DEALING WITH HOMOPHOBIA | VLOGMAS 2018: DAY 17
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I'm Caleb Marshall, born and raised in Indiana now living in Los Angeles with my boyfriend. My best friends and I dance around the world as The Fitness Marshall.
I’m sorry Caleb and Cameron. There’s more love than hate. Remember that. There are individuals in the world that love you that don’t even know you or have ever met you
Y'all are an amazing power couple that deserves only great things! Those trolls don't know you or your relationship and I'm so sorry that they commented such horrible things to you two. You are awesome!
Yes what u said
I'm so sorry for how ignorant and rude people can be. I was just having this conversation with my mom about how homosexuality is not a choice and that I don't believe it is a sin. Love is love and it's all that really matters in this world. Keep spreading your love and positivity. Those of us who are truly here for Caleb and Cameron will remain loyal and uplifting followers. I'll never understand how people can't seem to follow the golden rule. If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all. Love you guys! I hope you all have an amazing Christmas with your families and that all the traveling went smoothly!
Cam made me cry because hearing his frustration just got to me. It makes me feel sick to know that there are so many like you and Cameron who are criticized and ridiculed for simply being who you born to be. Know that you are both so loved and love beats hate, every time. Keep being yourselves! Love you guys! ❤️❤️
I like what Cameron said but I agree with Caleb in his response. What you said will fall on deaf ears and isn't worth being angry about. There are ignorant people in the world. Be the light. Don't respond to their darkness.
I'm sorry you have to deal with this. What really jumped out at me when Cam was reading his post was when he said something to the effect of "God may have made Adam and Eve, but he also made Cameron and Caleb." Love that. I enjoy watching both of you. Your love for each other is obvious and it makes me smile! Enjoy your holiday with family and friends.
The first time I heard that same comment about “Adam and Steve” was in a church, which is why I no longer go to that church. There is ignorance everywhere, unfortunately. I sincerely hope you get FAR more positive feedback than negative. ❤️
I 10000% agree with Cameron!!! Screw these ignorant homophobic people. Love is love, you two are perfect for eachother!
You both are so well spoken in your responses. With Cameron, I was like, "go Cameron, very very well said!" Then with Caleb's, I was like, "wow, you are so amazing in trying to handle such ignorant people!" You both rock and are loved more than you could ever know.
Caleb's comment to Cameron going to bed....priceless!!! LOL!!!
Speaking here as a 48 year old gay man who teaches about oppression and social justice issues: there is no one right way to communicate about these issues. The various forms of communicating depends on many factors: who you are, what role you're working in, your audience, and your goals. For example, teaching or giving a workshop requires a different approach than say dealing with a homophobe in my personal life. I think Cameron in this case is well justified with his retort, as this is him defending his dignity and asserting his value as a person. It's okay for Caleb to not want to take that approach, but Cameron did what he needed to do. Caleb's softer approach in my experience is better when speaking one-to-one with someone willing to listen. But with internet comments, usually the person just wants to have their say and move on. I do disagree with Caleb's perspective that you have to work twice as hard. That's called respectability politics and it doesn't work. No matter how hard you work, no matter how much you achieve, if someone doesn't like you for being gay or black or a woman or disabled, achieving more won't change their views. That said, I love you guys and hope you have a great Christmas. Regardless of your approach to dealing with it, pay those homophobes no mind!
1. Those captions are fire.
2. Can we give Juice and George their own livestream?
3. I side with both of you on that comment. I think it comes from a good place to pray for that girl. I also think that Cam's response was beautiful, concise, and clear. If someone is making comments like that, they are not going to have their minds changed. Period. So don't spend too much heartache on that. That person was formed by generations of families before who have refused to step out of the hateful bubble that they were raised in.
Caleb I am sorry that some "so called" Christians feel the need to be that way!!!
I am SUPER CHRISTIAN yet I would never act that way!!!
Jesus spent His entire life preaching forgiveness/acceptance!!!
