I started crying when... **Episode 7 Spoiler** Shannon was talking to Yasu (now Beatrice) in the Golden Land. Yasu trying to convince her...basically to end her life...and leave behind the real world for the Golden Land. However, Shannon holds onto reality believing in her unrequited love. When the truth is known about who Beatrice is, I realized Shannon is having a mental breakdown about her horrible life. I relate to her a lot in terms of that existential crisis moment. Why hold onto reality (your life) when it offers nothing? When the lesson is learned (the hard way) to believe in a hopeful future and not throw away your life, that's why Beatrice and Battler were trying hard to stop Ange from going down that dark path. 😞
Didn't Beatrice say that she wrote alternative scenarios on paper when she realized that there are infinite possibilities but not enough time to run them all?
@@usha22_ i don't count the manga's ending, it feels like it goes against the point of the story. i treat it as one of the possible fragments that could have happened. just like how the game itself has two different outcomes with Ange
Ryu said said he doesn't want to "give up" the serie like that on his blog. No other details of any kind, but apparently he doesn't consider it """finished"""
maybe he's waiting for some1 to solve it? idk. i haven't gotten very deep in the umineko rabbit hole (erikangetrice was too much for me) but i'm pretty sure higurashi is closely linked to umineko and it might be necessary to solve it but i don't know shit. there's also all of the references to the number 34 for some reason, seems like it's pretty deep
@ikkedoch Because Lion's gender ambiguity is symbolic of the fact that Yasu is effectively neutered, causing her furniture complex that put the whole series into motion.
@HanakoFujita SPOILERS Beatrice 2 is the baby of Kinzo and Beatrice 1. Kinzo, in his madness after losing Beatrice 1 during childbirth...transferred his affections for her to their daughter. One thing lead to another, and he knocked up his own daughter. He gave the kid to Natsuhi and Krauss, who were trying to conceive one of their own. After that, the kid, Yasu, either gets cliffed or joins the family as Lion Ushiromiya END
Battler may have made up the first half but the rest is complete madness, that would have clearly effected Beatrices 2 personalty, just stick a homunculus in there, human experiments or a undiscovered lab and the rest is quite reasonable.
@HanakoFujita In cases where Yasu gets cliffed, he's retrieved by Genji and fixed up by Nanjo, who wisely keep the info secret. Yes...Kinzo does feel terrible about it. That's why he acts the way he does, he's disgusted with himself. The witch's epitaph was his way to find Yasu and apologize for everything. Let's not forget that SPOILER it's heavily implied Yasu is Shanon, Kanon, and Beatrice 3. So that would mean George, Jessica, and Battler would be into their cousin/aunt/uncle. END
Yasu is devastated when she finds out that she's in love with her family members. Read "Confession of the Golden Witch" from the "Twilight of the Golden Witch" manga. Has the whole story of Yasu there, and how Shannon, Kanon, and Beatrice, along with other characters were born.
Yasu's story is one of complete sadness. In the end though, I choose my ending that she and Battler truly reconciled at the end and their love was restored.
@YamiAura That's why I say that it's one interpretation, it just doesn't havee to be the only one. But as for Yasu/Lion's gender, you don't even have to go so far.It's also merely symbolism. According to the end of ep6,Yasu is a pawn.A pawn have no individuality and no identity, no matter what. I coud go deeper than that since my whole theory is based on this, but my point is,even without the furniture complex or the genital things, Yasu is supposed to be a "thing" by symbolism.(e.g.:it's name)
YamiAura It's clealy said at the end of the ura tea party, when Bernkastel places the piece that will become Beatrice. Also, don't forget that a pawn may be weak, but it can be promoted into a queen (which, in umineko, would mean becoming Beatrice)
@willardhwright Well it's kind inarguable that the furniture complex has to do with an inability to love, and Yasu blames that on the cliff. The obvious interpretation is that Yasu's genitals were mangled, and thus she was probably given gender reassignment surgery to pass as a female. Lion is a 'perfect' version of herself, but Yasu doesn't know what they would have been before the cliff-fall, so Lion is ambiguous.
In the "Requiem of the Golden Witch" manga, Will asks if Krauss and Lion are "father and daughter" which Lion replies, "...Yes, we are. Problem?" In the "Confession of the Golden Witch" from the "Twilight of the Golden Witch" manga, Yasu identifies herself as female, but once she grows into puberty, and her breasts never develop, and her period never comes, she begins to question what she really is, causing her to live as Kanon, to test if she would feel more comfortable living as a boy.
