Narrated D&D Story: How The Party Actually Tried To Get My Character Killed In Game
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Hi, OP here, D3Fult_
Here to answer any questions anyone has about the post
And thx for narrating my story. :D
actually I have a question, how the swiss cheese did these jerks actually become friends with the DM in the first place?
A happy Holidays to you!
Did you actually spend a long time in the campaign before they tried to kill you off or was it a lot earlier and you have now been in the campaign longer(_edit_ re-read the original story, player totally played for two years, including this campaign) with the new rebooted party?
Also, how did the original party actually convince that bard to their side to try to kill you?
One question: what is your opinion on killing a player in game if he REALLY is doing a lot of nonsense and prejudicating everyone at the party,whilenegating his fault or even accusing you of persecution?
@@joshuaobryan4896 I can only assume, like me, they found his posting about looking for players for his game in a discord LFP server. In sessions 1-4 they were actually pretty chill...until...you know...
Glad to hear that this didnt ruin rogues for you.
"I've had enough. Kill them."
The words of a DM who's lost patience. Epic.
Good, anakin good...
Kill him.
@@wilburdemitel8468 & @Drago : Some odd replies. Love the Watchmen reference from Drago. But I don't think it fits.
Your profile picture made me scared
@@jamorese My profile pic scared you? Why's that?
Theory BREAK! I thought my screen was cracked-
“I’ve had enough. Kill them.”
Literally the most dramatic and amazing thing the DM could have said
I couldn’t help but smile at that part.
Dude was Neutral Good...
YOU'RE LITERALLY BULLYING ON A JUNIOR ADVENTURER! AN UPSTART CHAP TRYING TO MAKE A NAME FOR HIMSELF!
I know right? Neutral good characters aren't looking to step on anyone's toes.
Also that was technically the highest alignment out of all of them
@@yellowspider9627 not highest. Highest in morality.
@@cosmicgenesis1581 Now hes highest in mortality
if my warforged gunslinger cleric was there every one of those jerks would get bullets in there head
Party: "Don't you have weakness to sunlight?"
Drow-man: "Not anymore! For you see, I was bitten by a radioactive human and gained humanpowers."
I... that was the greatest thing I've ever heard!
Shouldnt he then be Man-drow?
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na Drow man!
@@kelly_seastar Actually it's Man Drow!!
@@LordChaosHavik No. Drow Man. Like Batman but for D&D.
At least the DM was nice.
Yeah he was nice, but he should have seen that coming with thoses backstories. It was NOT a good idea to make a drow caracter and maybe try to stop everything before it was to late X)
@@naginaga8338 first off, it seemed like the player didn't know of the other player's backgrounds. Second off, using your background as an excuse to bully other players is a terrible thing to do. Sure, other PCs can be reluctant and such, but should NEVER turn to such acts done in this video.
@@darienb1127 that's right. I had played a evil wizard in a campaign (more for unethical experiments to really "evil") after my warrior was disintegrated (he was chaotic neutral almost evil). The wizard motivation to help the campaign world was to get revenge against the dragons who destroyed his college and killed his apprentices, he was not a good person to have around, but he was super helpful in many situations. He even didn't keep his undead servants after combat:
"All clear? Okay destroy yourselves. I think that the cleric wouldn't like to me keeping a army of yours raised enemies."
I even stoped a war! Because? Its will not be useful to me.
@@darienb1127 I was talking about the DM ^^. I think he was aware of the background of his players XD
For everything else I agree, having tension in a group can be interesting, but not that kind of stuff.
@@naginaga8338 it actually sounds like the players made those backgrounds up after they found out what the ohter player was, as an excuse to bully him.
All things considered, the DM handled the situation well in allowing an opportunity to let things play out to resolution and then having the NPC's side with the bullied PC, giving him Inspiration, and having NPC's back him up. It's a DM's way of saying, "I'm not tolerating this B.S. in my game." The DM is there to have fun too gang. And when the Players are making another players efforts to smooth misunderstandings over, and not allowing that characters rolplay to count for something, then the DM not having fun as one of his players is getting his feelings hurt, and it makes him look bad as a referee. So then he is obligated to do something about it. He handled it best by letting it play out, killing off a few characters, and then kicking the other players out after session.
Whole heartily agree. The other option that I've used when DM'ing is telling my players to go the route of warming up to the character they'd normally hate or consider killing and say "you're pretty cool for a [insert hated thing here]." , when playing rather than DM'ing, it's the route I almost always take, unless the player is feeding into my characters prejudice.
While he could have probably been a little harsher in preventative measures, I also feel he did the right thing to gauge what those players were like and act accordingly. Especially if he now warns other dms about their behavior and potentially saves them from having the same problem with those players. I'm not saying he should black list them or have others black list them, but now anybody he tells can keep a keen eye on them and counteract their shite accordingly while maybe trying to guide them in how not to be jackasses.
@@Cha-Khia I agree with that method of handling things. My method of handling prejudice, or more precisely, Player Versus Player Conflict, is to make sure all players, and the DM, are on board with the idea first, and if not, tweak my character a tad bit, to prevent that kind of conflict, or see if it would be possible for the other player to tweak his character instead, depending on the situation.
@@Cha-Khia heartedly*
Paladin is now an oath breaker, looses all spells and abilities. He attacked an unarmed ally without proof of guilt.