Jesus rules are
1 Love each other as I Jesus have loved you
2 Treat other people in the way you want them to treat you
3 Love your neighbor as you love yourself
I try my best to live by those rules!!!
Also the bible says "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God but by God's grace we are saved.
As the bible says do NOT judge other people for how they are living their lives or you will be judged for how you are living your life!!!!
I know you were born that way and it is NOT a choice!!!
A REAL CHRISTIAN WOULD NEVER ACT LIKE THAT!!!
I am glad you responded in such a positive way!!!
Please don't let the rude comments negatively affect you emotionally!!!
Have fun in Indiana!!!
I can't wait to see the video with the celebrity backup dancer
Merry Christmas/Happy New Year
ILYSM
Susan from New Jersey
PS when will the ROKU/I Pad apps be available?
Love you Susan!!!
Susan Moawad amen! Also just to add to what you said- the book of Leviticus was written before Jesus was even born & Jesus never said or did anything that supported that law. Homophobia has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.
I am not someone that usually comments on vlogs but I’m sorry Caleb - I can’t agree with you. There will always be those people that choose ignorance and fear as their guideposts. You cannot get down to their level. You will never get them to understand your point of view or make even the smallest dent into their toxic beliefs no matter how nice you are or how inoffensive you try to be.
No one should tolerate hate. Everyone *should* get angry about it and speak out loud and clear. In the words of Dr. King, “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Personally, I thought Cameron’s response to that person was far more respectful and diplomatic than she deserved.
And on another note - congrats on all the good stuff coming your way!!
I agree with that. You were not created and put on earth to straighten everybody out. Be yourself, live your best life, TRUST IN GOD and you will be all right.
That’s ridiculous. I don’t see how people didn’t know first of all... if people are worried so much about who is in a relationship with who then maybe they need to spice up their own love life. Love you guys 🤸🏾♀️🌈
I'm so sorry that you both had to go through that. I work at the Intercultural Center at a college that is predominantly upper middle class white Catholic students and one thing that I have learned is like you said Caleb, meet people where they're at. It's really hard to put it into practice and I am still trying to improve, but listening to other people's perspectives and asking them probing questions is a good way to educate them. For example, I've learned to ask people to further explain what they mean to make them feel like their viewpoint is also heard. You make them feel heard and then you share your knowledge and educate them. It really does suck because it shouldn't be the job of the oppressed to teach the oppressors. That just goes to show that there need to be more allies. But on another note, I just want to say that you both are truly important in the UA-cam community because you show representation for the LGBTQIA+ community and there's not that much representation in the media. I truly believe that y'all are making a difference with your presence in the media
My sister is gay, and two of my daughters are gay. I’ve known my daughters were gay their whole lives (even though one didn’t come out until age 17, and the other at 20, because they were living their own journey), the same way I knew with my sister- I always joke that she had that “Peppermint Patty vibe”. It’s just who you are as a person.
Being gay is as natural as being straight. You’re born that way. I live for the day that people just mind their own business and start appreciating love as the beautiful, positive, amazing gift that it is. No matter what package it comes in.
I’m sorry that you have to endure ignorance and negativity. Never let these people get to you, they are fools. ❤️
Yess Cameron 👏👏 true Christians are accepting and loving. I grew up in church and I am so supportive of any gay couple or member of the lgbtq community. I have many gay friends and family members. There should be so much more love in the world. Know that there are people who stand with y’all and love y’all for who you both Are. Everything Cameron said to that comment was perfect. ❤️
Cameron I ABSOLUTELY LOVE BOTH YOU & CALEB! GOD IS LOVE & NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT IN THIS LIFE THAN L.O.V.E!!!!!
I honestly think that Cam went about it the right way. I get that people will perceive it the wrong way but sometimes it’s okay to stick up for yourself and the people you love and care for. Because just like Cam said it’s hard to put that into practice.
It’s okay to be an advocate because these type of people need to be educated!
I agree with Cameron with the mean comment
Cameron smiling (like genuinely happy smiling) is a nice thing to see!
I am sorry you are still dealing with homophobia. That sucks. I love you guys.
