I have a logistical question that I have never seen anyone address. Perhaps someone here can answer it: Let's use one example of a recently-built high-rise: One World Trade Center, which is 417m tall, and 61m wide on each side, ergo, has a base that is 3,721 sq. m. To build this it used 710 cubic meters of concrete, *just to bring the foundation up to ground level.* Each cubic meter of concrete used 200 L of water, so 142,000 L of freshwater was needed for that foundation. *The foundation.* Not anything above that. (In all, One WTC used 115,000 cu. m. of concrete.) "The Line" is supposed to be 200m wide and 170km long, ergo 34 million sq. m of footprint. That's 9,137 times as large of a footprint as One WTC. Let's assume that The Line will require the same amount of concrete for its foundations as One WTC (although it probably will require far more). That means it would need 9,137 times as much water, or 1,297,454,000 L of water just for its foundation. The average tanker truck carries about 27,000 L of water. That's 48,000 tanker trucks full of freshwater. And that is assuming that it will ONLY need concrete for the foundation, and not for any of the above-ground parts of the structure. *Where are they going to get that much fresh water?!* Saudi Arabia is on a desert island with only trivial amounts of rainfall. There is no way to desalinize seawater at the required scale. So where is SA going to get 48,000 tankers full of freshwater?
When I first heard of this project I left comments saying it was a stupid concept and probably would never be finished. I'd like to reaffirm -- NEOM is a stupid idea and probably will never be finished.
so... has anyone done the maths on Neom? Costing even $2tn that would allow only $116 per cubic metre. That doesn't include the airport, desalination plant, piling, a power plant, R&D. I can't have a shed built for that!
And Given the entire national GDP of Saudi Arabia is $1 Trillion, for the entire population of 36.95 million ($27,000 GDP per capita)...a city that hopes to house 9 million costing twice their national GDP, it would take them 8 years to pay off the cost alone, should they rob 100% of the GDP from everyone living in that hellhole. Sounds totally feasible. lol... In reality, if they maintained current tax rates, and put 100% to it, it wouldn't even break even in 30 years...and that would be funding none of their upopian fantasies like transportation, healthcare, and water and sanitation.... The level of stupid to think this could work is beyond staggering.
And the mirror glass facade will be sandblasted during the next sandstorm. In the worst case scenario, 170,000 m x 500 m = 85,000,000 m2 x 2 sides = 170,000,000 m2 (approx. 23,809 football pitches) will have to be replaced. Does anyone know the glass manufacturer? Is it a stock corporation?
I can picture the scene. an architect shows the plan of neom to his colleagues and says: I'm gonna show this to the king, he's gonna go for it. the collegues say: come on, he can't be THAT stupid. The architect smiles.
This is what happens when a boy-dictator who took over before the age of 30, surrounds himself with yes-men, and kills anyone that dares tell him how insanely stupid this is.
@@Ironic_Shark Thanks for your comment. We understand your skepticism about the trains, and it's valid to have concerns about such a massive and ambitious project. As we mentioned in the video, the rail line could indeed be a significant challenge for NEOM. While the high-speed rail system is a crucial component of connecting key regions like THE LINE and Oxagon, its execution will be complex, involving advanced technologies and significant infrastructure development. The project is currently backed by major contracts, including a €1.4 billion deal led by Webuild and SAJCO, which covers 57 kilometers of the rail line. Despite this, the scale and ambition of the NEOM project present numerous difficulties, and the success of the rail system will depend on overcoming these challenges. We've done thorough research to highlight all potential hurdles, and while the rail infrastructure is a cornerstone of NEOM's vision, its implementation is far from guaranteed to be smooth
@stokbrood Thanks for your comment! What part of the script felt AI-generated to you? Our script is actually crafted by an experienced writer, and our team puts in a lot of effort to research and ensure everything is accurate.
This whole thing is AI. I'd be surprised if a human did the video editing. Maybe you should make sure your writer isn't experienced enough to use chatGPT
If neom is planned to depend completely on hi technology whatIf technology disfunctions or even get jammed? I'd love to see the disaster-management plan on high level (what could go wrong?)
