_"You think it's funny to take a child away from the only parents he's ever known?"_ Which parent is Stephanie talking about? The maid? The babysitter? The help spends more time with Little Eric than Rick does.
There's irony in Sally gloating that her family _gained_ a Forrester-in-name (Little Eric) when she'll soon _lose_ her company to a Forrester-in-name (Brooke).
Yes - it's a parallel to what you observed about the original BeLieF storyline where one side gets the "family" win, and the other side gets the "business" win!
Sally telling Stephanie & Eric, "You compartmentalize everything" (17:40) feels like a meta commentary on the show where even in the better-written years, the B storyline was often isolated and the Forresters never gave a damn about what was happening with Thorne and Macy.
The fuse for Brooke was lit. In no time she becomes so jealous of Sam that she wants to claw her eyes out. Although she still couldn't decide on Ridge. But of course no one else is allowed to have him 😂
A rare bit of (eyeroll inducing) character consistency: that useless dingus Eric has *nothing* to say in the opening scenes when Amber is spiraling out, until Amber (correctly) points out that things were fine until Brooke had the brilliant idea to take out a restraining order against Macy. Then Eric wakes up, literally interrupts Amber mid-sentence, and barks, “pointing fingers isn’t helpful!” Never change, Eric. Never change. 🙄
All thoses fights and battles around Little Eric only to have him completely dissapear like he never exist and we have to suffer the spawn of brooke, hope...
Just like it will be with Jack later. They first create this completely idiotic story with the donor egg being mixed up, only for Nick and Taylor to separate and later no one knows where Nick and Jack have disappeared to and Brooke hasn't mentioned him once again, even though she's "so strong "motherly feelings".
I love that the Forresters are all doom, gloom, and dysfunction, while the Spectras are all, yet another excuse to party! 😂. No wonder Little Eric likes them better. I did laugh at Eric and Stephanie interrupting Sally’s “villain arc” soliloquy. Poor Sally can’t have even 5 minutes to herself before the Forresters ruin it.
And again, Little Eric was laughing and having fun - something we have _never_ seen him do in his scenes with Rick and Amber. The whole narrative of Deacon and Macy taking a little boy away from his loving home is undermined by the kid actor so obviously preferring SK, BE, and the rest of the Spectra gang.
I don’t get it either. You get us all ready to see the conclusion of Macy/Amber fight. And we can’t even see the conclusion of it. Why post these episodes, but yet skip episodes, leaving us lost and confused. It’s annoying.
The irony of the story: Brooke, Amber and Rick have accused Macy of only marrying Deacon to avoid the restraining order. Now Ricky is planning a divorce so he can adopt little Eric. Hehehehe
*Summary of the missing episode 4109* Because _of course_ this episode is missing, just like the best part of Macy's funeral (episode 3345). Amber and Macy are on the fIoor and Amber is doing her best reenactment of Ursula's wedding scene in _The Little Mermaid._ Rick and Deacon have to puII Amber away and get her out of the chapeI while Gladys gets everything on tape and dreams of an Oscar. Julie the lawyer is trying to tell Amber that she is only making things worse for herself. After Rick and Amber are gone, the wedding continues, with Deacon joking that at least it's not b or ing. They tell the minister that they want a quick ceremony in case there are more interruptions (Gladys calls it the McMarriage, and Deacon and Macy agree that's the one they want). Vows, rings, and they're done. Meanwhile, Amber makes an attempt to drive off with Little Eric, but is stopped by Julie the lawyer, who tells her that it is not good for Little Eric to see Amber Iashing out at Deacon and Macy, and that Amber's behavior may even be criminaI. Julie says that she has *filed the paper to reinstate Deacon as Eric's **_legal guardian_* (hello DisBeLieF storyline!). For the thirtieth time, Deacon and Macy try to reassure Amber and Rick that everything will be fine, it's just a one-week vacation. Macy gets Eric so he can say goodbye, and after Deacon and Macy leave with the child, Rick promises Amber that they will get him back. Brooke is with Ridge, talking about the wedding, and Ridge is very sympathetic (he should have seen her with Macy a few episodes ago). Ridge tells Brooke not to give up on the whole Rick and Amber and Eric situation (this is the most attention Brooke has given that kid in his whole life). Ridge wants to