"Y'all ninjas deal with emotions like b$tches What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother You traded your soul for riches My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it You seem to be only concerned with dissing women Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?" That touched Jay's soul
You must be joking. Ether is more important to Nas than Jay lol nobody thinks of Ether when they see Jay-Z he still has a career, recognition, and power in the industry. Nas? Finally decided to get good beats and finally won his first Grammy
@@YoungShadTvif we make it more than that then the argument will never stop. Just like LeBron, Kobe, Jordan argument. Everyone has there favorites. 🤷🏽♂️
Takeover > Ether. Prior to this battle, I was a Nas fan and didnt like Jay-Z at all. But after the battle, I had to give it to Jay-Z. Takeover was 🔥. The beat, the lyrics, the insults, it was funny, had swag, great energy, and was skillful. I gotta be honest. I dont see why so many think Ether was great. Nas had a lot of 8th grade gay jokes in it, not much charisma, low energy. Some lines were nice....but overall that song is HEAVILY OVERRATED!
@@jeffreyrice4242 I think people were tired of Jay, and wanted Nas to win. Jay said it himself.. "since I will not lose, you try to help him cheat". The beat and delivery on Ether were hard as hell. But yeah, those disses were grade school level. "Tae Bo Hoe". "Gay Z". "Cocka Fella Records". "Dame Dummy". LOL.
It’s an insult to compare someone who got 14 number 1 albums to someone who got 14 double wood albums and his baby mama back dug out.. Men lie, women lie and numbers don’t bozo 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.. this clown said it’s a insult to compare trash nas to Jayz 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s a low key insult to compare someone who got 24 Grammys, 14 number 1 albums and over 140 million records sold to a chip tooth rapper that can’t sell water to a whale.. y’all internet weirdos are obsessed with jayz
He about to go crazy again cause Dre didn't invite him to Dre's Walk of fame star reveal. Front row was dre, snoop, em, 50, xzibit, Jimmy iovine, some other OG's. No game :D
@@louiiviableMax B don’t care too much for Game and probably won’t know who TF you’re talking about when you ask him. He still got a trial to go to in order to be released from prison. He not worried about some rapper.
@@jaye5926 Then don't present it as a fact! If I say "Takeover is the better song" and then someone says I'm wrong, I can't back out like a pussy because I presented my opinion as a fact! Have a nice day 😊
As a fan of both rappers, at 1st I was let down by both songs, cause I thought neither of them songs were up to their lyrical standards. I thought it would be way more lyrically vicious on both sides ( think Jay on the Pump it up freestyle), but i grew to appreciate both songs shortly thereafter. *For the longest, I thought U Wanna Be Me by Nas was better than Ether
@@sugs6839reasonable doubt n in my lifetime were not bigger or more influential albums than illmatic n it was written in the 90s...it was nas n biggie who were the biggest solo rappers outta NYC up until big passed...
@@jay07261986 thats not really true. LLcoolJ was bigger than Nas in the early 90s easily. I mean Chuck D early 90s too. I I guess DMX is from Yonkers. But after Big's passing from NY - it was Jay z with no competitors except DMX in the 90s no question. That Hard Knock Life Tour was just sensational.
@@sugs6839 if we talking 96 n 97...as far as the streets n mainstream popularity. No rappers in NY were bigger than big n Nas. In the early 90s Nas was an underground artist but still was considered the leader of the new school n influenced all his peers that came out after him...jay included....
Bruh jayz career bodied Nas entire career.. y’all weirdos be tryna change history but billboard, bet, mtv and vh1 won’t allow y’all 😂😂😂😂.. by the way super ugly did ur man Nas filthy 😂😂😂😂😂.. especially about the Carmen incident that actually truly happened ✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾
Jayz did Carmen filthy and did Nas even more filthy when he elected to throw them rubbers in the jeep Nas brought Carmen.. once jayz said that the battle was over.. That’s history you can’t rewrite 😂😂
Ether is overated as hell, it's a dope song but bar for bar takeover was better and had more quotables..... and the fact that jayz rebuttal the majority of ether with one line on super ugly shows you who diss was far superior.... "Since you infatuated with saying that gay shyt yes u was kissing my dick when u was kissing that bytch"
Or maybe he just think nas is trash 🗑️ just like most people.. it’s a reason he didn’t sell bozo.. just cause u like nas boring songs doesn’t mean everyone else have to.. vlad is a Dj and your boi chip tooth Nas ain’t never give any Dj a club banger.. point blank period
So Jay can lose a beef to Nas but Drake cant lose a beef to Push? The criteria is not consistent but interesting topic. The guest should be unbiased tho but thats tough. We all have our favorite rappers hard to go against lol
I’m the biggest Jay Z fan ever, but I’m here to say that ETHER WAS lethal HE COMPLETELY ANNIHILATED, JAY-Z AND ROCAFELLA BY HIMSELF HE LET OFF SHOTS! You gotta give this one to NAS👑 What makes ether so great is nobody expected Nas to come back like that the way he did 💯 He made a whole new word lol it became a verb! That’s impact alone! takeover was a good song, but it didn’t have the same energy to it. Takeover didn’t feel like a diss felt like a great record ether felt like a real diss record! Vlad has a little hostility towards Nas because he can’t get that interview, but he is entitled to his opinion.
@@sugs6839 takeover wasn’t even a real Nas diss. We’re not talking about the better diss not better song.. and I would actually even argue blueprint 2 being the better song as well, because beat wise it literally trumps the takeover beat
@@MR.__G no it does not. The doors sample on the takeover was a stroke of genius. And the takeover had a scathing verse directed at Nas. I'd take Takeover over Ether but Last real alive on par with blueprint 2. The hook on blueprint 2 was corny imo
@@sugs6839 if you want to say the blueprint 2 hook isn’t great I won’t argue that. But the beat feels godly like and the rhymes / tactical disses are great. Btw takeover hook ain’t crazy either lol
How is this still even a debate? The Takeover is a great track in its own right but the reason why Ether is considered to be the better "diss" is because Nas basically said what a lot of fans were thinking/feeling about Jay-Z during that time which is why it resonated with so many people.
