Reference to "The HEER" means army in German. Wehrmacht is the WHOLE military. You hear people referred to the Wehrmacht as the German Army but they are technically wrong. Even PhD professors screw that up. The Wehrmacht is the German Army, Navy, and Luftwaffe (Air Corps). I apologize if I bored anyone I just thought I might add it to the comments.
The Heer, is the German land force, but does not include paramilitary such as waffen ss, or foreign brigades who are ground forces but not heer, but are Wehrmacht. So at times heer is not accurate
@@mdkell4261i assume he means, honest in the typical German manner in regards to the war; in their delusions of innocence and righteousness and their rather unique combination of superiority and self-pity. Even at the end, he describes France as the aggressor, and has the nerve to judge the allies treatment of prisoners and civilians. As in all these accounts, loss of faith in the leadership only starts when catastrophic defeats do. So whether each incident really happened or not, it seems like an honest and frank portrayal of the mindset of the elite German soldier.
What an incredible account. We all know the general timeline and major battles but listening to this is like looking through a microscope and following one single thread within a whole tapestry of peoples experiences of WW2.
@@ditto1958Agreed they are awesome though. I have to keep starting over each new night!! ✌️ I'm 47 and also have a hard time reading. Do to my eyes going foggy after half an hour.
Interesting and informative. Orator presented the documentary very well. Special thanks to commander cross. Sharing personal information/combat experiences making this documentary more authentic and possible.fighting/perishing/surviving. Knowing certain death/debilitating wounds were often possible.yet still advanced forward regardless of the consequences. That's true grit style determination to succeed. Panzer Ace My 4 year odyssey.. Exactly what the experience must have been!!!
I didn't expect to listen for long - but found this riveting. Fascinating detailed descriptions of action. Carefully written analysis of his various campaigns as well as capturing the excitement and fear of his participation. The post war experiences are an eye opener too. Very glad that I noticed this and listened.
@@chesterwortham5525Do a Google search using "European Eyewitness D-Day Accounts" and you will find a 1994 CSPAN broadcast of a symposium commemorating the 50th anniversary of DDay. At about the one hour twenty minute mark Colonel von Luck's presentation starts. The panel included Major Howard (Pegasus Bridge), as well as several foot soldiers' stories. It's a superb discussion.
Do you know if the Memoirs of the colonel Hans Von luck holy dog shit voice texting picked it up on the first time do you know if this Memoir is on UA-cam right now in full
@@MikezonaZona Not exactly sure what your point or question is, but the channel I first heard it was WW2 Stories, which is still extant but all content has been removed.
In the first part of the war sure. By the end all the "experten" were dead. No one left to train proper troops. I believe he mentioned this in this story.
@@joem3999.....you are correct, my great uncle lost a eye as a MG platoon commander in the battle of france, he then was OKH until late 44 when they got desperate. His battalion commanders course was 3 weeks long and he commanded troops with a months training....then sent to Serbia.
A very important 1st hand account of the war from the German side of events. Von Rosen was very lucky indeed. Wounded 5 times in the thick of most of the biggest battles of the war. I throughly enjoyed this personal history.
meh.. it s an autobiography... highlight the greatness at the times of publising and ignore the downsides or at least downplay them, if they can be traced down in records
As a teenager in 1971, I chose to be "at the tip of the Spear " ......best job I ever had , filthy work, body odour and Toe Jam mixed with Diesel fumes, oil, turret blowback from main gun and hot .50 cal cart.cases rolling around the floor plates. No sleep, cruddy food, plastic Jerry cans full of warm, fetid drinking/washing water. Great pals, great adventure and limped away . Best job I ever had.
That does sound pretty grundgy. My cousin was a tank mechanic in the Marines. Said he had to know every inch of a M 60.. Not a enviable job. Thanks for your service.
I got no idea where you find this stuff but its truly remarkable listening. I had no idea books like this existed. Thanks for sharing (as well as for Duel Under the Stars). Please upload more. 🙏🇿🇦
It was about the Brandenburgers... But I don't remember the name of the book. I need to find & listen to that book again. Unbelievably awesome book. Great job though on the channel. Thanks for the uploads so far.
As an aging "Grunt" myself I laugh when the Panzer officers complain about how slow the infantry is...... they were on foot- along with the horse drawn big guns are still marching like the Grand Armee' was doing back in 1812. Hitler forgot that more than half his (Heer) army was on foot like the armies of wars past. Only the Panzer divisions were advanced and high tech but the engines/mechanical parts couldn't deal with dust, mud,..... mother nature. They had to be maintained and couldn't roll through Russia w/o having breakdowns. Guess it was because Russia by choice or Force finally used their wide open country to withdraw and withdraw till they could turn around and fight........