take Brooke for dinner but Nicky appears and says that he already has plans with Brooke. So Brooke goes out with Nicky instead. Steph and Samantha talk and we get a long and terribly interesting explanation 😴 of their retconned off screen history, and Samantha's entire life story, and a recap of Ridge losing Taylor. Apparently Samantha was their neighbor at one point, used to play sports with Ridge when they were kids (how were they even kids together when Samantha looks like she's not even 30?) and she is now an interior decorator (actual dialogue about a _lamp_ ensues). The little dog is just kind of there. Ridge shows up and tells his mother that Brooke is on a date with Nicky, and then he sees Samantha and it's a happy reunion -between two people who have never met.- They start playing with piIIows and it's exactly as contrived as it sounds. I guess we are supposed to see Sam as a potential love interest for Ridge because they were childhood friends or something. 🙄
When Sally cIaims Little Eric as her grandson, and says that Macy will "finally have justice" because of her marriage to Deacon, it is actually good continuity because back in 2000, the Spectras also connected the battIe with the Forresters for Little Eric to getting "justice" for Macy's death. Then, the Forresters managed to get Little Eric away from the Spectra family through Deacon, and now, the Spectras have got Little Eric _back_ from the Forresters through Deacon. The justice Sally is talking about now is the same one that she has been pursuing ever since Macy "died". (And she actually seems _more_ enthusiastic about the "vengeance" aspect of this wedding than Macy is, because it is an extension of her desire to avenge Macy's "death".)
Great point! This does indeed feel like a continuation of that custody storyline and so even though the writing and pacing is so rushed, at least Sally's motives and involvement feels less contrived. The show is always on stronger footing when it goes back to these core rivalries rather than the lame ones Brad tries to engineer (Massimo vs Eric, Ridge vs Nick, Macy vs Amber).
@@NewYorkNick0607 Yes, and it also creates a similar dynamic between Macy and Sally that we've also seen with Taylor and Stephanie, where the "mother figure" who is not limited by the Good Girl archetype is allowed to do, and say, the things the Good Girl may _want_ to do and say but can't. Macy has been saying all along that her motives are simply helping reunite Deacon with his children, but Sally is allowed to unapologetically say that it is about winning Little Eric away from the Forresters.
How is Rick supposed to have a better chance of getting custody of Little Eric if he divorces Amber? He would be a singIe father, with no biological connection to the child, and Amber was the one with the parental rights until recently. Rick was just the stepdad. Make it make sense.
Yeah, speaking from the legal corner here - that literally makes no sense for the reasons you enumerated, but also because she’s the only one with a biological connection to the child (cousin). There’s also a video of the child’s actual mother saying she wants Amber to have custody. She’d have to commit to anger management classes and all four of them would have to take mediation and conflict resolution, probably, but a divorce would be a terrible idea. It shows instability in the home where Little Eric grew up. One of Brad’s dumbest and laziest plotlines.
@@FayeIL Rick too had his doubts with that legal advice. I just don't get why these rich people never hire a team of attorneys and always just put their trust in one person. Jonathan's work before has already been lacking (threatening Deacon to stay away - but not lecturing them about the stalled adoption process and how the agreement that Deacon had signed before, might become meaningless )
they had Tricia and Samantha as Taylor fillers. It's too bad they didn't have Amber arrested for assault. Wasn't Amber supposed to raise Little Eric with CJ? Oh, Rick, Brooke just made a mountain out of a mole hill. Rick needs to get a divorce to prove he is a stable parent, and yet Deacon and Macy are married, and Deacon is the bio parent of Eric.
Amber assumes that Macy wants to take Little Eric away from him. And in these past few episodes, Macy has been saying things that sound like she is thre at ening to do that - but with an important distinction. These thre at s are _conditionaI_ - Macy says that _unless Amber gets it together,_ she will lose Eric. And, as it will turn out, this is actually what ends up happening. Amber will not controI herself, and because of that, she will lose her child due to putting his life in danger.