What u mean how it’s a debate bozo??? Maybe some took credit away from nas because it took him 6 months to respond and jayz came right back the next day with super ugly.. that’s the difference between hov and can’t sell water to a whale Nas
@@TheOne-j3i Name the facts on takeover besides sloppy seconds?? Ether had more facts, more insults, more jokes, more wow factor. So yes Ether is a better diss record than takeover.🤷🏾♂️
@@JohnKing-jz9zb Hey Super Bozo, learn to read! The topic/question is [Either vs Takeover], not and also vs Super Ugly. Response time is irrelevant when people are still praising the work so many years later.
Ether is the greatest diss song of all time!!! There was NO coming back from that type of song for anyone…. After that song dropped the battle was over…
Lol i grew up during this time, it was definitely not like that at all. Jay’z’ recorded Takeover first, then Nas recorded ‘Got Yourself a Gun’, which was a solid record but no match for Takeover. Then Nas returned with Ether and thats when Ether overshadowed Got Yourself A Gun and was inadvertently positioned next to Takeover. Basically, Nas made two attempts at Jay’s Takeover record in order to compete. Think about that for a moment…
Games actually the reason i gained so much knowledge on the rap game years ago, it was his influence that made me become a huge fan of Nas, Jadakiss etc
Nas is not that great lol he’s not lyrical at all. He’s straight to the point like 2pac. Most of Nas music is boring. Lil Wayne has way more hits and sold way more music than Nas. Nas ain’t even in Wayne league. Nas super overrated.
@@youaintnocopjreed2860what have you gained from being a lil Wayne fan ? Because his songs are clearly forgettable I could still bump It ain't hard to tell,one mic,the cross even now and Wayne says the dumbest stuff which are considered to be lyrical
@@youaintnocopjreed2860 this mentality right here killed hip hop. When people and the industry opened their asssess to pop trash like Wayne, Gucci Mane, Jeezy, Rick Ross and all that late 00s, hip hop died. What came after (trap) was the rape of hip hop's corpse.
@@tlamelokgosimalebe3119 Are you kidding me? Six Foot Seven was super lyrical A milli Super lyrical Hustler Musik Mrs Officer Go DJ Kobe Bryant Right Above It Love me Rich Asf I’m Me I’m not a human being Gonnorhea Lollipop Ice cream paint job Oh let’s do it John Steady Mobbin Mannnnnnnnn I’m just going to stop. He has wayyyyyy more and too many hits for Nas to compete
Interesting. Nasir is my second favorite rapper of all time. For me, it's O'Shea Jackson and Nasir Jones. I feel like Nasir had the excitement and Shawn Carter had the sting. I felt the sting from _Takeover._ When he started disrespecting Nasir catalog, that kinda hurt me. Overall, Imma give it to Nasir. _Takeover_ kinda came and went. _Ether_ is still here. I'm so glad those brothas were able to patch it up and move on because that was a tricky period in Hip-Hop. That's really when all that blackball sh¡t was gettin' outta control. Sh¡t, if you said "hello" to the wrong n¡gga, yo' career was curtains. They tried hella hard to make Nasir a memory. He would've ended up like Mic Geronimo at the rate he was goin'.
takeover didn't come and go it's still bumps you can literally play that at any function you can even dance to it. what nas did was throw personal attacks like talking about his lips and sadly that's what catches people attention the catty ish Jay-Z literally did a unplugged and performed that song and the place started dancing lol
Nah I wouldn’t say Mic Geronimo lol because Nas actually had hits and commercial appeal. People talk about Nas catalog at the time but Jays wasn’t that great either before Blueprint all he had was Reasonable Doubt which people slept on in 96 and Vol 2 and that was because of DMX
@@hooligan5381nah Nas talked about more than Jays lips lmao. He talked about him biting his and Biggies lyrics and him being a Nas Stan and Hawaiian Sophie and Jays low self esteem because of his looks.
@@Southernplayalistic_96 nah no shit but that's what people were hanging on the personal attacks on his looks and the eminem feat all the other stuff casual barely remember Nas flow on ether was trash he was really talking instead of rapping Jay Z took nas out of his element with ether that's why i have him winning Jay-Z was effortless on takeover
Ya be saying the craziest shit ever man😂 nas & Jayz don’t sound alike at all. Jayz has more classics than nas and been greater for longer. Nas the better lyricist but that’s the only thing he has over Jay
His flow on renegade is awsome after Dre endorsed him he blossomed all the haters should just applaud him . / Jay z - talking about em on star ⭐️ is born
@@GMAV3RICK don’t matter what you think it’s what the general consensus say. Just as the general consensus agreed drake lost against pusha t and Kendrick
@@kennethemenike1597 I couldn’t care less about what the consensus says, facts are facts, Jay-z won. You can’t even name 3 Nas songs of the top of your head, besides Ether. 🤣
“Been around since the ‘80s” nobody outside of NY knew him until after BIG & ‘Pac died. Reasonable Doubt is one of the best albums ever but it wasn’t known when it came out. He was overshadowed. Jay doesn’t have the people like ‘Pac, Nas, or even Wayne. Jay up there but can’t be the GOAT.
0:24 Now The Game doesn’t want to say the whîte boy from ShadyAftermath. Before now, among every rapper in the game, The Game was the biggest Stan on the planet.
@@raidercujo8636 You shouldn’t have waited until now though…you should have told Game this many years ago before those other interviews where Game himself called dude the best & before he said, “He can’t be seen, by nobody, Jay know, everybody know, you, you don’t mess with the whîte boy.”. - The Game 🤷♂️
@@PR-WAY “The greatest rapper, infinity all-time, is Eminem…” -The Game 🤷♂️ I know that y’all believe clones & other bs, but I’m pretty sure that was the real Game who said this.
