Hi Misha! the C6 (C5 and C7 too) does not have a rear solid axel 13:37, it has double wishbone on all 4 corners (like the 458) but instead of the coils it has 2 composite leaf springs, I know because I swpped those for a real coilover set up on my ls3, took me 2 days haha the car is now transformed as far as the handling goes. Fun video!
Very impressive as I own a 2nd generation mini and that has a fancy engine design with dohc, variable valve timing etc and redlines at 6500/7000max while this beast can push to the same numbers, definitely very enjoyable, I wouldn't enjoy a V8 that could only rev to 5k as it would pull for a bit and then you are already at Redline and have to change up while this has another 2k to go 😂👌
@@mikehunt3987perhaps, but destroked 6.2 and 5.7 variants have hit 9k without massive overhauls. NASCAR engines do it for the duration of the race. Point being that you can make a OHV engine rev if that’s what you want.
The first time you set off and red-lined first gear, dude looked at you like you stole his spaghetti, but when you jumped at 260km/h+, dude was sweating like mozzarella.
I love how the traction control light is the backside of the actual car not just some symbol. That's very neat. Also I love the typically American long gears. Seemingly endless acceleration without any interruptions. In fact at 8:12 you go from 4k RPM to 7k RPM in whatever gear, which translates to 160kph to 280kph!! Insane. Glad that nothing happened during that plastic cover problem.
nice detail you noticed about the TCS light -- guess chevy wasn't 100% cheap everywhere haha. I believe the base models of C5 and C6 have that too, not just the Z06 / ZR1
The c6 z06 is a one of kind car. It literally pulls hard in every gear. 3rd pulls hard and 4th just keeps going and its like wtf. 3rd to 4th is 120mph - 160mph.
True the amount of people that have died because their aftermarket floor mat has slid under the brake pedal is surprising. I even saw a video a child threw a toy from the back seat and it lodged under the pedal. Was in the old live leak days It still bothers me.
@@Juuythljgrrdwq it's was a grainy china/jap video about 10 years ago. LiveLeak has shut down now. It's was so fast, kid throws toy at mum, toy goes under brake pedal, mum realises and tries to brake, mum tries to lean forward to remove obstruction. All crash a highway speed. Scary
@@tbrowniscool I've had a situation maybe 6 years ago when bottle of water slid from under seat blocking clutch and brake. I realized on red light but stopped on crossing with handbrake. If there was a pedestrian I definetly would hit him. I had my licence for couple months and my awerness was bad af Since then I NEVER put anything on the floor, even behind seats.
Props to the owner. Love the Italian car culture, the diversity it's crazy and they love their unique cars. Speaking of Italy... Makes me miss my times as a child when my mom had an Alfa 33 boxer.
As an Italian, most old italian cars sadly are good until you actually own or try to drive one, compared to other European brands materials are low quality and the interiors start to deteriorate prematurely, alfa in particular was constantly trying to do better in a worse way for example by putting the rear brakes on the differential like on the 75 (causing them to not work when it was wet cause water would constantly splash on them), by positioning the engine forward to the front axle (like the 33, this kinda improves the grip but when it rains the car becomes terrible and I'm talking about cruising in the city and not racing on a track), also Italian cars transmissions and shifter were generally terrible with extremely long travels or premature wear on some cars (like the 33...) Also there have been years when the cars were poorly made due to constant strikes in the assembly lines, my grandfather ritmo for example was missing a piston ring, lancia delta 836 steering boxes would unbolt themselves. Overall I agree with what u said, Italian cars are indeed unique but trust me you'd prefer a car that doesn't understeer in a big roundabout at 40km/h just because it has been terribly made.
That LS7 is LEGENDARY. This cammed one seems RELENTLESS over 5k. Stock ones seem to be more even in power distribution. Yes, handling was somewhat unrefined it seems.. needs suspension and aero upgrade probably to really be great. Brakes and cooling ofc also.
2:36, your heart pumping, the long 1st gear till 100 km/h, the sound, your laughing after it, the passenger stare and smirk: one of the most iconic moments of your runs!
I always love to see a Z06. I saw a couple in Poland last year and it’s so much more exciting to see them rumbling around Europe than in here in the US. You know it made this crazy journey from Kentucky, all the way out to some maniac with very particular taste in cars haha. Always puts a huge smile on my face.
Holy smokes this car ate the long uphill in the fast section for breakfast at almost 250 kph and still needed to use the whole track taking turns at decent speeds and with eargasmic v8 sound. This video was a treat. Ty Misha amd the owner for today's vid... shame about cooling issue tho. Glad you met one of your younger years' dream car even if briefly.
Yellow C6 Z06 here. Middle tunnel heat is normal no need to worry. Rear is not a solid axle, please correct ;-) Maybe next time. 7L NA, will always remain a benchmark! Have fun Misha! Like and always subscribed.
