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Passing game is stale and stagnant which reminds of previous years and the only constant is the HC and QB1. I would like to see Dotson with the bubble screens and drags.
As long as Sirriani is the Head Coach, I have no confidence in HIM turning this around. I believe he has lost the locker room; they are just not making it public.
Imagine the last drive in SB52 trailing the Patriots what would Nick do. He would gift wrap that SB to the Patriots and Blount would not touch the ball the whole game. Then say oh well gave out best Fire this clown!!
@@hamhockbeans we had 4 rushing touchdowns in the NFC champ game. we also had the number 1 rushing team in history 2 years ago. but yes yes we need to run the fucking ball more tho!
Yea read between the lines people “We are trying to figure it out” “once we have an identity” it’s a power struggle on the offensive playbook and Jalen isn’t on Nick’s side….
@@BEBOP3148822that was all Shane lol. Do you not remember the 2021 season? We was a heavy passing team until Shane took over and played to our strengths which was running the ball and we went from a 1-4 team to making the playoffs…
The run game is a quarterback's best friend, especially when the QB is struggling. The game planning needs improvement. The first ten scripted plays should focus on moving the football downfield to score. We haven't scored a single point in the first quarter this season, which indicates poor game planning.
That's why Steichen got hired for HC and various Coaches went with him and the same can be said for Gannon. They knew Siriani was trash and has ego issues!!!
Seems like smart fans can see this, everyone else’s takes the easy route and just blame hurts lol. I give them grace, they don’t watch the tapes 🤦🏽♂️ they say he fumbled the ball because he held on it too long 😂. Dude literally started throwing it after he avoided a sack after Barkley got beat on a pass block…
All i want is 1st down runs.. we never do until it's too late. Kick starts the offense and 2nd and 6 and 5 is better and 2nd and 10. Get nick sirianni outta here
@@mickwong6325 yea he don’t put his QB in the best position to succeed. In fact it doesn’t stop at Jalen. The defense are always out of position. As the coach who don’t even handle the details on offense and defense, he should be pointing these things out after watching game tape. He’s clueless
@@mickwong6325 yes but not only runs .hurts and goeddart are a safe bet for easy gains to move the chains. goeddart is "THE clutch go to guy" for screens and routes on the sideline. he beats the defender almost every time but either hurts doesnt find him or OC uses him too late. (against the buccs they actually found 88 more often but all the other factors broke down...keep 88 in the game!) hurts must find his mojo again..his quickness in decisionmaking and thows must come back
Here's the thing being WR3 with the Eagles and Jalen Hurts as your QB... Jalen can't read defenses...so he very seldom makes it that far down in the route tree, and it's why he holds the ball too long waiting for receivers to work themselves open as opposed to intuitively throwing them open... he can only get through his first two progressions before either scrambling or throwing a ball where it doesn't belong being thrown... 2022 Jalen didn't have to worry about going to through the progressions because the ball was leaving his hand immediately to short or intermediate routes and AJ and Smitty made plays after the catch... since we haven't had another OC recognize that's how he looked so amazing they're dropping him straight back 5-7 step drops, no boots or anything else to help with the pressure he faces and he doesn't know which route is going to win against the coverage and make that the primary route, so he waits to see who will be open instead of throwing the receiver open by putting the ball in a spot for the receiver to get it. As sucky as that is, that's exactly why you've seen a "regression" from Jalen... although it's not really a regression because he never could read defenses and the RPO protected that throughout college and his first few years in the NFL... what did he have to learn from? Carson Wentz... another dude that proved he couldn't read defenses either. At this point, his career will be at a crossroads, and someone needs to either get him a QB coach that can teach him the coverages he's looking at, and what routes should be being primaried or they need to start running an offense that suits him... short-intermediate throws and let the play makers make plays after the catch, or they'll ruin a dude that has talent and can make the throws as long as that ball leaves his hands 2.5 seconds or less... it'll slow the rush down and he'll find deeper throws as the game moves on.
You know whats scary. If the birds had Nick and Hurts in SB 52 on the last drive to get the head back in that game. Those two would gift wrap that game to the Patriots.
I disagree with you that he can’t read defenses. I agree that he does need to go back to Tom House to further his skill set. He does struggle with his decision making and ball placement sometimes post snap. Since the Super Bowl, I too have noticed that he struggles going through his progression but it appears like that when they have a two man route going. It’s either throw to the X or Y. He doesn’t need to lead the receivers open. He is more successful when he throws and makes decisions like Tom Brady/Drew Brees than Patrick Mahomes/Josh Allen. I agree with you he needs to get the ball out quicker and get more YAC yards.
@@ejjohnson8100 Show me ANY game tape after 2022 that makes you think he can read defenses... the dude literally cannot get past read two (AJ or Smitty)... his best completion rate is short/intermediate routes and his percentage drops DRAMATICALLY when he is forced to go beyond his first two reads... to the point that he's throwing interceptions and incompletions to running backs that are basically AT the line of scrimmage...All the QBs you mentioned ESPECIALLY Brady and Breeze throw to spots to lead the receivers open... Brady's entire career was made on throwing to the spot because the dude is slow af and could never scramble if he had to so his routes were all on timing and throwing receivers open instead of waiting for them to work themselves open... Brees a little less so, but definitely more so in his later years... If you wanna take shots down the field, that's fine, but do it after you have stopped the rush through quick passes and force the defense to play single high because they need to keep more defenders in the box and use the running game, especially with Saquon there... force the defense to put 8 dudes in the box and you'll have your deep throws... a QB that knows how to read defenses would be looking for those routes, not the homerun ball all the time.
Fire Nick please he isn't helping the team. He's holding us back with his high-school lvl offense. He isn't doing his job. My life experience is that you don't do your job you get removed.
I do think Nick needs to go but the offense is Kellen Moores not Sirianis. How do you pass over kliff Kingsbury who's a proven winner and hire Kellen Moore who is a proven loser? That hire completely baffles me.