@rollandcurtis874 I never thought em was better then Jay ... game can't change his opinion what's wrong with that ? Every human being has the right to change what they thought about something He feels different now
Man, The Game said "Right now, Jay-Z and Wayne got longevity and are solid." Okay! Understand preferences, but i will never compare double lines, entertaining punchlines and ego tripping to the lyricism level of Nas. And Nas just dropped, recently, Magic and King's Disease sagas, with all the quality. Nas have been making entertaining and motivating songs, talking about relevant things and not using too sugar (doubles, egos, etc) to attract people. Maybe in terms of influence to the new generation and impact in global market, but not about longevity and catalog, man... Again: There's a style for every moment and i understand preferences, but no way putting Jay and Wayne above Nas. Not even right now!
@@sugs6839 I don't understand why Nas won that beef because of that song. I was young back then maybe I wouldn't understand the climate back then. But that's a record with no repeat value.
Facts !! 15 straight mins of different flows, pockets, cadences, delivery, lyrical ability. Easily my fav diss track ever. I could damn near recite the entire 15 minutes
If we're being honest and not biased.. Ether is overrated... Ether vs superugly or blueprint 2... takeover was mostly for mobb deep outside of the one verse jay pit towards nas
a whole verse is enough to warrant a response. Originally he ain't try to go at Nas and just take a shot at summer jam, but this cocky mf was feeling himself and said nah, ima go at him and kill his career. Needless to say, he got the WAKE UP CALL of a lifetime going at the GOAT. So much so, lowkey that became a Nas HIT in the streets and mainstream and everytime someone hears one second of that beat, mfs know what time it is.
@ChicagoStyles23 as I said to open my post... if we're being honest and not biased... but seems you can't do either.... I'm a 2pac fan but even I can say Ether is overrated. Superugly and blueprint2 were both better... some of you ppl HATE jay-z so much you just happy someone dissed him, even if it's mediocre... it took nas 3 verses to get to the point
@worldwiderell1812 I'm not being biased breh, the delivery was harder on ether. Agree Ye produced the better beat but that's what makes ether so special, Nas's performance carried that beat so good people forgot that the beat was mediocre and became a staple in hip hop history where when you hear the beat you automatically know what time it is.
Takeover is a better song but Ether is a better diss!!!!!! Jay-z catalog is wayyyyyyyy better than Nas!!!!!! I'm just glad two kings came together!!!!!! Oh yeah "No Vaseline" is my favorite diss song!!!!!
Nothing in jay catalog is better than Illmatic or it was written.... Nas has the greatest album in hip-hop history ...he has the greatest diss record in hip-hop history....he has the greatest guest feature (verbal intercourse) in hip-hop history....period Illmatic It was written I am (original version) Lost tapes Stillmatic God son Life is good KD 1 and 2 Magic KD 3 and magic 3 all Considered classics.... You outta ya mind! Nas got verses better than Jayz songs
Honestly I think Illmatic, it was written, I am are all classics. I listen to Jay but I dont thinks he's made a better album then those 3. It was written was more creative and lyrical then RD
@@Dabridge4009 Reasonable Doubt is a classic and the blueprint got ranked #1 album of all time in major polls and Jay-Z was #1 in a few majors too but its all opinions tho.....
And Tupac said this lil clown name Nas tryna be like me, talking about he left the hospital in took 5 like man.. you living fantasy I reject your deposit 😂😂😂😂😂.. matter fact he also said listen me God don’t like ugly it was written and Nas your whole damn style is written 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.. Nas a bum
After takeover dropped, the majority of fans thought Nas was finished, but did he ever comeback! Not only with ether, but with a classic album and a great promo run that totally shifted the attention from blueprint to stillmatic. Nas had also dropped stillmatic “freestyle” leading up to the blueprint version of takeover, which don’t get enough credit (stillmatic freestyle) pretty much ran through all of rocafella wit that freestyle!
“Brace yourself for the main event Y'all impatiently waiting It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?/// Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big” /// Nas won in the first 2 bars. You had to be alive when the songs came out to understand the impact they had. I think Blueprint 2 might be a better diss than Takeover and is criminally underrated.
I see 😳 Nas, 50, Em 👱♂️, Jay Z, Wayne all in the same Top level. But i see Jay at the lower cause it seems like his success from his business ventures is what makes him more hot 🔥. Nas won the beef 🍖 but Jay got more successful after.
0:31 in the 80s he was a nobody , he was back up for Big daddy Kane between shows or when Kane was resting , hawain Sophie fame , even copied his mentors name , and still funded his own album cause always been bang average
Finally someone from the West coast admitting that Hov is the goat. Longevity and great consistent content is the key. And he’s right. Ether is one of the greatest disses ever to me. Next to No Vaseline
Nas is a top tier MC fasho, but I've always felt that Ether is overrated. Popular opinion is to say that Ether is the best diss track, when people just like how aggressive and disrespectful Nas was on that record. Jay was spitting straight facts on Takeover, while Nas was just tryna roast Jay and rocafella. This is all based on opinion though.....
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Vlad just don’t like Nas because Nas won’t speak to him so any opportunity to say something negative about Nas, Vlad will take it
Or maybe vlad knows jayz just a billion times better then nas and don’t respect nas for taking 6 months to respond
@@JohnKing-jz9zb lmao that you Bleek? Talkin crazy
Big factz....
@@JamesSmith-ov5um that’s u jayz nut hugger?? 😂😂😂😂😂
Nas probably fucked Dj Vlad bitch
0:46 “Lonjativity”?? And then The Game immediately pronounces “longevity” properly.
😂😂 satisfying
Thought I was the only one to catch that lol
I'm crying 😭😭😭😭😭 boy combined longitude with longevity
The Game is bugging, Nas is TheGoat
Gotta love it lol Vlad be dying to correct ppl.
Vlad said Lon-gi-tivity 🤔 Game was like yea” longevity “. 😂😂😂
caught that one 🤣
Vlad caught me off guard with that one lol never thought I’d hear him pronounce longevity like that
Lol vlads brain is going
Vlad claims he speaks better English than Michael blackson lol, Vlad is a buffoon.
😂😂😂
"Y'all ninjas deal with emotions like b$tches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissing women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?" That touched Jay's soul
That shit hurt 😞 lol 😂
well life is harsh, hug me, dont reject me, or make records to disrespect me, blatant or indirectly
They called him ugly but nas baby mama was letting Hov throw condoms in his child car seal.. That really touch nas soul 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@purefire21Exactly Jay fans just say who has more money, I don't understand Jay status as being number 1 he isn't in my top Ten.
