Its time to talk about the Sony A7V..
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2024
- In this fun speculations video, Its time to talk about the Sony A7V..
I'm thinking it drops within a year.
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I'd rather the a7v stay at 33mp but get a faster burst rate and less rolling shutter
LOL, it wont, you think they gonna cannibalise their A7s lineup and their A9's?
@@SMGJohn Don't be so eager to: LOL. There is a lot of room for improvement without cannibalising either the A9III or the A7SIV(if it exists and hasn't been axed in favour of the FX-series)
Same sensor for at least two generations.
33Mp at 10FPS doesn't compete with the A9III with its headline act of 24Mp at 120FPS because 24Mp is more than enough for sports photography with 400+mm focal lengths.
The A7V doesn't compete with the A7S/FX-series either because the decent 4K will always be cropped and 8K isn't possible because the 33Mp are in a 4:3 aspect ratio and not the standard 16:9. Slightly better performance for the cropped 4K shouldn't necessitate the prohibitively expensive stacked sensor and processor. The A7SIV/FX-3ii will likely feature newer sensor technology that doubles the light-capture performance. (The sensor tech that debuted on a Sony mobile phone).
Sensors usually last through 2 gen of Sony cameras, at least. Govin that even the A6700 has the AI chip, I think that Sony might frt us the A75 pretty soon although ….. A1 might be even more overdue for upgrade?
@@artmaltman I wonder if the A1ii would be an exception to the "Rule" and get a new sensor.
@@SMGJohn rumor is their will be no A7S and it will be replaced by the FX-3 MKII.
I expect it in the fall. The A7IV came out Oct. 2021 so I expect the Sony A7V Oct. 2024. 44 MP, AI autofocus, improved IBIS. I will be in.
why 44MP? Why would the basic model have a new sensor every generation!? Make the processors faster instead.
@@Sidowse Will A75 get the same flexible rear screen like A7R5?
@@artmaltman I don't know, but that is less likely as that is cost per unit. AI and faster processor etc have a development cost, but very little per-unit cost. I'd guess that the basic-model will feature improvements that don't really cost much to manufacture.
@@artmaltmanI’d say yes, based on its success and that it’s already available on the new a7c cameras.
@@EmilWall the A7C series doesn't have the multi flex screens.
More mp (36-42) would be really nice. TBH, I just want un-cropped 4k60 😂 (heck, the Canon R6 ii has it). I shoot the A7RV & A7Cii (today) and my hope is to replace the A7RV.
Personal opinions:
- I think it will retain the 33mp sensor. For the market it's placed in 33mp is more than enough and very competitive. What needs to change is the readout speed. Rolling shutter needs to be improved and I definitely agree with the 15fps speculation. Should also do 20-25fps electronic, but I wouldn't be shocked if that doesn't happen.
- 4K 120 is also a big thing that really should happen. It'll probably be cropped, and at best it will be pixel-binned. Don't see a full width, downsampled image happening with this level of camera.
- Price is really a big deal, and I personally think it's either going to retain the $2500 or get bumped to $2600. Why? Because the market is competitive. Nikon is making really great strides and aggressively pricing their bodies, and Panasonic is doing the same. Remember, this is effectively Sony's entry level full frame body. They can't price themselves so high that it won't sell. But you never know!
I plan on buying it regardless since I'm ready to upgrade my a7iii :)
100%. If Sony ups prices for the a7V, they risk being undercut by the Z7iii. Nikon is offering formidable specs at better price points than Sony, and E-mount lenses can be adapted to Z bodies. And with Nikon offering affordable telephoto primes, the scales may tip in their favor
I want to be able to preset white balance inside custom modes. This is a bigger deal than people think, because you really need to be set to a custom mode to get the most out of the photo / video switch. When you're set to a custom mode you can set your photo settings and your video settings independently. Which then gives you the ability to use the hybrid photo / video switch quickly. But then I can't use my preset white balance.
Fokus bracketing like the A7RV?
Nice forecast Stefan but would an a7V the most cost effective upgrade? As an enthusiast and part time pro who shoots with the a7III and a7IV I’m interested in what lies ahead. My normal path to upgrade would be to sell my a7III for roughly $1,000 US and buy an a7V for $3,000 costing me about $2,000 for the video centric upgrade.
But another option would be to keep my a73 and a74 which kill it for photography and spend the $2,000 on a third body, the ZV-E1 or fx30 for video.
Your thoughts?