This city sounds like something out of a dystopian Movie, a little bit like total recall. Has anyone given a thought to what would happen if a uncontrolable fire broke out? Would that pose the risk that the entire city would burn down, with people probably trapped in it? Damn thousands would die if not more.
Prince Ali Bim Bam Salami is just a puppet. All over the world and by all regimes worldwide this dystopian nonsense is being planned. The goal of the global degenerate hostage takers is to lock people in cities that function like prisons. Prince Ali Bin Salami is just trying to pass off the agenda of the idiots as his idea so that the agenda in the background is not revealed.
Linear can work. It works in the Netherlands, but it's far from optimal. People travel North to South and vice-versa on congested motor ways. The trains are overcrowded during rush hour. The only reason it's done this way is because it follows the coast, and connects three hubs (Amsterdam, The Hague and Rotterdam). Several other smaller cities are located in-between those, full of forensic travellers. It's practically one lone line of residential areas and cities. I don't understand why they'd repeat that system, because that line connects nothing with nothing in the middle of the desert.
@@joeb5080 The scale is more or less the same, with many millions living along a single motorway/railway system that's a line. Everything's congested during most of the day. Though granted, the Saudi project might be even worse, because there's only a single rail line, totally inadequate.
On the plus....it'll be much easier for them to back fill in that trench to hide all the bodies once the experiment fails. Dystopian governments do love their mass graves...
The video keeps talking about NEOM but focuses largely on The Line. The Line is only one part of the concept, and the others are less fantastical. The construction of an industrial port city like Oxagon is within the realms of possibility, and could have a positive impact on the region. Some ideas are futuristic, and not possible now, but the city could be retrofitted at some time in the future. Similarly, Trojena is buildable, but raises questions about the environment, and also whether the world actually needs another playground for the super-rich, especially as Sindalah is nearing completion. Leyja, another playground for the super-rich, is also perfectly possible to be built, but one has to question how many people would actually want to visit Saudi Arabia considering the type of country it is. Fourteen tourist destinations are planned in total, which is rather a lot for a country that, until recently, was not exactly tourist friendly. As we now know, The Link has been scaled back a little (5km to be completed by 2030, that is 2.9% of the original design), though they still plan to complete it all by 2043. I suspect that the 5km structure will prove to be so unlivable that no more will be built. Parts of NEOM will be completed, but it will be a scaled back version. Economics, a lack of technology to fulfill the vision, and a history of failed projects in the region (Jeddah Tower reduced from one mile high, to one kilometre, and that not completed, The World Islands currently sinking into the sea, and the unfinshed Palm Jebel Ali, amongst many others), do not bode well for NEOM. It is imaginative, futuristic, and interesting, but is it workable? Apart from The Line, I hope so. As for The Line, well I'm thinking 1984! A dystopian project that would hellish to live in.
We should all support Neom. If oil has been and continues to be a wealth transfer from the West to Saudi Arabia, Neom is and will be a wealth transfer from Saudi Arabia back to the West. Sure, the end result will be absolutely useless. But 99% of the development money will flow west.
------------------------------------------------------------ Total Cost (speculative) : $1.5 trillion Total Area: 34 km² (34,000,000 m²) Planned Population: 9 million residents ------------------------------------------------------------ Cost per Square Meter ≈ $44 118 per m² Cost per Resident ≈ $166 667 per resident ------------------------------------------------------------ If the costs hold, this would represent the most expensive cost per m² and per capita ever recorded for an urban project, reflecting its inefficiency and extravagance.
The Line is a wonderful bit of science fiction- but in real life it's a stupid waste of time and money. Will never work, dumb idea (172 km penis for the prince) DUMB IDEA
This is your oil money in action!! These people are burning a significant portion of the worlds money on vanity projects with no practical contribution to the world.
If i were going to build a house , i would not build it on sand, seems a bit trusting seeing how sand easily shifts especially when water hits it, or wind moves it, doesn't seem like the best idea to me.