Chills, I have chills listening to Cam read his response. I’m so sorry you guys have to deal with this garbage and those garbage people. I’m a Christian and I believe God love’s you!
I'm so sorry. Being a lesbian myself I understand how tiring it is to deal with homophobia. Sending love to you two
When my daughter (mommas babygirl) came 'out' to me...I told her that I knew before she knew. Her father had just past 5 months prior, she was 13 and he was only 36 (married 18 yrs). I told her there is no problem and never will be. She lost her world when her dad died...she knows she will never ever on Gods green Earth will she lose me. I told her that if anyone has a problem...send them to me and they will be reminded that 'THEY' have a problem...not her. There is only one Laura...and this momma is proud to have her in my life. God blessed me a 1000X over by blessing me with my daughter. My heart, my home, my arms, my support are yours and Camerons if you ever need a place, a hug, love and support at any time, any where or just because. Never apologize for anything...you have nothing to apologize for. Muuuuuuah!! 😙😙😙😙
I totally agree with what Cameron said but, Caleb is right too! When someone spews hate at you and you return it, it only gives them leverage that they are right! Cam, don't let them get to you. Some people are just ignorant and it.is never gonna change. Love your life to the fullest and let them be miserable. Merry Christmas to you both!
Caleb, I love that you want to love people to the light. Some people will never see the light. Cameron was eloquent in his response. He was kind and stern enough to educate. That's what people need. Education. They live in ignorance and judge because they do not know. So educate them. If they're still ignorant, don't waste anymore of your time. Look to the light. You have love all around you, don't allow the ignorance to to shadow your best life that you are trying to live. You're amazing. Keep up the great work and awesome representation of our culture.
This broke my heart. You guys are so awesome and your relationship makes me so happy- because you guys are so open and real. Those kinds of relationships are worth being proud of and you guys should be.
All the positivity you gave to each and everyone of us is flowing back to you. I am so happy for you guys, nevermind the haters.
I love Adam and Steve, Adam and Eve, most importantly Caleb and Cam!! 😍😍😍
It's sad that people forget how to be human. I'm sorry that you have to deal with things like this. I hope you guys have an awesome trip back home and holiday!
Ugh! Broke my heart! 💔
We live in a time, where all the worlds knowledge is available to us, everyday, at the tip of our fingertips, though a cellphone. And it just truly blows my mind that people are still so ignorant.
I understand where Cam is coming from, sometimes killing people with kindness doesn't seem effective, but Calebs approach would definitely be less stressful on you, don't fill your heart with hate to fight hate. Nobody wins 🖤
I loved hearing your different solutions to her hate comment. It truly shows that you two are ying and yang, a perfect balance 😊
Lots of love!! Keep being you! Because both of you are loved by many 🖤🖤🖤
I'm sorry there is still some people like that! I do agree with Cameron but unfortunately I think the way you explained handling people like that shows great courage and I respect both of you in the way you deal with the uneducated. Love is Love!!!
This makes me sad that people act like that. I spent an entire day trying to educate a homophobe. It went no where. They are always going to be hateful and mean. You are loved and you and Cam are freaking cute. I wanna say screw what other people think but I can't imagine how hurtful these comments must feel. So take care of yourselves.
Cameron, you are awesome don't let anybody get under your skin. Like I told Caleb the best revenge or lesson or teaching moment is a life well-lived and well-loved. Don't let people who do not understand bring you down. Especially at this wonderful time of the year.
I'm sorry that this even happened to you two. You and Cam are an amazing couple and if people cant see that then what have they been watching. People in todays society kill me with how much hate they show from behind a computer screen. I am so happy to hear what Cam wrote and had the courage to be able to stand up not only for the two of you but everyone who is getting this same hate. Enjoy your holiday and dont let anyone get you down. Kick them where it hurts and just know that if they were standing in front of you they never would think of making a comment. Technology has made us cowardly people unfortunately. Keep on keeping on guys and cant wait to see what 2019 brings.
