Right? I galloped racehorses at track for 9 years and have rehabbed a lot of OTTB and OTQH. All those pull both reins back same time snaffle people need to go gallop a race horse one time to make believers out of them that it doesn't work 😂
Had honestly never really given it much thought, but boy that makes a lot of sense. I was taught the pull back and jiggle style, but just never quite felt right to me. Love it, thank you!
@@tracyjohnson5023 I don't handle the patreon thing but I think it is like 5 bucks a month and I know you can join the highest level binge watch for a month and drop it. That isn't good capitalism on my part but im a monarchist anyway.
Do you rope of horses when there in snaffle or hackamore? Hard to work reins independently when holding them in one hand with while managing a hand full of coils.?
Hey Brett, loved the video and it was good to watch this along with your other hackamore and bosal tips. Had a quick question about timing up with the feet for this exercise in the bosal. When you’re working here, are you focused on bumping + releasing in time with each individual foot coming off the ground, or are you bumping + releasing to create the signal of rotation in his nose band, then releasing when you feel his movement get correct? Thanks for keeping up with these videos. Sorry if you’d previously answered in another video I missed.
Ive ridden and hungout with some guys that are straight up hands...With that being said, theyll tell you that the hackamore is all bluff. If you pull on both reins and a horse figures out that he can pull back or brace against you, its over. Skip the hackamore and better luck with a snaffle, try not to pull back and let him win there as well. If it keeps happening, just make a barrel horse out of it and move on.
yeah a lot of guys skip the hackamore and the handle on there horse shows it. Iv been around a couple handy guys myself and they say its only a bluff if you quit pulling.
Great info! Bret I’m looking for a solid heading horse…… ! Do u have any connections we could talk about? Or Have with you in Victoria? We’ve got a couple now, but not working out We need guidance We’re working with a fella in Graford Tx up by Dallas presently, but thought we’d check with you as well . How’s your program working out down there? Any older horses for sale? Am I barking up the wrong tree thinking you could help us in contact with some you trust to head us in right direction? I don’t know the bloodlines we should stead clear of as roper possibilities. Don’t want the maintenance of training a 3/4 yr old……or time it takes to do properly Sooo Maybe you could advise us of bloodlines to atleast not buy? Do u still own Paint? Please let us know if you’re with offer us some advice. Hope alls going well for yall. Didn’t know how else to connect you….. Thanks a ton 🌟
yeah im not a big fan, I bump one side then the other just like im doing here. If you have to put the head down manually with the bit then you have a lot of other issues like balance and strength that need addressed. My horses lower the head off my leg not my hand.
Which part? The backing out the gate part? He is learning to back up better and faster because he is backing to the barn and because I always back out the gate they don't learn to be gate sour. You can't just teach them something and move on, you have to refine it. The horse learns pretty much everything he needs to know in the first ten rides, the rest of his life is refinement.
little patience and time to let the horse find the give, and His release to the pressure, so he can understand what you are asking him to do, a horse will seek the release of pressure and comfort quickly. where is his release to the pressure of the bit , rewarding him?. you are not consistent , jerking , repeatedly, with no dwell time for doing the right thing... like this he can never win, no cosistency is confusing to a horse. I hope for the Horses' sake , people don't take your training methods too seriously
Have you ever actually used a hackamore? From your comment I can tell that if you have actually ever seen one then you have certainly not used one very much. A hackamore only works with a bump, a sustained pull and waiting for the horse to give will ruin the horse in the hackamore. The horse needs about a half a second of dwell time as a reward to learn, this is proven I don't care what your Grandpa or the trainer down the road said. I can promise you without a doubt that I am far more consistent than any one you have ever ridden with, one of the perks of the autistic spectrum is that I do things the same way every time without trying. I appreciate your comment but I am afraid that you are simply not sophisticated enough in your riding and training to understand what is going on here.
I am done with my "pulling back on a snaffle" argument. But, I will say that you are very brave for addressing it. Very few trainers will .
Thank you
Right? I galloped racehorses at track for 9 years and have rehabbed a lot of OTTB and OTQH.
All those pull both reins back same time snaffle people need to go gallop a race horse one time to make believers out of them that it doesn't work 😂
@@tracyjohnson5023 true dat. I rode a lot of TB's on the track and loved it. Quarter mile horses always scared me a little
Thanks for the videos
You bet, glad to do it.
Brett thanks for speaking of the offset hands. That is really helpfull to know how that can help in not pulling on both reins at the same time.
glad you dug it.