Do you know why it needs to be a Line? So that they can have train tracks. Apparently trains dont make turns. Prince lays down the train tracks in mind and builds city around it.
so many BOT comments...😮💨😒i hope they make it, cuz if someone planned the thing, they probably have many things planned how whats will be, but looking from video how it will look,i too have many questions.. like kids falling in the middle pit?😅and shops and many comercial buildings supplying its supply only from the spine is questionable,but not impossible, many obsticles needs to be challenged and completed,hope they will make it😊the main thing i like about it is no cars... so eliminating co2 and noise polution is great and attractive, but the question is how loud the spine will be? 🤔end thought: maybe first make a game look alike, like GTA... just to walk around and live in the game for a bit just to experiance wether its even worth doing it.
Wouldn't it be more practical to start with Low Scaled Demo City first? Give it a try for 5-10 years, so the bugs can be worked out, and if NEW TOOLS need to be RE-IMAGINED For this project they can make on the spot, then teach the chui
Wonder what Michio Kaku really think of Neom? As a professional engineer, I think it is rubbish. But, if I am being paid good money, I will sing whatever, the paymaster says.
Looking like the Tennessee Valley Waterways Authorities global construction integration hydroponics farms systems that goes down the global integration Tennessee Valley Waterways Authorities global hydroponics buildings to produce a global integration construction farms to provide clean water and clean water food with the global desalination process to pull the chemicals from the water
If you do the math, and making reasonable assumptions, you get a TOTAL cost of less than 40 dollars per square foot. This is less than 1/10 of a "reasonable" cost.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! We've just provided a POV on ''Reasons NEOM Might Face Challenges' based on the latest updates and possibilities. Open to different perspectives!
I can see this video was done with sceptical and all negative conotations....like "this was never been done" "technique is not available" "such designs do not exsist" and so on... it remind me like Tesla vs Edison war... it was left out many things what are positive and what can Saudi Arabia put on throne like energy exporter not just oil
You never no, it may happen, just not the way that it was intended, they’ll just have to reorganize some of the things that are on the larger scale and reduce it to keep the momentum going, I just love the idea of it, I’m staying positive, I hope and wish it continues, God bless all who read this. ☪️🇸🇦☮️🙏✝️🇨🇦
please investigate the similarities of the bible, and islam teachings, & mainstream christianity. Then look into the bible authenticity, and Jesus tongue according to historians. this will lead you to the truth, Islam is the truth, from Adam to Mohammad. All other religions are either fully or partially man made.
Even if they managed to build 10% of this atrocity, who the heck would want to live there?
300000+ full time residents? No pets, pest or insects? Sewer 🚽 ? Water? Light? Sunlight? ☀️
Those who wants to be safer at the climate change post 2034. Three thousand six hundred and fifty days ahead .. day by day.
I have a logistical question that I have never seen anyone address. Perhaps someone here can answer it:
Let's use one example of a recently-built high-rise: One World Trade Center, which is 417m tall, and 61m wide on each side, ergo, has a base that is 3,721 sq. m. To build this it used 710 cubic meters of concrete, *just to bring the foundation up to ground level.* Each cubic meter of concrete used 200 L of water, so 142,000 L of freshwater was needed for that foundation. *The foundation.* Not anything above that. (In all, One WTC used 115,000 cu. m. of concrete.)
"The Line" is supposed to be 200m wide and 170km long, ergo 34 million sq. m of footprint. That's 9,137 times as large of a footprint as One WTC.
Let's assume that The Line will require the same amount of concrete for its foundations as One WTC (although it probably will require far more). That means it would need 9,137 times as much water, or 1,297,454,000 L of water just for its foundation.
The average tanker truck carries about 27,000 L of water. That's 48,000 tanker trucks full of freshwater. And that is assuming that it will ONLY need concrete for the foundation, and not for any of the above-ground parts of the structure.
*Where are they going to get that much fresh water?!* Saudi Arabia is on a desert island with only trivial amounts of rainfall. There is no way to desalinize seawater at the required scale.
So where is SA going to get 48,000 tankers full of freshwater?
More money than brains😮😅
When I first heard of this project I left comments saying it was a stupid concept and probably would never be finished. I'd like to reaffirm -- NEOM is a stupid idea and probably will never be finished.
so... has anyone done the maths on Neom? Costing even $2tn that would allow only $116 per cubic metre.
That doesn't include the airport, desalination plant, piling, a power plant, R&D.
I can't have a shed built for that!