Eugenics is the only casus belli he needs.
@@Cha-Khia ?
well that would depend on the edition, with oath breaking stopped being a thing with 4, and 5e.
@@flameknightdragon No Oath-Breakers are a thing in 5e. They just become Anti-Paladins more or less.
I've always said this, Paladins can pretty much do whatever they damned well please so long as they are the right subclass and have the belief. If you believe someone is evil then that (and the right deity) is all you need as a conquest paladin to slay them and any who stand in your way. Paladin's are really cool when done right or they are really dangerous religious zealots when done in a different way that is also right. Btw Oath Breakers are also a thing in 5e and are like anti Paladin/death knights.
Half dragon: says "Dra..
Everyone: "He totally said Drow and not Dragon!"
anyway he was on the verge of dying, I don't understand why he would try to say anything, there's no torture if you die, there's no fear of death if you die
@@typeouetco1626 he could've been reminiscing on his father as he died, then again we will never know cause the campaign ended.
5e: no longer has allignment restrictions for spells
stupid 5e PCs: "he used darkness! he must be evil!"
I play mostly PF 1e/3.5 D&D, but... has Darkness *ever* been an Evil-aligned spell? It's not even Necromancy, it's Evocation (ie, same school as Fireball). Even then, there's tons of Necromancy spells that aren't evil.
@@magus13131 There is also that part where most healing used to be Necromancy as well
Real roleplaying of medieval bigot. "He looked me weirdly and now I have pimple on my face! He must be using evil magic!"
To be fair, depending on the characters intelligence, wisdom, and background, they could honestly believe that.
Drejzer in my campaign, my dm has homebrewed it to where every spell that ‘manipulates’ life, is now a necromancy spell, because that is what the essence of necromancy is, the power to manipulat life energy
Its a real shame. These characters arcs couldve been them overcoming their bias towards rogues/drow, or at least become accepting of him.
How tf do they not know about dm inspiration?
Tbh I'm wondering how do you even join these I would like to do it tbh I wanna try.
They were bullies, plain and simple.
Well they didn't know that Darkness isn't an Evil-aligned spell, nor did they seem to know that Paladins attacking unarmed allies is a huge no-no...
They probably never earned a DM inspiration themselves
I didn't know DM inspiration was a thing either, but I guess that's what my DM utilized one session, where one of the players was just having very, very poor rolls, but my DM simply said "If you want, you may reroll that," and never used the words "DM Inspiration," himself.
Even if I knew about it before now, it still wouldn't change anything for me personally. Heck, even knowing my DM and how much he hates my rolls, I could probably predict what my DM would say to me if I brought it up: "You don't need, you will never need it, and I will rejoice the day in which you finally get bad rolls for an entire session."
Okay if they just mistrusted the drow, fair enough. Having a group that works together but still butts head leads to some rp. For example, when the paladin accused the drow of working with the half-dragon and the drow dropped his weapons, the paladin could have checked to see if he fully disarmed before reluctantly putting his sword down and saying he can't attack someone who's unarmed even if he did not trust him.
However, there is a case of taking it too far and really the players looking for a reason to kill the rogue with flimsy excuses. And while we're at it, yes I believe the paladin should have fallen the moment he attacked an unarmed person.
This is just proof to me that there's such a thing as getting too in character.
A point can also be made that it was never in character in the first place, but we don't really know that.
Why do I get the feeling they made up their 'backstories' after meeting the PC.
Right? Unless the campaign is focused around dark elves as antagonists, it's oddly suspicious that three disparate adventurers ALL JUST HAPPEN to have backstories justifying intense prejudice against another party member who they then try to PK.
@@Thagesthoughts yes it's such a abnormality in dnd for non drow races to be prejudiced against drow 🤔😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣... have you ever even played the game?
@@davidclark2540 to be fair yes in a lot of d&d people are inclined to dislike Drow, but they still went way overboard with it. He was nothing but honest, did all he could to help them and they still turned on him. And he isn’t even full drow, he’s half-drow half-human! He cast one spell that all it does is dim the lights, and was a rogue (which that is kinda Bordering on a meta-game backstory hate anyway, to be suspicious of him for being a class)
@@davidclark2540 Yeah but that could also be said of orcs, goblins, dragonborns and most non-human races. But the fact that somehow they all had a backstory that gave them all a reason to attack the rogue is suspicious.
@@davidclark2540 Thage meant that it seemed sus that all had backstories either hating rogues , or hating drow/darkness spell
that dm is an absolute legend
"ive had enough. KILL THEM"
more rpg horror stories should end like this
I must admit, I did not foresee the DM giving his blessing to kill the party. What a fun ending. And a happy one, too. The DM should probably have stepped in sooner but I can attest that it's difficult to step in when it risks the entire game.
He probably wanted to assess the situation before intervening too hastily,best to see if it was just shenanigans IC or high school clique levels of bullfuckery. Finding out it was the latter,the DM did the right thing and intervened.
because he had at least 1 meeting with the rest of the party, I'm Ok with him allowing the kill.