What the fuck is that even suppose to mean? It’s a bunch of nothing
Remember when Vlad thought Pac was still alive when Ether dropped
And it was five years since he passed 😂
n yet he calls himself a rap expert 😅😅😅😅
I remember that!! I was about to leave this same comment
😂😂😂😂
Cuz he's an idiot 😂😂😂
Ether has to be a stain on Jay-Z's legacy. If Jay can erase that part of his career? He would throw a million to erase the beef.
Probably a billion!!😬😬
Nah, it was probably the best rap competitive battle on both sides ever. Nas just dropped the nuke
You must be joking. Ether is more important to Nas than Jay lol nobody thinks of Ether when they see Jay-Z he still has a career, recognition, and power in the industry. Nas? Finally decided to get good beats and finally won his first Grammy
@UnderwaterShadow Nas pressed the button without praying. J been more bothered than nas, He still is bothered til this day.
@@rexgamewell oh yeah I’m sure Jay is bothered that he fucked Nas’ baby mother during there beef but yeah Jay is bothered 🙄🙄
Lyrically Nas #1 forever. Nobody can compare. Jay-z and Lil Wayne can’t touch Nas.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
True but its about more than that
@@YoungShadTvif we make it more than that then the argument will never stop. Just like LeBron, Kobe, Jordan argument. Everyone has there favorites. 🤷🏽♂️
@@YoungShadTvmore than the rhymes and flow
This up ⬆️
Ether beat and the song itself is goated. I’m surprised it didn’t get a Grammy
It really wasn’t that good.
Longevity??? No one is touching Nas on any level, catalog, lyrically and everything
Scarface has entered the chat
Catalog wise Nas can’t fuck wit Hov stop it
@@keithdrafts1991 Nas has a better catalog lmao
Hov might have more hits maybe but Nas had better albums
Funniest comment 😂😂😂.
Ether > Takeover
No. Takeover is better
💯💯💯💯💯💯
@@straightlead8exactly takeover crushes ether ether has only dat beat
Takeover > Ether.
Prior to this battle, I was a Nas fan and didnt like Jay-Z at all.
But after the battle, I had to give it to Jay-Z. Takeover was 🔥. The beat, the lyrics, the insults, it was funny, had swag, great energy, and was skillful.
I gotta be honest. I dont see why so many think Ether was great. Nas had a lot of 8th grade gay jokes in it, not much charisma, low energy. Some lines were nice....but overall that song is HEAVILY OVERRATED!
@@jeffreyrice4242 I think people were tired of Jay, and wanted Nas to win. Jay said it himself.. "since I will not lose, you try to help him cheat".
The beat and delivery on Ether were hard as hell. But yeah, those disses were grade school level. "Tae Bo Hoe". "Gay Z". "Cocka Fella Records". "Dame Dummy". LOL.
Nas is the greatest rapper of all times. It’s a lowkey insult to nas to compare the two
FACTS!!!!!
Its Tupac in my opinion
It’s an insult to compare someone who got 14 number 1 albums to someone who got 14 double wood albums and his baby mama back dug out.. Men lie, women lie and numbers don’t bozo 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.. this clown said it’s a insult to compare trash nas to Jayz 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s a low key insult to compare someone who got 24 Grammys, 14 number 1 albums and over 140 million records sold to a chip tooth rapper that can’t sell water to a whale.. y’all internet weirdos are obsessed with jayz
@@JohnKing-jz9zb if Grammys make you the goat then Robert horry the goat over Jordan.
Vlad has and continues to hate on Nas - let it go Vlad
It's weird man
Facts
Vlad is so corny
Nas definitely got the best diss track of all time if not 2pac hitem up
FACTS
Ether > HitEmUp anyday.
Papoose - A Fair One
We cant say hit em up was the best bcuz pac died 3month after this shit
I put Ice cube no vaseline in there
Jay even said Nas won the round
It’s crazy cause it’s 2Pac on the beginning of that song saying “F*** Jay-Z”
Yooo fr?😂
@@ChazzZimmermanMedia Yup Real Sh** Look it up!
Word?? Oh shit
You gotta be born after 2000 to not know this lol also Pac killed Nas also lol
@@larryDaG1982 💪🏾💯
Homie tryna perform at the next superbowl 😂
Facts lol
He about to go crazy again cause Dre didn't invite him to Dre's Walk of fame star reveal. Front row was dre, snoop, em, 50, xzibit, Jimmy iovine, some other OG's. No game :D
Seems like y’all care more than him 😂
Game don’t really care about jay like that he super wavy ask max b 😂 🔥
@@louiiviableMax B don’t care too much for Game and probably won’t know who TF you’re talking about when you ask him. He still got a trial to go to in order to be released from prison. He not worried about some rapper.
jay a legend...nas a legend...nas won the beef with ether though easily
Takeover is better in almost every way 😊
@@Lagchunk thats your opinion...not mine which is cool
@@jaye5926 Then don't present it as a fact! If I say "Takeover is the better song" and then someone says I'm wrong, I can't back out like a pussy because I presented my opinion as a fact! Have a nice day 😊
@@Lagchunk #1 I didnt present it as a fact #2 I never said u was wrong : u created a whole story 2 try 2 make yourself right smh thats crazy 🙄
@@Lagchunkthe only thing factual Jay said was he smashed Nas baby mama but that actually worked in Nas favor in the long run.
Ether was lethal decapitation on Jay Z... I thought Nas wasn't gonna ever stop rapping... I literally had to pause the CD to just SMH 😂😂😂
Bruh ran outta beat on that mfa 😂😂😂
That helped Nas out a lot
it was jsut disrespectful but Jay Z had the better song from production to lyrics it was just better
Nah that song sounded like a freestyle. Nas song sounded like a puzzle, with the way the hook was set up etc@@hooligan5381
As a fan of both rappers, at 1st I was let down by both songs, cause I thought neither of them songs were up to their lyrical standards. I thought it would be way more lyrically vicious on both sides ( think Jay on the Pump it up freestyle), but i grew to appreciate both songs shortly thereafter.