Love my Sony A7 iv that does everything I want, that being said may consider an upgrade if they change the flip screen and upgrade both the ev and lcd which I find lacking
I hope they improve the ergonomics and noise performance at high ISOs. There's nothing else remaining to improve from A7 iv.
In camera focus stacking, in camera multiple exposure, would be nice
Agree. Its an awesome, overlooked feature.
@@StefanMalloch Overlooked but in-camera-focus stacking should really be a standard feature. At least focus stacking with single frames and not calculated together in camera. It is a myth to me why Sony started with that only since the A7R V. 61MP an so many macro photographers out there shivering there single frames into the next focussing position - meh, no way, very hard. Not applicable anymore in these fast times.
A 40 MP sensor (39,321,600) with 2x2 pixel filtering would be 4K width. Sony could then discard a portion of the height. Seems like a simple way Sony could provide high quality uncropped 4K video. Alternatively, if they designed their circuitry to sub sample from every other vertical and horizontal pixel, and they could read out full res stills at 15 fps, that would give them full frame 60 fps video. Of might require some post filtering to prevent jaggies and would require a new sensor design, which would be expensive.
The A7V will have the same 33Mp sensor. No way a brand new sensor for every new basic model.
I personally find 33MP as a great sweet spot. I have no intrest in making my files bigger for added resolution that I cant see in my prints.
Not to mention, going from the mark 3 to the 4, they lowered the "compressed raw" color depth from 14bit to 12bit color to accommodate that higher resolution.
Agreed. 33mp is ideal for this camera. If I needed more than that the R series is the way to go. Additionally, I think a 40mp sensor would start to canabalize the R series target market.
Thanks for the video. Own many Sony cameras, replaced my A7IV with the A7CII but also have an A1 and A7RV. How about staying at 33 MPixels and improving fps and offering no crop for video. Add in improved rear LCD and EVF and two high speed card slots. Basically take the A7RV and put in the smaller 33 MPixel sensor with improvements.
the irony is everyone used to hate on sony because they released new cameras so quickly, when canon/nikon were on slow moving dslr tech and sony was using fast improving mirrorless tech. And now, seems like sony has slowed down while canon has been releasing new ones faster than they usually did! I think you're off on the 40mp body, (my uneducated!) guess would be the same 33mp sensor, but gosh I sure hope they can make the readout speed a little faster and I sure hope they put a better res screen on there and the flippy/tilt screen the a7rv/a9iii have. That said, I worry they'll leave it as flippy screen to entice photography-first people to get the very, very expensive a7rv. So maybe at least a higher res screen, sony, please?? I've never held an a9iii and probably never will but it sounds like the ergs are improved with the shutter button so would love to see that. Finally, would love to see an AF that doesn't make you select the type of subject first and just figures it out. Seems like that's possible with a little better processing speed. If it only has those "minor" improvements it better not be too much more expensive, but I'd agree with 3000$ price tag if it ends up having all the things you're thinking.
The biggest issue i have is the 4k 60 crop, originally wanted the a7 iv for both video and photo, with time i find myself increasingly using it for Video and the crop is starting to be an issue for me. Thought about switching to the a7 siii but with the price difference in mind and the lower pixel count makes its not so good for pictures. Hoping the a7 v will fix that.
Great video and I mostly agree with your assessment. Upgrading the LCD and EVF are majorly important to me and I wouldn't mind improved low-light focusing as well. I'm still rockin' 2 A7III bodies and hoping for a fall '24 release but have a feeling it'll be the first half of 2025.
Imagine it has the a7riii sensor stacked 💀
Also finallyyy, i was waiting for this.
where are we getting these rumours from?
For me, for me, the most important thing that Sony needs to improve, is the internal IBIS in the camera: unfortunately (leaving out the Sony A7RV), the IBIS used in Sony cameras is one of the worst in Full Frame (For example, the IBIS in the Panasonic S5 Mark 2 is significantly better, especially in video), and it should also improve the electronic stabilization, to make it more and more effective (it would be a dream if it even came close to the electronic stabilization we see on an iPhone today)!
I do agree it's not great. I have an Olympus M1 Mark II and the in body image stabilization of that camera is one of the best ever. It feels like you just pressed movie playback when it's on.
Love my Sony A7 IV. I have two. I am in no rush. But. I will buy the Sony A7 V no doubt about it.
i wish sony would bring external rexording to ssd like lumix s5iix has.