That's why he got the NPC... He actually foresee this BS would happen
when the dm says kill them you know you have both god and the dice gods on your side
I dont understand why people have to be such jerks! I get wanting to immerse yourself in roleplay but this is straight up bullying
Some people just get a kick of it. And when they form packs, it becomes just sniffing the prey out for them. Good thing that tabletop games have much more simplistic rules than life, and much less real time pressure. So, in tabletop games it's much easier outsmart that kind of people even if you're outnumbered.
@@WeibCorbinian I'll admit it's pretty satisfying to hear about when the bullies get their just desserts. Like the vid with the veteran assassin who outsmarted his whole party AND the DM
Sounds to me like they took things too personal, which leads to misjudging the situation. That's why you should play the character, and not be the character.
I think their overestimation of the plot is understandable, but not smart.
I don't see how this was bullying
Paladin hates dark magic and got aggressive after he literally did "Dark Magic"
Sorcerer Hates Drow from being backstabbed
And someone else was backstabbed by a rogue
Yeah my party bullies the drow in the group, but we bully him for all of his stupid ideas that always fail. The only time he was in danger of one of us killing him was when our aasimar paladin found out he had just signed a bad contract and set a bound devil free.
That was, different.
The whole rest of the party was "that guy"?
Bill Skinner why have one of “that guy” when you can have four :p
That group
Never ran into a clique of bullies in high school, I see.
Ahem "Those People" lmao
so to summarize the backstories, one character doesn't like rogues, one doesn't like drow, one doesn't like magic. The narrator is a drow rogue who knows some magic. That seems... convenient.
Sadly their is a lot of online groups that will do that. just to get the person that is not in their click out of the game.
wait, wasn't the elf also capable of magic?
Yes but the Palidan hated dark magic and the half drow casted darkness
@@Nex_Nova
Turning off the lights?
so darkness is dark magic because it makes everything go dark.
So if he had raised a couple of bleached skeletons, or called something fiery from the abyss instead, it would have been white/light magic?
'doesn't like rogues' so that's a metagaming backstory? How could you tell he's a rogue? It's a CLASS, not a lifestyle, lol. You can play rogues without 'looking' like one.
"I've had enough. Kill them."
The best thing to hear from a DM.
Sounds like a session 0 may have been needed.
Session 0 doesn't work if they don't abide by what was agreed upon, as these players didn't. ("The DM tried to convince them not to do it, and they said they wouldn't, but did anyway" -- 7:03)
@@ErzengelDesLichtes gotcha, I was thinking more along the lines of role-playing know what to expect from your party and a little bit of background info Etc.
@@maxgeckos Well, most of their backstories gave reason to be racist of them for one reason or another (except the bard, who was just convinced because the rest were)... But that doesn't forgive the unarmed attack rolls and continued attacks when disengaged rather than attacking back.
@@maxgeckos Exactly, shitty RP to just attack people because of unknown backstory. At least scream "vengeance for my parents" or something to give Some idea of motivation.
@@williamfalls Honestly, two of them had reasons to be bigoted, and the other two just went along with it, because their friends' characters were bigoted. (Seriously? The Darkness spell counts as "dark magic?" So the paladin doesn't hate evil magic, he literally just hates spells that specifically generate/manipulate shadow?)
Paladin: ah yes. I shall attack my unarmed ally because that's totally what a paladin would do. I'm just playing the game.
His God and The DM arguing over who has to break the news to him can be heard in the distance
i if i was the dm i would've had the god stop his attack and disown the paladin on the spot and strip his powers
@@Leostar-Regalius It would've been hilarious if the dm did that instead of outright kicking them out. 🤣
if my sun dancer bard was there
bard:hey paladin?
palafin:what im dealing with rogue here
bard:sun breathing 13th form
paladin: ......i dont get it-oh.
oh no.
bard:omae wa mu shindeiru
So the only way to cast darkness is by using dark/malignant magic? Wow someone is missing a few lights up there.
get it, lights, with the darkness spell? Just me? oh.
Well all three casters used charisma instead of intelligence or wisdom.
Yeah, that's a huge lack of logic
@@iplayforfunsowhat9728 I see what you did there lol
I mean they also didn't know DM Inspiration was a thing, so...
"I've had enough. Kill them"
Rouge: "GOD!?"
"yes my son, it is I, now slaughter them with extremely religious intent"
sorry, couldn't stop myself.
@@Dewani90 I couldn't help myself either lol. It was perfect.
God has enough of bad people's bullshit and practically smites them
I didn’t know I could laugh like a hyena until I read this comment
DM: I had enough... Kill them.
Best line ever.
DM: "Let Mortal Kombat begin!"
Seriously, DM don’t mess around
*flips up hood* "Do it."
When the DM has had enough of their shenanigans
Also, if your character thinks the darkness spell counts as dark magic, you're probably playing Lawful Stupid and need to cut it out.
Fucking absolutely. That disgusted me so damn much.
paladin: WHAT KIND OF MAGIC WAS THAT?
Rouge: harmless stuff that just saved your life!
@@liamdalemon1525 Like, literally just a cloud
DM: "I've had enough, kill them"
Rogue: Well... *_bugaloo it is_*
That is a good DM. Willing to ditch the majority when they are clearly in the wrong and have refused to listen.
I’m a new DM, and I understand the frustration that DM was feeling. Having a party basically gang-up and harass a single PC for little to no reason is one of the worst things because it derails the story and alienates a player. I’ve had to basically scold the worst offenders, which was honestly a major headache because I’m not the scolding type. D&D is a game which requires a certain level of trust and respect. Without it, it’s easy for things to become very toxic very quickly.