I just watched Kirk Cousins shred the Bucs defense without much of a run game, lack of motion and limited under center plays for 509 passing yards. Hurts cannot anticipate breaks by WR’s and take a long time to process coverages. It’s the QB 🤷🏽♂️
@@iceberggslim22Stop it. Yeah Hurts hasn't played great, but the Eagles probably have the worst designed offensive plays in the league. Same as last year all over again, relying on freelancing receivers to beat out the DBs. Watch tape of when Shane Steichen was the OC, way more creative plays
I see some fans saying we play 4 bottom tier teams after the bye... Well I hate to break it to those fans but we are in that bottom tier and have been since late last year
I think that’s more to do with coaching. You always hear Nick talk about how the passing game runs through Aj ,Devonte , and Godert . They pretty much coach hurts to look at those 3 and no one else
@@matttig It’s not so much as being comfortable, the plays aren’t designed to go to him. The plays look like they only have two main routes, and everyone else is running a dummy route. A lot of people get on here and think that he can’t read defensive coverages buts when the play is only designed to two people, it’s going to look like that.
Dotson is smaller shifty type of WR u must read the defense he’s probably not playing well but Hurts can’t read the defense a waste of a 3rd round pick
Every sign points to Sirianni being the problem. The Super Bowl season was down to the coordinators, not Sirianni. The good aspects in the first 2/3 games were down to Moore calling decent/solid games. We all saw Sirianni repeatedly passing on 3 points with Elliott and ended up with nothing. Promote Moore and pick up a pash rusher, this with the weak on paper schedule, should fill up the win column.
speaking of home. it sounds like an easy excuse but the NFL did us really dirty , brazil, louisiana and florida (during peak heat and humidity time) in 4 weeks. one lost "home"game in the jungle quick stops in philly back and fourth with the most tropical humidity and hot weather . no chance to aclimate properly in a timezone. that was never done in 4 weeks and 4 sure drained the bodies now they have the normal rhythm again
After 60 + years, the last 11 Eagles games have killed my love for football . Last week was almost funny, 3 Stooges level play w no effort. Fire Nick .
Nick has got to go. This team going 2-9 over the last 11 games with the talent we have is inexcusable. Making it to a superbowl doesn't mean anything thing to me. Doug Pederson won one and the front office still fired him. How can siriannis job be so safe is beyond me.
To be fair, Dougie could have come back, but he wanted his guys and the front office want having it, so since they couldn't come to terms, he was let go.
@@KK-eg3em That's exactly why things are the way they are - this is Lurie & Rosemans mess. They chose the f'n music, now they gotta dance... And here we are...
We’re 2-2 we beat the possible superBowl contender teams and loss to the possible first round exists👌🏾 had it not been for the fumble against the packers at the end it would’ve been a 29-38 game the most we put up when healthy! We’re honestly a 3-1 team had it not been for the saquon drop! Why are we panicking? We have the best offense on paper and a slightly upgraded defense from last year! If Jalen cleans up and we stick to the run game! We can easily out score every team! even if the defense has a bad game! Did the falcons and saints honestly stand a chance if AJ and played? Tampa was our first bad game all around! That can be fixed and adjusted! I’ve been impressed by the defense the first 3 games we showed who we could be when consistent!
I don’t understand how you can watch this team look like the exact same team from last year and not be concerned. Eagles fans spent the entire season last year saying we won and reality is we could’ve lost every game last year. Sirianni being involved in the offense should be cause for concern.
@@jus8463 i do feel like losing early will change things around like last year when we were winning games looking like complete shit id we will see its still a lot of football left before we panic
We're panicking cause we are still having the same issues on offense and defense as last year... Jalen not going through his progessions... No pocket awareness... Turnovers.... And the corners playing 15yds off the wide outs.... No in game adjustments... Stinks of last year bro... Would you really be surprised if after the bye we come out and look flat and get beat by teams like the browns??? Cause I won't be shocked at all
@@jus8463 i can say the same thing for the chiefs this year they’re winning ugly every game! They don’t get a pass just because there champions! It’s no way in hell u can think this is the same team from last year lol
I don't see why people are worried. We were facing a really good team on the road without our 3 starting wrs and out best o linemen. I feel we are downplaying the loss of AJ DeVonta Covey and Lane way too much. you can't expect an offense to look good when they loose 4 of their starters. Even on defense we've suffered injuries. At the beginning of training camp we lost DeJean and had to move Quinyon to nickel. Then on the last day of camp we lose Rodgers then we have to move Quinyon back outside and put Maddox, who had been playing safety all camp, to nickel. After the bye I wouldn't be surprised to see major improvement on both sides of the ball, since by then we'll be 100% healthy, and hopefully the players will have fully grasped the schemes.
@@KK-eg3em yeah kind of but there's also a lot of injuries on both sides of the ball, and its only week 4 and the players are trying to learn the schemes, which are really hard schemes to learn.
I think Chris long has the best take on the past game. The start (bunch of 3& outs) exhausted the def against a team who has the birds number in 105 deg heat. Eagles couldn't get going until they did and then turned the ball over.
I honestly dont think we got fleeced with Jahan. He wasn't supposed to come here and put up 1000 yards. Also we've had problems getting production from the third receiver for years, even Dallas has had trouble seeing the ball thrown his way. At some point you have to look at the constants and realize its not necessarily the third receivers fault.
The interior OL pass blocking has been pretty bad since week 1. I don’t know why everyone refuses to ever criticize the OL lol they’ve given up a ton of quick pressure the past 3 games
If back-ups are not usable then why have them on the team? Everyone refers to the schedule coming up being easy, based on the play of this team that is questionable.
I dont think he got fleeced in the dotson trade. 1) Jalen just doesnt throw his way, even when he is open. Maybe trust or something else. 2) seems like he isnt schemed into the offense. Only seems like 1 or 2 guys/routes are meant to get open. Nick himself said offense runs through smitty and aj and the 3rd receiver is unfairly evaluated.
Well the Eagles weren't playing to win or Saquon would have had 20 more touches. We were just trying to go into the bye week healthy as possible. You could tell by the play calling that there was no urgency to win the game or to actually try.
Referring to the comment that Nick said about the car. That’s how accidents happen when your not letting the driver drive the damn vehicle smh please let Kellen coach
Jalen rarely looks for a third receiver. Zaccheus was open a ton of times last year and Jalen bypassed or missed him. The Eagles should work their offense from the inside out giving Jalen quick options in the middle of the field. We need more slants, curls and crossing routes. Jalen should work short route to long route not long route to short route. 4 verticals is not a good strategy for Hurts. He has to get out of looking for the big play and take the underneath stuff.