@Nycco Yax yes yet they are very, very Entertaining. Tigers Tracks actually has solid truths behind it. Anyways there is many people that want to hear it.
What is wrong with listening to great stories? Is the Godfather real? But damn, it's Entertaining. Is Saving Private Ryan Real? But darn it's Entertaining.
@@titustitusnation1999 Don't get me wrong I never said they are bad. Last Panther is actually very very good and that's probably the best book in describing the horrors of war. Only after I have finished it I learned its fiction, but still, stories like those definitely happened to people in the war, they just sadly didn't have the opportunity to write them down..
I admire the honesty of R von Rosen, He describes not only the battles and, but also looting of the soviet store in the first days of the war and drinking Cognac and what not while on active duty. That is how it really was.
Unfortunately ,many of the place names were the German version and trying to locate some of them on a map were near impossible, only maybe to one town in a very large area at times, although, it is also possible some of the villages do not exist anymore. Was hoping the subtitles would help, they were very poorly done to say the least. Good story, sure he saw a lot that he didn't talk about, from the early days and his time behind the lines in reserve areas. Would not have been a nice experience, they took as good as they gave thru the course of the war, being a tanker, he was very lucky to survive it, in large part due to the equipt he operated..
I read a book called SS Colonel, about a group of SS who fled to France and their foreign legion after the war. They were sent to Indochina. Supposedly a personal and factual biography.
The edition I read is titled “Devil Guard”. All the serious historians I’ve read about of have “significant doubt” regarding it being factual. The version I read alleged ‘they’ (= a regiment of ? with intrinsic armour plus intrinsic artillery plus intrinsic heavy antiaircraft withdraw onto a plateau, are surrounded by soviet forces and successfully hole up there for 3 or 4 months, sending every attack reeling back at pretty much no loss. They all get French identification via the ratlines but the French government changes its mind & they get the option of more war in foreign legion or everyone is going to be executed. Came over as a little too far fetched. Regards from Oz🇦🇺
It is a historical fact that numerous soldiers in the French Foreign Legion who served in the French-Indochina War we German WW2 veterans, some of them former Waffen SS.
@@MadMax-bq6pg SS Colonel describes them fleeing for the Western Allies lines, swapping uniforms with dead soldiers and "losing" their i.d's. The French had a pretty good idea who they were, but needed good soldiers.
@@MadMax-bq6pg I met one of these men in Singapore many years ago. H The book may have holes in it however French CoC people I know have recounted similar historical tales.
Excellent 3rd Reich panzer leader's memoir, thank you for the upload. If I may, I'd like to request an additional English-translated combat-memoir: Thorolf Hillblad's "Twilight of the Gods".
I found this an interesting read, however the complaints of this german aristocrat about the conduct of POWs, after what his country did to the "untermensch" stinks of hypocrisy
10:11...THE GERMANS COULD SURE DISH IT OUT- BUT THEY COULDN'T TAKE IT!!! ALL THAT THE GERMANS GOT WAS A GODDAM GOOD TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE- AND THEY DESERVED EVERY BIT OF IT- AND MORE-(!)
I find it a bit disturbing that in the final chapters, the author laments that the French occupiers were "hateful" and "bent on [the Germans] destruction" as if the Wehrmacht and Nazi Party didn't spend the past five years subjecting the rest of Europe - not to mention the Jews and other "undesirables" - to those very same attitudes on a much, much larger and more vicious scale. Where is the author's self-awareness? Did he understand that he wasn't the victim in all of this? I suspect not. At 8:23:32 writes that he "felt like an animal in the zoo" when he was in a French-run prison and some official's wife and daughter came to tour the jail. How can you write that with a straight face knowing - as he did - the brutal and inhumane subjugation that the Nazis visited upon their many victims? Disgraceful, and the epilogue does not mitigate this fact. At the very least his learning of the true extent of the horrors of what was done should have prompted a re-visitation of the last two chapters.
The author was a Wehrmacht officer, not a Party official. The Wehrmacht did not , as a rule, treat the French as animals and casually shoot and torture French citizens. The treatment of the German people after the war was shameful and brutal. The perpetrators of the policies conducted in German-occupied areas, including the higher-rank officials in the Party were prosecuted and tried after the war and rightly so.