And Given the entire national GDP of Saudi Arabia is $1 Trillion, for the entire population of 36.95 million ($27,000 GDP per capita)...a city that hopes to house 9 million costing twice their national GDP, it would take them 8 years to pay off the cost alone, should they rob 100% of the GDP from everyone living in that hellhole. Sounds totally feasible. lol...
In reality, if they maintained current tax rates, and put 100% to it, it wouldn't even break even in 30 years...and that would be funding none of their upopian fantasies like transportation, healthcare, and water and sanitation....
The level of stupid to think this could work is beyond staggering.
If that same money is spent to make a small part of SA green, then the country would benefit immensely in the future.
Its incredible the waste of money and ressources this project will bring
And the mirror glass facade will be sandblasted during the next sandstorm. In the worst case scenario, 170,000 m x 500 m = 85,000,000 m2 x 2 sides = 170,000,000 m2 (approx. 23,809 football pitches) will have to be replaced. Does anyone know the glass manufacturer? Is it a stock corporation?
Must be gorilla glass 😆
I can picture the scene. an architect shows the plan of neom to his colleagues and says: I'm gonna show this to the king, he's gonna go for it. the collegues say: come on, he can't be THAT stupid. The architect smiles.
what a facist dream, not enogh that people walk in line, but they have to live in one.
“facist” plus what does that have to do with the line lol
@@Damoney1111
The comment is only one sentence. By the end of that single sentence your question is answered. Just read a little farther.
This is what happens when a boy-dictator who took over before the age of 30, surrounds himself with yes-men, and kills anyone that dares tell him how insanely stupid this is.
Be honest here, did you create your script with AI?
As soon as it started going on about the trains i was like ya no this script is sketchy
@@Ironic_Shark Thanks for your comment. We understand your skepticism about the trains, and it's valid to have concerns about such a massive and ambitious project. As we mentioned in the video, the rail line could indeed be a significant challenge for NEOM. While the high-speed rail system is a crucial component of connecting key regions like THE LINE and Oxagon, its execution will be complex, involving advanced technologies and significant infrastructure development.
The project is currently backed by major contracts, including a €1.4 billion deal led by Webuild and SAJCO, which covers 57 kilometers of the rail line. Despite this, the scale and ambition of the NEOM project present numerous difficulties, and the success of the rail system will depend on overcoming these challenges.
We've done thorough research to highlight all potential hurdles, and while the rail infrastructure is a cornerstone of NEOM's vision, its implementation is far from guaranteed to be smooth
@stokbrood
Thanks for your comment! What part of the script felt AI-generated to you? Our script is actually crafted by an experienced writer, and our team puts in a lot of effort to research and ensure everything is accurate.
@@MegaConstructionsYTthat response is giving Ai
This whole thing is AI. I'd be surprised if a human did the video editing. Maybe you should make sure your writer isn't experienced enough to use chatGPT
If neom is planned to depend completely on hi technology whatIf technology disfunctions or even get jammed?
I'd love to see the disaster-management plan on high level (what could go wrong?)
This city sounds like something out of a dystopian Movie, a little bit like total recall. Has anyone given a thought to what would happen if a uncontrolable fire broke out? Would that pose the risk that the entire city would burn down, with people probably trapped in it? Damn thousands would die if not more.
I don't think the real risk is safety. That is side effect of inevitable Arab carelessness. The real problem is this a thinly disguised prison.
Prince Ali Bim Bam Salami is just a puppet. All over the world and by all regimes worldwide this dystopian nonsense is being planned. The goal of the global degenerate hostage takers is to lock people in cities that function like prisons. Prince Ali Bin Salami is just trying to pass off the agenda of the idiots as his idea so that the agenda in the background is not revealed.
Linear can work. It works in the Netherlands, but it's far from optimal. People travel North to South and vice-versa on congested motor ways. The trains are overcrowded during rush hour. The only reason it's done this way is because it follows the coast, and connects three hubs (Amsterdam, The Hague and Rotterdam). Several other smaller cities are located in-between those, full of forensic travellers. It's practically one lone line of residential areas and cities.
I don't understand why they'd repeat that system, because that line connects nothing with nothing in the middle of the desert.