Sirianni needs to relinquish any play-calling to Moore. You can almost guarantee that he's completely impeding whatever Moore does, even though he says that he's letting "Moore drive the car".
Great analysis! Glad you break down the problems with coverage and that the unit not playing together matters…along with defense being a big problem…owner needs to tell Sirianni to stay away from the offense. He just doesn’t get it and it’s killing the good chemistry Jalen and Kellen have with each other
The Eagles are 2-2 and could easily be 3-1 if not for that 3rd down play vs Falcons. $9ers have injuries , Dallas is Dallas and we are just getting through the first quarter of the season with 3 major players having injuries . Everyone Relax..Classic Eagle fan overreaction .
No discipline! No effort! No accountability! No leadership! No identity! Their effort in 10 of the last 11 games is PATHETIC! Their record doesn’t matter. This team reflects their head coach: WEAK, SOFT!!!
Crazy how the media makes any and all excuses for Hurts. I get it, it probably isn't good for ratings if you criticize the qb we just gave all that money to but at some point call a spade a spade. Hurts holds onto the ball to long, has slow arm action, is inaccurate and can't get through his reads and if you know any football you see it in every game.
Man why has nobody talked about how Todd Bowles is Jalen Hurts’ kryptonite. Todd has always had the gameplan against hurts and nobody wants to mention that.
I’m at about a 5 on the worry scale. Before the season, I said they would start 2-3 but put it together after that and become one of the best teams in football. I didn’t think they would look this list though
The coaches need to look at Detroit and Baltimore's offense since they are based around the run game. The Eagles are 2-2 and the next four games are against bad teams. If they lose two of those games then ditch Nick and promote Kellen Moore. Do not hire old ass Belicheck no matter how many people cry for it. Remember Hurts is turning over the ball, not the coaches. There is plenty of blame to go around.
Dude deserves the chance to turn this team into winners, if he can't do it now we gotta try to find the guy next season. there is too much talent on this team to be.500
I’ve defended Sirianni all these years, but he’s gotta make major changes.. If we’re gonna turn it around we’ve gotta feed our playmakers & play good defense man! Play more man & blitz more for starters. Hurts has to take care of the ball & play like he did at the end of the Saints game, that was the Hurts I fell in love with
The same people who blame Urban Meyer for the record number of Turnovers Trevor Lawerence had are now the same people who say Sirianni has nothing to do with Hurts turnovers
What’s the point of bringing in Moore if Nick is just going to take control anyway? This is no longer a head coach issue it’s an owner issue for keeping this man here when WE ALL can see it
I don't get how fans are complaining about Dotson w/ this mess of an offense right now. It starts w/ play calling and Jalen's execution. It's as simple as that.
It's really all on Jalen. He's the reason Goedert doesn't get involved as much as he should. Dotson has been open plenty, Jalen just doesn't throw him the ball.
Hmmm, on a scale of one to ten… I’d say -5… If we do make the playoffs, we’ll have, somehow, failed our way into it. I have no faith in this team, or the coaching staff, on turning this around.
On three of the plays Baldie analyzed, (i.e. the one where he said Dickerson and Jurgens were protecting grass), if Hurts had run the ball there was yardage to be had in stead of two fumbles.
Personally, I'm not very confident they can turn into a real contender this year. They have a lot of talent but the coaching philosophy doesn't seem to suit the players. We were talking about the EXACT same thing last year when they went on their run from hell. But here we are again, having the same problems. Like, literally the same problems. I'm getting flashbacks while typing this. We can all speculate on what the problem is but we'll really never know what's going on behind the scenes. Coaching, players, who knows, it could be anything. But, either way, it's SO incredibly frustrating seeing the same things that lost us all of those games last year STILL happening. Ugh, I really hope they turn it around. I think they'll have their moments of everything coming together and dominating but they won't be able to do it as often as they need to to win the SB. They'll probably have a few more of these klunkers...Let's hope not. It could be worse. At least, at a minimum, you know there's a chance that we play a solid game. Some have it worse..look at the Jaguars. They're hopeless.
Honestly, I blame Hurts right now. He never takes the quick short throws in the middle of the field. Also, the fact that he hasn't been able to get the ball to Dotson is on him.
It is Kellen moores offense the problem is it’s dumbed down for hurts lol! Even Sirianni offense was dumb down for hurts he had no issues running it with Philip rivers.
@@reneegolovacha1880 have to follow the bread crumbs. Sirianni offense is derived from mike McCoy who was the head coach of the then San Diego chargers where Philip rivers had his best statistical seasons as a QB which had no motion by the way and had the QB get rid of the ball quick something hurts cannot do. Point #2 the all 22 reveals all missed reads constantly and never goes through progression this was obvious last hence Aj brown’s frustration go back and watch the Vikings and Seahawks game last year. #3 the reason Sirianni looks foolish post game is he constantly falling on the sword for Hurts ultimately we have a athlete that’s masquerading as a QB and not a QB first.
I think we all need to relax a bit. I know everyone calls outs the offense and defense but please. Wait till your full offense is whole to where you can see Dotson be the third man like he was brought in to be. Then allow Jalen to be more comfortable because people aren’t doing roles they normally aren’t meant for like exact route for bigger players for more shiftier smaller players. Just give it time. Offense will be okay. Pls tell fangio to play some man. My goodnessss😤
Kellen Moore has always produced highly efficient offenses in Dallas and with the Chargers. Suddenly he arrives in Philly and we see this mess? I know Hurts is struggling, but could it be that he’s struggling due to trying to learn Moore’s offense in the preseason but since the regular season has started Sirianni is meddling with it??? Remove Hurts - Eagles still struggle in a sporadic offense. Remove Sirianni - The entire team’s energy will lift and Hurts will settle into precisely what he saw in Moore’s playbook and the Eagles take off. Howie, as good as he is at acquiring talent, maneuvering the draft and handling the budget; is just like Jerry Jones when it comes to hiring head coaches (Lurie gives him too much autonomy here IMO)..both hire “yes men” types. I said it when Pederson stepped down: Hire Duce Staley!! He is sharp, would’ve brought an old school toughness to the team, and while professional and cooperative is definitely NOT a “yes man.” He has more leadership in his pinky than practically every member of the present Eagles coaching staff. The players intensity, grit, attention to detail, tenacity and level of play and consistency would be immediately evident. Sirianni laid a poor foundation with easy overly player friendly preseason camps, buddying up to the veterans in front of the rookies and younger players, not playing starters at all for the entire preseason, getting too emotionally involved in the game like a Fan (needing Big Dom to keep him under control), implementing a basic high school level offense, etc Hurts deserves some of the blame, but the quiet cancer in that locker room is the HC. IMO
I have 0 confidence the offense can turn it around. Theyll get better when AJ and Smith come back, but they wont be right. Theyve been trying to get right since the beginning of last year
Has anyone questioned Jalen Hurts' intelligence? Maybe he's not smart enough to run an NFL offense. Shane Steichen had to dumb down the offense in 2022 because he wasn't comprehending it. Or could it be time for the Eagles to move off of Jalen? Get rid of Nick, Kellen, and Vic. Bring in Vrabel and whoever then trade Jalen to the Colts.
