Puppet animation's main difficulty, from what I've seen, is actually building the characters. A detailed and advanced puppet has way more capabilities and is easier to express with, but you have to make new drawings for all those different directions and tricks for blending things in, like the mouth or eyes.. it takes forever, but It's necessary if you don't want your rigs to look stiff.
Absolutely. I find that it's easy to over-engineer my rigs, which eats into production time, when a simple setup can work. Sometimes I hate how exact I have to be with frame by frame, so puppet animation seems to be a smart way to make the best use of the artwork. and, yup, if I'm not diligent enough my stuff looks super stiff :(
I definitely agree! I know puppet animation tends to get a bit of a bad reputation due to some of the movements looking too robotic or janky as a result of the animators abusing the tweening option, but I think that issue can be easily walked around given that the animators both reference real life movements more often and hold back on their overuse of tweens that make the animation look a little too smooth. But you really summarized all my thoughts regarding puppet animation! It’s the simplest and least labor intensive animation method out there and I think more animators should really find ways to work around certain issues that may make the final product look less that traditional animation! (not to say that traditional animation isn’t amazing!)
I totally agree! Low effort work looks bad in any medium, but when good techniques are applied, puppet animation can look fantastic. Thank you for checking this out :)
I really hate how long it takes to make an animation I like. But I love the end result. Before you start animating, accept and tell yourself that this project will take 10x longer time than your hyper positive 🧠 is telling you 😁
Yes. Because of that I think we will always have projects made using frame by frame 2D animation. But that also means we will have to wait a long time for just a few of them
I find it a bit sad that most people get used to the look of puppet animation and gradually forget how fantastic frame-by-frame animation used to look. I miss so much the factor of deformation and manipulation of shapes, bodies, facial expressions and gestures. A lot of the big shows of the last decade are limited to being talking heads with a minimum of perspective movement in space.
I get it. You miss out on the potential of traditional drawings. But, we can't spend that long on animations anymore. Its sad, but quality isn't what's important. I mean that level of quality, obviously you want good work no matter what
Most of these are mainly 2.5D/3D with just texturing. I use puppets in character animator, which is 2D and you definitely need some drawing knowledge because you need a hell of a lot of triggers...hell sometimes you're just doing frame-by-frame animation as the 'stick figure puppet' thing just does not produce the result you want a lot of the time.
man.. if i could get my hands on the software i needed for puppet animation i could make tons of content for my favorite hyper fixations.. and a ton of WDY content
Puppet animation just feels so lifeless Like the character has no soul While frame by frame animation looks like it actually has life to it feeling like it a real breathing thing So frame by frame animation is better
That's true. Puppet animation will never be as vibrant or appealing as well done fbf animation. But when puppet animation is done well it is really appealing too.
3:37 But that’s the problem you can’t replace the soul that goes into 2d animation and many people with the animation talent will slowly disappear my dream is to be an animator and ill never accomplish it if people with zero talent can do it
For sure. Your frame by frame style is super charming! Puppet animation gives us a nice time + cost-saving tool to work with but it's not for everybody. I think projects with good stories that are animated with lots of heart will always find an audience.
I like puppet animation sucks that there aren’t any puppet animators for indie projects my dream is to have a puppet animation team to make an indie series and parody’s and such stuff
Puppet animation is definitely a friend in production, but it sacrifices detailed characters and linework that makes characters feel more fleshed out and alive.. for time and money. There are definitely times where it works for what you want to achieve, but the majority of the time and with how the industry is treating animation, all I can see it as is a quantity over quality approach to animation and its really sad.
100% Agree. I don't think puppet animation should be the only approach to animation. There are shots that are really helped along with puppets and moments that really require a frame by frame approach.
I agree though I over the last few years O have been playing around with moho and seeing animation from the likes of cartoon saloon that blows me away. Mind you it's about combining techniques. I'm a designer that does a little animation though I prefer drawing frames (more fun for me) it takes allot of time so I have been learning moho so I can find a happy medium place.
I understand what he's saying, but there's something about hand drawn animation, for me, that puppet can never achieve. Human hands are just better at making movements seem natural, fluid, and lively. For TV, puppet is fine, but for bigger projects, we should go back to out roots. All I'm saying is that I disagree a bit.
Puppet animation is a really fascinating topic, i make my videos with 2d puppets made in blender, Although i wouldnt say its better than traditional but there is a lot of benefits still to the technique 😉
Wow, this was an actual informative video with no bullshit. 2D puppetry in a sense is nothing new, as the art form of "shadow play" has been a tradition of many cultures for millennia. While artists have their own preferences for how to animate, its fascinating how 2D puppetry combines elements from other methods. Cutout animation is even older than modern 2D puppetry, with some pioneers of animation even creating entire films using this method. Krabat: The Sorcerer's Apprentice was a Czechoslavian film from 1978 that you guys ought to check out. Vanillaware is another studio that excels in this style of animation.