*For the longest, I thought U Wanna Be Me by Nas was better than Ether
Nas has more longevity than both Wayne and Hov.
No he does not. Hes been around a long time but he was in Jay's shadow for most of the mid to late 90s. Jay z has always been at the top
Right you forgot bout Wayne mixtape run tons of songs and albums nas doesnt have that
@@sugs6839reasonable doubt n in my lifetime were not bigger or more influential albums than illmatic n it was written in the 90s...it was nas n biggie who were the biggest solo rappers outta NYC up until big passed...
@@jay07261986 thats not really true. LLcoolJ was bigger than Nas in the early 90s easily. I mean Chuck D early 90s too. I I guess DMX is from Yonkers. But after Big's passing from NY - it was Jay z with no competitors except DMX in the 90s no question. That Hard Knock Life Tour was just sensational.
@@sugs6839 if we talking 96 n 97...as far as the streets n mainstream popularity. No rappers in NY were bigger than big n Nas. In the early 90s Nas was an underground artist but still was considered the leader of the new school n influenced all his peers that came out after him...jay included....
Nas bodied JayZ with Ether period yall cant rewrite history😂😂Nas did that man filthy
Bruh jayz career bodied Nas entire career.. y’all weirdos be tryna change history but billboard, bet, mtv and vh1 won’t allow y’all 😂😂😂😂.. by the way super ugly did ur man Nas filthy 😂😂😂😂😂.. especially about the Carmen incident that actually truly happened ✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾
No he didn’t. Ether was corny.
Jayz did Carmen filthy and did Nas even more filthy when he elected to throw them rubbers in the jeep Nas brought Carmen.. once jayz said that the battle was over.. That’s history you can’t rewrite 😂😂
@@JohnKing-jz9zb I remember that line Jay-z wrote on ‘Super Ugly’. All facts!
Ether is overated as hell, it's a dope song but bar for bar takeover was better and had more quotables..... and the fact that jayz rebuttal the majority of ether with one line on super ugly shows you who diss was far superior....
"Since you infatuated with saying that gay shyt yes u was kissing my dick when u was kissing that bytch"
I know Vlad was seething inside when Game was hyping up Ether, Vlad always been on the Jay-Z bandwagon in the Nas beef.
Games face When Vlad said "Long-itivity" and then he corrected him with Longevity 😂😂
Dj Vlad always looking to downgrade Nas,here it didnt work out
ALWAYS!!!
Or maybe he just think nas is trash 🗑️ just like most people.. it’s a reason he didn’t sell bozo.. just cause u like nas boring songs doesn’t mean everyone else have to.. vlad is a Dj and your boi chip tooth Nas ain’t never give any Dj a club banger.. point blank period
@@JohnKing-jz9zb Shut the f up,we talking depth of talent and art u talking club bangers,go strip somewhere for those bangers,u slow minded moron.
@@JohnKing-jz9zb You are a clown. You agree with a DJ that thought Tupac was alive when Ether came out. Nas haters keep embarrassing themselves 😭🤣😭🤣
@@JohnKing-jz9zb Nas didn't sell?😂😂
Nas killed Jay-Z ether diss track classic material hip-hop period .
So Jay can lose a beef to Nas but Drake cant lose a beef to Push? The criteria is not consistent but interesting topic. The guest should be unbiased tho but thats tough. We all have our favorite rappers hard to go against lol
stop putting hov and drake in a convo like they ever will be in the same caliber. please gang
def bias in his picks. We know he tight with drake
Who said that ?
Nas won
Push won
Anyone who says different is SuS
He’s reasoning for drake was his pop status and how it didn’t matter to the masses. But, I also know Game doesn’t wanna say Aubrey lost
Fym at least Jayz responded and Jayz don’t write his rhymes. Don’t compare the 2
That ETHER that make you fuckin soul burn slow
Nas put a dent in jay's career with Ether.
How, Jay is alive well and thriving 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@blackwealthpower7877 No one said he's not doing well, but it's a blip on the radar...the biggest L of his career that he can't take back.
@@blackwealthpower7877just say you’re a hovenger
@@KardiFan2000 I think he’ll be ok. 😂
@@blackwealthpower7877 He wasn't OK when he was crying on the radio to Angie Martinez after Ether was released.
Ether it’s not even close
This!⬆️
Man stop it 😂😂😂
Blueprint 2 song >>
Ether that's all I gotta say
@@ThatboyAnt216 ya big fact
I’m the biggest Jay Z fan ever, but I’m here to say that ETHER WAS lethal HE COMPLETELY ANNIHILATED, JAY-Z AND ROCAFELLA BY HIMSELF HE LET OFF SHOTS! You gotta give this one to NAS👑 What makes ether so great is nobody expected Nas to come back like that the way he did 💯 He made a whole new word lol it became a verb! That’s impact alone! takeover was a good song, but it didn’t have the same energy to it. Takeover didn’t feel like a diss felt like a great record ether felt like a real diss record! Vlad has a little hostility towards Nas because he can’t get that interview, but he is entitled to his opinion.
As far as a Nas diss...The Blueprint 2 title track is better than Takeover. 💯
Someone who actually knows !! Anyone that just brings up takeover really don’t know about blueprint 2
@@MR.__G bs. Blueprint 2 is good but imo Takeover was better than ether.
@@sugs6839 takeover wasn’t even a real Nas diss. We’re not talking about the better diss not better song.. and I would actually even argue blueprint 2 being the better song as well, because beat wise it literally trumps the takeover beat
@@MR.__G no it does not. The doors sample on the takeover was a stroke of genius. And the takeover had a scathing verse directed at Nas. I'd take Takeover over Ether but Last real alive on par with blueprint 2. The hook on blueprint 2 was corny imo
@@sugs6839 if you want to say the blueprint 2 hook isn’t great I won’t argue that. But the beat feels godly like and the rhymes / tactical disses are great. Btw takeover hook ain’t crazy either lol
Game, Nas and Pac killed Jay-Z
No they didnt😂 get ur knowledge up, people love to hate on the greatest :) pac didnt do ish but got himself and Christopher killed
Name the 2pac NAME THE 2PAC BAR THAT “KILLED” JAY-Z 🤔
Nas having the crowd go lyric for lyric in Central Park in 04 made it a done deal.
