£6989 Bass Vs. £149 Bass... Is there really £6840 difference??
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👆 Lee & Nathan put a £6989 Warwick Bass against a £149 Ibanez Bass! See which one they decide is best!...
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If I buy the £7k bass, will I be able to stop people from talking during my bass solo though?
you're doing it wrong ,Next time you start a bass solo first start with playing a bass line from a 90's to early 00 hip hop song or video game then go in to the solo and every time people loose interest start playing the pipe theme from Mario.
I saw The Roots do this not just with Bass solos by guitar and drum solos as well and IMO The Roots are the best live band i've ever seen
@@igormaruda6542 Why do I find female bassists so sexy? is the finger picking? or the sliding up and down the neck? maybe is because there are some seriously talented female bassists out there
You must have great ears if you can hear all the people talking who use your solo to go to the loo. ;)
If people can talk, turn it up. Lol
Just buy both, play the expensive one, then use the cheaper one to smash on the floor like a rock star afterward. People may still talk but at least you'll be the topic of conversion.
If you want something cheap that'll get the job done, get the Ibanez. If you want to own a rare work of art, get the Warwick. If you want something In between, get something in between. Whatever the price tag says, an instrument's real value lies with you, the person who plays it. Only you can make that choice.
If all you can afford is a
Maybe I'm biased (having just bought an Ibanez Mikro bass) but I really like the looks of the GSR180 and I could live with the tone - some EMGs would probably fit if you really wanted to get more sounds. And yes, I bought the Mikro at Andertons.
I love all the Andertons videos, but I'm still waiting on another Sounds Like featuring bass instead of guitar. So many great bass players out there with killer tones waiting to be replicated.
I would love that! Make it happen Andertons!
just "guys bass" into DI with some compression :^)
I believe this is referred to as "The Law Of Diminishing Returns". It gets to a point in musical instruments where you're paying 20% more for a 1% increase in performance
Absolutely love Lee during the intro. Doing what every guitar player who picks up a bass does (I count myself in that) - play the root note alternated with a few other notes in the chord. Bob around a bit to show you get the rhythm. Sorted.
smwatson1512 And uses a plectrum. For a Blues-y player I was expecting more finger-style from Lee.
and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that!
@@lowdefal6306 for sure!
LowDef Al of course not, dude, nothing wrong with it.
Ibanez are bang for buck champs .
The opening jam sums it up.....you don't need a 7 thousand pound bass
Call me crazy but I like the sound of the Ibanez over the Warwick.
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definitely!
Me too.
I own Ibanez it just sounds amazing and the neck on it just feels so smooth and I love playing it. It will sound just like Warwick if u just upgrade those pickups
Played the Ibanez yesterday, great bass for the money, especially loved the weight, bought it.
I have a Squier Affinity P-bass that I got from a pawn shop, which I play (very amateur) gigs with. I might one day be willing to trade up, but Captain Lee is making a strong case for not bothering.
I'm not a bass player but I own a few anyway and after years of playing Precision's, I picked up a Squier Jazz bass beginners pack at a great price and fell in love with the slimness of the Jazz neck at the first fret. Instant Jazz bass fan! If you can play as well as this guy in the video you can make ANY bass regardless of price sound like mega-bucks bass....
Nathan is soooooooooo ridonculously good! Not just at Bass but everything musical, such an incredible player, love whatching these for the constantly mind blowing licks and sonic saucery!! Much love to my Andertons
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IMO Anything up to (edited price to reflect inflation since I last bought a bass) £1500 is worth the upgrade. Anything higher than that and you're into aesthetic choices and specific tech quirks. I replaced my stolen bass with a rockbass half the price and while it does the job I absolutely miss the higher quality preamp, bronze frets and attention to detail in the manufacturing of the nut and bridge.
Eh, I bought a ~2k€ Sandberg California because it felt miles ahead of Fenders and such for me, and I've still noticed a huge quality improvement over it when I tried out a ~3k€ custom shop one; there was an even larger quality gap between the ~3k€ custom and a Fodera I had the chance to play.
As much as I'd like to agree with you (because, despite loving them, I can't imagine ever being able to afford a Fodera without feeling guilty about buying one), there's still crazy improvements IN MY OPINION on the top end of the price curve. Although, as we all know, this is all relative - I can imagine myself justifying a £4k bass purchase for the feel and sound, if I was able to afford one, but I can understand just as well why someone else might think there isn't a reason other than luxury and a Custom Shop nameplate.