@@RigTheory yea that would be awesome... I feel like Moho is not as famous as it should be however the ownership has come back to the original creator/development team Lost Marble LLC instead of MicroSmith. With continued development Moho will be king. I need to go back and learn Animate but also I've never used Edap flash tools so I really should check that out
this video is a little insulting, i mean, youre trying to say its better when its the cheapest form of animation, the lowest quality form of animation. its useful in the same way walmart products break easily.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Innovation often begins with asking how something can be done "cheaper, better, faster". This video is just me having some fun pointing out the advantages of puppet animation. There is always a tradeoff.
3:50 is what traps me. I thought I'm gonna learn how to draw (to be a real animator) when after I got an animation job in a studio. Yes, I learn animation by skewing/rotating parts but I didn't learn how to properly draw. skewing/rotating parts is much faster and it favors the deadline of the company.
its definatly not better than 2D, with 2D the limits are less of a problem and you can literally do anything you want in contrast to 3D, Stop motion, and cutout where you kinda have to "problem solve" during the process, you can argue that 3D, stop, and cutout are better polishwise - allowing you to get more detailed and rendered frames - but animationwise 2d is by all means the best one .
I totally get what you're saying and I agree. There is something to be said about the give and take for the time, expense and skill needed for a 100% frame by frame 2D production. 2D better? Sure but that method may be out of reach for a number of reasons
There are many wonderful apps to use. ToonBoom, AnimateCC, Moho and Spine are great, just to name a few. Each has it's pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. Follow artists who inspire you and learn as much as you can :)
@@RigTheory I'm really curious how much of this is done with puppets, and how much are frame by frame. It looks like every frame is drawn by hand so it must be a lot of replacements or hand drawing lines in multiple frames. They did an amazing job with this
kind of takes some of the "magic" away from animation. add on all the crappy shows companies are pumping out to see what sticks I'm not sure i enjoy this style. granted kids wont know or care for the difference and that's what keeps the lights on for many animators
Right on. Puppet animation, motion capture, frame by frame, stop motion all have their strengths and weaknesses. And there's high end and low quality examples of each of those so when it comes to creating a project you'll have to decide where you want to end up. For cheap, fast productions there aren't a lot of choices
Id really like to have a tut on how to make this and use this as well as free softwares to make it in as well i will definitely use it and subscribe to the channel
im sorry but 2d puppet sucks it doesn’t looks nice but the movement doesn’t seem as alive movements some times look like they’re made by a computer and if the same character is being used you can’t give it that life like feeling that you can with traditional animation and it makes work look lazy or bad in my opinion i hate 2d puppet animation i can see why you tubers might use it or even adds but if it a hole tv show or movie thats when it starts to get annoying
I see what you mean. Lazy work looks bad in any medium. Disney does some really nice puppeted stuff. Puppet animation isn't always good or bad in my opinion. Thanks for checking out the vid!
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Puppet animation's main difficulty, from what I've seen, is actually building the characters. A detailed and advanced puppet has way more capabilities and is easier to express with, but you have to make new drawings for all those different directions and tricks for blending things in, like the mouth or eyes.. it takes forever, but It's necessary if you don't want your rigs to look stiff.
Absolutely. I find that it's easy to over-engineer my rigs, which eats into production time, when a simple setup can work. Sometimes I hate how exact I have to be with frame by frame, so puppet animation seems to be a smart way to make the best use of the artwork. and, yup, if I'm not diligent enough my stuff looks super stiff :(
Thanks for the info!
She always makes it stiff
Puppet animation can do wonders especially when combined with traditional 2d animation
Totally! Thanks for checking it out 🙂
Not better but equal
I definitely agree! I know puppet animation tends to get a bit of a bad reputation due to some of the movements looking too robotic or janky as a result of the animators abusing the tweening option, but I think that issue can be easily walked around given that the animators both reference real life movements more often and hold back on their overuse of tweens that make the animation look a little too smooth.
But you really summarized all my thoughts regarding puppet animation! It’s the simplest and least labor intensive animation method out there and I think more animators should really find ways to work around certain issues that may make the final product look less that traditional animation! (not to say that traditional animation isn’t amazing!)
I totally agree! Low effort work looks bad in any medium, but when good techniques are applied, puppet animation can look fantastic. Thank you for checking this out :)
a great animator will make masterpieces of any medium.