Having owned a C5 ZO6 and driven a few C6 ZO6s on track… my consensus is they can be phenomenal on track, however…they will not take it out of the box so to say. Heat issues will always be there, even with stock power. Doesn’t take a whole lot to get that under control though, especially with the C6. They also benefit hugely from, at a minimum, different shocks/dampers. And although it does have independent rear suspension, it uses a transverse leaf spring front and rear that kind of “connects” one side of the car to the other, so if you hit a bump or curb with one side, it will transfer some of that energy. Not ideal, but even the C5/6R race cars used the leaf springs with great success. All in all, fantastically fun cars but if you want it for serious track duty, budget for some durability mods before anything else. That, plus some relatively minor suspension tweaks and it’ll be one of the fastest and best sounding cars out there. Love the content!
Unfortunately, if you're going to flog a C6Z on a racetrack, you really need cooling mods before adding any horsepower. Also the clutch master cylinders in these things aren't very good from the factory, if you have headers, your clutch pedal will get mushy and it won't shift very nicely. I put a Tilton clutch cylinder in mine and I can shift in about 0.25 seconds up at 7500 rpm. Hopefully someday someone brings you one that's well sorted for the racetrack. I think this car is set up adequately for the average enthusiast, but when someone like Misha hops in and really pushes it to the limit, that's when the issues show up.
100%. Doing that on my z06 currently. Lot of potential, everyone spends money on a heads, cam, header package when it should be going into coilovers, seats, and cooling
If the car is stock power (or just like headers), then cooling is not a problem. I used to track c6z06 at the ring, i only had headers and never had cooling issues. Clutch issue is another problem, u have to flush the clutch fluid frequently, it gets dirty quick and causes sticky clutch. The big item c6z06 needs at the ring is coilovers and gt3 aero. There used to a guy there (Dennis), who tracked one with gt3 aero, coilovers, semi slicks, stock power levels and he did 7:05 btg.
The power was increased by approx. 100 hp, so I think the overheating may be less of an issue with the original 505 hp / 512PS, at least with original cooling.
@@mitchellsteindler Surprisingly not. LS7s that "only" make 600 hp have what in the US would be considered a small cam. Also, the air intake manifold, headers, intake piping, and exhaust allone were probably worth 60 hp as well. Big cam LS7 cars are north of 700 hp but those are a lot more difficult to drive legally in Europe (not sure about Italy, but I assume it is similar to Germany and Austria where we can only get away with small cams when passing the emissions tests).
@@big-Rconsider the chopping and msd intake and intake, I think he makes at least 550 on the wheel. I assume he has ported heads and high flow header, I think it is very possible he sits at 600 wheel. But most intake on the market will suck away air that should go into the radiator.
Vettes all have overheating issues, most guys in the states just add a small methanol injection kit to keep IATs down on the track, idk how easy it is to get methanol overseas though. Fenders with heat extractors and hood vents help a lot too to get stale air out. Better placement of the trans and oil cooler are also a must on the C5 and C6 imo, upgrading while you're at it is worth every penny.
Those cars are sick! Takes a good driver to reach anywhere near its potential, especially after upgrading heads/cam. You have about 650hp pushing 3100lbs/1400kg. If I remember right that car held the Nurburgring track record for its category at some point.
these cars are very fast and quite easy to get 650-700hp (crank) out of with NA mods, but cooling must be upgraded, better oil coolers, better radiator, better brakes++ I Had my c6z at Apex a couple of years ago Misha. but it still needed some more suspension mods to feel great. i think you would like a better sorted car alot :) For me as a rookie, my 600whp c6z was probably more than i needed :D
@misha, i am currently building out my z06 and i am planning to send it out to EU to do a roadtrip from London to Belgrade. I plan on doing a pit stop at the ring for a few days. Happy to let you drive it. Engine is stock, all the $ mods went into coilovers, cooling, seats, upgrading brakes, steering, and removing 100 kilos out of the car
maybe reach out to LG Motorsports (Louis Gigliotti), they drop by the Ring every so often for testing of their C6s and theirs are much more suited to track use than this. Would really love to see yall hit the track with a properly prepped C6, AP brakes and GSpeed/LG suspension components help a ton
By far one of my favorite episodes. It shows how cars no matter how much you pour into them will always test your patience when you want to completely go ape shit with it on the track 😂 great video!
Ah yes, this is one thing I don't miss about my C6 Z06, that transmission tunnel. What little insulation there is behind the carpet falls down and then you're just a few inches away from the metal of the transmission tunnel, which is fantastic at blasting heat into the cabin. I put extra insulation behind the carpet and I put all the insulation on the underside of the car in the trans tunnel that I could possibly add. I was acceptable at that point.
The C6Z06 is one of the last pure American sportscars with the big 427 NA engine and 6spd manual. Such a great car with so much character. Hate you had issues with this one, hope you can give it another go once its a little more sorted or possibly another one. LOVE the sound of that thing.
The C6 Z06 was also my dream car when I was about to drive the first years. Great to see it on the track. Nice gear ratio and incredible to handshift such a high powered car. Today you may only have automatic left in such power areas....