@willardhwright What part of EP6 makes you think Yasu is a pawn? I'd say though, that Yasu isn't a pawn. She's much too important, unique, and significant in the grand scheme of things; even she acknowledges this.
@YamiAura A lot, lot, lot of things. Yasu itself isn't important, and it's name looks pretty much like a pseudonym in japanese mystery stories. Yasu's story is important, not "Yasu" itself. Anyway, I was thinking about a pawn as the pawns in chess, and this absolutely fits. Even though in the end, maybe the other "pawn" would also fit, since no matter who it is,if we believe everything from ep8 (I don't, since it's not the last episode), she isn't sooo important in the "rokkenjima events".
@YamiAura Yes and no. Especially the part about the furniture complex, that's only one interpretation. But you're right, it's gender being neutral is very important for the scenario anyway.
I think in Episode 7 specifically it plays at the very end of Clair's Story if memory serves me right. Spoilers for Episode 8 just in case: don't know if you found this out afterwards but just in case, it also plays after choosing the Magic Ending, when Battler's Gameboard is being detached from the City of Books
the twist is that you were the seacat who cries all along
Bruh
maybe the real umineko all along were the tears we shed along the way
@@adachivineboom Damn, hits too hard
"That's right.... You aren't a witch..... After all, you're the detective"
omg i just fucking got it
umi-neko, sea-cat, the cat box in the sea
jesus fucking christ
holy fucking shit
umi ni nagareru nekobako
Umineko just means seagulls tho xD
@@mikomichael9555 it's a deliberate play on words, ryukishi loves doing this type of shit
Jesus fucking Christ of Nazareth, didn't even notice, thanks mate
Happy birthday Beatrice.
We'll never stop saying your name, so that your memory will never fade into oblivion.
Technically, since it's a catbox, it makes Umineko the longest tale in the world
Natalie Zubkova Don't forget higurashi
Higurashi isn't a cat box and the time loop only lasted for 100 years! The Umineko catbox is infinite, however.
The Endless and Golden Witch Beatrice, truly is Endless.
*tail
@@laurelk1040 and we're looping again everybody!!! Hurrah! For Higurashi!!! XD
Edit. Wtf was i on?
If this isn't playing during the end of the world, I ain't going.
its gonna play when the united states of america blows up creating a catbox
fr
I started crying when...
**Episode 7 Spoiler**
Shannon was talking to Yasu (now Beatrice) in the Golden Land. Yasu trying to convince her...basically to end her life...and leave behind the real world for the Golden Land. However, Shannon holds onto reality believing in her unrequited love. When the truth is known about who Beatrice is, I realized Shannon is having a mental breakdown about her horrible life. I relate to her a lot in terms of that existential crisis moment. Why hold onto reality (your life) when it offers nothing? When the lesson is learned (the hard way) to believe in a hopeful future and not throw away your life, that's why Beatrice and Battler were trying hard to stop Ange from going down that dark path. 😞
Didn't Beatrice say that she wrote alternative scenarios on paper when she realized that there are infinite possibilities but not enough time to run them all?
For it is infinite.
As long as the story of rokkenjima is sealed within the cat box, there are infinite outcomes
@@ApexGale but the catbox got opened in the episode 8 manga right?
@@usha22_ i don't count the manga's ending, it feels like it goes against the point of the story. i treat it as one of the possible fragments that could have happened. just like how the game itself has two different outcomes with Ange
@@usha22_ the manga is just ryukishi dabbing on goats
God that piano lick in the beginning puts shivers down my spine
SAME
I went crazy when I first heard this lmao
Easily my favorite song of the Episode, and maybe possibly my favorite Umineko song yet.
I'm still mesmerized by this sound track. Probably my favorite Umineko ost.
I love seeing recent Umi comments
@@helpmakar7168 same
I suddenly recalled this when I woke up today
One of mine
The track that causes voices and sounds to mysteriously rise in pitch...
This is one of my all time favorite Umineko tracks... It's just so perfect.
"I decided to delegate my fate."
That intro gives me chills everytime
fate was always so cruel to her....
Ryu said said he doesn't want to "give up" the serie like that on his blog. No other details of any kind, but apparently he doesn't consider it """finished"""
The characters are too good to just let them be lost to time. Glad to hear it, new Higurashi might lead into that.