I understand that the players are roleplaying heavily, but this is one of those circumstances where they're assuming that the half-drow rogue is out to get them and the DM may be colluding with him for some extra drama based on their backstories. That shit _does_ happen from time to time in games, but it's usually when someone has worn out their welcome, and the rogue had clearly not done that.
IMO a good role player would have dropped hints at their char's backstory, that OP could have picked up on. Silently plotting a char's death because of some unrevealed part of your own back story is about as mature as creating a revenge character.
The DM: “I’ve had enough. Kill them.”
DEUS VULT, GOD HAS GIVEN US THEIR FAVOR
Even with distrusting characters I tend to wait for a concrete reson to go after someone espcilly within a party a sort of "gentlemens agreement I make to myself." But it sounds like the group was just looking to start somthing, the fact the DM tried to talk them out of it without giving things away to the player was nice and I 'm glad he joined the player who was being ganged up on.
I highly recommend talking these things out during 0-game, make sure the players all agree on how inter-player conflicts will be resolved. I allow them, some good RP on those bones if you do, and just have limitations agreed on ahead of time as well as an idea on when the inter-character story ark will best trigger. All it takes is a few moments to talk to the other player about what is causing the conflict and plot other stories going forwards. Weeks later, during act 2 or 3 of the campaign, the slow and controlled build up between the two characters can end up triggering a nice redemption ark or something.
@@lostbutfreesoul that can b a good option or you trust your dm and the players to be "team players" at the table as far as cooperating even when characters might have friction between them.
Farmer brown could have solo killed the half dragon
Crit a manure-covered pitchfork through its throat and let the disease do some of the work.
@@FlyingDominion lol
A fellow man of culture I see
Jacktheripper2000 pro gamer All praise be to Farmer Brown, the greatest warrior of our time.
@@wickedwrite6271 the god among mortals we must celebrate the true god. All hail farmer brown!
No in-fighting. Questionnable decisions at most, mistakes sometimes, but no party-fight.
Unless all parties aggree (everyone has their fun)
Ikr the party literally went against the dm's storyline. That's just plain stupid. Like I get back story is important but campaigns have a goal and overarching plot. The party decided to go off and make their own side stories.
@@madhatten00 This is when the gods intervene.
@@ab14967 DM inspiration!
I agree. Party pvp is something that needs to be decided on in a session 0. And, there are other ways to solve disagreements then killing each other. Have a competition of some kind determined by a non bias source, for example.
I have a standing agreement with a friend in my DnD group that we can kill eachothers characters if the RP leads that way. Almost happened once
It's a shame when people try to punish players for playing a rogue, 'because are rogues are evil'. Especially when someone is playing a good rogue that's not a loner.
I have played a Rogue and everyone tries to kill me in the DnD campaign I joined with Over 10 players so than I became the main Villain along with 5 other players.... Let’s just say the villains didn’t lose
I typically don't enjoy rogues in games since they ALWAYS, steal other party members stuff. Once had a rogue steal all of my spell components. Not sure why, just for the lulz I guess as the wizard panics mid fight.
That being said, I dont go out of my way to kill every class I dislike. They deserve to play too.
I treat our party rogue as the party's banker. (the hold the party's gold)
Since the dawn of D&D 1st edition, rogues have been able to be *LAWFUL GOOD*
I had an idea to made a rogue, he could be a thief that collects evidence gor other so they can expose the illegal stuff they were doing.
Unspoken rule of DnD : Never backstab the party or a party member.
Frankly speaking this is why backstories should be known to each of the players but not each of the characters and even why session 0's are incredibly important to see if the team dynamic is lending itself towards a negative or positive tone.
Pity that the full effects were felt too late though. Props to the DM for taking responsibility, and to the Player for being the adults in the situation.
This genuinely made me irritated at the human party members.
they didn't back stab a party member they were fighting with a party member... to attack a completely innocent party member who didn't even attack in self defence... but it was in the interest of helping a party member
@@liamdalemon1525 Lawful Paladino attacking unarmed and innocent party member? That's a nono!
I wish we could know what the DM said to them in the second private voice chat. Dude definitely seemed pissed and hearing how he lambasted them would have been great.
DM was a saving grace in this horror story.
I've had a conversation or two like that... It was around an actual Table, instead of on discord...
"This is a big world, and I don't take up much of it. There's no reason we should ever have the displeasure of crossing paths. See to it. Bye." ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 your line, i will steal it.
"Its what my character would do" is mostly code for "I want to justify being an asshole"
I think the proper word is “Racist”
Unfortunately, that may be true.
Uh.. no. They had non racism related backstories to justify it, and they were just asshole players. Don't try to make this a social politics thing.
@@lyrim4678Hating a drow because a different drow wronged you in the past is exactly racism.
Lyrim Their backstories were literally about characters who had the same race and or class at the OP. That’s both racism and bias towards the character. And while in-game it’s those two things, the four people playing were just being dicks about it and plotted to kill the OP for no reason.
As unbelievable as it may be, in the fantasy world of dnd, racism(in some regard) makes sense, especially for the Drow. Most of the Drow race spend their time conducting raids involving murder and pillaging on surface races. So most of the time in the world of dnd, if you see a Drow, or in this case a half-Drow, being untrusting makes sense, at least at first introductions.