Heat, living if Florida, is one of reasons I prefer the C6 Grand Sport with the 6.2l over the 7.0l. The GS has all of the mods the Zo6 has minus the 7.0l. Less weight on the front is a bonus! Mine had 540/580 with just a few mild mods and, I ran 30 minute sessions at Sebring without over heating with 90+ degree weather. But, I must say, that thing is a beast! BTW, C6 plastic suxs! I had the seat back break under acceleration on mine! Chevy replaced it but, it was not a good thing!
ah but that LS7 with its titanium rods... a work of art in chevy terms:) but i agree... forced induction even the zr1 went with your block i think. probably thicker cylinder liners improving rigidity or thats my guess
ZO6 LS7 engine would weigh the same or less than an LS3 and the Z06 is aluminium chassis which is 50kg lighter than the Grand Sport steel frame. There are pro's and con's of each model but the Z06 wins hands down on the weight front.
It's so cool to see people from all over europe come to you and even if they dont speak english that well they still try their hardest and it's always so wholesome, this community is great!
Misha, I don't know how to get my C6 Z06 to the ring from the US, but I am putting a new engine in mine that is going to be making over 700hp NA. I would love to tour Europe with it and when I do I'll put a set of Nankang AR1s on it for you to have a go.
-Needs a DeWitts radiator with G-speed brushless big single Spal fan. Or Prospeed dual Spal brushless fan set up. -Needs Giro disc 2 piece floating rotors if on a budget and running stock calipers. Many people will switch out the calipers to for harder track abuse like this. If the budget isn't an issue you want AP Racing full front brake kit. - For the suspension you want at the very least a Johnny O'Connell stage 1 kit with the bigger stiffer sway bars. Adjustable rear. End links. Comes with tuned shock dampers too. Or if the budget is a bit more just get the sway bars separately. Ditch the leaf springs for a coilover kit setup. The car will feel completely different & inspire way more confidence. Would love to see Misha in a proper set up C6 with the above simple mods.
Z06 cooling issues are unfortunately nothing new. I'd imagine it's probably less of an issue without mods, as I haven't seen too many complaints about it. The C7 Z06 on the other hand is infamous for it, so much so that they heavily overcompensated with the C8 Z06. I think you'll be pleased to know the C8 Z06 was designed to be able to run at the track all day long with the AC on and no heatsoak, which has been corroborated by track tests of the car. Significant quality control improvement should also prevent any more loose plastic pieces, lol. Love to see corvette content even when it doesn't always work out.
@@Syncopia Really all it needs are tires and some coils, with the stock setup overheating isn't generally an issue like this, although a cooler wouldn't be wasted
That was a hell of driving. 👍🙂 The power and noise is absolutely amazing but it is quite surprising that Z06 is not more a track car. Anyway it was one of the videos which made me write a comment. 🤗
The car was modded in various ways. Who knows how well the parts selection and tuning was done. I suspect that plastic cover coming down may have had something to do with some of the work at some point.
First, the brake pedal did not fail. The hush panel (or lower dash panel) failed. Second, I agree with @car_pal, the C6 does not have a solid rear axle. And third, any car that has not been properly modified or prepared will have some issues.
With a car that has that much torque and a 7L Engine, you don't really need to downshift to 2nd especially as you are not used to the pedals position, you just power up in 3rd and the car will fly out of corners.
It was painful to watch! To many needless gear changes like it was a Honda. He only needed 3rd and 4th for the most part, changing into 1st gear at times made no sense at all.
@@WeirdBrick that's because that gearbox has has so long ratios that you need to get used to it. Annoying af especially on track. On higher gears it just wouldn't go like you'd expect it
@@WeirdBrickWith those tall gears he probably needed second at times too but I was thinking the same, way too much torque to need to shift like a little 4 banger requires. But being new to it I don’t blame him and with how hot it seemed in the cabin maybe it was just hard to think/focus
Cooling issues aside from a daily driver that was meant to deliver good wind tunnel results and fuel economy, the lap Misha laid down was a testament to the basic car's suspension/chassis prowess. Time and again I hear about "coilover" improvements but no one who has switched to coilovers on the C5 or C6 platform has documented actual handling improvements. The transverse leaf was a core design ingredient that provided enough competitive advantages to best cars costing more than twice as much (ie. Ferrari 458) on the track. For heavy, maximum output track use, the C5 and C6 platform would benefit greatly from improved airflow management through the front spoiler and through added hood vents. Oil coolers mounted behind the spoiler, upgraded radiators, and racing oil are an absolute must for this type of torture test use - stuff that was never contemplated in the original $50k "daily driver" GM brought to market.
One Very cool fact about this car is that from any other Corvette, it's back bumper or the whole back,it seems to be the smallest(in my opinion) and it's front is ginormous. Of course it's because it's American power(extremely big blocks or engines whatever) and I can say that because when I first saw it, I got amazed(of course because it's a very cool car) and because I hadn't seen it before then, I just couldn't think what car it was and If you don't believe it or not, If you see it for the first time,to your eyes,will seem such a giant car, but it's engine size, trolls you. Endly that was such a good lap!!!
I love these cars. Nice shape, epic sound. I considered to buy one of this or a mustang mach1. I like them so much but they just have to much flaws to really be an option…at some point I couldnt sugercoat this any longer so I dont consider them anymore. I havent bought „the“ car yet but i know now it will not be an american power one 😢. Still love to see snd hear them. 👍
I love a nice C5! I'm from USA and people mostly think of them as Drag Race cars. People dont have any idea how well they have done in Le Mans and road road racing, etc....