Teams need to start fearing Saquon so our play action open up things down field.....give Saquon the ball in more traditional running formations so defenses bite on the fake. I hate the option handoffs with Barkley standing next to Hurts.
Eagles have an identity, its pass first to open up the run. Sirianni has said it multiple times the problem is the identity should be run first. Not to mention the coach has built a culture of subpar standards, the sloppiness of how every facet of the game is playing is ridiculous!
I don't think Howie got fleeced on Dotson our offense is not using him right we just don't look like we're playing hard and believing Nick is loosing the locker room
Golden Tate was acquired for a 3rd pk & was not targeted. Same BS with Dotson & to say Roseman wiffed & threw away a 3rd & 2 7ths is an over statement along with poor judgment. He needs to be included in game plan. Look at Dallas when Moore was there ALL 3 Wrs were incorporated in game plan & productive along with Te & rb all the weapons were used. Nick needs to get his hands off & let Moore do his thing. This is not on Roseman or Dotson.
I said it after the Tampa game... This is Siri's offense. WR's are just streaking down the field again. I'm seeing almost no crossers. It's either straight down the field or hook routes... especially on obvious blitzing downs. This offense is not creative at all. When we're on offense the defense never questions what's coming... and vice versa when we're on defensive. This team is predictable to a tee.
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It could be better,ok
I still have optimism, but Kellen should have full control. Nick should oversee, but that's it. Because his decisions are hurting the team.
I’m worried about Jalen and I think Nick needs to go. Also, kinda worried about the defense. 🤦🏽♀️
I'm gonna wait until at least Week 8 to really evaluate this_ but it will be VERY INTERESTING to see the dynamics of our offense once our STARS are back on the field🧐🧐We're going to learn quite a bit about our Birds next Sunday...
Passing game is stale and stagnant which reminds of previous years and the only constant is the HC and QB1. I would like to see Dotson with the bubble screens and drags.
As long as Sirriani is the Head Coach, I have no confidence in HIM turning this around. I believe he has lost the locker room; they are just not making it public.
He lost the locker room last year, it was stupid to bring him back.
Imagine the last drive in SB52 trailing the Patriots what would Nick do. He would gift wrap that SB to the Patriots and Blount would not touch the ball the whole game. Then say oh well gave out best Fire this clown!!
@@hamhockbeans we had 4 rushing touchdowns in the NFC champ game. we also had the number 1 rushing team in history 2 years ago. but yes yes we need to run the fucking ball more tho!
Yea read between the lines people “We are trying to figure it out” “once we have an identity” it’s a power struggle on the offensive playbook and Jalen isn’t on Nick’s side….
@@BEBOP3148822that was all Shane lol. Do you not remember the 2021 season? We was a heavy passing team until Shane took over and played to our strengths which was running the ball and we went from a 1-4 team to making the playoffs…
The run game is a quarterback's best friend, especially when the QB is struggling. The game planning needs improvement. The first ten scripted plays should focus on moving the football downfield to score. We haven't scored a single point in the first quarter this season, which indicates poor game planning.
That's why Steichen got hired for HC and various Coaches went with him and the same can be said for Gannon. They knew Siriani was trash and has ego issues!!!
Seems like smart fans can see this, everyone else’s takes the easy route and just blame hurts lol. I give them grace, they don’t watch the tapes 🤦🏽♂️ they say he fumbled the ball because he held on it too long 😂. Dude literally started throwing it after he avoided a sack after Barkley got beat on a pass block…
All i want is 1st down runs.. we never do until it's too late. Kick starts the offense and 2nd and 6 and 5 is better and 2nd and 10. Get nick sirianni outta here
@@mickwong6325 yea he don’t put his QB in the best position to succeed. In fact it doesn’t stop at Jalen. The defense are always out of position. As the coach who don’t even handle the details on offense and defense, he should be pointing these things out after watching game tape. He’s clueless
@@mickwong6325 yes but not only runs .hurts and goeddart are a safe bet for easy gains to move the chains.
goeddart is "THE clutch go to guy" for screens and routes on the sideline. he beats the defender almost every time but either hurts doesnt find him or OC uses him too late. (against the buccs they actually found 88 more often but all the other factors broke down...keep 88 in the game!)
hurts must find his mojo again..his quickness in decisionmaking and thows must come back
Here's the thing being WR3 with the Eagles and Jalen Hurts as your QB... Jalen can't read defenses...so he very seldom makes it that far down in the route tree, and it's why he holds the ball too long waiting for receivers to work themselves open as opposed to intuitively throwing them open... he can only get through his first two progressions before either scrambling or throwing a ball where it doesn't belong being thrown... 2022 Jalen didn't have to worry about going to through the progressions because the ball was leaving his hand immediately to short or intermediate routes and AJ and Smitty made plays after the catch... since we haven't had another OC recognize that's how he looked so amazing they're dropping him straight back 5-7 step drops, no boots or anything else to help with the pressure he faces and he doesn't know which route is going to win against the coverage and make that the primary route, so he waits to see who will be open instead of throwing the receiver open by putting the ball in a spot for the receiver to get it. As sucky as that is, that's exactly why you've seen a "regression" from Jalen... although it's not really a regression because he never could read defenses and the RPO protected that throughout college and his first few years in the NFL... what did he have to learn from? Carson Wentz... another dude that proved he couldn't read defenses either. At this point, his career will be at a crossroads, and someone needs to either get him a QB coach that can teach him the coverages he's looking at, and what routes should be being primaried or they need to start running an offense that suits him... short-intermediate throws and let the play makers make plays after the catch, or they'll ruin a dude that has talent and can make the throws as long as that ball leaves his hands 2.5 seconds or less... it'll slow the rush down and he'll find deeper throws as the game moves on.