Samantha is way too young to be childhood friends with Ridge… and based on the events that will happen in season 17, Samantha is canonically in her early 30s, which Ridge is not. Ronn Moss looked young when he started on this show but his age is showing from this point on and so he just looks like an old man next to Sam… but I guess it’s an upgrade from him being paired with Bridget…
Isn't it funny these Forresters are bad mouthing on Deacon and months from now he will help them with the shares of his son get the company back from Brooke hhhhh
why not upload all the episodes at once. feel you can make it more interesting? i lost interesst... with all this artificial delays, missing episodes even seasons. i would think a pro is behind this channel but apparently not.
What happened to Jonathan?? I guess they fired him after he didn’t inform Rick and Amber that they didn’t have a leg to stand on unless they adopted Little Eric I mean if he was clear they wouldn’t have dragged their feet for so long Or been so shocked that Deacon still had rights.
Tricia didn't work, let's try with Samantha. But if the intention is to substitute Taylor character why they pick all those young ladies? Are they for Ridge? And also why introducing them if none will be involved with Ridge? Just to shape a fake obstacle to Bridge? They already have the obstacle: Nicky.
@annieo6527 It's that Taylor (as passive as character as she was) was really loved as by many. The writer didn't know how to write for Taylor ( her last seasons before her de ath are awfully written for he). Macy is a great character and perfect to overshadow Brooke. As you said she has so much potential in the plot. I'm upset Taylor s time is over, Macy won't last and Stephanie is not the same.
This storyline is so stupid. Deacon signed over parental rights. He has zero rights to Little Eric. Hope is different. He has every legal right to Hope. Macy though, with her alcoholism, would not be a good wife to bring into family court.
😂😂😂amber is now the crazyfactor, yeah we already knew. If the court finds out Ambers history, like her pill addiction- no points in court there Amber. And again, you and rick have no legal claim on that boy. Nothing. Just exept it- thats life. Even adoption will never happen Forresters- accept you can not always get youre own way!😅
_"You think it's funny to take a child away from the only parents he's ever known?"_
Which parent is Stephanie talking about? The maid? The babysitter? The help spends more time with Little Eric than Rick does.
It's Martha. She will be heartbroken. 😂
There's irony in Sally gloating that her family _gained_ a Forrester-in-name (Little Eric) when she'll soon _lose_ her company to a Forrester-in-name (Brooke).
Yes - it's a parallel to what you observed about the original BeLieF storyline where one side gets the "family" win, and the other side gets the "business" win!
She's not going to lose her company to Brooke.
Sally telling Stephanie & Eric, "You compartmentalize everything" (17:40) feels like a meta commentary on the show where even in the better-written years, the B storyline was often isolated and the Forresters never gave a damn about what was happening with Thorne and Macy.
Note that once again, Stephanie has forgotten about Thorne. 😂
The fuse for Brooke was lit. In no time she becomes so jealous of Sam that she wants to claw her eyes out. Although she still couldn't decide on Ridge. But of course no one else is allowed to have him 😂
Another pretty woman in town to outshine Brooke and for her to be jealous of.
And she will be!!! 😂
Imagine two family trees fighting over a kid that's not even biologically theirs.
A rare bit of (eyeroll inducing) character consistency: that useless dingus Eric has *nothing* to say in the opening scenes when Amber is spiraling out, until Amber (correctly) points out that things were fine until Brooke had the brilliant idea to take out a restraining order against Macy. Then Eric wakes up, literally interrupts Amber mid-sentence, and barks, “pointing fingers isn’t helpful!” Never change, Eric. Never change. 🙄
Eric is Brooke's biggest Stan. I'm surprised he didn't tell Amber, "You're just jealous! Brooke's outlasted everyone! Show your pic!"
@@SuzanneAllen-ne2nr😂😂 😂
Thanks for dragging that Jeff Ep stein lookalike (and act-alike) for me so I don't have to watch a scene with Amber.
I noticed that too! The moment Amber (correctly) put the bIame on Brooke, Eric was there to defend her.