Linear cities do not work. What you're talking about is a region, where traditional cities are located in a corridor.
@@joeb5080 The scale is more or less the same, with many millions living along a single motorway/railway system that's a line. Everything's congested during most of the day. Though granted, the Saudi project might be even worse, because there's only a single rail line, totally inadequate.
Neom is the first part of a multi-century project to build The Caves of Steel.
They used Plato's Cave as a blueprint to design their "utopian" future..
Dig a trench in the sand. Build a city inside it. What could go wrong?
😂
On the plus....it'll be much easier for them to back fill in that trench to hide all the bodies once the experiment fails.
Dystopian governments do love their mass graves...
That’s actually a part of Neom
Neom needs to be the medical capital of the world
The money that is foolishly being spent on this ridiculous project could end poverty.
It will never be, i am here and witnessing what is going on.
What will never be bro??
The video keeps talking about NEOM but focuses largely on The Line. The Line is only one part of the concept, and the others are less fantastical.
The construction of an industrial port city like Oxagon is within the realms of possibility, and could have a positive impact on the region. Some ideas are futuristic, and not possible now, but the city could be retrofitted at some time in the future.
Similarly, Trojena is buildable, but raises questions about the environment, and also whether the world actually needs another playground for the super-rich, especially as Sindalah is nearing completion. Leyja, another playground for the super-rich, is also perfectly possible to be built, but one has to question how many people would actually want to visit Saudi Arabia considering the type of country it is. Fourteen tourist destinations are planned in total, which is rather a lot for a country that, until recently, was not exactly tourist friendly.
As we now know, The Link has been scaled back a little (5km to be completed by 2030, that is 2.9% of the original design), though they still plan to complete it all by 2043. I suspect that the 5km structure will prove to be so unlivable that no more will be built.
Parts of NEOM will be completed, but it will be a scaled back version. Economics, a lack of technology to fulfill the vision, and a history of failed projects in the region (Jeddah Tower reduced from one mile high, to one kilometre, and that not completed, The World Islands currently sinking into the sea, and the unfinshed Palm Jebel Ali, amongst many others), do not bode well for NEOM. It is imaginative, futuristic, and interesting, but is it workable? Apart from The Line, I hope so. As for The Line, well I'm thinking 1984! A dystopian project that would hellish to live in.
We should all support Neom. If oil has been and continues to be a wealth transfer from the West to Saudi Arabia, Neom is and will be a wealth transfer from Saudi Arabia back to the West. Sure, the end result will be absolutely useless. But 99% of the development money will flow west.
The whole idea doesn’t make sense.
Quick, somebosy sell the moon to MBS. He needs the green cheese.
Why are you a year behind the news?
NEOM is only going to be 4km long, and it will be an absolute disaster, even at that length.
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Total Cost (speculative) : $1.5 trillion
Total Area: 34 km² (34,000,000 m²)
Planned Population: 9 million residents
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Cost per Square Meter ≈ $44 118 per m²
Cost per Resident ≈ $166 667 per resident
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If the costs hold, this would represent the most expensive cost per m² and per capita ever recorded for an urban project, reflecting its inefficiency and extravagance.
If they decide to go ahead and build it, it won’t be completed in my lifetime and I’m 52….
Ego and pride created this which won't be created anytime in the next decades...
Just one reason... Money
how people will live in vertical . how?
They will all evolve into humans with massive legs due to all the stairs they will spend the rest of their lives walking up and down.
The Line is a wonderful bit of science fiction- but in real life it's a stupid waste of time and money. Will never work, dumb idea (172 km penis for the prince) DUMB IDEA
Like Da!
This is your oil money in action!! These people are burning a significant portion of the worlds money on vanity projects with no practical contribution to the world.
Years ago the plans for the Liner City's Lines of the integration of both sides of highways 10
I would think city which is green and lower scale would be more realistic and livable.
Take The Line and place the integration lines down both sides of the global hydroponics farms systems with interlocking walk ways over road ways
If i were going to build a house , i would not build it on sand, seems a bit trusting seeing how sand easily shifts especially when water hits it, or wind moves it, doesn't seem like the best idea to me.
Do you know why it needs to be a Line? So that they can have train tracks. Apparently trains dont make turns.