You know whats scary. If the birds had Nick and Hurts in SB 52 on the last drive to get the head back in that game. Those two would gift wrap that game to the Patriots.
I disagree with you that he can’t read defenses. I agree that he does need to go back to Tom House to further his skill set. He does struggle with his decision making and ball placement sometimes post snap. Since the Super Bowl, I too have noticed that he struggles going through his progression but it appears like that when they have a two man route going. It’s either throw to the X or Y. He doesn’t need to lead the receivers open. He is more successful when he throws and makes decisions like Tom Brady/Drew Brees than Patrick Mahomes/Josh Allen. I agree with you he needs to get the ball out quicker and get more YAC yards.
@@ejjohnson8100 Tom House works on mechanics. Jalen's problem is between his ears. Nobody can help that except Jalen himself.
Bring in Andy dalton to help Jalen
@@ejjohnson8100 Show me ANY game tape after 2022 that makes you think he can read defenses... the dude literally cannot get past read two (AJ or Smitty)... his best completion rate is short/intermediate routes and his percentage drops DRAMATICALLY when he is forced to go beyond his first two reads... to the point that he's throwing interceptions and incompletions to running backs that are basically AT the line of scrimmage...All the QBs you mentioned ESPECIALLY Brady and Breeze throw to spots to lead the receivers open... Brady's entire career was made on throwing to the spot because the dude is slow af and could never scramble if he had to so his routes were all on timing and throwing receivers open instead of waiting for them to work themselves open... Brees a little less so, but definitely more so in his later years... If you wanna take shots down the field, that's fine, but do it after you have stopped the rush through quick passes and force the defense to play single high because they need to keep more defenders in the box and use the running game, especially with Saquon there... force the defense to put 8 dudes in the box and you'll have your deep throws... a QB that knows how to read defenses would be looking for those routes, not the homerun ball all the time.
Fire Nick please he isn't helping the team. He's holding us back with his high-school lvl offense. He isn't doing his job. My life experience is that you don't do your job you get removed.
He would be a great high-school coach come coach my school and we would learn
Maybe his offense is hs because his qb is supremely limited
I do think Nick needs to go but the offense is Kellen Moores not Sirianis. How do you pass over kliff Kingsbury who's a proven winner and hire Kellen Moore who is a proven loser? That hire completely baffles me.
I just watched Kirk Cousins shred the Bucs defense without much of a run game, lack of motion and limited under center plays for 509 passing yards. Hurts cannot anticipate breaks by WR’s and take a long time to process coverages. It’s the QB 🤷🏽♂️
@@iceberggslim22Stop it. Yeah Hurts hasn't played great, but the Eagles probably have the worst designed offensive plays in the league. Same as last year all over again, relying on freelancing receivers to beat out the DBs. Watch tape of when Shane Steichen was the OC, way more creative plays
Bro, as Eagles fans, we don't have the right to make fun of nobody team right now when our team is 1 play away from being in shambles 😂
I see some fans saying we play 4 bottom tier teams after the bye... Well I hate to break it to those fans but we are in that bottom tier and have been since late last year
@@ryancampbell1847 agreed 👍
Also one play from being 3-1.
@@lonetrout you don't see the bigger picture
I think we aren’t Using Dotson because Hurts is only comfortable passing the ball to Brown and Smitty. I think this is another one of Hurts downfalls.
He can't read defenses or go through reads to get to a 3rd wr
I think that’s more to do with coaching. You always hear Nick talk about how the passing game runs through Aj ,Devonte , and Godert . They pretty much coach hurts to look at those 3 and no one else
@@matttig It’s not so much as being comfortable, the plays aren’t designed to go to him. The plays look like they only have two main routes, and everyone else is running a dummy route. A lot of people get on here and think that he can’t read defensive coverages buts when the play is only designed to two people, it’s going to look like that.
Dotson is smaller shifty type of WR u must read the defense he’s probably not playing well but Hurts can’t read the defense a waste of a 3rd round pick
Hurts threw to 7 different receivers last week, what are you talking about?
Idk what it is, but in my head and deep in my heart I never left the 2022 season. It was just (nearly) perfect till the end, like a romantic drama👀💚
Every sign points to Sirianni being the problem. The Super Bowl season was down to the coordinators, not Sirianni. The good aspects in the first 2/3 games were down to Moore calling decent/solid games. We all saw Sirianni repeatedly passing on 3 points with Elliott and ended up with nothing. Promote Moore and pick up a pash rusher, this with the weak on paper schedule, should fill up the win column.
If we look bad at home against Cleveland we have to seriously consider making changes and that starts with the head coach!!
speaking of home. it sounds like an easy excuse but the NFL did us really dirty , brazil, louisiana and florida (during peak heat and humidity time) in 4 weeks. one lost "home"game in the jungle
quick stops in philly back and fourth with the most tropical humidity and hot weather . no chance to aclimate properly in a timezone.
that was never done in 4 weeks and 4 sure drained the bodies
now they have the normal rhythm again
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Lol...Office scene wss perfect there (Michael driving into the pond). Eagles' offense is definitely at Threat Level Midnight! 🤦🏼
Siriannis fingerprints are still all over this offense.
i was about to say something similar things are really reminiscent of last season. i honestly would like doug pederson back.
Why why why Nick is trash
I know one thing! Brian Johnson got washington looking pretty good smh,nick Gotta go
@@rjturner8591stop it...kliff Kingsbury is Washington's oc...so stop saying bozo Brian Johnson is when he's a qb coach
If so and that the reason I can’t wait to see him off 🫡
After 60 + years, the last 11 Eagles games have killed my love for football . Last week was almost funny, 3 Stooges level play w no effort. Fire Nick .
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Nick has got to go.
This team going 2-9 over the last 11 games with the talent we have is inexcusable.
Making it to a superbowl doesn't mean anything thing to me. Doug Pederson won one and the front office still fired him. How can siriannis job be so safe is beyond me.
I feel the same way
To be fair, Dougie could have come back, but he wanted his guys and the front office want having it, so since they couldn't come to terms, he was let go.