@@mathiaslundqvist9982 I understand the difference between the Wehrmacht and the Nazi Party, thanks. Do you think that the Wehrmacht didn't enable the Nazi Party to do what they did? Do you think they didn't round up Jews and others for the camps? Even outside of the events of the Holocaust, they were an occupying force and they were cruel in ways large and small. They committed MASSIVE atrocities in Poland. And the author complains about having to salute a French officer while being relatively free in his hometown in Germany after the war. My point stands. And you either need to learn a bit more about this topic before you engage in debate or examine your reasons for defending the German Army during WWII.
Whenout the human right of feedom of speech,, the right to bear arms, and believe on God, we war, persecute, and suffer idolatry....four and one half years of blind belief systematically promoted to war, hate, and.persecute.
Yes, absolutely. Even the front cover photo of the book shows Von Rosen himself standing in his actual Tiger, early in 1943. There's plenty of supporting evidence.
The Nazis were shut down before they could get their shit together. If they had gotten their shit together, they would have made the communists look like boy scouts. And as far as the tired arguments about the Allied carpet bombing of and aerial destruction of German cities, we have to admit that RAF bomber command would have been useless if they didn't go after German industry. There is a lot of evidence that the destruction of Hamburg shortened the war. So, stop.
...YOU'RE IGNORING TWO VERY IMPORTANT FACTS: 1- "THE ENEMIES OF GERMANY" DIDN'T START THAT GODDAM WAR IN EUROPE, AND 2- IF THE GERMANS HADN'T ACTED LIKE A BUNCH OF GODDAM SAVAGES, A HECK OF A LOT OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED!!! ACTUALLY, THE GERMANS WERE WORSE THAN SAVAGES DURING WW2- BECAUSE UNCIVILIZED PEOPLE CAN'T BE EXPECTED TO KNOW ANY BETTER!!! THE GERMANS WERE TOTALLY UNFIT TO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS!!! AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED- THE GERMANS DIDN'T SUFFER NEARLY ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION THAT THEY INFLICTED ON THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!
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Reference to "The HEER" means army in German. Wehrmacht is the WHOLE military. You hear people referred to the Wehrmacht as the German Army but they are technically wrong. Even PhD professors screw that up. The Wehrmacht is the German Army, Navy, and Luftwaffe (Air Corps). I apologize if I bored anyone I just thought I might add it to the comments.
Not at all. I always like learning something new. Heard Heer before and was confused.
Who were the "landsers"?
@@abraxaseyes87 The common soldiers.
I've also seem the term Wehrmacht also used to included The fallschirmjäger and the Waffen SS.
The Heer, is the German land force, but does not include paramilitary such as waffen ss, or foreign brigades who are ground forces but not heer, but are Wehrmacht. So at times heer is not accurate
FASCINATING! INTELLIGENTLY WRITTEN. HONEST. FRANK. UNAVOIDABLY COMPELLING. WWII GOLD. Danke!
How do you know this is all honest?
@@mdkell4261define Honest
@@mdkell4261i assume he means, honest in the typical German manner in regards to the war; in their delusions of innocence and righteousness and their rather unique combination of superiority and self-pity.
Even at the end, he describes France as the aggressor, and has the nerve to judge the allies treatment of prisoners and civilians.
As in all these accounts, loss of faith in the leadership only starts when catastrophic defeats do.
So whether each incident really happened or not, it seems like an honest and frank portrayal of the mindset of the elite German soldier.
How do you know it isn't
Great audiobook Thank you so much
What an incredible account. We all know the general timeline and major battles but listening to this is like looking through a microscope and following one single thread within a whole tapestry of peoples experiences of WW2.
Thanks for uploading this audio book. My eyes are getting bad so I can't read that well.
I have the same problem. I was struggling to read my copy of this book and luckily found this here.
Its the worst part of aging, eyes and arthritis making it hard to hold a book.
...well, NONE of us are getting any YOUNGER-!!!
I use these audiobooks to fall asleep 😅
@@ditto1958Agreed they are awesome though. I have to keep starting over each new night!! ✌️
I'm 47 and also have a hard time reading. Do to my eyes going foggy after half an hour.
Interesting and informative. Orator presented the documentary very well. Special thanks to commander cross. Sharing personal information/combat experiences making this documentary more authentic and possible.fighting/perishing/surviving. Knowing certain death/debilitating wounds were often possible.yet still advanced forward regardless of the consequences. That's true grit style determination to succeed. Panzer Ace My 4 year odyssey.. Exactly what the experience must have been!!!