I am so sorry people are so close minded still. Please, keep in mind that for every hateful comment, you will receive a thousand loving ones. ❤❤❤
Dont look at the negative and focus on your happy life. You all know your amazing and if ppl have nothing nice to say they shouldn’t say anything!!!
💕Preach Cameron 💕
Where human we can't always take the high road
Love you and Cameron. I see you’ve gotten lots of suggestions so I won’t make anymore. I just think of the Level Up video, “Us 6, Haters 0.” 😄 Thanks for all the hard work that you, Cameron and Haley do. Loving the work on the Booty Army website. Already dancing without intros and outros and it’s great.
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Nicely said Cam!! 👏🏻👏🏻 its ridiculous how society forces their views on everyone and they will never ever be content with life because they criticize everything! People are too fat or too thin or gay or trans. Like honestly they dont have anything better to do with their lives. I have PCOS which causes my struggle to lose weight and I try hard to conform to societies ways but eventually I said screw them Ill do me and they can all go jump in a lake. Just know haters gonna hate but you have a “booty army” standing behind you guys 100%
I love the vibe of this video - the discussions, the happiness. I'm proud of y'all and all the good things that are happening!
I LOOOOVE that you are coming home to INDIANA! My home state too. Merry Christmas to you two + juice!! ❤️❤️❤️
Way to go Cam! That was an amazing comment back to them. I love yall and I'm sorry you have to deal with the negativity & rudeness from people but please keep doing what you do and be proud of it. Yall are the best! ❤
I love how Caleb dealt with this. 💕 Empathy is the greatest way to rebel against those people & love is the greatest form of protection from their hatred. 💗🙌🏼
Cameron sorry that you have to deal with such ignorant people. You and Caleb make the world a better place. Your videos show how much you mean
to each other, I love watching them. Don’t let these people get you down. You put smiles on thousands of faces,
be proud of who you are and who you love. There are those of us who don’t judge and show respect and we stand beside you. Love is love. Thanks for all that you guys do.
I'm sending Cameron some extra love today along with my usual prayers for both of you. Love you guys
I think you both make valid points in your different ways of dealing with the situation. Sometimes a stronger approach is needed but I understand why you feel like you have to be twice as good as you say. It's impossible to reach everyone - some people will never change and some have their own journey to take before they change their mind or simply stop being rude.
Merry Christmas, Cameron and Caleb! May this season being much joy and happiness to you and your families. I agree with both of you on the way to address and respond to negativity and disapproval of your relationship. It sickens me that people will use their religious beliefs on this matter, but seem to waiver on other religious teachings in other aspects of life. I grew up in a very religious home (in the Bible Belt) with both grandfathers being Baptist ministers, so you can imagine my fears of being true to myself. Cameron is right to no longer take the passive approach to the naysayers, and you are correct in how that approach must be handled. Sticks and stones are for boy scouts; big boys rise up and speak their truths. In the end, we are all living beings that need to learn to respect differences and coexist without hypocrisy and judgment. Never forget to continue to be you, true and more than you ever knew.
Im so sorry you guys had to deal with that. Nobody deserves that. I’m Christian and fully support you guys and the lgbtq community. God made you exactly how he intended to and no matter what anybody says, they can’t change that. Love is love and is certainly not a sin❤️
its 4 a.m. and i just finished bingeing all your vlogs so far and i just wanna say, I've been a silent follower for a longgg time, ever since me too went viral and im not a youtube person, like, i dont follow or regularly watch ANY youtubers. you're the only exception.
i know vlogmas takes so much time but i really wanted to thank u for it, its so so great to be able to get a chance to know u, cameron & juice better - this vlog in particular makes me sad because every human being should have the chance to live their life and be true to who they are, yet there are still times when that isnt the case. i wish you two all the happiness and joy and i hope society can grow to be more gentler and kinder.
thank you so much for these videos; its so nice to see the honest caleb 🌻 you inspire me a lot so thank you for that ♥️♥️♥️
Love that you are here that means so much to me!!!!!!
So as you can see by the comments, there's a mountain of support. Let it go and keep smiling.