@@XuQifei Probably true for metal? Does having quality instruments not matter in metal, or something?
Regardless, I feel like $1,000 is where the quality increase per dollar really starts dropping off. Sure, a $2000-3000 instrument will still be nicer, but at around $1000, maybe give or take $300 depending on what you're looking for, you generally should be able to get high quality hardware and electronics with very good build quality from most brands. At the very least I know that the absolute highest-end bass I could see myself ever buying is a Dingwall NG3, and even those are only around the $2k mark.
Yeah. I feel the same.
I started out in my warwick journey with a rockbass corvette 6 string, and I didn't like it for the woods and the neck dive.
I took up on an offer that was a custom shop '06 corvette $$, and I love that thing so much. They both cost the same (~$850) but this corvette $$ is so much nicer, has the switches, better pre-amp, original brass just-a-nut, bronze frets, and the swamp ash body & wenge/ovangkol neck. Now, I don't even like playing my 6 string corvette, as it feels much cheaper, and when I play it, i only wish it was as nice as the $$.
Plus, I love all the tone. I was genuinely considering selling all my basses to get a 5 string BO thumb, as I love the thumbs tone, and I don't like the thickness of the warwick 6 string necks, so the 5 string is the nice balance inbetween.
I also have an Ibanez GSR200, and it was the bass I started out with, and I don't like playing it as much, but it was a nice bass.
Love seeing Lee switching into the ‘Sales machine’ Mode :) anyway the Warwick bass looks stunning and the Ibanez is perfect for its price
I now own 4 basses but still play my £70 Pbass regularly, it's just so much fun
not even a bass player, still watching and i really like the design of the expensive one, its beautiful
Suggestion: blindfold bass challenge where Nate (or whoever) is tasked with identifying classic basses from tone and neck feel alone. Sample pool: Rickenbacker 4003, Fender P-Bass, Fender J-Bass, Warwick Thumb, Gibson Thunderbird, and a wildcard (maybe something like a Hofner violin bass)
I love custom Warwicks. Currently saving to get one.
Best of luck man
So you choose the pickup by adjusting the volume of each pickup. That sounds like a great idea in my book. No more ugly switch. I like that. I want that on my guitars.
I’ve been playing a 300$ bass (Ibanez) with my band for a year now I thought it was good enough but after hearing this top end bass it really makes me want to get a new one
Can u do one for what matters more bass amp or bass guitar when gigging?
I love bass guitars, been playing them for 25 years, but I would rather spend £7k on a better stereo setup!
I don't even play bass but this video was wildly entertaining to me. I admit tho that they both sounded the exact same to me.
Great video once again. I know a lot of guitar players, all who make a decent living from music, that own vastly expensive guitars (that they bang on about), but have a cheap bass knocking about just for "recording with". No one ever comments on how cheap the bass sounds on their albums. If you're a good player, don't waste money on headstock names or special woods. No one but you will care.
I also feel the anxiety with a new shiny, expensive, beautiful guitar. Just whack it with a screwdriver once or twice and that fear is gone, instantly!
It may be because I am mainly a guitar player, but as long as it plays well, which I trust any Ibanez would, tone isn’t as noticeable with a bass, so you could go with the £150 bass. With a guitar, however, I really noticed the difference in intonation, playability, versatility, ability to sound good and not make weird noises with high gain, and tone when spending £700-800 on a player series Strat and Gretsch Electromatic.
Looove translucent ocean blue finishes... 🤤
absolutely gorgeous Warwick there. Can't stop staring!
Warwicks are brilliant basses I've owned a few over the years including a custom shop thumb but they are overpriced IMHO I appreciate the company has impeccable manufacturing processes but for me that streamer is a 3k bass at the most
I have the schector omen 4 and for 350$ I haven't found a bass as nice ,plays ,sounds great ,twenty years ago that quality and options were way more expensive
The Captain playing the bass warms my soul.
Nice Job folks.
My sugestion..
Sire v7 Ash X Sire Ash 2Nd Generation.
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Awesome jam dudes!
The captain on a bass wow :D I’m a guitar player but I like noodling on a bass every now and then, very informative
Wow! Now that's a gorgeous bass!