Yeah but however there is no free puppet animation softwares available but there are tons of free traditional animation softwares
Free software is great, but paid software has its advantages too
@@RigTheory free is always better :3
Lmao I use crack toon boom
Blender is actually has 2d rig animation but its kinda different than the actual 2d rig animation
I really hate how long it takes to make an animation I like. But I love the end result. Before you start animating, accept and tell yourself that this project will take 10x longer time than your hyper positive 🧠 is telling you 😁
Yes. Because of that I think we will always have projects made using frame by frame 2D animation. But that also means we will have to wait a long time for just a few of them
Cheaper? Yes. Faster? Yes. Better? NO!
Good point. I can't disagree 😆
Money making machine? YES!
I find it a bit sad that most people get used to the look of puppet animation and gradually forget how fantastic frame-by-frame animation used to look. I miss so much the factor of deformation and manipulation of shapes, bodies, facial expressions and gestures. A lot of the big shows of the last decade are limited to being talking heads with a minimum of perspective movement in space.
Say what, well to me it's better 😅, sorry
I get it. You miss out on the potential of traditional drawings. But, we can't spend that long on animations anymore. Its sad, but quality isn't what's important. I mean that level of quality, obviously you want good work no matter what
Most of these are mainly 2.5D/3D with just texturing. I use puppets in character animator, which is 2D and you definitely need some drawing knowledge because you need a hell of a lot of triggers...hell sometimes you're just doing frame-by-frame animation as the 'stick figure puppet' thing just does not produce the result you want a lot of the time.
That sounds really cool. In the end a bunch of animation approaches gets us what we really need.
man.. if i could get my hands on the software i needed for puppet animation i could make tons of content for my favorite hyper fixations.. and a ton of WDY content
Puppet animation just feels so lifeless
Like the character has no soul
While frame by frame animation looks like it actually has life to it feeling like it a real breathing thing
So frame by frame animation is better
That's true. Puppet animation will never be as vibrant or appealing as well done fbf animation. But when puppet animation is done well it is really appealing too.
3:37 But that’s the problem you can’t replace the soul that goes into 2d animation and many people with the animation talent will slowly disappear my dream is to be an animator and ill never accomplish it if people with zero talent can do it
For sure. Your frame by frame style is super charming! Puppet animation gives us a nice time + cost-saving tool to work with but it's not for everybody. I think projects with good stories that are animated with lots of heart will always find an audience.
The show and cartoon bluey is done by puppet animation :)
I like puppet animation sucks that there aren’t any puppet animators for indie projects my dream is to have a puppet animation team to make an indie series and parody’s and such stuff
Right on. Let's go for it!
Super helpful and comprehensive, thank you! I'm trying to find ways to expedite workflow and this is an option I'm excited to explore!
Right on. Puppet animation is a great way to go!
I made in 2D with puppets most of the time
Once I create a new one I want to make it as profitable as possible
Nice!
YAY, Mr Jackson! Welcome back!
What a brilliant overview of Puppet Animation! 🔥🔥🔥
Absolutely. Thank you!
I’m awesome? My channel is PuppetAnimation.
Puppet animation is definitely a friend in production, but it sacrifices detailed characters and linework that makes characters feel more fleshed out and alive.. for time and money.
There are definitely times where it works for what you want to achieve, but the majority of the time and with how the industry is treating animation, all I can see it as is a quantity over quality approach to animation and its really sad.
100% Agree. I don't think puppet animation should be the only approach to animation. There are shots that are really helped along with puppets and moments that really require a frame by frame approach.
I agree though I over the last few years O have been playing around with moho and seeing animation from the likes of cartoon saloon that blows me away. Mind you it's about combining techniques. I'm a designer that does a little animation though I prefer drawing frames (more fun for me) it takes allot of time so I have been learning moho so I can find a happy medium place.
One thing left out is interpolation between keyframes.
Right on! Interpolation is pretty awesome. How could I miss that one!
I understand what he's saying, but there's something about hand drawn animation, for me, that puppet can never achieve. Human hands are just better at making movements seem natural, fluid, and lively. For TV, puppet is fine, but for bigger projects, we should go back to out roots. All I'm saying is that I disagree a bit.
Right on. I love all forms of animation and I totally see your point. Thank you for watching.
Did you make that Jesus animation? If you did then respect. If not then respect for putting it in your video.
Right on! I didn't work on that but the animator is amazing! Thank you, Fam🙏🏽
I agree. I love doing Puppet animation.😄💗💕
Right on!
Puppet animation is a really fascinating topic, i make my videos with 2d puppets made in blender,
Although i wouldnt say its better than traditional but there is a lot of benefits still to the technique 😉
For sure. I just started learning Blender!
I want to try puppet animation but I don't know what app I can use (for Ipad)
Just what I needed, 2d puppet animation is cheaper & faster huh? thank you very much!