Caleb the best revenge (or substitute the word lesson, teaching moment, response) is a life well-lived and well-loved.
Oh my guys. We love you. I love you guys. I hope that I got to meet you both someday. The homophobic crap, it's crap. You and Cam are both right. Love, you don't meet with resistance if you're not doing the right thing. So keep doing what you're doing, following where Gods taking you and kill the haters with kindness like Selena Gomez sang.
Love is love is love is love!!! And I love you both!! Cameron you gave me goosebumps with what you responded.. God made everyone of us and made ya'll exactly how you are and loves you that perfect way. So happy so much is happening for you guys right now and I can't wait to see what's to come😍😘😍
I love you both so much & you are here making so many people happy. You inspire me every day. Your business is blowing up & this year is going to be huge for you. Don't listen to the people who are ingorant. There are many more of us out here who love & support you. We will impact them by being positive. I was going to comment that the kiss at Disney was very sweet & really showed how much you love each other. Keep your heads high & keep on doing amazing things!!! Hope you had a safe trip home! I still so love vlogmas! 😚🎄💗💖💕
Well said❤❤❤❤
We stan a good eyebrow
Sending love from your Marion Indiana family!!!! So proud of you!!! Loved watching you since you were little!!! Shelly and Nikki's mom!!! Go CSA!!!!
You don't deserve any hate, you and Cameron are such sweet souls 💓 God bless you two !
You both are amazing! God bless you and please never let the ignorance of others affect the way you feel about yourself or your relationship.😊🙏🏽❤️
I love you both so much and it hurts me to see the ignorance you have to deal with it just for being who you are. It made me so sad seeing cameron replying to the comment 'cause although I agree with Caleb, I know it can get to a point where you can't take it anymore!
Anyway, i wish only the best to you guys, and know that even though there are these shitty ignorant comments out there, there is a lot of lovely comments too!
Love you. 💕
The more authentic and happy you are then more pissed off the hateful people will be. Turn that karma around. I think you both are sweet. Im very happy for all your success lately ❤ Love is love💞
Sending you guys some love! Your amazing people just being yourselves and there’s nothing wrong about that. ❤️❤️
I just love you guys x Cameron's comment was very eloquently put, truthful & respectively said xxx
I'm so sorry for the BS you guys have to deal with. No matter what you do someone is always out there ready to tear you down for no justifiable reason. It's not worth much, but for whatever it is worth I value and appreciate both of you for who you are and what you've given me in my life. You were made exactly the way you were meant to be and your influences have meant so much to me in my life. Keep your heads held high
I love you guys! You are great and always make me smile. I'm sorry that rude ass people are coming out of the woodwork.
Wow, some people can be so rude. It's not like you have kept it a secret, you guys are amazing , it's them that have a problem or maybe they don't have the love and support that you guys have. Much love to you both, have an awesome Christmas x
have a great time at home...relax/see friends....and caleb-u have done a super job with the Christmas blogs......looking forward to seeing what u come up next yr for the Christmas month of dec.??????????
I cannot believe someone commented that on your post! I love you guys as a couple and I hope for a better society some day ❤️
We are in the same state again!!!! Welcome home.