Iv played that Warick and it is amazing
That's a lovely Warwick NS you've got there, or is it a Spector Streamer?
If you don't touch the expensive instrument because you are afraid, its value goes instantly to 0.
Or not dare to take it out on gigs....
I agree .if you don't play it .it's WORTHLESS
Nice to see the captain going back to his bass roots lol 👍
When I were in Los Angeles, i went into a guitar centre without a budget in mind and just tested every bass with 5 strings they had. Walked out with a SR505 .. Cheap, sounds amazing and plays fantastic
I did however have the prestige sr5000 in the back of my mind when I walked inn (they did not have it in store)
I had a SR400EQM dragoneye burst a few years back and ended up getting rid of it because I wasn’t playing much at the time. Still the most comfortable bass I’ve ever played/held. I’ve got a fender MIM jazz bass right now and I still like the $400 bass much better. Going to order a new one soon and have my local shop set it up where I bought the same model at before. It was just so good
Now in retrospect, i kinda find the neck a little thin. That means i need to pinch the neck with my thumb harder and it's kinda staining on my fretting hand
I didn’t really notice pinching too hard on it. It just fit me really well. I did have the 5 string version as well and didn’t like that flat backed neck at all. Played for a short time and sent that thing back. Unfortunate because of how much I like the 4 string model. I was just starting out playing when I got the first one so that could be why I didn’t notice having to squeeze too much
On the subject of having fantastic looking guitars/basses and then being afraid to touch them, this is why I would buy a Sire V7 Swamp Ash over a US Fender Jazz. Looks just as nice but is a third of the price. You would still be annoyed if you damaged it, but probably not too much.
Can you do episode for markbass little mark TUBE amp ?
I think the going lower, use 5 strings joke deserves more appreciation, so here's me laughing: lol
Yay! Some channel love for us bass players.
Hey Thomas - our "All About the Bass" videos go out every Friday on this channel!
Tasty jam in the beginning
Ahh Nathan, mucho love and respect. :)
What an absolutely stunning bass!
I still think 1250-ish freedom bucks...1000-1500...right around there...that's the sweet spot for guitars and basses. You can definitely spend more OR less, but that's really where you're going to start getting a nice variety of really nice instruments that will fit a wide variety of players, styles, play levels, etc.
When The Wold Is Running Down! Yeah Lee !!! that's crazy cuz i listened to Zenyatta Mondatta yesterday and i hadnt heard it in ages (my fave Police album btw) Nathan, you can groove your ass off but please play sus chords on that the next time ok? Just kidding of course :) thanks for'the vids mates, peace from France
Ibanez basses are best because it is affordable and sounds great ❤
There is a point of diminishing returns with going up the scale. The Warwick has surely gone way past it but if you think of features you want as a professional bassist such as active electronics, a wide tonal range, a neck through body and string through bridge - these are features that can make a real difference if you are a touring musician, recording musician or discerning amateur. Things like the artwork and other features pertaining to the looks of the bass are entirely up to individual tastes. Yes, a more affordable instrument will do the job just fine, but maybe not quite as nicely. There is something to be said for a higher cost item with high quality parts but past a point it just gets silly.
I have this exact Ibanez. I have two MIM Fenders. The difference is huge. The Ibanez original pickups are bad. Very muddy. The electronics are quite poor as well. No shielding. When I was playing on stage and I was using only one pickup there would be a really loud buzzing. The knobs were not working correctly. The MIM - a really good sound, some minor problems either with the nut or the knobs, but much better value. I would say that I would pick up the cheapest USA made Fender and I don't see any value buying a more expensive one. For 6000+ you can get the following combos - Jazz bass and a Precision, active and passive, freted or fretless.
My case, doing more than one blind audition at the biggest bass shop in my country, none of my favourites were under 4000€. Damn.
How much for the Warwick now that it's a used demo model? ;)
me and my friend were in andertons a few weeks ago and he was playing that £7000 bass for 2 hours even though he isnt a bass player
You're paying for a better build quality mainly. tighter fit between neck and body, smoother neck etc wouldn't say £7k better but better
How much are the pick-ups from the Warwick?
i have ibanez bass's - and like them - but dont ever expect to get a replacement neck if one gets damaged... their customer service rep straight up told me that they are just a wharehouse that assembles guitars - and theres no such thing as a replacement neck.... so if anyone finds out any diff - please let me know....