The race version maybe but a race car is not only a big engine. Stock version is not very efficient on this track... Overheating problem, brakes... Slow gearbox 😮 and overtaken by BMW with less half of the power... 😂 yes we have no idea. But it's a nice car
Ahh the memories. Is the speedometer off or does it have a different 3rd and 4th gear or final drive? Mine went up to 250 in 4th gear, according to the speedometer. First and second gears matched normal values for these cars (1st gear 100 km/h, 2nd gear 160 km/h).
I've seen a C6 with AP brakes, Ohlins TTX, and better cooling mods and was going very well and reliably too. It also had a sequential box fitted at a later date and was even more savage then. Shame not very common in the UK due to being left hand drive but im moving to Dubai in a few months and will be getting one there.
Thanks for showing the oil temperature, over course of one lap. Heat issue is a thing, made once 4 laps all after each other with no heat issues though. But weather was quite cold outside, has a huge effect for sure.
Many(MANY) years ago....had a 1968 Firebird 400 H.O. 4MT, that was highly modded....had an incident where an adult beverage bottle got under the brake pedal at an inopportune time....I stomped the pedal hard enough to break the bottle and NOT crash, badly.....lol I still have nightmares about that one...o_0
Depends! When braking and turning at the same time, it makes the car understeer. Or completely go straight. You don't want that... Especially not there!
@@mgcharoudin Also true. I had some moments with my Jazz (that you droven when it was still stock earlier this year) were people wanted to pass me Into corners, but Just stayed beside me way to long, so my car just got way to unstable because i had to reduce my speed way to much in corner.
It's common in C6 owners (who track their car regularly) to swap out the stock radiator with a much larger aftermarket option and change out the thermostat to a lower temp range plus retune the fan controller so they turn on at a lower temp. The LS engines run hot and remain hot with sustained high rpm driving, which is their only downfall as after the right cooling upgrades along with some valve train upgrades, they can handle much higher rpms than the 7k of the LS7. Many LS builders that stay NA go for a redline somewhere between 7200 all the way to 9000 depending on the build purpose and budget. Loved this video as I too own a C6 (manual grand sport)!!!
Presumably a lower temp thermostat is only going to affect warm-up and and town driving ... on the track it's surely going to be fully open all the time!
It’s a shame Misha didn’t ride that torque low down, instead he drove it like a Honda changing gear about 3 times more than he needed to! Bizarre as he’s usually right on it!
Whoever reinstalled, the performance parks did not do them correctly on this car number 2. If you're going to track it, there are spots for the transmission and differential, of course, also a spot for an oil cooler for The Dry stump, the heat Shields were not installed correctly on the transmission channel. The car should not got that hot inside whatsoever. Also whoever worked underneath the dashboard, never put back. The correct pieces for the break to get stuck like that. Like I said, whoever worked on the car doesn't seem like they knew how to work on a Corvette. Also, that car should be switched over to coilovers and the stock brakes needed different brake pads. Upgraded fluid And you can make the car break a lot harder without them. Heating up that way on my C6Z06 I could do 10 to 15 laps at Sebring. And it was a heads and cam car.
C6 Z06 Corvettes are rock solid cars, but only Stock, with just a aftermarket Exhaust system, there is no point reving it up to 7.000 rpm, maximum power and torque already at 6200 rpm. Mischa is a good driver but does not know the Z06 C6 very well, thats a fact. A Proud C6 Z06 owner👍
Independent rear Misha, but Corvette uses a traverse leaf and independent dampers... very simple to, and completely transforms the rear road holding, when you swap out to a rear coilover.... it's a simple bolt in swap. For the Ring, she needs a square wheel and tire setup (F-10.5 315/R-10.5-11 315 ), better trans and oil coolers, Tick or MGW shifter, pads, fluid. Done, unless you want some aero, which there's plenty available from mild to wild, including chassis mount stanchions for rear wings from some random company called Vulcan Alpha 🤔😅 That, plus a simple set of seats and small Trackspec Trackday 4-point bolt in roll bar and belts and you're good to go 👌🏻
These things actually get better fuel economy than most other performace cars. Even with like 200hp less (at least when it comes to freeway crusing in 6th gear)
The old saying Never meet your Idols eh :-) Loved the lap although I was chuckling a bit when the trim caused the pedal issue, C6 I've played with on smaller tracks and I drove a Z06 around 4 laps on a fairly tight course, the power is a lot of fun but like most US cars of the era straight line speed was great but handling and braking were the sacrifice and the owner I drove for had only recently imported the car and was waiting for a RHD conversion so I was the test pilot. Fit and finish was not very good and I suggested a workshop who made suitable mods, Baer brakes, better adjustable suspension, Titanium exhaust, Ceramic coating etc and a lot of engine cooling mods AND persuaded the owner to leave it Left hand Drive to easier work in with the massive US aftermarket and the result was way better but sacrificed much of the Vette interior and accessories although he did keep the Air con :-)
If you search on YT Corvette C6 nurburgring you would find couple of guys maybe 3 or 4 that share or had shared their onboards on the ring, they have those mods you mentioned as the car is 70 tracktool 30 off track and the car is absolutely an animal!