@@SuzanneAllen-ne2nrBrooke is the star😂
Rick will never see the error of his mother ways just like Spineless Eric
All thoses fights and battles around Little Eric only to have him completely dissapear like he never exist and we have to suffer the spawn of brooke, hope...
Yess.
Just like it will be with Jack later. They first create this completely idiotic story with the donor egg being mixed up, only for Nick and Taylor to separate and later no one knows where Nick and Jack have disappeared to and Brooke hasn't mentioned him once again, even though she's "so strong "motherly feelings".
Spawn?? Disgusting comment
What ever happened to Little Eric? Who ended up raising him?
I love that the Forresters are all doom, gloom, and dysfunction, while the Spectras are all, yet another excuse to party! 😂. No wonder Little Eric likes them better.
I did laugh at Eric and Stephanie interrupting Sally’s “villain arc” soliloquy. Poor Sally can’t have even 5 minutes to herself before the Forresters ruin it.
And again, Little Eric was laughing and having fun - something we have _never_ seen him do in his scenes with Rick and Amber. The whole narrative of Deacon and Macy taking a little boy away from his loving home is undermined by the kid actor so obviously preferring SK, BE, and the rest of the Spectra gang.
What happenned to episode 4109?
They skipped on purpose
I don’t get it either. You get us all ready to see the conclusion of Macy/Amber fight. And we can’t even see the conclusion of it. Why post these episodes, but yet skip episodes, leaving us lost and confused. It’s annoying.
@@ec7152why do they do that?
Yeah I thought somehow I skipped it and was going back to find it.
Same BS that they do on this channel ALL the time. It's infuriating. Like, WHY??!!
The irony of the story: Brooke, Amber and Rick have accused Macy of only marrying Deacon to avoid the restraining order. Now Ricky is planning a divorce so he can adopt little Eric. Hehehehe
Samantha Who? Now on CBS.
*Summary of the missing episode 4109*
Because _of course_ this episode is missing, just like the best part of Macy's funeral (episode 3345).
Amber and Macy are on the fIoor and Amber is doing her best reenactment of Ursula's wedding scene in _The Little Mermaid._ Rick and Deacon have to puII Amber away and get her out of the chapeI while Gladys gets everything on tape and dreams of an Oscar. Julie the lawyer is trying to tell Amber that she is only making things worse for herself. After Rick and Amber are gone, the wedding continues, with Deacon joking that at least it's not b or ing. They tell the minister that they want a quick ceremony in case there are more interruptions (Gladys calls it the McMarriage, and Deacon and Macy agree that's the one they want). Vows, rings, and they're done.
Meanwhile, Amber makes an attempt to drive off with Little Eric, but is stopped by Julie the lawyer, who tells her that it is not good for Little Eric to see Amber Iashing out at Deacon and Macy, and that Amber's behavior may even be criminaI. Julie says that she has *filed the paper to reinstate Deacon as Eric's **_legal guardian_* (hello DisBeLieF storyline!). For the thirtieth time, Deacon and Macy try to reassure Amber and Rick that everything will be fine, it's just a one-week vacation. Macy gets Eric so he can say goodbye, and after Deacon and Macy leave with the child, Rick promises Amber that they will get him back.
Brooke is with Ridge, talking about the wedding, and Ridge is very sympathetic (he should have seen her with Macy a few episodes ago). Ridge tells Brooke not to give up on the whole Rick and Amber and Eric situation (this is the most attention Brooke has given that kid in his whole life). Ridge wants to take Brooke for dinner but Nicky appears and says that he already has plans with Brooke. So Brooke goes out with Nicky instead.
Steph and Samantha talk and we get a long and terribly interesting explanation 😴 of their retconned off screen history, and Samantha's entire life story, and a recap of Ridge losing Taylor. Apparently Samantha was their neighbor at one point, used to play sports with Ridge when they were kids (how were they even kids together when Samantha looks like she's not even 30?) and she is now an interior decorator (actual dialogue about a _lamp_ ensues). The little dog is just kind of there. Ridge shows up and tells his mother that Brooke is on a date with Nicky, and then he sees Samantha and it's a happy reunion -between two people who have never met.- They start playing with piIIows and it's exactly as contrived as it sounds. I guess we are supposed to see Sam as a potential love interest for Ridge because they were childhood friends or something. 🙄
Thank you for this😊
Thank you, Annie. REALLY, thank you!❤
🙏 Thank you Annie!