@@KK-eg3em That's exactly why things are the way they are - this is Lurie & Rosemans mess. They chose the f'n music, now they gotta dance...
And here we are...
We’re 2-2 we beat the possible superBowl contender teams and loss to the possible first round exists👌🏾 had it not been for the fumble against the packers at the end it would’ve been a 29-38 game the most we put up when healthy! We’re honestly a 3-1 team had it not been for the saquon drop!
Why are we panicking?
We have the best offense on paper and a slightly upgraded defense from last year!
If Jalen cleans up and we stick to the run game! We can easily out score every team! even if the defense has a bad game! Did the falcons and saints honestly stand a chance if AJ and played? Tampa was our first bad game all around! That can be fixed and adjusted! I’ve been impressed by the defense the first 3 games we showed who we could be when consistent!
I don’t understand how you can watch this team look like the exact same team from last year and not be concerned. Eagles fans spent the entire season last year saying we won and reality is we could’ve lost every game last year. Sirianni being involved in the offense should be cause for concern.
@@jus8463 i do feel like losing early will change things around like last year when we were winning games looking like complete shit id we will see its still a lot of football left before we panic
We're panicking cause we are still having the same issues on offense and defense as last year... Jalen not going through his progessions... No pocket awareness... Turnovers.... And the corners playing 15yds off the wide outs.... No in game adjustments... Stinks of last year bro... Would you really be surprised if after the bye we come out and look flat and get beat by teams like the browns??? Cause I won't be shocked at all
@@jus8463I completely agree... I think some fans are just so blinded by fandom they refuse to see the issues.. cause this team stinks of last year
@@jus8463 i can say the same thing for the chiefs this year they’re winning ugly every game! They don’t get a pass just because there champions! It’s no way in hell u can think this is the same team from last year lol
I don't see why people are worried. We were facing a really good team on the road without our 3 starting wrs and out best o linemen. I feel we are downplaying the loss of AJ DeVonta Covey and Lane way too much. you can't expect an offense to look good when they loose 4 of their starters. Even on defense we've suffered injuries. At the beginning of training camp we lost DeJean and had to move Quinyon to nickel. Then on the last day of camp we lose Rodgers then we have to move Quinyon back outside and put Maddox, who had been playing safety all camp, to nickel. After the bye I wouldn't be surprised to see major improvement on both sides of the ball, since by then we'll be 100% healthy, and hopefully the players will have fully grasped the schemes.
It's because of this teams history for the past year. They are playing the exact same way.
@@KK-eg3em yeah kind of but there's also a lot of injuries on both sides of the ball, and its only week 4 and the players are trying to learn the schemes, which are really hard schemes to learn.
@@KK-eg3em and again its unreasonable to expect a team to look elite when they loose 4 offensive starters, and 3 of them were skill position players.
I think Chris long has the best take on the past game. The start (bunch of 3& outs) exhausted the def against a team who has the birds number in 105 deg heat. Eagles couldn't get going until they did and then turned the ball over.
Yeah his show after the game he made so many great points.
"Let Run it" gives me the Chill when you say it
“Chills” might be glaze brother😂
You probably edge yourself to his intro huh?
I honestly dont think we got fleeced with Jahan. He wasn't supposed to come here and put up 1000 yards. Also we've had problems getting production from the third receiver for years, even Dallas has had trouble seeing the ball thrown his way. At some point you have to look at the constants and realize its not necessarily the third receivers fault.
I dunno a 3rd round pick beein in top 75 we could have a gotten a solid player there... Well see how it plays out but right now we got fleeced..
@@ryancampbell1847Let me ask you something: Did you expect A.J. AND SMITTY to NOT be available for us before our bye week came up??🧐🧐
The interior OL pass blocking has been pretty bad since week 1. I don’t know why everyone refuses to ever criticize the OL lol they’ve given up a ton of quick pressure the past 3 games
I’m not worried about any of this. Let’s just see what we look like healthy again. Winning cures all!
If back-ups are not usable then why have them on the team? Everyone refers to the schedule coming up being easy, based on the play of this team that is questionable.
Facts I can see us losing the next 4….and then we have Dallas (who always have our number) ravens etc…not looking good
We don’t need no new receivers, the coaches if the coaches won’t use them and put them in position.
I dont think he got fleeced in the dotson trade. 1) Jalen just doesnt throw his way, even when he is open. Maybe trust or something else. 2) seems like he isnt schemed into the offense. Only seems like 1 or 2 guys/routes are meant to get open. Nick himself said offense runs through smitty and aj and the 3rd receiver is unfairly evaluated.
I don’t understand the whole trust thing lol if he doesnt get opportunities how are you going to build trust 🤦🏽♂️
Na bro top 75 player in the draft will produce and should... As of right now it's not looking good
Great stuff Josh! Got to see the Linc for the first time Monday, wish it had been after a dub💀
We don’t need no new receivers, if the coaches won’t use them and put them in position. And Nick hates running the ball . Same problem from last year
THERES NO ROAD HERE MICHAEL!!!! Amazing Josh! love the office reference on siriani driving this team to its doom lol
Haha had to! 😂
At the end of the day, the issue is this doesn't resemble a playoff/superbowl team.
And we were promised that.
BE PATIENT and hold your thoughts till at least Week 12- This is a MARATHON.. not a sprint!!!💯💯
Well the Eagles weren't playing to win or Saquon would have had 20 more touches. We were just trying to go into the bye week healthy as possible. You could tell by the play calling that there was no urgency to win the game or to actually try.
I can’t help but be optimistic and think that the Eagles will bounce back once they get their starters healthy after the bye.
Referring to the comment that Nick said about the car. That’s how accidents happen when your not letting the driver drive the damn vehicle smh please let Kellen coach
Until this team invests in an actual head coach and a schematic play caller like Kyle, Matt and Sean we're just wasting talent.
Tru
But like who? As in who’s available, you gotta think
@starshipgang i hear you but i have a couple of coaches for the off season not in season
@@starshipgangafter the season's over maybe Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik would be an upgrade
And if we want another "big picture/culture setter" but that can actually do his job maybe Mike Bravel or even Bill Belichick
Jalen rarely looks for a third receiver. Zaccheus was open a ton of times last year and Jalen bypassed or missed him. The Eagles should work their offense from the inside out giving Jalen quick options in the middle of the field. We need more slants, curls and crossing routes. Jalen should work short route to long route not long route to short route. 4 verticals is not a good strategy for Hurts. He has to get out of looking for the big play and take the underneath stuff.