The C6 generation regardless of engine really benefits from hood venting and an aftermarket radiator for extended track use, the center console on these cars gets stupid hot and there's a fix for that too. Unfortunately Chevy didn't design the front end very well and a lot of high pressure air gets stuck in the engine bay with no where to go which hurts cooling and creates about 90lbs of lift around 120-140mph.
The corvettes have always had cooling issues the heat never leaves the engine bay . A friend of mine altered his engine hood and added more cooling heat sinks under the car for the transmission and brakes to fix the problem .
Official 2012 z06 ring time ( cup2 tires ) - 7: 22 ( could be found on youtube ) . I guess it's not such a bad car .7: 22 It was something 11 years ago and I think it still is. I defend the brand because I have a ZR1 in my garage :)
Quite impressive how you manage the situation, i bet when you felt the pedal get stuck your heart sinked. Its amazing how its all without traction control.
So I've owned a C5 and C6 non Z06's. It's not a solid rear, it's on a transverse leaf spring. Suspension can be made fully independent with just a set of coil overs. Cooling and brakes are a must with those cars as well. Power is thankfully something they don't lack for and as stated in the C7 video, the gearing has the same problem. A base model transmission has the best gear set when paired with a 3.9 gear, really wakes those cars up. Other then that the chassis is great as long as you get your hands on a coil overs. That really is the big "limitation", but once you do that it "fixes" the transverse rear crosstalk they wake up.
The stock suspension is fully independent. Although the transverse spring is one piece, it acts independently on each side of the car, as the center of the spring is clamped rigidly to the differential/subframe assy and therefore doesn't transfer force from one side to the other.
@@davidlamb7979 idk if you've drive one before and after with the leaf spring and then again after coils, but from ownership it's a completely different car. When you hit a curb or some kind of bump in the road with that "independent" leaf spring you feel the shift in the back of the car. Even feels better street driving. Coils are key to that car.
@@JC7119 Going from stock suspension to coil-overs you're changing the shocks too. So how are you determining the change you feel is all due to the springs, and not the shocks? Going from stock shocks to a high-quality performance shock that's properly tuned makes a huge difference in suspension performance, with nothing else changed. From a mechanical/engineering standpoint, there's no reason a coil spring would work any better than a transverse leaf spring, spring rate being the same. The difference in spring feel is likely from the fact that the leaf spring loads are transferred to the rear diff subframe, which is mounted with rubber bushings to dampen vibration, whereas the coil-overs are transferring spring loads directly to the chassis.
The Corvette does not have a solid rear axle . It has a weird torsion bar system for suspension . But it's dual wishbone fully independent suspension front and rear . The Z06 has a rather large sway bar , maybe that and the torsion bar system just makes it feel like a solid axle .
That car is poorly modified to the point you would appreciate a stock one much more. They don't have a straight axle but a mono leaf. I tracked my c6 zr1 completely stock with zero issues and drift my c6 grand sport with just a radiator and thermostat. Hope you get to experience one that's better sorted so you can truly appreciate the car/chassis. I'd recommend that guy try a dewitts rad, 180 thermostat, some true coilovers and gosh idk about the brakes maybe just go back to stock 🤷♀️ respect for getting into other ppls jelopies and sending it lol
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I love the owner making his best effort to speak English
I love how excited he gets every time he is understood. He'll be more fluent than most Americans in no time at all.
you can just hear the passions behind his words, cant help but smile :)
@@Mawdingthe spoken language maybe different but the language of cars is universal
@mawding , exactly ! We let the car’s do the talking .👌🏻
I love the way He speaks. the italianness in his voice. If you would only here him speak you would expext him to talk about an 70ies Alfa Romeo
6:12 The way the owner asked if Misha liked the car after fixing the problem was so adorable.
I was thinking the same
The owner's voice tone is close to Misha, I almost thought Misha was talking to himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ya bro i fell bad for owner
He said im so sorry @5:25 owner is so genuine. Far too kind hearted.
the passenger has some balls, not even flinching while Misha is jumping at 270kmh in a car he's not been driving before. mad respect
Got to give to them Italians
The only part he flinched was when Misa rev'd it up to 7500😂
because Italian
Proper break-in for Italians
@@carsonw722I saw that too hahaha I think Misha as well in peripheral cuz he didnt shift that high after
Hi Misha! the C6 (C5 and C7 too) does not have a rear solid axel 13:37, it has double wishbone on all 4 corners (like the 458) but instead of the coils it has 2 composite leaf springs, I know because I swpped those for a real coilover set up on my ls3, took me 2 days haha the car is now transformed as far as the handling goes. Fun video!
Ah yes, leafsprings is what I meant!
Camaro is solid axle. C6 is transverse leaf which, with a decent set of shocks (Pedders) is still very good IMO!@@mgcharoudin
@@beaugator Until 2002 only, after that the Camaro doesn't have solid axles either.
Double wishbone like a 458.. or like a Miata 😉
A lot of vette folks get the QA1 adjustable coilovers that replace the transverse monosprings
That engine is epic. Pushrods, 7.0 liters, and still able to rev to over 7000 rpm.