Thank you Annie, you are a Gem 💎
Thank you so much. Ridge seems more animated with anyone but Brooke. He's mostly begging Brooke
Even a derailed wedding can't prevent the Spectras from having an office party. 🥳
It's just an excuse to have _two_ parties. 😂
I'm only noticing now how even the mannequins in Sally's office are wearing sombreros! 😂
A strong decent family. Have you not seen Granny Logan and Grandpa Eric's history. 🤣😂
When Sally cIaims Little Eric as her grandson, and says that Macy will "finally have justice" because of her marriage to Deacon, it is actually good continuity because back in 2000, the Spectras also connected the battIe with the Forresters for Little Eric to getting "justice" for Macy's death. Then, the Forresters managed to get Little Eric away from the Spectra family through Deacon, and now, the Spectras have got Little Eric _back_ from the Forresters through Deacon.
The justice Sally is talking about now is the same one that she has been pursuing ever since Macy "died".
(And she actually seems _more_ enthusiastic about the "vengeance" aspect of this wedding than Macy is, because it is an extension of her desire to avenge Macy's "death".)
Great point! This does indeed feel like a continuation of that custody storyline and so even though the writing and pacing is so rushed, at least Sally's motives and involvement feels less contrived. The show is always on stronger footing when it goes back to these core rivalries rather than the lame ones Brad tries to engineer (Massimo vs Eric, Ridge vs Nick, Macy vs Amber).
@@NewYorkNick0607 Yes, and it also creates a similar dynamic between Macy and Sally that we've also seen with Taylor and Stephanie, where the "mother figure" who is not limited by the Good Girl archetype is allowed to do, and say, the things the Good Girl may _want_ to do and say but can't. Macy has been saying all along that her motives are simply helping reunite Deacon with his children, but Sally is allowed to unapologetically say that it is about winning Little Eric away from the Forresters.
How is Rick supposed to have a better chance of getting custody of Little Eric if he divorces Amber? He would be a singIe father, with no biological connection to the child, and Amber was the one with the parental rights until recently. Rick was just the stepdad. Make it make sense.
He is the most stable and consistently present parent.
Yeah, speaking from the legal corner here - that literally makes no sense for the reasons you enumerated, but also because she’s the only one with a biological connection to the child (cousin). There’s also a video of the child’s actual mother saying she wants Amber to have custody. She’d have to commit to anger management classes and all four of them would have to take mediation and conflict resolution, probably, but a divorce would be a terrible idea. It shows instability in the home where Little Eric grew up. One of Brad’s dumbest and laziest plotlines.
The day after the attorney suggests Rick divorce Amber, he is handing her divorce papers. 😂
Like take a moment to think about things.
@@FayeIL Rick too had his doubts with that legal advice. I just don't get why these rich people never hire a team of attorneys and always just put their trust in one person.
Jonathan's work before has already been lacking (threatening Deacon to stay away - but not lecturing them about the stalled adoption process and how the agreement that Deacon had signed before, might become meaningless )
@@mara4450Jonathan’s incompetence is so legendary at this point, I’m beginning to question if he actually went to law school.
Why would you want to take a child on your Honeymoon ?? 😂
Exactly
Sally and Clark are true friends❤
So who is Samantha? Where did she come from? Or her past. I'm lost.
they had Tricia and Samantha as Taylor fillers. It's too bad they didn't have Amber arrested for assault. Wasn't Amber supposed to raise Little Eric with CJ? Oh, Rick, Brooke just made a mountain out of a mole hill. Rick needs to get a divorce to prove he is a stable parent, and yet Deacon and Macy are married, and Deacon is the bio parent of Eric.