Maybe he can't read defenses
I miss 2022. We be up 31 point in 2nd Quarter.
That Michael and Dwight clip was perfect 😂
Sirianni needs to relinquish any play-calling to Moore. You can almost guarantee that he's completely impeding whatever Moore does, even though he says that he's letting "Moore drive the car".
Lol😂 Josh Nick is driving this team right into the Lake!! So funny, that’s part of the reason you’re videos are so good
I give it an 8 in turning it around only because they might be able to reset with an early bye week.
Our defense looked good vs the saints, we need that plus more. I’m about 7.5 sure we will turn it around
Oh, they'll turn it around - there's a beginning and subsequent end to everything. In this case, it's just "how" and "when"... and at what cost...
Great analysis! Glad you break down the problems with coverage and that the unit not playing together matters…along with defense being a big problem…owner needs to tell Sirianni to stay away from the offense. He just doesn’t get it and it’s killing the good chemistry Jalen and Kellen have with each other
The Eagles are 2-2 and could easily be 3-1 if not for that 3rd down play vs Falcons. $9ers have injuries , Dallas is Dallas and we are just getting through the first quarter of the season with 3 major players having injuries . Everyone Relax..Classic Eagle fan overreaction .
Lets be real, the eagles could easily be 0-4 or 1-3 as well.
No discipline! No effort! No accountability! No leadership! No identity!
Their effort in 10 of the last 11 games is PATHETIC!
Their record doesn’t matter. This team reflects their head coach: WEAK, SOFT!!!
Crazy how the media makes any and all excuses for Hurts. I get it, it probably isn't good for ratings if you criticize the qb we just gave all that money to but at some point call a spade a spade. Hurts holds onto the ball to long, has slow arm action, is inaccurate and can't get through his reads and if you know any football you see it in every game.
Every time I hear Hurts and Sirianni talk in a press conference is like I’m listening to KJP
Man why has nobody talked about how Todd Bowles is Jalen Hurts’ kryptonite. Todd has always had the gameplan against hurts and nobody wants to mention that.
I’m at about a 5 on the worry scale. Before the season, I said they would start 2-3 but put it together after that and become one of the best teams in football. I didn’t think they would look this list though
I say Jeffery sits with nick and tells him to leave Kellan alone let him run the offensive or your gone officially
The coaches need to look at Detroit and Baltimore's offense since they are based around the run game. The Eagles are 2-2 and the next four games are against bad teams. If they lose two of those games then ditch Nick and promote Kellen Moore. Do not hire old ass Belicheck no matter how many people cry for it. Remember Hurts is turning over the ball, not the coaches. There is plenty of blame to go around.
If the eagle doesn’t make any change and improvements ,I’m done 😢
Dude deserves the chance to turn this team into winners, if he can't do it now we gotta try to find the guy next season. there is too much talent on this team to be.500
Another great video💥🔥🦅
@@flybirdsfly2091 thanks!!
I’ve defended Sirianni all these years, but he’s gotta make major changes.. If we’re gonna turn it around we’ve gotta feed our playmakers & play good defense man! Play more man & blitz more for starters. Hurts has to take care of the ball & play like he did at the end of the Saints game, that was the Hurts I fell in love with
The same people who blame Urban Meyer for the record number of Turnovers Trevor Lawerence had are now the same people who say Sirianni has nothing to do with Hurts turnovers
3:55 of course Dotson had highest separation, they didn’t even need to cover him 😂
What’s the point of bringing in Moore if Nick is just going to take control anyway? This is no longer a head coach issue it’s an owner issue for keeping this man here when WE ALL can see it
I don't get how fans are complaining about Dotson w/ this mess of an offense right now. It starts w/ play calling and Jalen's execution. It's as simple as that.
It's really all on Jalen. He's the reason Goedert doesn't get involved as much as he should. Dotson has been open plenty, Jalen just doesn't throw him the ball.
“We gotta figure us out” 😂
We shouldn’t have an identity issue run the ball
Right. F that identity crap. Just try harder and win.
It's stunning... and with an offensive line that could grade f'n road surfaces and an all-world running back. It's inexcusable...
Great Video! ❤ Thank you for Sharing! 🙏🏻 Be Blessed! 🕊
Thanks!! 🙏🏼
Sirianni needs to get completely away from the office. Make this ABUNDANTLY clear Howie!!!
I don’t know how Howie and the owner Laurie can sit on their hands for two Super Bowl favorites seasons for Nick Siriani to throw it away like this??
Great take on this bro! On point
Thanks!
I see you hitting the gym 💪🏻
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Hmmm, on a scale of one to ten…
I’d say -5… If we do make the playoffs, we’ll have, somehow, failed our way into it.
I have no faith in this team, or the coaching staff, on turning this around.
On three of the plays Baldie analyzed, (i.e. the one where he said Dickerson and Jurgens were protecting grass), if Hurts had run the ball there was yardage to be had in stead of two fumbles.
Personally, I'm not very confident they can turn into a real contender this year. They have a lot of talent but the coaching philosophy doesn't seem to suit the players. We were talking about the EXACT same thing last year when they went on their run from hell. But here we are again, having the same problems. Like, literally the same problems. I'm getting flashbacks while typing this. We can all speculate on what the problem is but we'll really never know what's going on behind the scenes. Coaching, players, who knows, it could be anything. But, either way, it's SO incredibly frustrating seeing the same things that lost us all of those games last year STILL happening. Ugh, I really hope they turn it around. I think they'll have their moments of everything coming together and dominating but they won't be able to do it as often as they need to to win the SB. They'll probably have a few more of these klunkers...Let's hope not. It could be worse. At least, at a minimum, you know there's a chance that we play a solid game. Some have it worse..look at the Jaguars. They're hopeless.
How does everyone on this planet know that all the eagles need to do is RUN THE DAMN BALL! RUN IT
Honestly, I blame Hurts right now. He never takes the quick short throws in the middle of the field. Also, the fact that he hasn't been able to get the ball to Dotson is on him.
It is Kellen moores offense the problem is it’s dumbed down for hurts lol! Even Sirianni offense was dumb down for hurts he had no issues running it with Philip rivers.