Ether or No Vaseline are arguably the best
Also, I think the only ones who can compete with Jay is Wayne, Cube and LL.
Nas is the GOAT
Man nas crushed hov in battle no debate but he lost the war forsure. Jay z longevity is crazy!
How is this still even a debate? The Takeover is a great track in its own right but the reason why Ether is considered to be the better "diss" is because Nas basically said what a lot of fans were thinking/feeling about Jay-Z during that time which is why it resonated with so many people.
💯
What u mean how it’s a debate bozo??? Maybe some took credit away from nas because it took him 6 months to respond and jayz came right back the next day with super ugly.. that’s the difference between hov and can’t sell water to a whale Nas
@@TheOne-j3i Name the facts on takeover besides sloppy seconds?? Ether had more facts, more insults, more jokes, more wow factor. So yes Ether is a better diss record than takeover.🤷🏾♂️
@@JohnKing-jz9zb Hey Super Bozo, learn to read! The topic/question is [Either vs Takeover], not and also vs Super Ugly. Response time is irrelevant when people are still praising the work so many years later.
@@TheOne-j3i How can Jay-Z possibly be the GOAT when Eminem murdered him on his own sh!t?!
Crazy. Nas would go toe to toe with Hov in versus. Ether, NY State of Mind, One Mic, Made You Look, If I Ruled the World....just a few.
Nas has the best solo catalogue in Hiphop, imo.
Why does everybody always gotta be kissing Jay Z's 🍑🤦🏼♀️
As opposed to kissing Nas’s ass?
FACTS!!!!!!
Probably his Influence... maybe business savvy??? Jay def not my fav either, but he doesn't suck either
He outlived everyone who could compete with him.
honeslty its cuz hes the goat... his catalog too deep... too many amazing albums... and i dont even like jayz
Ether is the greatest diss song of all time!!! There was NO coming back from that type of song for anyone…. After that song dropped the battle was over…
Lol i grew up during this time, it was definitely not like that at all. Jay’z’ recorded Takeover first, then Nas recorded ‘Got Yourself a Gun’, which was a solid record but no match for Takeover. Then Nas returned with Ether and thats when Ether overshadowed Got Yourself A Gun and was inadvertently positioned next to Takeover.
Basically, Nas made two attempts at Jay’s Takeover record in order to compete.
Think about that for a moment…
Game your hip hop card is canceled naming Lil Wayne over Nas.
If Hov, Wayne and Naz dropped right now Naz would have the best album easily.
Stop
Stop with the d riding comments, nas never have the best album out of them stop it
All 6 of the Nas & Hit-Boy albums were better than 4:44
@@adamphillip5305you wish bozo.. nobody even heard them albums accept nas stans.. I don’t even know 1 song off them albums bozo 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@sterlinghines1240stop it bro Jay ain’t drop a good since American Gangster and that was 07 and I’m not going to even entertain Wayne junkie ass
Game is the truest student of hip hop in my opinion if it wasn't for him I wouldn't know hip hop from old to new
Learn from better people
@@Don.M.Nah Games the one
Games actually the reason i gained so much knowledge on the rap game years ago, it was his influence that made me become a huge fan of Nas, Jadakiss etc
Wayne over Nas ? 😂😂😂😂
Naw, nobody who love or understand rap think Wayne better than Nas
Nas is not that great lol he’s not lyrical at all. He’s straight to the point like 2pac. Most of Nas music is boring. Lil Wayne has way more hits and sold way more music than Nas. Nas ain’t even in Wayne league. Nas super overrated.
@@youaintnocopjreed2860what have you gained from being a lil Wayne fan ? Because his songs are clearly forgettable
I could still bump It ain't hard to tell,one mic,the cross even now and Wayne says the dumbest stuff which are considered to be lyrical
@@youaintnocopjreed2860 this mentality right here killed hip hop. When people and the industry opened their asssess to pop trash like Wayne, Gucci Mane, Jeezy, Rick Ross and all that late 00s, hip hop died. What came after (trap) was the rape of hip hop's corpse.
@@tlamelokgosimalebe3119 Are you kidding me?
Six Foot Seven was super lyrical
A milli Super lyrical
Hustler Musik
Mrs Officer
Go DJ
Kobe Bryant
Right Above It
Love me
Rich Asf
I’m Me
I’m not a human being
Gonnorhea
Lollipop
Ice cream paint job
Oh let’s do it
John
Steady Mobbin
Mannnnnnnnn I’m just going to stop. He has wayyyyyy more and too many hits for Nas to compete
"I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced"....
Basically nas said he influenced jay... Best bar on ether.
It's a crime to omit LL Cool J from the longevity relevance roster
Whats he done of note since his 2000 album?
@@adamphillip5305LL been out since '85, chill...
@@ezekwu Yeah, a 15 year run. Nothing compared to Nas
Nas doing 30+ summers straight and consistent
I don't think LLCJ has dropped enough music over time to even compete for a "longevity" contest.
Nas got Jay Z period Ether was a next level diss. Takeover was cool but it wasnt hitting like that.
Vlad can’t even pronounce longevity properly Lmaoo 😂😂
The Carmen interview as a watch next suggestion is wild diabolical👺👿👹
The Takeover is my favorite song from the Jay Z and Nas saga. I bump that like it ain’t even a diss song 😂
What about Blueprint 2?? He murdered Nas on that “And the lil homie Jungle is a garden to me” 💯🔥
That's nice. Ether still shitted on it 😂
@@60ballkilla I thought Blueprint 2 was the best song out of all of that. And I thought Jay won the whole thing.