I own a Warwick - I love it! - but 7K pounds for a bass is ridiculous.
There are many low cost instruments available today that offer astounding value for money. However up to perhaps the £1000 mark, guitars and basses can almost always be improved by things like sorting out the odd high fret, oiling and polishing the frets and fretboard and a good set up. I'd like to think this isn't the case for the really expensive end of the market. At some point once you get on to the fancy marquetry, inlays, precious stones, gold and silver and hand painted graphics and so on any instrument becomes an artwork, a statement of the skill and taste of the maker. Good for an investment and display in a glass case, but you wouldn't play them.
You can always spot the expensive basses from a mile away - by the missing fret markers...
i've played guitar for about 7 years, this video has actually made me consider buying a (very cheap) bass! any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Joe Ibanez SR range or Sire are worth a look.
God damn Nathan can play. Didn't know the GSR had a jazz bass version, thought it was just PJ.
I really believe the cutoff to lasting quality is approximately 500 quid with the collector paying 2000 pounds or more to keep in a case. Depends what you want to do with it. Truly, playing 5 days a week, 700-800 pounds will get you a reliable work horse that will withstand the rigors of travel and yet you won't be heartbroken if someone loses his fish and chips over it
The best sounding guitar I own, or have ever heard (with the exception of famous 59 bursts) was a discounted to £380 B grade ex-demo 2013 Les Paul 50's Tribute. Routed out for humbuckers, Gibson Historic rings, Grover 502c tuners, new vinyl nut, re-wired 50's style with NOS PIO 400v 0.015uf caps, CTS TVT 30% taper pots and a set of Sheptone Blue Sky PAF's. Total: £760. Another £500 got me a beat up H/W AC30 with alnico blues AND NOS valves! Shoot I even paid £65 to import the Sheptone pickups ..
Absolutely nails the 57 gold top tone. Gigged that rig all over the UK to universal compliments on the tone. If it got nicked or the van set on fire I'd go out and buy another Vox and probably a Mexican Tele tomorrow and carry on..
Any actual musician paying more than 7-800 pounds for their #1 is either rich or vain.
For 7k I’d want the Gibson auto tune equivalent to a AutoSlap finger on that bass.
Does look nice though.
15:55 epic pun there Lee
I recently found this youtube channel so these may be questions that have been asked and answered.
What instruments doe the Captain play?
If he hadn't been born into the business does he thing he'd play anything at all?
The Ibanez is a fantastic value product..
I learned to play on a bass that must've been worth less than a hundred euros. I remember my left index finger being full of scratches because the fretboard finish was terrible and many notes on the fretboard were out of tune because the neck was twisted and the truss rod adjustment didn't really work. Nowadays I play a Warwick which isn't even worth a grand and I'm more than happy with it. I really couldn't care less how much the bass costs as long as I feel comfortable playing it and I feel some kind of a connection to the instrument. I still have that "shitty old bass" I started with and I wouldn't trade it for anything just because of the history I have with it. Of course there's a difference between a 50$ and a 5000$ bass but that's really not the point. If you like an instrument, you go with it and how it makes you feel and play can't really be measured by money.
For 7k I would buy American Jazz bass, Aguilar amp and cab, and lots of accessories and still I would have around £3k left.
As a watch guy, car guy and bass guy, I like this video
Opening jam - holy smokes.
A friend bought a supercheap acoustic guitar. Stopt playing after a short while. Then she asked if I could learn her something. I picked up the guitar, tried to tune it but that was impossible. And playing it was also very difficult.
pa4tim I think you meant “teach” her something.
To my ear, the Warwick had the superior tone but only marginally. I own both Warwick and Ibanez basses and like them all. It's all about what you're reasonably able to pay and that is a personal choice.
First bass I ever owned: GSR180. I decided to turn it into fretless bass.
Result: Amazing bass, I was shocked when I heard it for the first time after defreting! And it’s feather light.
I’ll cut my hands off if I ever buy a Warwick, those basses are not even worth as a fire wood.
wait wait wait! why is el capitan playing 4 strings all of a sudden? what happened? and why is his scale so long? I'm so confused
I thought that Warwick was a Spector bass for a second, I guess they just have similar body styles then
Hey, my 1000 pound fender jazz garhers dust because I got a Mikro
first part of the cheaper bass sounded like some jaco lol
I wish they'd continued the kraken theme up onto the fretboard, it'd look awesome with the top few frets having and inlay to match.