Very impressive as I own a 2nd generation mini and that has a fancy engine design with dohc, variable valve timing etc and redlines at 6500/7000max while this beast can push to the same numbers, definitely very enjoyable, I wouldn't enjoy a V8 that could only rev to 5k as it would pull for a bit and then you are already at Redline and have to change up while this has another 2k to go 😂👌
@@squeakers275k? Any LS motor can rev to 6.. and pull from 3k up.
Stroke determines rev limit, not any of that
@@2seeppush rods definitely don't help.. lol
@@mikehunt3987perhaps, but destroked 6.2 and 5.7 variants have hit 9k without massive overhauls. NASCAR engines do it for the duration of the race. Point being that you can make a OHV engine rev if that’s what you want.
The first time you set off and red-lined first gear, dude looked at you like you stole his spaghetti, but when you jumped at 260km/h+, dude was sweating like mozzarella.
😂🤣 That's hilarious!
bruh :D you just mammad your last mia
This is not a Rob Ferretti video lol
He was mozzarella
Can you blame him?
The V8 sound of this engine is absolutely GLORIOUS.
I love how the traction control light is the backside of the actual car not just some symbol. That's very neat. Also I love the typically American long gears. Seemingly endless acceleration without any interruptions. In fact at 8:12 you go from 4k RPM to 7k RPM in whatever gear, which translates to 160kph to 280kph!! Insane.
Glad that nothing happened during that plastic cover problem.
nice detail you noticed about the TCS light -- guess chevy wasn't 100% cheap everywhere haha. I believe the base models of C5 and C6 have that too, not just the Z06 / ZR1
@@oConshienyou are correct. My C5 has the back end of the car as the TCS button and light.
4th gear, you can see his arm movements during the 2→3 and 3→4
we have a relatively small circuit where I live, C6 Z06 owners use 3rd gear only!
The c6 z06 is a one of kind car. It literally pulls hard in every gear. 3rd pulls hard and 4th just keeps going and its like wtf. 3rd to 4th is 120mph - 160mph.
Better to have the loose plastic holding the brake pedal down than stopping the pedal from going down
True the amount of people that have died because their aftermarket floor mat has slid under the brake pedal is surprising. I even saw a video a child threw a toy from the back seat and it lodged under the pedal. Was in the old live leak days It still bothers me.
@@tbrowniscoolplease link it
@@Juuythljgrrdwqlive leak doesnt exist anymore
@@Juuythljgrrdwq it's was a grainy china/jap video about 10 years ago. LiveLeak has shut down now. It's was so fast, kid throws toy at mum, toy goes under brake pedal, mum realises and tries to brake, mum tries to lean forward to remove obstruction. All crash a highway speed. Scary
@@tbrowniscool I've had a situation maybe 6 years ago when bottle of water slid from under seat blocking clutch and brake. I realized on red light but stopped on crossing with handbrake. If there was a pedestrian I definetly would hit him. I had my licence for couple months and my awerness was bad af
Since then I NEVER put anything on the floor, even behind seats.
Props to the owner. Love the Italian car culture, the diversity it's crazy and they love their unique cars. Speaking of Italy... Makes me miss my times as a child when my mom had an Alfa 33 boxer.
Thanks man, as italian I appreciate that
As an Italian, most old italian cars sadly are good until you actually own or try to drive one, compared to other European brands materials are low quality and the interiors start to deteriorate prematurely, alfa in particular was constantly trying to do better in a worse way for example by putting the rear brakes on the differential like on the 75 (causing them to not work when it was wet cause water would constantly splash on them), by positioning the engine forward to the front axle (like the 33, this kinda improves the grip but when it rains the car becomes terrible and I'm talking about cruising in the city and not racing on a track), also Italian cars transmissions and shifter were generally terrible with extremely long travels or premature wear on some cars (like the 33...)
Also there have been years when the cars were poorly made due to constant strikes in the assembly lines, my grandfather ritmo for example was missing a piston ring, lancia delta 836 steering boxes would unbolt themselves.
Overall I agree with what u said, Italian cars are indeed unique but trust me you'd prefer a car that doesn't understeer in a big roundabout at 40km/h just because it has been terribly made.
That LS7 is LEGENDARY. This cammed one seems RELENTLESS over 5k. Stock ones seem to be more even in power distribution. Yes, handling was somewhat unrefined it seems.. needs suspension and aero upgrade probably to really be great. Brakes and cooling ofc also.
told ya
2:36, your heart pumping, the long 1st gear till 100 km/h, the sound, your laughing after it, the passenger stare and smirk: one of the most iconic moments of your runs!
I always love to see a Z06. I saw a couple in Poland last year and it’s so much more exciting to see them rumbling around Europe than in here in the US. You know it made this crazy journey from Kentucky, all the way out to some maniac with very particular taste in cars haha. Always puts a huge smile on my face.
I jest ich coraz więcej na szczęście
@@Goczku I believe it. Warsaw is booming. Every time I go back, there are new buildings, new restaurants, etc. wonderful city for car spotting too.