I have heard that. Why? And do we know if this is true? Because I do believe Hurts is a big part of the problem.
@@reneegolovacha1880 have to follow the bread crumbs. Sirianni offense is derived from mike McCoy who was the head coach of the then San Diego chargers where Philip rivers had his best statistical seasons as a QB which had no motion by the way and had the QB get rid of the ball quick something hurts cannot do. Point #2 the all 22 reveals all missed reads constantly and never goes through progression this was obvious last hence Aj brown’s frustration go back and watch the Vikings and Seahawks game last year. #3 the reason Sirianni looks foolish post game is he constantly falling on the sword for Hurts ultimately we have a athlete that’s masquerading as a QB and not a QB first.
Before nick had any control of the offense Jalen hurts looked great but blame him
Would be nice to see some quick throws. Slants, crosses, etc
Eagles aren't turning shit around with Siri there. Period.
Calcaterra still getting playing time is crazy. Dude CAN'T BLOCK TO SAVE HIS LIFE. He looks clueless.
I think we all need to relax a bit. I know everyone calls outs the offense and defense but please. Wait till your full offense is whole to where you can see Dotson be the third man like he was brought in to be. Then allow Jalen to be more comfortable because people aren’t doing roles they normally aren’t meant for like exact route for bigger players for more shiftier smaller players. Just give it time. Offense will be okay. Pls tell fangio to play some man. My goodnessss😤
Kellen Moore has always produced highly efficient offenses in Dallas and with the Chargers. Suddenly he arrives in Philly and we see this mess? I know Hurts is struggling, but could it be that he’s struggling due to trying to learn Moore’s offense in the preseason but since the regular season has started Sirianni is meddling with it???
Remove Hurts - Eagles still struggle in a sporadic offense.
Remove Sirianni - The entire team’s energy will lift and Hurts will settle into precisely what he saw in Moore’s playbook and the Eagles take off.
Howie, as good as he is at acquiring talent, maneuvering the draft and handling the budget; is just like Jerry Jones when it comes to hiring head coaches (Lurie gives him too much autonomy here IMO)..both hire “yes men” types. I said it when Pederson stepped down: Hire Duce Staley!! He is sharp, would’ve brought an old school toughness to the team, and while professional and cooperative is definitely NOT a “yes man.” He has more leadership in his pinky than practically every member of the present Eagles coaching staff. The players intensity, grit, attention to detail, tenacity and level of play and consistency would be immediately evident. Sirianni laid a poor foundation with easy overly player friendly preseason camps, buddying up to the veterans in front of the rookies and younger players, not playing starters at all for the entire preseason, getting too emotionally involved in the game like a Fan (needing Big Dom to keep him under control), implementing a basic high school level offense, etc
Hurts deserves some of the blame, but the quiet cancer in that locker room is the HC. IMO
That cheifs play when you were talking about motions was immaculate representation of what we should be doing
I have 0 confidence the offense can turn it around. Theyll get better when AJ and Smith come back, but they wont be right. Theyve been trying to get right since the beginning of last year
Has anyone questioned Jalen Hurts' intelligence? Maybe he's not smart enough to run an NFL offense. Shane Steichen had to dumb down the offense in 2022 because he wasn't comprehending it. Or could it be time for the Eagles to move off of Jalen? Get rid of Nick, Kellen, and Vic. Bring in Vrabel and whoever then trade Jalen to the Colts.
Teams need to start fearing Saquon so our play action open up things down field.....give Saquon the ball in more traditional running formations so defenses bite on the fake. I hate the option handoffs with Barkley standing next to Hurts.
Run the ball. RUN THE BALL. The passing game will open up if you run the ball. It’s so simple, why are we making it so hard?
They should have kept Quez Watkins or Zaccheus for this type of production
It’s honestly like Nick and Kellen are taking turns each week on calling plays. The weeks that we win are Kellens days… 🤔
It’s a 10 that we turn it around especially with the WRs coming back and lane.. just keep Siriani away from the offense
When you have a QB who holds the ball and runs himself into sacks it’s hard to judge a WR.
Eagles have an identity, its pass first to open up the run. Sirianni has said it multiple times the problem is the identity should be run first. Not to mention the coach has built a culture of subpar standards, the sloppiness of how every facet of the game is playing is ridiculous!
Dude if this is true that Kellen Moore doesn’t t have full control of the offense, Nick needs to go.
Min 7:25 says it all for the Eagles Defense that game.
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10 we turn it around 🦅gang green💯💪🏾
My confidence this thing gets turned around is about a 7 my confidence in Super Bowl is pretty low right now
Its tough to run a offense when your qb keeps turning the ball over
Lean on the run game until they have confidence back, manage the clock. 3 and outs with a bad defense will cost you
Idk if we’re good idk if we’re bad but arguing to keep Sirriani is the most difficult issue this season!!! Pls Fire him Lurie helps us
I'd try to package Dotson and slay and maybe a 6 or 7 for adams
Always good for unintentional PUN 😂
I'd rather watch you, Thomas Mod is super emotional.
If Dotson is having trouble separating, put him in at slot receiver
I don't think Howie got fleeced on Dotson our offense is not using him right we just don't look like we're playing hard and believing Nick is loosing the locker room
Golden Tate was acquired for a 3rd pk & was not targeted. Same BS with Dotson & to say Roseman wiffed & threw away a 3rd & 2 7ths is an over statement along with poor judgment. He needs to be included in game plan. Look at Dallas when Moore was there ALL 3 Wrs were incorporated in game plan & productive along with Te & rb all the weapons were used. Nick needs to get his hands off & let Moore do his thing. This is not on Roseman or Dotson.
I said it after the Tampa game... This is Siri's offense. WR's are just streaking down the field again. I'm seeing almost no crossers. It's either straight down the field or hook routes... especially on obvious blitzing downs. This offense is not creative at all. When we're on offense the defense never questions what's coming... and vice versa when we're on defensive. This team is predictable to a tee.
How about day “I will be better” vs “I gotta be better” I don’t see/hear any confidence in that smh😤
These Howie trades don’t work. This “plug and play” strategy is not how you build a roster. You have to get acclimated into a system.
The problem is with the HC. He needs to be released. I've wanted him gone since last year. The front office got it wrong. Big time... Plain n simple