It has one more episode I haven't done,
maybe he's waiting for some1 to solve it? idk. i haven't gotten very deep in the umineko rabbit hole (erikangetrice was too much for me) but i'm pretty sure higurashi is closely linked to umineko and it might be necessary to solve it but i don't know shit. there's also all of the references to the number 34 for some reason, seems like it's pretty deep
@ikkedoch Because Lion's gender ambiguity is symbolic of the fact that Yasu is effectively neutered, causing her furniture complex that put the whole series into motion.
Beautifully Tragic
For some reason this song messes up the mod, to make people's voices weird in the VN. But still cry when it comes up - Mushroom
this track changes lives
от этого оста слёзы рекой просто
I just realized this sounds very similar to the ending song for Ciconia Episode 1.
I didn't even played that vn but goddamn that piano didn't need to go that hard
Read it. It's peak fiction.
Umineko is definitely the most challenging game I've ever played, and it's a kinetic VN.
Deserves so many more views
the tracks from requiem and dawn are so good
episode 7 is peak umineko
Remains the best
@HanakoFujita SPOILERS Beatrice 2 is the baby of Kinzo and Beatrice 1. Kinzo, in his madness after losing Beatrice 1 during childbirth...transferred his affections for her to their daughter. One thing lead to another, and he knocked up his own daughter. He gave the kid to Natsuhi and Krauss, who were trying to conceive one of their own. After that, the kid, Yasu, either gets cliffed or joins the family as Lion Ushiromiya END
Battler may have made up the first half but the rest is complete madness, that would have clearly effected Beatrices 2 personalty, just stick a homunculus in there, human experiments or a undiscovered lab and the rest is quite reasonable.
This song is beautiful
@HanakoFujita In cases where Yasu gets cliffed, he's retrieved by Genji and fixed up by Nanjo, who wisely keep the info secret. Yes...Kinzo does feel terrible about it. That's why he acts the way he does, he's disgusted with himself. The witch's epitaph was his way to find Yasu and apologize for everything. Let's not forget that SPOILER it's heavily implied Yasu is Shanon, Kanon, and Beatrice 3. So that would mean George, Jessica, and Battler would be into their cousin/aunt/uncle. END
Yasu is devastated when she finds out that she's in love with her family members. Read "Confession of the Golden Witch" from the "Twilight of the Golden Witch" manga. Has the whole story of Yasu there, and how Shannon, Kanon, and Beatrice, along with other characters were born.
Yasu's story is one of complete sadness. In the end though, I choose my ending that she and Battler truly reconciled at the end and their love was restored.
call her "sayo", she hated the name "yasu" as it was used to belittle and bully her :(
@@i.147 I prefer using Yasu precisely because it was used to belittle and bully them
@YamiAura That's why I say that it's one interpretation, it just doesn't havee to be the only one.
But as for Yasu/Lion's gender, you don't even have to go so far.It's also merely symbolism. According to the end of ep6,Yasu is a pawn.A pawn have no individuality and no identity, no matter what.
I coud go deeper than that since my whole theory is based on this, but my point is,even without the furniture complex or the genital things, Yasu is supposed to be a "thing" by symbolism.(e.g.:it's name)
I like the pawn interpretation, although a pawn can be upgraded to a queen.
Yasu upgrades to Beatrice.
YamiAura It's clealy said at the end of the ura tea party, when Bernkastel places the piece that will become Beatrice. Also, don't forget that a pawn may be weak, but it can be promoted into a queen (which, in umineko, would mean becoming Beatrice)
XXXXX can become Beatrice if certain conditions are met.
@willardhwright Well it's kind inarguable that the furniture complex has to do with an inability to love, and Yasu blames that on the cliff. The obvious interpretation is that Yasu's genitals were mangled, and thus she was probably given gender reassignment surgery to pass as a female. Lion is a 'perfect' version of herself, but Yasu doesn't know what they would have been before the cliff-fall, so Lion is ambiguous.
In the "Requiem of the Golden Witch" manga, Will asks if Krauss and Lion are "father and daughter" which Lion replies, "...Yes, we are. Problem?"
In the "Confession of the Golden Witch" from the "Twilight of the Golden Witch" manga, Yasu identifies herself as female, but once she grows into puberty, and her breasts never develop, and her period never comes, she begins to question what she really is, causing her to live as Kanon, to test if she would feel more comfortable living as a boy.
