LETSHUOER Cadenza 4 - 1+3 Hybrid for the Mids Fans
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Many thanks to LETSHUOER for sending the Cadenza 4, you will be able to find it here:
letshuoer.net/products/letshu...
Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
00:49 Graph
01:31 Price
01:52 Who should buy it?
04:00 What is it?
04:19 vs CKLVX
05:15 Sound
08:46 $200 Curse
10:15 Perfect
10:52 Bass EQ
11:31 Bass
14:30 Mids
20:14 Treble
21:53 Stage
Thanks Paul for this detailed review. I listened to this review twice. As a 69 year old with a lifetime of music system building and music enjoyment….I identified with your description of these IEMs. With that I purchased these IEMs this morning and Amazon delivered them this evening! Yes, same day delivery. I just spent 90 minutes listening with Qobuz on my iPad Pro. I’m using a $100.00 portable DAC/amp with my iPad. This is no doubt my limiting piece….with that I’m hearing everything you described…. beautiful balance and detail with very nice vocals of all kind. I’m stunned with the space between musicians and instruments. I say this coming from enjoying my Magnepan .7 speakers and a very nice system driving them.
The IEMs are beautiful and all the accessories are very nice.
Thanks again Paul, this is the most enjoyable $250.00 I’ve spent on my hobby.
Cadenza4 is a bit of a sleeper but Letshuoer knows how to tune and picked a few drivers that match well. I don't say every $200 is worth $200, but that one is for that combination of drivers and tuning. Glad you are enjoying it.
Always appreciate your videos, Thanks!!
Really like how you serve the viewers. You explain who the iem's are for. You focus on how individual preferences relate to the products you review. Your own preferences are only used as a point of reference, not a goal. Incredibly well done 👏
That is the issue right, I mgiht not like bright sets, but is a set executing on a bright signature well? Is there enough balance. Too many new reviewers just say something is garbage because they don't like it but that isn't how it should work. At least explain why or what parts don't work. Thank you
Thanks for the review. For everyone in this comment section, AMA :D
My love tuning profil 👌
Excellent review as always, very intresting!
I was thinking of the getting the Truthears Nova or Chopin which are cheaper than the Cadenza 4. Is this a better upgrade to the TRN ST5? My complaints with the ST5 is one note bass and bit to harsh metal BA timbre at times ...
I'm pro minor EQing...
You liked the Hype 2 a lot, how does it compare to the Cadenza 4?
I would say if you have Hype 2 and are EQ'ing, just EQ it to Cadenza 4 roughly. It is just going to shift the balance and tonality a bit. I don't think I would own both Hype 2 and Cadenza though as I like both, but perhaps not enough to own both. I actually started EQ'ing Cadenza bass closer to Hype 2. The bass is really good on Hype 2, its a keeper just for that. C4 is nice, but not the same as Hype 2 on the low end. I think both tuning teams are top notch and very capable at these hybrid tunings.
Great review!
I wonder how this compares to P8 or Hype4
I wasn't a fan of P8, but it is a bit of what I said, neither one is going to be dramatically different, slightly different flavor. Letshuoer is good at the characteristics I talked about, P8 is a slightly different set that I didn't understand.
Another great review. Currently have S12 pro and Dunu Falcon Ultra so looking for a Hybrid, would this complement the other 2? Like Dire Straits Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac soft rock, Jazz, Classical. Thanks
Actually it would and if you go down that path, remember what I said about a slight EQ bass boost. It hits those rock tracks that need a slight foundation and those male vocals. Hybrids are weird, they are almost between your S12P and the Falcon. Some people are really into 1DD sets, especially nice ones, I like planars typically more than 1DD. What do they have in common, easier to tine 1 driver vs 4 and that is why there is a $200usd curse. Its hard to pull it off at that price point.
Thanks on its way, will bump the bass :)
Would you say this would be an upgrade over the Moondrop Katos? If so, is it a "worth it" upgrade, or not quite enough of a step up, and what would you recommend instead? I listen to literally all genres, but acoustics, ballads, and songs focused on vocals and pianos are in the rotation most frequently. Had the Katos since release in 2021 and like them, but I definitely feel like im miss something on a lot of tracks and would like to step up.
