "too afraid to speak", but instead others were completely silenced and shadow banned!!!
If Twitter users migrate, Discord and Reddit both have an advantage here. On those platforms, there are sections for different subjects. That will contain the toxicity to specific sections. The hobby-based or passion-based communities will be less affected.
@@stealthysaucepan2016 :
One can isolate from the toxic communities though.
@@stealthysaucepan2016 : The double-edged sword however, is that the toxicity will infect itself faster.
i agree these have great potential for growth, but they simply dont have the same appeal twitter has, especially for artists. although i'll admit im not into reddit so wont make any big claim, but discord? i feel like thats not the best place to grow
If true, good riddance. The world has become so much worse due to social media.
Wrong, using verified accounts to impersonate others has already been a bannable offense. Parody or not. This wasn't something "new".
I heard the parody rule was never changed, it's been that way the whole time. Might check your facts.
Are... are we on a good timeline for once? Twitter is burning down... I feel... hope
"The only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance" Albert Einstein
The point about car makers pulling ads from Twitter was very insightful. Cheers and Happy New Year
Your work is invaluable, I want you to know that. You are one of the few sources I come to, especially on the nitty gritty tech and business side. Thank you always.
Wait, I thought you said Elon wasn't really buying Twitter..
People have been saying that Elon Musk is banning people for parody-ing him. This is not the case. It has always been that parody accounts had to be clearly labeled. The lefties in charge decided that parodying Left wing politicians was a nono, even if it were clearly labeled, and the left and Elon's haters overwhelmingly defended this.
I see it as them getting A. a taste of their own medicine, and B. a proper enforcing of the rules.
And its also consistently applies. Count Dankula was banned for impersonating Donald Trump as well. He did not denote the parody on the account, and so people did think it was him.
The lefts double standard is behind the complaint, and not any sense of fairness or "free speech" which they have crushed at every given opportunity.
"the left" yeah.. you're just full of bullshit if your only argument is that
@@thedutchgamelife6264 lol
This is peak journalism. Great work.
All of this noise from elon appears (from my experience) to be about letting people know theres new management, that things will be run a bit different, the new boss does not take shit, and most importantly ripping the band-aid off as quickly as possible so things settle down faster and dont fester into bigger problems down the line.
Exactly.
Lol of couse Musk be real poor in 2 years.
Excellent analysis, especially on debt and the advertiser exodus. Thank you!
He’s only been in charge for a few weeks.
And I think everyone could agree it was obviously going to be chaotic when he took control (any major transition can be but this more than most)
But predicting Twitter is in major trouble due to these few weeks or even months leading up to them seems a bit much.
Give the man time to actually get used to being there and implementing things and tell me how they’re doing this time next year
Twitter now has a Billion $ yearly interest obligation and a spotty income history that doesn’t approach covering that. There’s a difference between ‘taking a wait and see’ approach and burying your head in the sand.
When you say chaos and pandemonium I keep picturing the fire drill scene from The Office.
Jim Cornette recently talked about how to buy a blue checkmark if you want further verification about that matter. The video is on his UA-cam channel from about a week ago.
From what I understand the rule about parody accounts was in place before Twitter got purchased BUT wasn't enforced.
Got nothing coming up..
If it dies, it dies.
I like your content, but I have to disagree. I see everything that is changing as a good thing.
Elon must have excellent lawyers with his money, so it seems impossible that he didn't know what his options were with this buyout deal. Making a move to back out was most likely intended to get more info out of them or some other benefit, which means he had a genuine intention to buy it from the beginning.
makes no sense - he already signed the contract before he complained about lacking information
why would he need further information when he already signed the contract?
He is just a moron. Most likely Twitter will never again reach net profit. This is no surprise since they only had 2 years of that anyhow.
Benefiting from good lawyers would necessitate consulting them and listening to their answers first.
@@ObiWahnKnobi You dont get to be as Rich a Elon without listening to your Lawyers. Now he might have gotten a big head an thought he knew a bit more then he did. I dont think he thought things were as bad as they were. Twitters greatest Achievement was fooling so many for so long.
@@marasmorgean5813 I know of Elon because of all the stupid ideas he has tried to tell people he is definitely going to do in a Year, you know like Robots and stuff.
Now I am no where near a Fan of his, but I am more then happy to let him burn down Twitter, or see it change for the better. Either way he is a Hero for this, just not all the rest of the stupid crap he tries to pull though.
@@marasmorgean5813 Why do you sound so triggered? Your hatred is clouding your judgement.
This is the best video about the matter, stating a lot of things others overlook.
12k in Layoffs coming at Meta.. Looking forward to that video from you.
Its one of those situations where I hate everyone involved so i can just kick back and watch the dumpster fire.
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