Shouldn't the Paladin's Divine Sense tell the party that the rogue had a good aura around him?
Not to mention, I don't think his deity will be please that he broke his oath and striked an unarmed person. I would have stripped all his paladin powers there and then. Forcing him to either repent with debuff in multiple sessions or gtfo my game.
“We’Re JuSt DoInG wHaT oUr ChArAcTeRs WoUlD dO!”
to be fair they were just trying to help out one of their party members
A video on Christmas Eve? Man dats mad.
*B O N E L E S S*
DM in his best Senator Palpatine impression: "Kill them..."
Party doing their best Count Dooku impression: :o
everyone trying to attack the rouge: fails
rouge makes his first attack: INSTANT SUCESS!!!
does anyone else think that that's anoying?
@@liamdalemon1525 The rogue was made to dodge, and the guys had low Hp, it's surprising what a dagger/short-sword can do to someone with low HP.
@@Dewani90 op did say he got sneak attack (probably because of npcs flanking)
Having prejudices against other party members is fun.... But only when you either intend for:
A: Your character overcomes their prejudice by traveling with the ally.
or
B: Your character is going to make a villain turn, and become an NPC BBEG for the party later on.
Having a party where everyone just hates one character and decides to murder them isn't a story. It's like if you made a campaign about KKK members traveling with a black guy, and the finale of the story was that the KKK members lynched the black guy. There's no arc, there's no twist, so it's just boring.
Like the moving picture!
“I’ve had enough. Kill them” best lines were never said by other DMs in similar situations... I wish I had DMs like that, but they always seen to ignore the agressor and stop my retaliation
I should really submit a story or 2 of my own... I have a whole saga I could give this channel like JFC.
Send it to team@allthingsdnd.com or post it on www.allthingsdnd.com
With backstories like those, I feel like those players must have designed their characters with the express purpose of being able to justify being murderhobos.
This reminded me of the first time i played dnd online, my party treated me like their slave just because i was brand new to the game. And no "slave" was not an over exaggeration. They forced me into every room or corridor first to see if any traps would trigger or enemies ambush us. And even the dm was in on it. Constantly stating "well you have the most hp" even though i didn't. They even called me a liar when i said that the fighter had more hp because of his higher con at that level (i was a barbarian with +0 con he was a fighter with +4)
I had a similar experience in my second ever Adventurers League game. Everyone else at my table knew each other, so I was the odd one out. They didn't try to kill me, but they basically defended and healed each other first, and kept trying to put me in the most dangerous situations. Oddly, I was also playing a Drow Rogue. Throughout the game they kept telling me to do sneaky things, and how I should steal things and be stealthy, despite the fact my character wasn't a thief. The character had high Persuasion and Deception as I wanted to have a character that could talk himself out of situations. My character got killed and the DM told me that it was a good death for a sneaky thief. I was unlocking a door in the villain's lair, as I thought he might be holding someone hostage. I was told as I was clearly trying to rob the villain, that my thief deserved to die. I think being told that annoyed me more than my character getting killed. I checked the scenario afterwards, and I'm pretty sure the DM fudged the rules because he liked the idea of killing me in that way. Every other game I've played of D&D has been pretty great, but that was the one exception.
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Notes from a NG human Idiot;
Greetings from lovely Restenford(only 1 more day till AllBlessed Day)!
It warms my heart to hear 'bout an honest person being rewarded for their integrity. True, the others were playing their PC's properly, at least at first. When they attacked the Rogue a second time, that's when it devolved into bullying&mean-spiritness. A session 0 MIGHT'VE worked, but it honestly sounded more like they were acting like they normally did(elitest jerks) so it might not've mattered....
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What a bunch of asshats. I hope that player is enjoying their new rebooted campaign with new players.
Merry Christmas happy Hanukkah and happy holidays to any other festivities I might have missed!
@@joshuacr Same to you friend!
if I was the DM, I would have tried to break up the fight right when the paladin took their first swing, with the words 'You fall', since while Paladins don't need to be Lawful Good anymore, most of their sacred oaths do have an anti-betrayal part, and even if theirs did not, the time taken 'realizing my mistake' would be a good way to let them know metawise that, yeah, they are the assholes here.
Now that's a good DM right there....
This reminds me of a story my friend told me of his greedy party members trying to kill his rogue and take his treasure. They disliked him so sent him to fight the dragon on his own so he would die. He both won and got solo XP going up 3 levels. When he came back with the treasure they wanted all of it or they would kill him. There is a lot to the story, might post it on reddit later, but he ended up killing them all and breaking a staff of the magi, being transported to another realm entirely.
Nice
It makes me sad when I hear stories like this. D&D should be about adventuring with your friends, not being jerks to real people because you get too into roleplaying.
When the party tries to kill my PC... I generally ensure the rest of the party dies.
And with now very close to 48 years of experience playing D&D... I know exactly how to get the rest of the party killed.
I gave the DM of the campaign I am playing in a lesson on how to use a roper , by polymorphing my cleric into a roper and wiping out the enemies that were about to TPK the party.
I love the "Roper Yo-Yo" tactic.