For me no Pre Capture may mean a change of system as been waiting too long for Sony to catch up with Canon and Olympus.
I'd love the a9iii style body
I think they'll stick to the 33MP sensor, they tend to use them for 2 generations. Also the readout was slow enough that more MP times faster readout is going to be (IMO) very expensive. I'd be happy with a much faster readout, 6 fps is underwhelming. Get it to 10-12 fps, plenty for this range.
Outside of that I'd be happy with usability upgrades such as better IBIS, the 'shutter down' sensor protection (in general Sony PLEASE make the sensor less of a dust magnet!), and for sure the flippy-outy hinged screen, and I'd like auto focus stacking. And because I don't video a lot, no crop on video would be perfect (I don't have special video lenses that go wider like the 20-70mm).
I've also already set aside way too much money so I am all prepared for it to be £3,000... yikes.
I am not into video so a reason to upgrade will be 15 fps (lossless compressed) and 40 mp. All my zooms are Sony.
All I want is for Sony to give us the a7rv fully articulating screen on the forthcoming a7v, I really hate the flippy floppy screen that only flips to the side , the way I hold my camera especially for video I find it gets in the way . I have a a7riii at present & happy with the original screen that articulates up & down . there has not been a budget full frame camera without the flippy floppy screen since the a7iii & that's not fair as I'd love to upgrade with out having to pay 3.5K for a7rv.
Agree! Great feature
I think if they don't add something really special it would struggle to get the attention against the rest of the lineup.
Something cool like in body cellular data transfer (speed up work flow and less sd card reliance).
This is 2024 camera companies need to stop thinking it's the naughties.
Innovate or get left behind.
Open Gate video would be lovely
I’ll rather they keep the 33MP but improve the processor and sensor to increase the readout time in order to limit rolling shutter.
I agree with most. I think 15fps with no strings attached is wishful thinking. Maaaybe 15fps lossy compressed w/ silent shutter. Mechanical I’m hoping for 12fps lossy, and maybe finally 10fps full quality. I’d take it! Maybe 16-bit in single shot mode?
33MP seems like plenty on my A7iv. I kinda don’t want more, honestly. Keep the MP, improve the ISO. Spare my hard drive. I’m thinking Sony may agree.
Lastly, they need to match the Canon features of focus stacking, maybe auto HDR/AEB merging… just tick those boxes.
Minor thing I’d like improved: I want all the speed of a CFE card even if I have an SD in the 2nd slot. The writing and buffering needs to be somewhat independent of the files/cards going to each card slot. If I’m on CFE+RAW in slot 1, let me have all the speed and buffer if slot 2 is only a JPEG backup file.
I hope it has a silent electronic shutter
Of course it will, even the a7iii has that
What about low light? The A7III works better for night photography than the A7IV. Will the A7V catch and surpass the A7III?
how come the a7 iii is better at low light ?
Based on DXOMark labs testing results, and also in my personal experience when shooting stars.
@@josephjohn3560interesting thank you
What about focus breathing compensation, precapture, improved menu, ergonomics, card slots?
I don’t think Sony can go wrong with this model, even if they just added the new ai af, flip screen and ibis of the a7rv (basically what they did with a7c ii) people would buy it.
I wonder if it will be released at the same time as A1 ii and if so, will it share any new features with it, that are still unheard of? Either way the A7 V will end up being a classic, no doubt about it.
a9 is not stacked sensor line any more, it is global sensor now.
I think that there is a chance to have stacked sensor for A7V. I would say that we could have then below lines:
A1 - stacked high res
A9 - global low res
A7 - stacked low/medium res
A7R - not-stacked, high res
Let's wait and see but I hope to see the the alternative for A1 in stacked sensor department.
Id pay for it with 4k 60fps without crop and NO MORE OVERHEATING
Sony A7 V will have a stacked sensor, the AI autofocus, viewfinder, and body from the A7R V maybe with minor updates or improvements, 8.0EV IBIS, full width 4K60. $2699 USD.
I expect for a7v : 44MP , Ai auto focus, fan system, 4k 120,better rolling shutter.
Id rather have them keep the 33mp sensor and up the durability/quality of the shutter mechanism.
I think the A7iv is already close to perfection. 4K is over the top, you need perfect eyesight and an 85" screen to see the difference.
For me remains 33mp, ai, also stack sensors
Sony started a huge discount campaign, so looks Sony A7V will be presented soon
I want a lock button ...my buttons constantly get pushed while on harness.