Had honestly never really given it much thought, but boy that makes a lot of sense. I was taught the pull back and jiggle style, but just never quite felt right to me. Love it, thank you!
cool, glad you like it
Always look forward to these videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. And for still putting up some things on UA-cam. Y’all enjoy your day!
you bet
Same. Hopefully I'll be able to afford the Patreon subscription one day soon.
@@tracyjohnson5023 I don't handle the patreon thing but I think it is like 5 bucks a month and I know you can join the highest level binge watch for a month and drop it. That isn't good capitalism on my part but im a monarchist anyway.
Do you rope of horses when there in snaffle or hackamore? Hard to work reins independently when holding them in one hand with while managing a hand full of coils.?
Excellent video thanks for the vdeo and time 👍
Thank you
Hey Brett, loved the video and it was good to watch this along with your other hackamore and bosal tips. Had a quick question about timing up with the feet for this exercise in the bosal. When you’re working here, are you focused on bumping + releasing in time with each individual foot coming off the ground, or are you bumping + releasing to create the signal of rotation in his nose band, then releasing when you feel his movement get correct?
Thanks for keeping up with these videos. Sorry if you’d previously answered in another video I missed.
Im bumping to rotate the nose button and realeasing when the horse moves correctly.
More great tips
Beautiful grass..
So much grass here.
Ive ridden and hungout with some guys that are straight up hands...With that being said, theyll tell you that the hackamore is all bluff. If you pull on both reins and a horse figures out that he can pull back or brace against you, its over. Skip the hackamore and better luck with a snaffle, try not to pull back and let him win there as well. If it keeps happening, just make a barrel horse out of it and move on.
yeah a lot of guys skip the hackamore and the handle on there horse shows it. Iv been around a couple handy guys myself and they say its only a bluff if you quit pulling.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt I'd like to take a colt through the hackamore sometime. For that matter, I'd like a spade bit horse someday as well lol
@@jebediahnightlinger6357 all it takes is time
Great info!
Bret
I’m looking for a solid heading horse…… ! Do u have any connections we could talk about?
Or
Have with you in Victoria?
We’ve got a couple now, but not working out
We need guidance
We’re working with a fella in Graford Tx up by Dallas presently, but thought we’d check with you as well
.
How’s your program working out down there?
Any older horses for sale?
Am I barking up the wrong tree thinking you could help us in contact with some you trust to head us in right direction?
I don’t know the bloodlines we should stead clear of as roper possibilities. Don’t want the maintenance of training a 3/4 yr old……or time it takes to do properly
Sooo
Maybe you could advise us of bloodlines to atleast not buy?
Do u still own Paint?
Please let us know if you’re with offer us some advice.
Hope alls going well for yall.
Didn’t know how else to connect you…..
Thanks a ton
🌟
email me Davistraining83@gmail.com I know of several solid head horses for fair price.
What is your opinion of "sawing" the reins to get the horse to put his head down? What would you do instead?
yeah im not a big fan, I bump one side then the other just like im doing here. If you have to put the head down manually with the bit then you have a lot of other issues like balance and strength that need addressed. My horses lower the head off my leg not my hand.
What is this horse learning?
This is not cruel, the horse in not upset in anyway but I don't know what you are teaching him.
Which part? The backing out the gate part? He is learning to back up better and faster because he is backing to the barn and because I always back out the gate they don't learn to be gate sour. You can't just teach them something and move on, you have to refine it. The horse learns pretty much everything he needs to know in the first ten rides, the rest of his life is refinement.
little patience and time to let the horse find the give, and His release to the pressure, so he can understand what you are asking him to do, a horse will seek the release of pressure and comfort quickly. where is his release to the pressure of the bit , rewarding him?. you are not consistent , jerking , repeatedly, with no dwell time for doing the right thing... like this he can never win, no cosistency is confusing to a horse. I hope for the Horses' sake , people don't take your training methods too seriously
Have you ever actually used a hackamore? From your comment I can tell that if you have actually ever seen one then you have certainly not used one very much. A hackamore only works with a bump, a sustained pull and waiting for the horse to give will ruin the horse in the hackamore. The horse needs about a half a second of dwell time as a reward to learn, this is proven I don't care what your Grandpa or the trainer down the road said. I can promise you without a doubt that I am far more consistent than any one you have ever ridden with, one of the perks of the autistic spectrum is that I do things the same way every time without trying. I appreciate your comment but I am afraid that you are simply not sophisticated enough in your riding and training to understand what is going on here.
Poor horse, tired and you keep yanking his head.
That's not even close to yanking... You clearly haven't rode as many horses in your life as this guy does in a day.
I wasn't exactly yanking, I was teaching. Try again.
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArtyou tell that 40 year old mom🫡
@@AidenMagnusson People can be silly