Prince lays down the train tracks in mind and builds city around it.
so many BOT comments...😮💨😒i hope they make it, cuz if someone planned the thing, they probably have many things planned how whats will be, but looking from video how it will look,i too have many questions.. like kids falling in the middle pit?😅and shops and many comercial buildings supplying its supply only from the spine is questionable,but not impossible, many obsticles needs to be challenged and completed,hope they will make it😊the main thing i like about it is no cars... so eliminating co2 and noise polution is great and attractive, but the question is how loud the spine will be? 🤔end thought: maybe first make a game look alike, like GTA... just to walk around and live in the game for a bit just to experiance wether its even worth doing it.
Wouldn't it be more practical to start with Low Scaled Demo City first? Give it a try for 5-10 years, so the bugs can be worked out, and if NEW TOOLS need to be RE-IMAGINED For this project they can make on the spot, then teach the chui
When overambition and stupidity overshadow and ignore common sense wisdom and reality, this kind of outcome usually happens.
2 trillion usd with that money you can build country like United Kingdom Finland, Denmark or etc and put millions inside.
It's awesome as it sounds the reality of this coming true Isn't likely give it Another 30 years more likely, but now absolutely not.
Absolutely, not
$500 billion more like $5 trillion IF they can actually build what they say is going to be done
Like the obvious: LIGHT! Not enough natural light…or national lmao
Once it is done everyone will say Saudi is great
@@bryensaeed 🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦
@@Hasan-m7w people just jealous the achievement of all GCC countries... For me I love all GCC countries Salam to all brothers sisters!!!
@@bryensaeed and Salaam to you
@@Hasan-m7w Sukran!!! BTW I live in Muscat in Oman, I love here, super nice people and beautiful landscape, great Qubuli and Kabsa:)
@@bryensaeed afwan I live in ksa
Start with a dot or a hyphen, let alone a line
Just ask yourself would u want to live in a fucking line in the Saudi desert?
It will be built for the Wealthiest section on planet and it's more reminding of Movie "Elysium"
There are LIMITS to ALL things. Only the Man upstairs can change the course of nature…😮
Amen!!!
compare this to Elon's city on Mars..
Its interesting for sure but i would not invest in this thinking.
Would be cheaper to build pyramids
Wonder what Michio Kaku really think of Neom? As a professional engineer, I think it is rubbish. But, if I am being paid good money, I will sing whatever, the paymaster says.
Looking like the Tennessee Valley Waterways Authorities global construction integration hydroponics farms systems that goes down the global integration Tennessee Valley Waterways Authorities global hydroponics buildings to produce a global integration construction farms to provide clean water and clean water food with the global desalination process to pull the chemicals from the water
What a waste of money and time
AI created script 😀
What makes me happy is your negative comments won’t stop anything
If you do the math, and making reasonable assumptions, you get a TOTAL cost of less than 40 dollars per square foot. This is less than 1/10 of a "reasonable" cost.
It's too idealistic to be impractical .
just put the fries in the bag bro
Do u actually believe the line will be built? Have u been there?
Bro you are so negative, NEOM is happening!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! We've just provided a POV on ''Reasons NEOM Might Face Challenges' based on the latest updates and possibilities. Open to different perspectives!
Yes , we've seen videos from that dystopian world... Good luck living there...
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I can see this video was done with sceptical and all negative conotations....like "this was never been done" "technique is not available" "such designs do not exsist" and so on... it remind me like Tesla vs Edison war... it was left out many things what are positive and what can Saudi Arabia put on throne like energy exporter not just oil
You never no, it may happen, just not the way that it was intended, they’ll just have to reorganize some of the things that are on the larger scale and reduce it to keep the momentum going, I just love the idea of it, I’m staying positive, I hope and wish it continues, God bless all who read this. ☪️🇸🇦☮️🙏✝️🇨🇦
please investigate the similarities of the bible, and islam teachings, & mainstream christianity. Then look into the bible authenticity, and Jesus tongue according to historians. this will lead you to the truth, Islam is the truth, from Adam to Mohammad. All other religions are either fully or partially man made.
They already working on it and it’s moving forward. 🤦🏻♂️ Waste of video