Ether still won@@abduljabbaar
Ether still won
ETHER IS THE PINNACLE 💥💥💥💥
Interesting. Nasir is my second favorite rapper of all time. For me, it's O'Shea Jackson and Nasir Jones. I feel like Nasir had the excitement and Shawn Carter had the sting. I felt the sting from _Takeover._ When he started disrespecting Nasir catalog, that kinda hurt me. Overall, Imma give it to Nasir. _Takeover_ kinda came and went. _Ether_ is still here. I'm so glad those brothas were able to patch it up and move on because that was a tricky period in Hip-Hop. That's really when all that blackball sh¡t was gettin' outta control. Sh¡t, if you said "hello" to the wrong n¡gga, yo' career was curtains. They tried hella hard to make Nasir a memory. He would've ended up like Mic Geronimo at the rate he was goin'.
takeover didn't come and go it's still bumps you can literally play that at any function you can even dance to it. what nas did was throw personal attacks like talking about his lips and sadly that's what catches people attention the catty ish Jay-Z literally did a unplugged and performed that song and the place started dancing lol
Nah I wouldn’t say Mic Geronimo lol because Nas actually had hits and commercial appeal. People talk about Nas catalog at the time but Jays wasn’t that great either before Blueprint all he had was Reasonable Doubt which people slept on in 96 and Vol 2 and that was because of DMX
@@hooligan5381nah Nas talked about more than Jays lips lmao. He talked about him biting his and Biggies lyrics and him being a Nas Stan and Hawaiian Sophie and Jays low self esteem because of his looks.
@@hooligan5381 Really? Perhaps it's a regional thing because I never hear _Takeover_ anywhere. _Ether_ had more impact.
@@Southernplayalistic_96 nah no shit but that's what people were hanging on the personal attacks on his looks and the eminem feat all the other stuff casual barely remember Nas flow on ether was trash he was really talking instead of rapping Jay Z took nas out of his element with ether that's why i have him winning Jay-Z was effortless on takeover
This 🔥 VLAD switchin it up n the game the perfect person for this convo the whole beef playlist questions….
I agree
Takeover Was A More Entertaining Song And Ether Was More Personal
I never seen game so happy and enthusiastic about a topic lol
Nas fathered Jayz and gave him his style and Jayz had to bite Biggie s entire image and lyrics to get through his career
And you jayz nut huggers are idiots 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Jayz fathered Nas child when he was throwing condoms in his car seat
Shut yo dumb ass up. Nas and Jay have two different styles
not true
Ya be saying the craziest shit ever man😂 nas & Jayz don’t sound alike at all. Jayz has more classics than nas and been greater for longer. Nas the better lyricist but that’s the only thing he has over Jay
His flow on renegade is awsome after Dre endorsed him he blossomed all the haters should just applaud him . / Jay z - talking about em on star ⭐️ is born
Nas definitely won that beef no doubt
I disagree.
@@GMAV3RICK don’t matter what you think it’s what the general consensus say. Just as the general consensus agreed drake lost against pusha t and Kendrick
@@kennethemenike1597 I couldn’t care less about what the consensus says, facts are facts, Jay-z won.
You can’t even name 3 Nas songs of the top of your head, besides Ether. 🤣
@@GMAV3RICK that’s not facts. Get to know what facts mean first
@@kennethemenike1597 It is facts, kiddo. Truth hurts. 🤗
“Been around since the ‘80s” nobody outside of NY knew him until after BIG & ‘Pac died. Reasonable Doubt is one of the best albums ever but it wasn’t known when it came out. He was overshadowed. Jay doesn’t have the people like ‘Pac, Nas, or even Wayne. Jay up there but can’t be the GOAT.
0:24 Now The Game doesn’t want to say the whîte boy from ShadyAftermath. Before now, among every rapper in the game, The Game was the biggest Stan on the planet.
Em is nowhere better then Jayz leave it alone
He's never said Em was the best tho lol. And Em cant fk wit Game either
@@raidercujo8636 You shouldn’t have waited until now though…you should have told Game this many years ago before those other interviews where Game himself called dude the best & before he said, “He can’t be seen, by nobody, Jay know, everybody know, you, you don’t mess with the whîte boy.”. - The Game 🤷♂️
@@PR-WAY “The greatest rapper, infinity all-time, is Eminem…” -The Game 🤷♂️ I know that y’all believe clones & other bs, but I’m pretty sure that was the real Game who said this.
@rollandcurtis874 I never thought em was better then Jay ... game can't change his opinion what's wrong with that ? Every human being has the right to change what they thought about something He feels different now
Man, The Game said "Right now, Jay-Z and Wayne got longevity and are solid." Okay! Understand preferences, but i will never compare double lines, entertaining punchlines and ego tripping to the lyricism level of Nas. And Nas just dropped, recently, Magic and King's Disease sagas, with all the quality. Nas have been making entertaining and motivating songs, talking about relevant things and not using too sugar (doubles, egos, etc) to attract people.
Maybe in terms of influence to the new generation and impact in global market, but not about longevity and catalog, man...
Again: There's a style for every moment and i understand preferences, but no way putting Jay and Wayne above Nas. Not even right now!
i tried to get into jay z music but its hard, havent found a song that stuck with me
You may be too slow… maybe mumble rap is more your taste.
Dj Vlad always looking to downgrade Nas, here it didn’t work out.
Takeover is a better record. Still play it to this day. Ether was great for that moment.
Takeover also a better diss track if you appreciate lyrics and flow. Ether was more direct but less lyrical
@@sugs6839 I don't understand why Nas won that beef because of that song. I was young back then maybe I wouldn't understand the climate back then. But that's a record with no repeat value.
Brad Jordan has the best catalog in rap history!
The GAME made the best diss song of all time with 300 BARS N RUNNIN !! idc what nobody say that song straight classic 💯💯💯
Facts !! 15 straight mins of different flows, pockets, cadences, delivery, lyrical ability. Easily my fav diss track ever. I could damn near recite the entire 15 minutes
Why do people put a cross around their neck but still live for the world that cross around your neck won’t take you to heaven
“Pac, Nas and Big ain’t no best”
If we're being honest and not biased.. Ether is overrated... Ether vs superugly or blueprint 2... takeover was mostly for mobb deep outside of the one verse jay pit towards nas
a whole verse is enough to warrant a response. Originally he ain't try to go at Nas and just take a shot at summer jam, but this cocky mf was feeling himself and said nah, ima go at him and kill his career. Needless to say, he got the WAKE UP CALL of a lifetime going at the GOAT. So much so, lowkey that became a Nas HIT in the streets and mainstream and everytime someone hears one second of that beat, mfs know what time it is.