His name was Richard Freiherr Von Rosen, he was a panzer ace who won the iron cross medal...
These memorandums are great but do keep in mind they are all severly sanitized to fit the narrative of the post war status..
Listened to this more than once over the last few years, and every time I hear something new.
That was an Amazing man!thank you!
Sounds like he recovered pretty well wish peace on earth
I didn't expect to listen for long - but found this riveting. Fascinating detailed descriptions of action. Carefully written analysis of his various campaigns as well as capturing the excitement and fear of his participation. The post war experiences are an eye opener too. Very glad that I noticed this and listened.
Agreed, it's a genuine German tome and despite taking 50+ years we Are finally hearing the view from the opposition. 👍 📚
Panzer Commander: The Memoirs of Colonel Hans Von Luck is superb. I listened to it this week on UA-cam on "archive".
Yes it is i read it years ago colonel von Luck was an amazing
Yes it is i read it years ago colonel von Luck was an amazing
@@chesterwortham5525Do a Google search using "European Eyewitness D-Day Accounts" and you will find a 1994 CSPAN broadcast of a symposium commemorating the 50th anniversary of DDay. At about the one hour twenty minute mark Colonel von Luck's presentation starts. The panel included Major Howard (Pegasus Bridge), as well as several foot soldiers' stories. It's a superb discussion.
Do you know if the Memoirs of the colonel Hans Von luck holy dog shit voice texting picked it up on the first time do you know if this Memoir is on UA-cam right now in full
@@MikezonaZona Not exactly sure what your point or question is, but the channel I first heard it was WW2 Stories, which is still extant but all content has been removed.
Germans were the best troops training wise during the war. Great book thanks for uploading.
In the first part of the war sure.
By the end all the "experten" were dead. No one left to train proper troops. I believe he mentioned this in this story.
@@joem3999.....you are correct, my great uncle lost a eye as a MG platoon commander in the battle of france, he then was OKH until late 44 when they got desperate. His battalion commanders course was 3 weeks long and he commanded troops with a months training....then sent to Serbia.
Enjoyed this so much Thank you.
Thank you for the read, was very much enjoyed a very difficult time in the world of military age.
Great story very well told indeed
A very important 1st hand account of the war from the German side of events. Von Rosen was very lucky indeed. Wounded 5 times in the thick of most of the biggest battles of the war. I throughly enjoyed this personal history.
meh.. it s an autobiography... highlight the greatness at the times of publising and ignore the downsides or at least downplay them, if they can be traced down in records
Please continue to make these, I really enjoy them!
Man the description of the battle that ensued with the AT-units after crossing that bridge was incredibly gripping.
Fascinating life.
And a very good narration.
Enjoyed this very much, danka
Awesome book !!! Thank you
Thank you for posting
This is excellent, and a true view into history. Thank you.
Cheers my friend 🙏 awesome work , keep em coming please 👍
Superb, Thankyou
As a teenager in 1971, I chose to be "at the tip of the Spear " ......best job I ever had , filthy work, body odour and Toe Jam mixed with Diesel fumes, oil, turret blowback from main gun and hot .50 cal cart.cases rolling around the floor plates.
No sleep, cruddy food, plastic Jerry cans full of warm, fetid drinking/washing water.
Great pals, great adventure and limped away . Best job I ever had.
That does sound pretty grundgy. My cousin was a tank mechanic in the Marines. Said he had to know every inch of a M 60.. Not a enviable job. Thanks for your service.
Fantastic .. loved every minute of it
I got no idea where you find this stuff but its truly remarkable listening. I had no idea books like this existed. Thanks for sharing (as well as for Duel Under the Stars). Please upload more. 🙏🇿🇦
It's a bot YT channel, you'll get no response..
Great story of very hard times!
thank you .
Beautiful writings and such undiluted truth and history
Undiluted??¿??
It was about the Brandenburgers... But I don't remember the name of the book. I need to find & listen to that book again. Unbelievably awesome book. Great job though on the channel. Thanks for the uploads so far.
Could it be blood and soil by any chance? Memoirs of a third reich brandenburger
Thank you for the upload.
Good narrator!!!
He really is!
Does anyone know his name?
Thank you this was excellent!