Cheaper, Better, Faster is the war cry of innovation. It is a very good thing, my friend 😉
Wow, this was an actual informative video with no bullshit.
2D puppetry in a sense is nothing new, as the art form of "shadow play" has been a tradition of many cultures for millennia. While artists have their own preferences for how to animate, its fascinating how 2D puppetry combines elements from other methods.
Cutout animation is even older than modern 2D puppetry, with some pioneers of animation even creating entire films using this method. Krabat: The Sorcerer's Apprentice was a Czechoslavian film from 1978 that you guys ought to check out.
Vanillaware is another studio that excels in this style of animation.
Nice! Thanks for sharing that.
Don't forget about Moho Pro !!!! Amazing for 2D puppet animation rigging and frame by frame !!!
For sure! I've had my eye on Moho and a couple of others, but I haven't learned them. Maybe I should do a proper side by side comparison?
@@RigTheory yea that would be awesome... I feel like Moho is not as famous as it should be however the ownership has come back to the original creator/development team Lost Marble LLC instead of MicroSmith. With continued development Moho will be king. I need to go back and learn Animate but also I've never used Edap flash tools so I really should check that out
this video is a little insulting, i mean, youre trying to say its better when its the cheapest form of animation, the lowest quality form of animation. its useful in the same way walmart products break easily.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Innovation often begins with asking how something can be done "cheaper, better, faster". This video is just me having some fun pointing out the advantages of puppet animation. There is always a tradeoff.
Hi, I'm starting an animation account. Do you know any good software for puppet animating?
adobe flash CS6 and toon boom harmony
3:50 is what traps me. I thought I'm gonna learn how to draw (to be a real animator) when after I got an animation job in a studio. Yes, I learn animation by skewing/rotating parts but I didn't learn how to properly draw. skewing/rotating parts is much faster and it favors the deadline of the company.
Yes. Shorter projects timelines are nice but there's the tradeoff of being able to do really beautiful frame by frame animation. Do both!
POCKET MIRROR MENTIONED RAAAAAAH
its definatly not better than 2D, with 2D the limits are less of a problem and you can literally do anything you want in contrast to 3D, Stop motion, and cutout where you kinda have to "problem solve" during the process, you can argue that 3D, stop, and cutout are better polishwise - allowing you to get more detailed and rendered frames - but animationwise 2d is by all means the best one .
I totally get what you're saying and I agree. There is something to be said about the give and take for the time, expense and skill needed for a 100% frame by frame 2D production. 2D better? Sure but that method may be out of reach for a number of reasons
I want to star to do animation with puppets but i don't know what app use 😥
There are many wonderful apps to use. ToonBoom, AnimateCC, Moho and Spine are great, just to name a few. Each has it's pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses. Follow artists who inspire you and learn as much as you can :)
@@RigTheory Thank you !!
This is kinda crazy.
Amazing
Thanks
What Cartoon is that at 4:42?
Best Friend ua-cam.com/video/j01Hg4QJ6NE/v-deo.html
@@RigTheory thank you! And was "best friend" made using puppet animation?
Scrolled through the comments to find this out too
@@RigTheory I'm really curious how much of this is done with puppets, and how much are frame by frame. It looks like every frame is drawn by hand so it must be a lot of replacements or hand drawing lines in multiple frames. They did an amazing job with this
Cutout Animation is the *COOLEST DIGITAL ART*
I agree 💯
kind of takes some of the "magic" away from animation. add on all the crappy shows companies are pumping out to see what sticks I'm not sure i enjoy this style. granted kids wont know or care for the difference and that's what keeps the lights on for many animators
Right on. Puppet animation, motion capture, frame by frame, stop motion all have their strengths and weaknesses. And there's high end and low quality examples of each of those so when it comes to creating a project you'll have to decide where you want to end up. For cheap, fast productions there aren't a lot of choices
Id really like to have a tut on how to make this and use this as well as free softwares to make it in as well i will definitely use it and subscribe to the channel
Thank you! I started learning Moho and I'm really excited about it. I will do a comparison with Adobe Aninate and Moho next😆
im sorry but 2d puppet sucks it doesn’t looks nice but the movement doesn’t seem as alive movements some times look like they’re made by a computer and if the same character is being used you can’t give it that life like feeling that you can with traditional animation and it makes work look lazy or bad in my opinion i hate 2d puppet animation i can see why you tubers might use it or even adds but if it a hole tv show or movie thats when it starts to get annoying
I see what you mean. Lazy work looks bad in any medium. Disney does some really nice puppeted stuff. Puppet animation isn't always good or bad in my opinion. Thanks for checking out the vid!
@@RigTheory ngl i thought u were gonna be like those other you tuber that have heaps of click bait videos but you seam like a really good you tuber!