*Edit*
Just read through some of the comments and your replies. After seeing you explain the potential issues with the $200 range and how it may be better to save up for the $400+ market, I may do that. Would still love a recommendation based on my initial comment tho 😁
Yeah, the $200ish range is really tough on your "worth it" point. Simgot SM4 is an outlier, better than the price, but you need to reconcile listening to a slightly brighter set. That is where Cadenza4 did well. Is it boring, sure but there are lovely mids happening. I don't need the treble hype sound all the time. Beyond that, you have Hype 4, EM10, DaVinci, Aful explorer all just being released so sit back and wait a bit. Hybrids are tough, good idea on paper, hard to execute well.
Hello from Japan.
I got the Cadenza4 today and I really like it, but I'm interested in increasing the bass a bit with the EQ.
Do you have any recommended settings? If so, please let me know.
There isn't one general EQ solution but if you can PEQ, you can add a low shelf that increases midbass and subbass:
Filter 1: ON LSC Fc 400 Hz Gain 2.0 dB Q 1.000
I tend to use Graphic EQ and you would do something similar, move the sliders that you have at 400 and below up 1or 2db. Then turn the EQ on and off and listen for changes in the low end. Not enough, try 3db. That is literally how I do it, small changes, and turn on/off alot to see which is better, on or off.
Thank you very much, I added bass using PEQ in the way you showed me and it is better.😍
Fiercely competitive price bracket. It's tough to stand out. I know you like Zenns Top in the $500 range. What are your recs at 1k? Monarch MKIII? Like your analytical approach in these videos. Well done.
Never heard Monarch, but I like most Thieaudio. Their tuning and driver choices are usually solid. I'd probably pick up a used UM set in that price range rather than buy a $1k set. Something about their style is different from everything else and if I am paying that much, it needs to be different than what I can get at lower price points.
Oh shoot. Looking like this really is right along my alley. Favorite sets that I own are the Sonus, P1 Max, and Hexa. This seems like a good step up from those, correct?
Would love for you to get the new Ziigaats in, the Doscinco and Cincotres. Would be an interesting comparison between those and the Cadenza 4. Might as well throw in the Hype2 and Tea2 in there. 😅
Another thing I'd like to ask is how this compares to the next step up, like the Hisenior Mega5-EST, Xenns Top, and even the Hype4? I was initially set on just saving up and going straight for the Mega5-EST, but the Cadenza 4 is making me consider taking that intermediate step in the ~$300 range.
That is the issue with the $200usd level, you get a step up from Sonus and maybe Hexa, but still a gap to the big boys like Top or Hype 4, probably Mega5. There is always going to be a limitation on a 1+3 and Letshuoer clearly wanted to use nice drivers, but it rarely works out that
@@PaulWasabii thanks for this Paul. But yeahp, I'm just asking questions hoping for a different answer at this point. 😂 But really looking like going straight to the $500-600 range might be the wiser choice. We'll see how the rest of the year goes for IEMs. Still hoping for a miracle in the $300 range!
Hi Paul. I would appreciate your advice. I’m looking for a good neutral set for orchestral music, classical, jazz and electronic (a-la Bonobo). I’m pretty low in budget and I’m looking for Cadenza 4 (like it due to the price), Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite and Blessing 3. I know that Blessing 3 is a little bit more expensive but I’m willing to pay if it worth it. It would be my first iem headset. Previously borrowed moondrop LAN from a friend of mine and I pretty like it.
I would appreciate your advice.
Thank you and have a great day 🙏
If I was low on budget, I'd get the Lan. It is surprisingly good for the price. The hardest part of this hobby is finding something you like and you found one. To be brutally honest, get the Lan now and then at the end of the year when there are the biggest sale periods, re-visit the options. Even LetShuoer tends to put their sets on sale a few times a year. Orchestra Lite is another one I would watch, see if it goes on sale. Its all BA and slightly more risky purchase than Lan.
@@PaulWasabii thank you for your answer, Paul and for your advice.
I don’t know why, but the prices in my country vary from Amazon or others.
Probably it’s a sale season or I don’t know why. It’s the official seller.