I like this but I like it more with the vocals. But this is still very beautiful.
no... a lot of authors and artists say that about their work. It means they're not satisfied. But the story is over. Umineko is done.
I mean just for my sake it's over
There's a lot left actually fine with leaving it there being finished with it. Might in the future play the rest.
@willardhwright What part of EP6 makes you think Yasu is a pawn? I'd say though, that Yasu isn't a pawn. She's much too important, unique, and significant in the grand scheme of things; even she acknowledges this.
@YamiAura A lot, lot, lot of things. Yasu itself isn't important, and it's name looks pretty much like a pseudonym in japanese mystery stories.
Yasu's story is important, not "Yasu" itself.
Anyway, I was thinking about a pawn as the pawns in chess, and this absolutely fits.
Even though in the end, maybe the other "pawn" would also fit, since no matter who it is,if we believe everything from ep8 (I don't, since it's not the last episode), she isn't sooo important in the "rokkenjima events".
@narutardkyuubi That's kinda sick; having a child with his own daughter.... >.>
@YamiAura Yes and no. Especially the part about the furniture complex, that's only one interpretation. But you're right, it's gender being neutral is very important for the scenario anyway.
Lion Ushiromiya and Wilard H Wright
Amazing :O
Releasing bonus materials like Hane and Our Confessions is not the same as "continuing it" IMO =/
True
Nope, he's still releasing tips about it IIRC. Soo.
人類誕生（はじまり）はいつだったのか本当の記憶（こと）は誰も覚えてないの
この身体の細胞のどこかにはきっと 刻みこまれてるはずね
でもそれを探す余裕は無いの神の裁きを受ける時がきたから
地球（ほし）は回る いつもと変わらぬ速度で 滅びの速度は加速して
この世界が終わりを告げる時幸せに満ちた鐘の音が鳴り響く
Ah それはまるでやすらかな子守唄のよう
誰かがきっとつかんでくれた手に願いをたくすことができますように
Ah それはやがて訪れる未来のために
預言者は言ってたけど本当のとこは誰も信じてないの
この世界が終わるはずがないとずっと
思いこんでいるはずねでもそれは間違いだと気づくの
神の裁きを受ける時がきたから 星は光るいつもと変わらぬ明かりで
救いの歌声が聴こえたら
いま世界が終わりを告げるから幸せに満ちた鐘の音が鳴り響く
Ah それはまさに清らかな愛の賛歌のよう
誰かをきっと深く愛すことができたのならばきっと幸せだけど
Ah それもやがて訪れる未来があれば
たとえば深紅（あか）な空だろうと飛べるならば この苦しみよりは少しはマシだわ
この世界が終わりを告げる時幸せに満ちた鐘の音が鳴り響く
Ah それはまるでやすらかな子守唄のよう
誰かがきっとつかんでくれた手に願いをたくすことができますように
Ah それはやがて訪れる未来のために
Ah それもやがて訪れる未来があれば
4:08
Fitting for Tommorow/Today :P
thats what this is from
sono chi no kioku
Where does this track play for the first time?
wait umineko ended with ep8 though
@AmakusaJuuza k... hold on... How come Beatrice 2 had a baby with kinzo if Beatrice 1 had a baby with Kinzo?
Time travel perhaps?=
Kinzo had an oopsie with his own daughter (Beatrice 2)
When does this play?
At the VN when you pick the Trick ending.Ange talks to Amakusa at the Rokkenjima Island with this background music.
If I remember right, it first plays near the end of the EP 7 Tea Party, when Rudolph and Kyrie carry out the massacre.
I think in Episode 7 specifically it plays at the very end of Clair's Story if memory serves me right.
Spoilers for Episode 8 just in case:
don't know if you found this out afterwards but just in case, it also plays after choosing the Magic Ending, when Battler's Gameboard is being detached from the City of Books
what do you mean episode 8 isnt the last episode?
Wait... Who's Lion Ushiromiya?
@HanakoFujita Beatice daughter are son
SPOILERS
Trans rights
Amen.
Wot
Amen
Lol umineko debunks transgenderism in literally every way possible.
why not just make Lion a boy. Seriously, as if Umineko doesn't have enough female characters already.
Because thats kinda gay
Bro didn’t solve the mystery.
End of ZA WARUDO!
Годно ёпта)
@HanakoFujita Beatice daughter are son