SONY will definitely include some new feature that is appealing as a product, something that is not on the HOPE list.
Can't wait to see what they bring to the table!
When do you expect the V?
Same resolution, way faster readout speed, improved video specs with internal pro res hq, no need to improve af and keep the same price!
Gimme the AI focus and 10 frames uncompressed RAW and I‘m happy. Focus Stacking and Hybrid IBIS would be a cherry on the cake for my macro work with the 90/2.8.
Please no more pixels!
I’d like the new a7V to have the following
4k120
Improved ai autofocus
Faster burst
4K 60 no crop
Better res on the display and Evf
Custom luts
Dynamics stabilisation improvements
If it has no crop and better rolling shutter ill be in
Good Bro
Why did they release IV and RV the same year. It doesn't make sense. It's like releasing a iPhone 15 Pro Max and releasing a iPhone 14 at the same time...
Iv in 2021??? RV was like 17 months later
Wait did I go through a time warp? I thought the A7V was already out?
A7RV, yes. Not the A7V.
@ericlamont4130 ah thank you!
Stacked sensor.
Nice Video 🎉
I also made a video about my wishes for the Sony A7V. Maybe they will come true. Thank you for your introduction. 🎉👋📸
30fps needed
Lol I wish. 0% chance
@@StefanMalloch u make me 😢
Sony can't keep stacked sensor for A1 only (A9 now on gs). I expect A7V to have it. And it need to be at a lower price tag than the (in my opinion) overpriced A1.
Sony is still trying to protect the a9ii sales. It would make sense to instead release an apsc stacked sensor camera for around $3-3.5k. Giving it the full 30fps would entice owners to buy Sony glass to max out the frame rate. Wildlife photographers would eat it up
Sony A7IV some big problems; The mechanical shutter is of poor quality (in my case I had to replace it after 20,000 clicks). We also only have the option of a maximum of 10 fps for photos, which is not enough, the resolution and brightness of the screen is not the best, also the evf has the same disadvantages; But the biggest minus is the poor quality of the mechanical shutter, one of the most annoying things is the fact that sony in the last updates (from 2.0) did not change anything in the camera, only gave us some "updates"; I hope they will start to respect customers more and give real updates. As for the sony A7V I hope it will not have any of the above minuses and I hope it will have a decent price (2400 pounds for the Sony A7IV is a price too high).
I don't think 40MP is needed for this camera. I think Sony will stick to the price of the A7 IV, or $2699 but no reason to price the A7V $500 more, Canon is attacking Sony heavily on price by dropping prices of their cameras. It could be but I think $2699 is the highest. I hope $2499 :-).
Well, yes, they will give us $500 worth of innovations.
How else ?
I wont buy a A7V as I love my A7 IV. The A7 VI on the other hand. Yeah sure. That will be a valuable upgrade.
The a7V will have a global shutter, it'll be a standard for full frame hybrid camera offerings by SONY. For APSC, global shutter will be negotiable. If it indeed comes with the global shutter, the price will be higher (+$3500).
Would be nice but I don't see it. Hope I'm wrong
No one talk about the bad AWB make, what about flash? Other brand except for Sony flash, not working good with flash, TTL is not send the correct signal, and the color are not correct! Why no one talk about this?
I have to compensate +2+3 to have the correct exposure in TTL. I came from nikon all my life, now I have Sony and this is my only complaint at the moment.
40mpx with better dynamic range. Sorry but I lost your there.
It's possible that Sony might announce this camera just before July 26 due to summer olympics. That is of course if Sony wants to stay ahead of Canon since they are coming out with the all new R5ii next month. If for some reason Sony doesn't make it before July 26 then I would be strongly led to believe that they are putting more into this camera than most people are anticipating. Such as a stacked sensor or even including GPS, which by the way no one has yet to implement this into their cameras! WTF!
Why not ? Only it will be 2025 )
I don't understand this with 10 frames per second. That is, if you press the button and count, you get 3...4 frames per second. Nikon D750 has 6 frames per second and actually takes 3 frames. Test, say 1....2 between 1 and 2 and you'll see that you have a few frames, never 120 or 10 or whatever they say, regardless of the card, it's a shooter.
so, just speculation. what a waste of time
What is there left to talk about? Everything has been chewed by everyone on YT
Technology is changing daily. There are new releases monthly. Why would I not talk about cameras on my photography channel?