Amber assumes that Macy wants to take Little Eric away from him. And in these past few episodes, Macy has been saying things that sound like she is thre at ening to do that - but with an important distinction. These thre at s are _conditionaI_ - Macy says that _unless Amber gets it together,_ she will lose Eric. And, as it will turn out, this is actually what ends up happening. Amber will not controI herself, and because of that, she will lose her child due to putting his life in danger.
Damn....WTF was Brat Bell thinking?? Macy is clearly good for Deacon, he should have kept this one going. Ugh.
It would of been better if they put Ridge with Samantha instead of the Mattress
Samantha is way too young to be childhood friends with Ridge… and based on the events that will happen in season 17, Samantha is canonically in her early 30s, which Ridge is not. Ronn Moss looked young when he started on this show but his age is showing from this point on and so he just looks like an old man next to Sam… but I guess it’s an upgrade from him being paired with Bridget…
Isn't it funny these Forresters are bad mouthing on Deacon and months from now he will help them with the shares of his son get the company back from Brooke hhhhh
Not months. Days.
The actor playing Samantha appeared in the mini series The Thorne Birds as young Meggie Cleary.
1:12 Ridge using the metaphor "smooth sailing" now that he biologically is a Marone, is so ironic.
Oh of course, let's skip another episode!
why not upload all the episodes at once. feel you can make it more interesting? i lost interesst... with all this artificial delays, missing episodes even seasons. i would think a pro is behind this channel but apparently not.
Let Macy be happy
Sidney and Ronn look good together
Another brunette, looking kind of like Taylor 🙄
What happened to Jonathan??
I guess they fired him after he didn’t inform Rick and Amber
that they didn’t have a leg to stand on unless they adopted Little Eric
I mean if he was clear they wouldn’t have dragged their feet for so long
Or been so shocked that Deacon still had rights.
I think he retired
Hi! So Where is ep 4109?
Samantha was also played on 90210 season 10
Where's the episode of 4109?!! 😡
Who the heck is this?? And where is the missing episode? I looked all over internet too!!!!
Would Rick, being single, have more in his favor than little Erics biological, married father😏🙄?
Does the divorce storyline for Rick and Amber start from here?
Macy is trying to control the situation with little Eric and Deacon
Samantha looks like Sydney Penny
She is
@@-Lily7415@annlavine3576Sydney Penny played Julia Santos on AMC. She played Maria Santo's sister and she was married to Noah
Tricia didn't work, let's try with Samantha.
But if the intention is to substitute Taylor character why they pick all those young ladies? Are they for Ridge? And also why introducing them if none will be involved with Ridge?
Just to shape a fake obstacle to Bridge? They already have the obstacle: Nicky.
Maybe it's so Brooke will finally make up her mind. Give her some competition for Ridge and she'll want to marry him.
@annieo6527 It's that Taylor (as passive as character as she was) was really loved as by many. The writer didn't know how to write for Taylor ( her last seasons before her de ath are awfully written for he).
Macy is a great character and perfect to overshadow Brooke. As you said she has so much potential in the plot.
I'm upset Taylor s time is over, Macy won't last and Stephanie is not the same.
Who’s that lady ridge is talking too? The skipped episode has me confused. lol
Who is that Samantha??coming out of nowhere 😮
Bye bye 4109 😂😂😂
By the way ep 3345 is also missing
Can soneone fill me in on what happened in the missing episode?
18:05 😂
Another episode skipped??? Typical.
Wasn't Sydney Penny Felicia or a Logan
When does Amber get off the Show?
Huh??
This storyline is so stupid. Deacon signed over parental rights. He has zero rights to Little Eric. Hope is different. He has every legal right to Hope. Macy though, with her alcoholism, would not be a good wife to bring into family court.
Nor is Amber's pill addiction.
😂😂😂amber is now the crazyfactor, yeah we already knew. If the court finds out Ambers history, like her pill addiction- no points in court there Amber.
And again, you and rick have no legal claim on that boy.
Nothing.
Just exept it- thats life.
Even adoption will never happen
Forresters- accept you can not always get youre own way!😅
Good
Another skipped episode. 4109 is missing.
This channel is a complete joke.
You really can't get it right.
I guess amber plan is backfiring 😅