Grapple, reel, hold suspended too far to do anything useful vs the roper and high enough that the fall hurts...
Drop, grapple and reel again next turn.
Drop is a free action... Just let go.
I greatly approve of this
I'm so god damn glad I'm not the only one who thought of that. My only qualm... ropers aren't beasts, polymorph kinda needs that :p
a pity that polimorph only allow for beasts. otherwise I'd have told you...
use an Urophion.
edit: I see that in 3.5 it allowed you to polymorph into everything.
WHY DIDN'T YOU USE A UROPHION MAN
Yikes I'm always a Drow Alchemist so this party would have just murdered me within minutes of interaction
I play paladin a lot, how I work around the whole drow is evil thing is by simply going with this mindset. As long as they are the master of their darkness not the other way around, I have no problem.
Though in the campaign I am currently playing my Sun elf paladin was at one point a drow warlock. Long story I plan to put it on reddit. Anyways he has no problem with beings of darkness or insane people, because he was once both. As a paladin of redemption, he does his best to help them to better lives by setting the example. He's honestly been the funnest pc I've ever rp.
Nah man I got your back 💪
@@theblazingcrusader6322 can you link the story? i would like to read it sounds like a ride
you gotta love how when the paladin tries to kill an unarmed *PARTY* *MEMBER* they decide to TRY TO KILL THE PERSON WHO HE WRONGFULLY ATTACKED! these guys are terrible teammates!
I love good role play But this was to far. I can't defend their actions and that's coming from me, one of the only people who argued in defense of that guy who broke the little girls fingers after becoming a werewolf in that one story.
to be fair what that dragon said was much closer to drow then what he was supposed to say
Still doesn't make a lot of sense... if anything you could think it means some other Drow than the one the dragon just knocked unconscious, because why would he attack his own employer?
@@TanukiTracks One could argue that the dragon would have attacked its employer as a way to mask the connection. Though understandingly that was not the case for the game they were playing.
@@Berehoth if that were the case he probably wouldn't rat him out immediately after.
@@FlyingDominion Ture.
@@Berehoth Fair point I suppose. Really I don't think that situation could have been reasoned out of.
Why do I see the DM as Palpatine tempting the righteous (half-)drow to kill his friend near the end?
Just to be clear, it was a legitimate reason to do so, I would have listen to that Palpatine as well.
Lol when ypur thoughts turn you to play out of alignment. How quickly then turned evil.
Edit: in 3.5 most of them would have lost alignment and the paly would have lost his abilities maybe even the bard it would depend on the DM.
Don't you enjoy it when you spend an hour designing a character with a unique concept and backstory, only to get attempted murdered by your other team players?
Poor thinking on the Paladin's fault; lead by action and moral integrity. Not hauling some reputed half-drow by the collar, like some judge, jury and executioner. Also, cause and effect not connected. The rather poor down-side was character deaths / closure of the game / campaign. Not good.
It's funny when people play paladin's that way. Funny in a, annoying don't do this kind of way. They end up making Paladins more religious then Clerics to the point of being nutcases. Being religiously obsessive about something doesn't have to directly involve religion. His blind hatred of Drow is proof of that. But Paladin's are supposed to be fair minded and follow their oath but most blatantly break their oath without a second thought to pursue this blind hatred. Why not just be a Cleric, then, if you can't keep a Oath and your hatred is basically your religion?
Thank goodness for the DM. I am very hesitant around most DM's now due to past experiences. I only really trust one, and that's my husband. I am one myself and have a habit of over rewarding my players. I also warn my players that I can go heavy on them, but I will not let them die unnecessarily, always root for them, and let give them very OP items and feats early on for no reason.
When you 1v4 and still manage to win after a boss fight
I have done it before but it still that is a good achievement and flex to use
1v4 a party after a bossfight, AFTER getting downed with only a single potion's worth of regeneration is a REAL damn flex
@BlindEyeNeo *We are entering levels of flexing that shouldn’t even be possible*
I'm surprised he didn't get hit. he was so lucky there!
It‘s rouge，and probably the aggressive party is someone lack of experience and imaginations. No one should expect anything good coming from bullies anyway.
This happened to me a lot when I play Drow. Even if they’re good aligned, they’re the first to get attacked/ bullied. Most of my DMs though don’t do anything about it. It’s nice to hear there’s decent DMs out there. Loved the story.
Good DM
Players should have tried communicating out of character about situation. I get the feeling that other players were either way too into their rp or had something against the the drow player irl.
Well it was likely do to the drow not being in their click. so they were trying to run him off.
I've had to essentially hand-of-God a bullying situation before as DM. It's one reason I like to introduce an old, retired-from-adventuring Paladin to the party early in the campaign, who is comfortably 5 or so levels higher than I plan the party to be by endgame, whose commitments prevent him/her from solving the plot on his/her own. If things start getting out of hand and players take bullying ingame, I have the retired Paladin come across the party while following a dreamsent warning from one of their god's servitors (typically because said god has a vested interest in the party stopping the BBEG, sometimes because that particular servitor likes to keep tabs on their adventures to pass the time and what's transpiring runs afoul of their ethical/moral code). The Paladin is high enough level and geared well enough to defend the bullied player from the others, and has a spell selection to end combat early and force anything spoken to be the truth (with high-enough saves required that the party is highly unlikely to be able to brute-force through it).