What's the usual price for a regular streamer, about £2k? That's a big increase for something that looks prettier.
Rob Downes standard is probably closer to £3000 , this one had the crazy graphics and bartolinis (MEC are standard), plus the top is probably reserve wood. Btw the way they recorded this is terrible. Really not representative of the Warwick sound. this is also a neck through versus bolt on.
Not sure about that Warwick. You’re gonna have to send it to me to give it a try.
The expensive one looks fly af tho. But the cheaper one sounds pretty good
Harley benton have nailed it
Where is Skinny Lee?
Not sure, but the fact that The.Captain introduced himself as "Stand-in Lee" suggests that bass-player-Lee will be back at some point.
That warwick sounded absolutely horrible... It didn't have the clarity and balance in tones that the ibanez did. That warwick was only expensive because if the art involved in making it. And on the argument about a gigging bassist, the bassist would obviously choose sound and playability over asthetics. Asthetics are the last thing considered in getting a gigging instrument. It must stay in tune, must be able to set in the overall mix well and must be easy to physically play so your creativity isn't stiffled by discomfort. I'm seriously shocked by how cheap the warwick sounded. That warwick sounded like the £150 bass even when Nathan was playing it which proves even a talented bassist can't make that warwick sound better.
Probably the Bartolinis tbh, not everyone is into them. Quite "polite" sounding. Warwicks don't usually come with them, bit of a strange choice.
Nathan King could make a rubber band sound amazing.
At least the Inanez doesn't have a wonky headstock. $7000 and Warwick can't get strings to go straight into the tuning pegs? WTF
The unanswered question here is how much does the "drawing" cost? In other words, what does Warwick charge for a bass with the same spec but without the fancy - and to my taste off-putting - visuals?!
Davie504 made a cardboard bass sound amazing. 99% talent
pretty sure
it is 20% talent and 80% hard work and practice
@@NotSosigRamsey That's what talent is: the willingness to put in the work and suck while doing it.
Who gives a shit
The Ibanez sounded so much better. Never understood the appeal of active pickups unless you're Les Claypool.
The tone settings he had on the amp just made both basses sound buzzy with no tone like they were being played under a duvet. Give me Phil Lynotts bass sound any day.
Good instruments & watches for that matter hold their value so you can usually sell them on & get your money back or even a profit;
I love it when expensive basses look so ridiculous I don't have to suffer unobtainable bass anguish.
Please ask Nathan to ask Mark to come on the show, Captain meets Mark King,,, YES!!
You should do like James Hetfield, who gets a custom guitar made (albeit nothing fancy and just a flat camo finish) just to beat it up every show. Ramming it down on the headstock and all. He really takes relic-ing seriously... - Whereas say Kirk Hammett back in the day took an Ibanez look-a-like and trashed that one. But I bet it was still OK. - I think Murray and Gers in Maiden used proper Fender Strats to throw around though. But yea, they all have the budget.
But the point being; Considering what théy do with them, I think you don't have to be too careful unless it's just a piece of art like that Warwick. But then again, considering how chunky it looks, it could probably take a good beating. Just too bad it's a neck-through, you can't fix that (as easily).
I really like Warwick basses. Own a Corvette myself and it's a wonderful bass for a mid-range price. It cost me about £600 if I remember and the tone and feel of it are impeccable. Use it for rock/metal and blues. Cheap guitars are cheap for a reason. I would love to get my hands on that £7k beauty, even just for a few moments......Even if it is a ridiculous and slightly unjustified price.
7 grand??? And it's used. Seems a bit pricey for a second hand guitar. Does your finger sweat maintain the value?
My experience is that tone woods don't make as much of a difference with basses because the low resonant frequencies don't interact as well with the tone woods as the higher frequencies of a 6 string. I think that is why basses seem to be much better value per £. So it comes down to the electronics, which are getting cheaper and cheaper for better quality all the time. Sire are a case in point.
Hence proved 'Its not about the weapon but the wielder'
I mean, the Ibanez is a really great bass for its price so I’d say it’s worth it just to get the cheaper bass if it fits your play style.