Moondrop blessing 3: $266.6
- KiwiEars orchestra lite $244.4
- Letshuoer Cadenza 4: $166.5
- Letshuoer S12 Pro: $86.2
- LAN: $30
So I thought that today might be the time to get a good set of iem.
I will definitely order LAN, thank you )
Your graphs in squig link actually seems closer (this vs cklvx). Only real difference seems to be in the upper treble. Haven't heard any but the cklvx's graph seems close to aful p5 and i didn't finda that one too impressive. (espcially considering price) I like a bit better bass (more controlled, less bloated, and a bit less in general) and better tech (separation, soundstage, detail retrieval). I also listen to a lot of different genres so i like eclectic sets. Would you say this suits my bill?
Yes, as I said, my nitpick is that dip in midbass or both if you like more. That Bery coated DD is nice and tuned down compared to other warmer sets trying to hide something. As I said, they stacked the deck with that DD, a Sonion, and a couple Knowles. You have already experienced the $200usd curse so I would hesitate as you might be looking for something more capable and more money. As I said, this price point is really hard as there is always going to be a limitation vs sets that are slightly more expensive.
@@PaulWasabii yes, up until 100 it seems easier to find more complete sets. They won't beat 200 sets at specific things buy as a whole they seem less flawed.
I might buy it for the cable alone since it looks flat on the pins with only a small plastic stopper between the connection and iem itself and I've been looking one like that
Sometimes Letshuoer sells their cables separately, sometimes not. Its actually very nice as I am a right angle modular fan and they did a 2 core which isn't as common. TBH, most of their cables are nice.
@@PaulWasabiiI've only recently seen how cool their cables are lol, been looking for a flat pin for my Mext
Looks like the little brother to the Studio4, so a fantastic natural set. Too bad I outgrew this price bracket. :(
Yeah, the tuning is similar to lots of sets that tried to hit the same balance, not go too warm, reveal the mids. I think $200usd is a short term point for most people, its a hint at what you can get, but not quite there.
Paul which iem is the most complete in your opinion you under 1000 $ right now ?
I hate to ride the hype, but Dusk is probably all that most people need. There hasn't been a set that could reach out and take a shot at Variations or other tribrids for a lower cost and Dusk is about as close as I have heard. I also EQ it as his target isn't necessarily how I would do it, but that set is basically designed for EQ with the DSP cable.
@@PaulWasabii Yes but it doesn't bother you that you are "getting married" the cable?As I know you add distorsion if you EQ a headphone without DSP ..or am I wrong ? Or it is so little the distortion) without DSP cable that someone could consider that by buying it it's " worth" to have this little " trade off" ?
There is the Kiwi Cadenza already. Why they want to use the same name?
To be fair there are arguably no better names for iems than those taken from music terminology, so no surprise there is more than 1 cadenza out there
Didn't the Cadenza 12 appear before Cadenza? So 4 is like the middle guy
I was thinking that too. I am not a huge proponent of the name if it is not related somehow. Maybe it is, we'll see when the marketing blitz gets underway.
wanna talk about the "Zero"? :))
It sounds intriguing but unfortunately I'm not in a position to try it out for myself. Plus I really should get a lot more listening experience in before I spend any more money on audio.
Yes, these are sets that cost quite a bit of money and you need to have some sense of what you are looking for before dropping that much money. No doubt as sets start landing in people's homes, you will hear the sounds just like my cheaper set. I tried to pre-empt it, but we'll see. $200usd is a lot of money and people have high expectations.
This vs Hype 2?
That was a challenging one. As I said, Cadenza left the bass slightly leaner than Hype 2 but Cadenza's driver is good so it EQs well. I'd probably Cadenza 4 now and jump to Hype 4 later which seems like a decent upgrade so far.
@@PaulWasabii then I will settle on HYPE 4 directly. Thank brother
Compared to Blessing 2 or Blessing 3?
I haven't heard either one, but I think the generality stands. B3 is still a bit bass lighter and treble brighter. The balance shifted up range where Cadenza tries to hit the middle. Dusk 2 might be closer
Looks boring. You saved me money. Thanks.
I think that will be the major complaint and others will see it differently. I think it will play out like EJ07M, it will get talked about and then sets will start to hit people who like that style of tuning. Going to take a bit of time
And it's oversized. 😢
Say less, I'm sold!