This is kind of a last-ditch trick to pull out of my bag, only if things are going very badly, because I hate using deus ex machina lightly. If I can feasibly solve the problem without having a high-tier NPC come in and babysit for a session, I'll take any other remedy no matter how insane I consider it. But sometimes, I've needed to, well, have a paladin come babysit the party because the players are being ponces but the issues aren't insurmountable with some table time to air shit out.
Man, I would just love to have my Hexblade mixed in with these yahoos. He's actually a pretty decent guy on the whole, but "Dark Magic" is his entire MO.
They would absolutely be trying to kill him, but well... to put it simply, he is a character that has outlived several others and survived two TPKs. His damage output is great, he's unusually tough for a Warlock, and he's more slippery than a greased eel. And honestly, he's just really good at messing with people.
It would be great fun to repeatedly make a joke of their idiotic murder attempts.
There's nothing wrong with player rivalries or fighting or even PvP, AS LONG AS EVERYONE HAS AGREED TO IT. I had a great experience with it in my first campaign, but me and the other player has both agreed to it and made sure the other was comfortable with it beforehand. Nobody should have to deal with bullies like this, it's bullshit and I'm sorry this guy had to.
I think this is the first D&D story like this I've heard where the DM actually intervened. Really wish that was a more standard response when the party starts to bully one of the members.
When most of the bullies turned out to be Humans I thought that this may have been one of those "racist human" type of character.
This is where the dm says “ok all of u roll dex save oh u got a nat 20? Too bad the dc was 100 you all die instantly.”
Ok, i’m not being mean or insulting you but you sound exactly like Sonic the hedgehog
Well, technically, those players were in character. The problem is that their characters were awful people.
I'll be honest, got a guy in our group whose character has a dark, edgy, blood-filled past - a CN tiefling assassin who killed his own mother (to be honest, the DM doesn't like that guy's backstory too much, and I don't know much about it myself, as I am new to the group, and this guy hasn't played for a few months as the DM was taking a break to deal with creativity block - played Lost Mines of Phalandover with a player who wanted to try to do some DMing so that folks had something to do, which was fun for me as I was a newbie learning the ropes) and generally has a "Forget this stuff" (only a bit more rude) sort of attitude. Me, I'm a LG Fighter, who was the Commander of a City's guard, who had lead a rebellion against a corrupt king, even killing said king, only to get back-stabbed by a "So-called" ally. In any case, as a guard, trust and teamwork would be important to my guy, and he'd have to be deaf, blind, and very dumb, to not notice this assassin not even trying to help out. To be far, I joined the party at Level 5, now 6, so since my guy has seen a few things obviously, I'd like to talk to the DM about the possibility of my guy and the tiefling having a conversation, and try to smooth things out. It might allow for that character to start to become more social.
Darkness isn't even, an evil spell, what..
Wow these people SUCK. I’ve been in this situation before where you just feel powerless and like everything against you even though you didn’t do anything
They have a right to play as any character they want...but it does bend logic in how they worked together as long as they did with that kind of in game suspicions and motivations. The characters should have reasons to work together fairly quickly after teaming up or...why even bother sticking together? They should have worked with him to have an arc that lets them all work together. Not try to lynch mob him.
PvP conflict can be great. If the other PCs had reasons to dislike or mistrust OCs character, that could've made got some good roleplay.
But in those situations, they should've talked things through OOC to make sure OP was still enjoying himself. And it definitely shouldn't have ended with them trying to kill him. Thank God the DM took his side.
I just realized that this is basically an isekai plot.
*RISING OF THE SHIELD HERO INTENSEFIES*
DM: Now... kill them
PC: I shouldn't. It's not the player way.
DM: Dew it
My party acts like, even though they weren't following my character, they knew everything "bad" my character did and, in character, treated my character like shit. I proceeded to say they were racist because my character is brown lol.
Tastey metagame koolaid.
I never get why such groups don't try to grow a spine and straightout say "hey dude, there isn't anything wrong with you, but we want to RP as friends here and don't want anyone from outside to join". Instead they try to alienize the player with coming out with excuses to either kill him or make him feel miserable in-game, while wasting both their and the targeted player's time in real life in the process.
When the dice gods and DM are in your favor...
Your DM's npc companion was surprisingly helpful. XD
Not gonna lie. That was intense. Kinda pissed me off. But ended well.
Whether this was bullying or not depends on whether they wrote their backstories after they learned what the other was going to play or not. If they did not, then they actually played their characters as they should have reacted.
This, however, does not take away the fact that the DM did ask them to not kill him and they did anyway.
Ok, given the backstories...I understand a bit of why the other players reacted like that, it does make the half-Drow rogue seem like someone created as a party traitor in collaboration with the DM.
Gimli: I never thought I’d die fighting side by side with an Elf.
Legolas: How about side by side with a friend?
Gimli: Aye. I could do that.
this DM is top tier waifu
This gets me through my 10hr shifts. Love you All Things DnD!
I had a similar experience myself once before. I was playing a Kobold Wizard, and the others were playing a Human Monk, Kenku Rogue, Goliath Barbarian, and a Teifling Cleric.
The Campaign was homebrewed, and our first task was to deliver a weird looking lantern, to a museum in a large city (The Lantern was obviously magical, and everyone knew it, but that's not relevant for the story now).