As an aging "Grunt" myself I laugh when the Panzer officers complain about how slow the infantry is...... they were on foot- along with the horse drawn big guns are still marching like the Grand Armee' was doing back in 1812. Hitler forgot that more than half his (Heer) army was on foot like the armies of wars past. Only the Panzer divisions were advanced and high tech but the engines/mechanical parts couldn't deal with dust, mud,..... mother nature. They had to be maintained and couldn't roll through Russia w/o having breakdowns. Guess it was because Russia by choice or Force finally used their wide open country to withdraw and withdraw till they could turn around and fight........
Definitely Tiger Tracks & Last Panther...
But those two are both fictional stories sadly
@Nycco Yax yes yet they are very, very Entertaining. Tigers Tracks actually has solid truths behind it. Anyways there is many people that want to hear it.
What is wrong with listening to great stories? Is the Godfather real? But damn, it's Entertaining. Is Saving Private Ryan Real? But darn it's Entertaining.
@@titustitusnation1999 Don't get me wrong I never said they are bad. Last Panther is actually very very good and that's probably the best book in describing the horrors of war. Only after I have finished it I learned its fiction, but still, stories like those definitely happened to people in the war, they just sadly didn't have the opportunity to write them down..
Straight up chapter one start at 14:35ish.
So what's your point ??
@@todd3285Lmaoo
@@todd3285Just information for people that don't want to listen to the introduction.
Thanks
Thanks very much I needed that.
Did you catch the description of the "Heroes' refuge"?
That's the trench dug and then the panzer driven over the trench!
Very good most enjoyable
The oration by Nigel Patterson make this very real
Excellent!!
Awesome... Can you post Tiger Tracks
The chapter where they stumbled upon a bunker would be too unbelievable for a movie.
Imagine having hardcore diarrhea while stuck in that tunnel for 30 hours .....rough stuff
I admire the honesty of R von Rosen, He describes not only the battles and, but also looting of the soviet store in the first days of the war and drinking Cognac and what not while on active duty. That is how it really was.
This is a great upload , thanks...Now if you can do Stalin : Paradoxes of Power by Steven Kotkin...
Yt says Nein
More like this please 😊
Unfortunately ,many of the place names were the German version and trying to locate some of them on a map were near impossible, only maybe to one town in a very large area at times, although, it is also possible some of the villages do not exist anymore. Was hoping the subtitles would help, they were very poorly done to say the least. Good story, sure he saw a lot that he didn't talk about, from the early days and his time behind the lines in reserve areas. Would not have been a nice experience, they took as good as they gave thru the course of the war, being a tanker, he was very lucky to survive it, in large part due to the equipt he operated..
Can anyone recommend another book from the perspective of German Soldiers ? Does not matter to me which branch served . Ty for upload 🎉
Ah. Tantor.. they produce great stuff.. their Art of War with Scot Brick is the best..
its like did these fools not figure out they were being led by a lunatic
Many of them were fanatical Nazi's who convinced themselves that they were on some kind of crusade to purify Europe.
...YOU SUMMED IT UP PRETTY WELL-!!!
Good book
I read a book called SS Colonel, about a group of SS who fled to France and their foreign legion after the war. They were sent to Indochina.
Supposedly a personal and factual biography.
The edition I read is titled “Devil Guard”. All the serious historians I’ve read about of have “significant doubt” regarding it being factual. The version I read alleged ‘they’ (= a regiment of ? with intrinsic armour plus intrinsic artillery plus intrinsic heavy antiaircraft withdraw onto a plateau, are surrounded by soviet forces and successfully hole up there for 3 or 4 months, sending every attack reeling back at pretty much no loss. They all get French identification via the ratlines but the French government changes its mind & they get the option of more war in foreign legion or everyone is going to be executed. Came over as a little too far fetched. Regards from Oz🇦🇺
@@MadMax-bq6pg very different to the one I read.
The one you described does sound like a ripping yarn.
It is a historical fact that numerous soldiers in the French Foreign Legion who served in the French-Indochina War we German WW2 veterans, some of them former Waffen SS.
@@MadMax-bq6pg SS Colonel describes them fleeing for the Western Allies lines, swapping uniforms with dead soldiers and "losing" their i.d's. The French had a pretty good idea who they were, but needed good soldiers.
@@MadMax-bq6pg I met one of these men in Singapore many years ago. H
The book may have holes in it however French CoC people
I know have recounted similar historical tales.
Have you anything else planned at all?
One of the anonymous non responsive channels I note...
" Storm of Steel " WW 1 :
Vas?
Last Panther
What time chapter 1 start?
Your brain is fried
Surely every country defeated by Germany should have been considered victors if you included defeated France.