@@AP-op4rc indeed bro we have a really sad war story but from day to another we are stronger
This brought great imagery to me, envisioning the Polish maniac waiting for his Vette.
@@chickenfishhybrid44 We have really like USA cars 👌😁 this is something more than UE shit with ecological limitations
such a shame this video was full of inconveniences, i love the corvette hope you get to drive one again and we get to see one on the ring again
Holy smokes this car ate the long uphill in the fast section for breakfast at almost 250 kph and still needed to use the whole track taking turns at decent speeds and with eargasmic v8 sound. This video was a treat. Ty Misha amd the owner for today's vid... shame about cooling issue tho. Glad you met one of your younger years' dream car even if briefly.
Just looking at his smile when he takes off on the first lap says it all. We all love the corvette no matter what 😂 it’s a legendary car
Damn that thing keeps pulling hard above 200kmh. What a beast of a car.
if you floor it. in 4th gear you can still lose traction. And that's stock without a cam or head work
And "Naturally Aspirated". Wild.
Yellow C6 Z06 here. Middle tunnel heat is normal no need to worry. Rear is not a solid axle, please correct ;-) Maybe next time. 7L NA, will always remain a benchmark! Have fun Misha! Like and always subscribed.
Blue C6 Z06 here. That tunnel gets hot as shit so I’m not surprised Misha was a bit worried. Hope to see him take one out again in the future.
I was here for that comment. Don't these have a transaxle anyways?
@@BOB24502 yes, they’re transaxle
@@WhisxBeerusThat's what I thought. I saw in another comment Misha replied to and said he meant to say leaf springs instead of solid axle.
@@BOB24502Transaxle variant of the more modern, popular Tremec TR-6060 manual trans.
Having owned a C5 ZO6 and driven a few C6 ZO6s on track… my consensus is they can be phenomenal on track, however…they will not take it out of the box so to say. Heat issues will always be there, even with stock power. Doesn’t take a whole lot to get that under control though, especially with the C6. They also benefit hugely from, at a minimum, different shocks/dampers. And although it does have independent rear suspension, it uses a transverse leaf spring front and rear that kind of “connects” one side of the car to the other, so if you hit a bump or curb with one side, it will transfer some of that energy. Not ideal, but even the C5/6R race cars used the leaf springs with great success.
All in all, fantastically fun cars but if you want it for serious track duty, budget for some durability mods before anything else. That, plus some relatively minor suspension tweaks and it’ll be one of the fastest and best sounding cars out there.
Love the content!
Unfortunately, if you're going to flog a C6Z on a racetrack, you really need cooling mods before adding any horsepower. Also the clutch master cylinders in these things aren't very good from the factory, if you have headers, your clutch pedal will get mushy and it won't shift very nicely. I put a Tilton clutch cylinder in mine and I can shift in about 0.25 seconds up at 7500 rpm. Hopefully someday someone brings you one that's well sorted for the racetrack. I think this car is set up adequately for the average enthusiast, but when someone like Misha hops in and really pushes it to the limit, that's when the issues show up.
100%. Doing that on my z06 currently. Lot of potential, everyone spends money on a heads, cam, header package when it should be going into coilovers, seats, and cooling
If the car is stock power (or just like headers), then cooling is not a problem. I used to track c6z06 at the ring, i only had headers and never had cooling issues.
Clutch issue is another problem, u have to flush the clutch fluid frequently, it gets dirty quick and causes sticky clutch.
The big item c6z06 needs at the ring is coilovers and gt3 aero. There used to a guy there (Dennis), who tracked one with gt3 aero, coilovers, semi slicks, stock power levels and he did 7:05 btg.
@@sleserginekolog1 good to know . What oil temps did you normally see around the ring
@@ivanvujosevic289 shit man, that was 10 years ago…. Around 225/230f oil by the end of the lap. Normal is like 212f.
I was gonna say, the stock car always stayed cool for me but I only fixed the heads without putting in a more aggressive cam or anything like that.
I love it when an engine sounds just as good coming down in revs during a shift as it does building them at full power! Cool video!
Has similar specs to a 458 and you can get a well maintained one for under 50k. Perfect achievable dream car
6:51 I literally just got the concept of heel-toe downshifting, from this part. Random but i couldn't help but watch and its perfect. To the sim rig!
The power was increased by approx. 100 hp, so I think the overheating may be less of an issue with the original 505 hp / 512PS, at least with original cooling.
Must have a serious cam in there
@@mitchellsteindler Surprisingly not. LS7s that "only" make 600 hp have what in the US would be considered a small cam. Also, the air intake manifold, headers, intake piping, and exhaust allone were probably worth 60 hp as well. Big cam LS7 cars are north of 700 hp but those are a lot more difficult to drive legally in Europe (not sure about Italy, but I assume it is similar to Germany and Austria where we can only get away with small cams when passing the emissions tests).
Yes. With those modes he needs to ceramic coat or wrap the headers and X-Pipe
@@big-Rconsider the chopping and msd intake and intake, I think he makes at least 550 on the wheel. I assume he has ported heads and high flow header, I think it is very possible he sits at 600 wheel. But most intake on the market will suck away air that should go into the radiator.