We spent roughly 3 sessions in between getting hired on our first mission and actually finishing it. All the way through was hell for my Kobold Wizard.
For context on my character, my Kobold Wizard was actually Chaotic Good as he was part of a tribe that helped build the Sewers of one of the major cities in the campaign, and worked with others races quite often, eventually doing a favor for a Wizard by collecting Spell Components for her and slowly but surely picking up Magic along the way.
Now, back to the campaign. We entered a village where we were to stay the night as we waited for our employer to arrive. There was a few disagreements on who should sleep where at the inn/tavern, as 4 of us were all Races not exactly known for being good. But eventually Cleric, Barbarian, and Monk decided to share a room for a few reasons.
1. Monk was Human and took a Magical Oath to do no harm to the unarmed.
2. Teifling was a Cleric of Bahamut, the God of Metallic Good Dragons. So you know, being the Cleric of a Good Deity makes you trust worthy.
3. Barbarian is a Goliath, honor bound to serve his tribe, who told him to go with our group as it would "make him stronger".
That only left me and Kenku to figure things out, after a bit of debating, I ended up getting kicked out of the Inn, as Monk told the Inn Keeper "Let the Kenku stay, he's our servant like Kenku usually are." "And what about the Kobold?" "Who? Him? Eh, leave him outside. His Wizard Masted will probably find him." So my character got shoved to the curb for the night, at least I Prestitation to start a Campfire for warmth. Still, it pissed me off but it was the start of Session 1 and I didn't want to argue and ruin the fun. Besides, it was one time, how bad could it be?
The next day, after we get the Lantern and are on our way, a little bit outside the City we were just in, we get ambushed by some Dragonborn Fighters and Sorcerers, all Level 1, claiming to be after the Lantern. We fight them off, but take a few blows ourselves from piss poor rolls. Cleric Heals everyone up except for me. I ask why and he replies "It is Bahamut's will, he would not want me to Heal such a lowly creature, such as yourself who slaves under the Dragons of Tiamot."
That annoyed me a little, as my Kobold was a devoted worshiper of Bahamut in his spare time, as he hopes by doing this, it will prevent him from losing his way and turning evil.
I go to the Goliath Barbarian and asked him for a Healing Potion if he had one extra, he did, but refused to give it to me cause my character was a Monster Race. Again, annoying, but whatever, Kenku can steal if right?
Wrong, as soon as I asked, Kenku, outloud, repeated exactly, word for word what my character asked, basically asking to steal Goliath's Healing Potion. That instantly turned the other players against me, and the DM stepped in before Initiative could be rolled, saying "No PvP!" The other players complied, only if I was to be tied up.
And so, I was, the DM had to reluctantly agree just to shut them up, but at least the DM was kind enough to heal me secretly without the other players knowing, just deciding to Deus Ex Machina it.
Still, for Session 1 and a bit of 2 I was being dragged around on the ground, unable to get up due to my piss poor strength and -1 to it as well (Thanks WotC). Thank god the DM decided to end that drag fest, as I constantly took damage in combat, and no one would heal me, so the DM either had to basically play around me as I fail my strength checks, or heal me up with zero explanations.
Anyway, this is getting long enough, so I'll speed through the rest.
Session 2 was basically more of the same, alienating my character and no Healing, Session 3 was when it hit the fan. My Magic Missle misses my original target in combat, and hits Goliath for some pretty trash damage, like hitting an Elephant with a Marshmallow. But apparently, that was enough to enrage the Goliath, and everyone else after combat eventually ended, and then it started back up again as the PCs attacked my Kobold.
As soon as the first Roll to attack me was made, the DM got up and told everyone to leave, Session Over.
Now I still played through the campaign, but it was basically hard reset after Session 3 with some new players.
Not sure what it was with the other guys, if they just hated the Monsterious Races or if it was some personal beef with me. Either way, I hope I never play with those guys ever again.
Dm: Finish them
Half-elf half-drow: I have the power of Dragons and Dungeons on my side! *SCREEEE* (I know it's the other way around)
Another great video guys!!
Actually have someone in a campaign I am playing and he is a troll in other games he has lost us powerful weapons destroyed story lines giving us not the best endings...recently he decided he will troll me a lot and the GM wasn’t having I’m a 7 foot tall human barbarian and he tried stabbing me in the d*ck nat 1 GM “you stab yourself in the d*ck it’s split in half” the rest of the party just walked away expect our wild sorcerer who stood over him eating a GIANT cookie watching the pc bleed out almost
Convenient how no one knows the first thing about magic if it allows them to be hostile towards another character, but in any other circumstance anything magical is practically common knowledge.
Which is interesting because there was a sorcerer and a bard in the party. They should know exactly what the darkness spell is yet still turned on him during that argument.
i mean yeah they were jerks, but from the back stories all but the bard had a reason to distrust or want to kill the character, but it could've been done better, that and they also went against the dm i don't play dnd but you don't do that
And THIS this BS is why I ALWAYS insist that PCs have at least a basic fundamental respect for each other unless PC actions or story elements dictate otherwise
Man, I'd have just left the party, that's bullsh*t
If I was him I would disengage and run like hell! I would hope like hell that I had enough dexterity to take a dash action without taking attack opertunity