You are awesome Cameron and don't let these people bring you down and it's hard not "fitting in" with people but no one can judge you or anyone but GOD.. Much love to your happiness
you know what i am not even going to acknowledge what was said!..YOU LIVE YOUR BEST LIFE!!!!!....Much Love to you and Cameron!..♥♥
I love y’all. Caleb I freakin!!!!! Love you, but this time I just wanna scoop up Cameron and cuddle. While I don’t have the issues y’all have, I have definitely felt some ageism, hate with physicality appearances and invisible disabilities, but I try to not let it affect me. Hate is a powerful weapon. Makes me just plain sad. But, for every evil there is a good and love is a even more powerful weapon. I adore y’all. I wish you all the best, blessed success. (J FREAKIN LO! 😍) continued good things. Caleb, give Cam an extra squeeze from this momma hen in AZ. Have a wonderful Christmas season together. #making memories
Well handled!!! Yessssss speak your truth you guys. 💕 I think you both have valid points. And that you can both be right maybe just depends on the situation 💕
People are too hateful, what’s in that person’s heart? I hope people can learn and accept that others’ lives are their own and it doesn’t matter what anyone else does. Here’s to hoping others can accept and give more love in the new year. This must be an exhausting fight, and I don’t know what y’all are going through with it, but I hope you guys know how loved you truly are and we’re all hoping this doesn’t negatively impact your lives any longer. Don’t give them that power to shake your world. They’ll learn in time, but until then, it doesn’t need to negatively impact your day - that’s their own battle with themselves. Love love love you guys❣️
I'm so sorry this happened to you. you are the best couple I've seen and I wish that my future boy/girlfriend will be like you guys because I have never seen love in the way that you two love each other. thank you so much for producing content and being here for us because we will be here for you.
Sending you both huge holiday hugs from across the pond. I can't pretend to know anything about what you both have to endure from ignorant idiots as a loving same-sex couple, but please know that I am sending extra protective vibes your way x
You both are such beautiful souls inside and out! Much love💕💕💕
Yasss Cam PREACH.. Love yall so much, literally I'm in my 30s and been married nearly 5 years but I feel like I look up to yalls relationship bc yall are fucking ride or die for each other and it's beyond admirable that yall are still strong and happy even with working together! Yall are blessed! And yea keep praying for the haters, bless their hearts lol
I love you both and I love the positive vibes you put out into the world!
I’m so sorry. I’m glad you two are deciding to stay true to who you are and you aren’t letting anyone try to change how you feel about each other. I know, personally, that homophobia sucks. And I myself would react exactly how Cameron did. I am sick of people in the LGBTQ community having to hide who they are from society because they don’t know how society will react. I know that I myself will never come out to my parents while I still live under their roof because I don’t know how they’ll react. And I wish this wasn’t true for the majority of people. I hope you guys have a good day( or night depending on time zones)
I'm sorry to hear that.. Some people are so rude for no reason at all. We need to spread more love than hate. By the way, I think your picture is absolutely adorable !! 😍😍😍♥️
You have all our support!!!
We love you bro!!!
Hope you guys have the most wonderful time at home!!! Happy Holidays!!!!
I have friends in indiana and I will be visiting them next Christmas. You and caleb are a lovely couple and that's what matters, just ignore all the haters.
Goooo Cameron!!! Well said!💛💙💚💜
Caleb's response to pray was the right choice.
SHES GOING TO BE IN ONE OF YOUR DANCE VIDS OMG IM GETTING CHILLS OMG
You are both wonderful people and I am so very glad you found each other! Hate, fueled by ignorance, is the true plaque on Earth...and the people that hide behind their religion to spreed it, are a sad group indeed.
YAS, Cameron! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Please please don't you all listen to what others say be positive be yourselves. Kick negativity to the curve. ❤
Congrats with all of the great things going on, and I’m sorry about...people.
Cameron dropped the mic on that. Perfect.
People suck, but the good ones love you :)
I totally agree with what Cameron responded to that homophobic. Like he said. Being a gay is not a choice. Some people might be confused when they were young. But that’s who we are. And we are just like others. We just need love and peace. But why some of them have to be mean to us ? Which we never thought we would do the same to hurt them.Love you guys. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Cameron those of us who believe in God, know He is love. Yep he made Adam and Eve, AND trillions of others since then. I'm sorry you were hurt and angered by what that person said and I am for you. Caleb took the high road and is taking you with him. Forgive the ignorant, the stupid, the ones with their eyes sewed shut. You are the better person. You have my love and support.
I'm so sorry you guys have to deal with ignorant idiots but I applaude you for staying so calm and humble and I also applaude cameron for speaking his mind. Both of you guys are right in your responses, but everything has an opposite ya cant have loving people with hateful ignorant people
I love and support u guys
You are both amazing ❤️ And amazing together!
Well said Cameron
I miss Bria💔
Where is Bria?