@ChicagoStyles23 as I said to open my post... if we're being honest and not biased... but seems you can't do either.... I'm a 2pac fan but even I can say Ether is overrated. Superugly and blueprint2 were both better... some of you ppl HATE jay-z so much you just happy someone dissed him, even if it's mediocre... it took nas 3 verses to get to the point
@worldwiderell1812 I'm not being biased breh, the delivery was harder on ether. Agree Ye produced the better beat but that's what makes ether so special, Nas's performance carried that beat so good people forgot that the beat was mediocre and became a staple in hip hop history where when you hear the beat you automatically know what time it is.
@@ChicagoStyles23 yeah ok
Is it ochie wally wally or is it one mic / is it black girl lost or shorty owe you for ice….. Jay was spitting in that 2nd verse !
In my Japanese voice: It's ZEE GAAAME MU!😑
Takeover is a better song but Ether is a better diss!!!!!! Jay-z catalog is wayyyyyyyy better than Nas!!!!!! I'm just glad two kings came together!!!!!! Oh yeah "No Vaseline" is my favorite diss song!!!!!
Nothing in jay catalog is better than Illmatic or it was written....
Nas has the greatest album in hip-hop history ...he has the greatest diss record in hip-hop history....he has the greatest guest feature (verbal intercourse) in hip-hop history....period
Illmatic
It was written
I am (original version)
Lost tapes
Stillmatic
God son
Life is good
KD 1 and 2
Magic
KD 3 and magic 3 all
Considered classics....
You outta ya mind!
Nas got verses better than Jayz songs
Honestly I think Illmatic, it was written, I am are all classics. I listen to Jay but I dont thinks he's made a better album then those 3. It was written was more creative and lyrical then RD
@@Dabridge4009 Reasonable Doubt is a classic and the blueprint got ranked #1 album of all time in major polls and Jay-Z was #1 in a few majors too but its all opinions tho.....
The production on Blueprint was bananas and can't be matched lol!!!
@@superstarjay2371 Then listen to the instrumentals lol
When 50 diss the game was legendary
Takeover gets me amped.
Military beats
Props to Game for giving Wayne his flowers. a lot of the hip hop community doesn’t understand the influence Wayne brought to the game.
This is why his name Is the game, he has always been a student of it.
Actual facts thats why he can impersonate most rappers
@PR-WAY exactly. He is very talented artist.
This is probably the best Game interview
Hope they did Beanie Sigel vs Jadakiss 🔥
Nas is legendary but he puts you to sleep.
Exactly how I feel his music is boring
Facts
Because it is just lyrics.Jay has the total package.
Blasphemy at its finest
@@PR-WAYIllmatic is def not boring
Ether was kraxy
The best line on Ether is the Tupac sample (F Jay-Z)lol
And Tupac said this lil clown name Nas tryna be like me, talking about he left the hospital in took 5 like man.. you living fantasy I reject your deposit 😂😂😂😂😂.. matter fact he also said listen me God don’t like ugly it was written and Nas your whole damn style is written 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.. Nas a bum
“Lawnjitivity” lol
But Jay Z wrote for Dr. Dre, who have Nas wrote for
Who gives af about writing for Dr dre 😂
Nobody because Nas only got 1 style
Getting Jiggy With It-Will Smith
The topic is about who had the best Diss track.
Not who the the best ghost writer is...
Wake up dimlow
So has Nas hence the reason Dre wanted to work on The Firm Album. Know your history
After takeover dropped, the majority of fans thought Nas was finished, but did he ever comeback! Not only with ether, but with a classic album and a great promo run that totally shifted the attention from blueprint to stillmatic. Nas had also dropped stillmatic “freestyle” leading up to the blueprint version of takeover, which don’t get enough credit (stillmatic freestyle) pretty much ran through all of rocafella wit that freestyle!
Listening to Game’s music, I would have thought he liked NaS better than Hov. Hov is better than Wayne.
“Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waiting It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?/// Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big” /// Nas won in the first 2 bars. You had to be alive when the songs came out to understand the impact they had. I think Blueprint 2 might be a better diss than Takeover and is criminally underrated.
I see 😳 Nas, 50, Em 👱♂️, Jay Z, Wayne all in the same Top level. But i see Jay at the lower cause it seems like his success from his business ventures is what makes him more hot 🔥. Nas won the beef 🍖 but Jay got more successful after.
You can tell game is a student of the game a fan first and it’s cool to see him excited like that
0:31 in the 80s he was a nobody , he was back up for Big daddy Kane between shows or when Kane was resting , hawain Sophie fame , even copied his mentors name , and still funded his own album cause always been bang average
Nas is fresh off a LEGENDARY resurgence that produced albums that are arguably better than Hovs last 3 or 4
Lonjativity. Nice going Vlad
Playing Stillmatic (you got yourself a gun) album out loud against mumble rap car next to me.
Games silence on Eminem being in the convo is so loud 😂😂😂
2:19 "Tune his voice out". That's what I do with Jay-Z too.
Finally someone from the West coast admitting that Hov is the goat. Longevity and great consistent content is the key. And he’s right. Ether is one of the greatest disses ever to me. Next to No Vaseline
Nas is a top tier MC fasho, but I've always felt that Ether is overrated. Popular opinion is to say that Ether is the best diss track, when people just like how aggressive and disrespectful Nas was on that record. Jay was spitting straight facts on Takeover, while Nas was just tryna roast Jay and rocafella.
This is all based on opinion though.....
Takeover is criminally underrated
Ether >>>>>> NO debate
I vote for Jay-z!
Nas vs. Jay Z was a great memory of my childhood!!!
Common diss track gotta be top 5 at least! That’s a great diss track