👍👍
Excellent 3rd Reich panzer leader's memoir, thank you for the upload. If I may, I'd like to request an additional English-translated combat-memoir: Thorolf Hillblad's "Twilight of the Gods".
1:03:00
I found this an interesting read, however the complaints of this german aristocrat about the conduct of POWs, after what his country did to the "untermensch" stinks of hypocrisy
10:11...THE GERMANS COULD SURE DISH IT OUT- BUT THEY COULDN'T TAKE IT!!!
ALL THAT THE GERMANS GOT WAS A GODDAM GOOD TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE- AND THEY DESERVED EVERY BIT OF IT- AND MORE-(!)
to busy using transport to move jews..when all that should have been used for the army
b7
I find it a bit disturbing that in the final chapters, the author laments that the French occupiers were "hateful" and "bent on [the Germans] destruction" as if the Wehrmacht and Nazi Party didn't spend the past five years subjecting the rest of Europe - not to mention the Jews and other "undesirables" - to those very same attitudes on a much, much larger and more vicious scale. Where is the author's self-awareness? Did he understand that he wasn't the victim in all of this? I suspect not. At 8:23:32 writes that he "felt like an animal in the zoo" when he was in a French-run prison and some official's wife and daughter came to tour the jail. How can you write that with a straight face knowing - as he did - the brutal and inhumane subjugation that the Nazis visited upon their many victims? Disgraceful, and the epilogue does not mitigate this fact. At the very least his learning of the true extent of the horrors of what was done should have prompted a re-visitation of the last two chapters.
The author was a Wehrmacht officer, not a Party official. The Wehrmacht did not , as a rule, treat the French as animals and casually shoot and torture French citizens. The treatment of the German people after the war was shameful and brutal. The perpetrators of the policies conducted in German-occupied areas, including the higher-rank officials in the Party were prosecuted and tried after the war and rightly so.
@@mathiaslundqvist9982 I understand the difference between the Wehrmacht and the Nazi Party, thanks. Do you think that the Wehrmacht didn't enable the Nazi Party to do what they did? Do you think they didn't round up Jews and others for the camps? Even outside of the events of the Holocaust, they were an occupying force and they were cruel in ways large and small. They committed MASSIVE atrocities in Poland. And the author complains about having to salute a French officer while being relatively free in his hometown in Germany after the war. My point stands. And you either need to learn a bit more about this topic before you engage in debate or examine your reasons for defending the German Army during WWII.
@@df4291Take a chill pill!
@@dorseykindler9544 hey friend, kiss my whole hairy @ss
@@mathiaslundqvist9982nein
Whenout the human right of feedom of speech,, the right to bear arms, and believe on God, we war, persecute, and suffer idolatry....four and one half years of blind belief systematically promoted to war, hate, and.persecute.
Is this supposed to be real?
Yes, absolutely. Even the front cover photo of the book shows Von Rosen himself standing in his actual Tiger, early in 1943. There's plenty of supporting evidence.
It is.
First, second, third.
Tired of the apologies....the enemies of Germany were far more criminal but they get to spout off about "saving the world."
The Nazis were shut down before they could get their shit together. If they had gotten their shit together, they would have made the communists look like boy scouts.
And as far as the tired arguments about the Allied carpet bombing of and aerial destruction of German cities, we have to admit that RAF bomber command would have been useless if they didn't go after German industry. There is a lot of evidence that the destruction of Hamburg shortened the war. So, stop.
...YOU'RE IGNORING TWO VERY IMPORTANT FACTS: 1- "THE ENEMIES OF GERMANY" DIDN'T START THAT GODDAM WAR IN EUROPE, AND 2- IF THE GERMANS HADN'T ACTED LIKE A BUNCH OF GODDAM SAVAGES, A HECK OF A LOT OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED!!!
ACTUALLY, THE GERMANS WERE WORSE THAN SAVAGES DURING WW2- BECAUSE UNCIVILIZED PEOPLE CAN'T BE EXPECTED TO KNOW ANY BETTER!!!
THE GERMANS WERE TOTALLY UNFIT TO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS!!!
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED- THE GERMANS DIDN'T SUFFER NEARLY ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION THAT THEY INFLICTED ON THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!
How were they more criminal?
@@ninjawizard3865
They committed many criminal atrocities
aw poor little not see making excuses
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Moral dolt; intellectual smartie. Ultimately, a conscienceless patsy.
And you. What do you consider yourself.
Zensur
@2:38:35