Vettes all have overheating issues, most guys in the states just add a small methanol injection kit to keep IATs down on the track, idk how easy it is to get methanol overseas though. Fenders with heat extractors and hood vents help a lot too to get stale air out. Better placement of the trans and oil cooler are also a must on the C5 and C6 imo, upgrading while you're at it is worth every penny.
What a monster, still insane even today 😍😍
The speedometer works exactly as my car's tachometer 😂
Hahaha the first thing owner ask after removing tha plastic part « but do you like the car? » 😂
Those cars are sick! Takes a good driver to reach anywhere near its potential, especially after upgrading heads/cam. You have about 650hp pushing 3100lbs/1400kg. If I remember right that car held the Nurburgring track record for its category at some point.
these cars are very fast and quite easy to get 650-700hp (crank) out of with NA mods, but cooling must be upgraded, better oil coolers, better radiator, better brakes++
I Had my c6z at Apex a couple of years ago Misha. but it still needed some more suspension mods to feel great. i think you would like a better sorted car alot :) For me as a rookie, my 600whp c6z was probably more than i needed :D
It doesn't overheat if you push it the american way, 400m by 400m
this car was NEVER intended to be a drag race car. NEVER.@@Kamui..
I didn't told that. @@ssnerd583
we need to see more of that e46 :)
Great lap, the C6 Z06 is a legend, my favorite vette for sure.
You can see the bit of plastic drop down on the brake pedal at 4:42, just over the bump. Scary stuff, especially at that part of the track.
@misha, i am currently building out my z06 and i am planning to send it out to EU to do a roadtrip from London to Belgrade. I plan on doing a pit stop at the ring for a few days.
Happy to let you drive it. Engine is stock, all the $ mods went into coilovers, cooling, seats, upgrading brakes, steering, and removing 100 kilos out of the car
Best screen setup ever, with the rev counters and the POV of the lap (oil temp was a bonus too). Keep it like this for all videos!
maybe reach out to LG Motorsports (Louis Gigliotti), they drop by the Ring every so often for testing of their C6s and theirs are much more suited to track use than this. Would really love to see yall hit the track with a properly prepped C6, AP brakes and GSpeed/LG suspension components help a ton
By far one of my favorite episodes. It shows how cars no matter how much you pour into them will always test your patience when you want to completely go ape shit with it on the track 😂 great video!
Ah yes, this is one thing I don't miss about my C6 Z06, that transmission tunnel. What little insulation there is behind the carpet falls down and then you're just a few inches away from the metal of the transmission tunnel, which is fantastic at blasting heat into the cabin. I put extra insulation behind the carpet and I put all the insulation on the underside of the car in the trans tunnel that I could possibly add. I was acceptable at that point.
I had a build C4 and it used to burn my heel it would get so hot
The C6Z06 is one of the last pure American sportscars with the big 427 NA engine and 6spd manual. Such a great car with so much character. Hate you had issues with this one, hope you can give it another go once its a little more sorted or possibly another one. LOVE the sound of that thing.
you can still buy new american sportscars with v8's and manual...
The C6 Z06 was also my dream car when I was about to drive the first years. Great to see it on the track. Nice gear ratio and incredible to handshift such a high powered car. Today you may only have automatic left in such power areas....
Love how Misha was able to understand what the owner was saying and finishing the sentences for him 😂
12:02 bottom right part - just so good 🙌
Misha really has balls of steel, respect.
Hey no brakes, a few seconds later put the gas pedal to the metal 😂😂😂👍💪
Suprised to see an Italian gentleman Driving a Gm product. Awesome video!
Heat, living if Florida, is one of reasons I prefer the C6 Grand Sport with the 6.2l over the 7.0l. The GS has all of the mods the Zo6 has minus the 7.0l. Less weight on the front is a bonus! Mine had 540/580 with just a few mild mods and, I ran 30 minute sessions at Sebring without over heating with 90+ degree weather. But, I must say, that thing is a beast! BTW, C6 plastic suxs! I had the seat back break under acceleration on mine! Chevy replaced it but, it was not a good thing!
ah but that LS7 with its titanium rods... a work of art in chevy terms:) but i agree... forced induction even the zr1 went with your block i think. probably thicker cylinder liners improving rigidity or thats my guess
Weight difference? The block is the same architecture they weight almost identical it’s a 6.2 VS 7.0 but the block is same architecture
ZO6 LS7 engine would weigh the same or less than an LS3 and the Z06 is aluminium chassis which is 50kg lighter than the Grand Sport steel frame. There are pro's and con's of each model but the Z06 wins hands down on the weight front.
You need to try ones of these but with magnetic suspension (Z07 package) or a C6 ZR1. It drives way better with it.
It's so cool to see people from all over europe come to you and even if they dont speak english that well they still try their hardest and it's always so wholesome, this community is great!
Misha, I don't know how to get my C6 Z06 to the ring from the US, but I am putting a new engine in mine that is going to be making over 700hp NA. I would love to tour Europe with it and when I do I'll put a set of Nankang AR1s on it for you to have a go.
Pls reach out to me when it happens!
LOL at your face and hand gestures @6:00. 😂
-Needs a DeWitts radiator with G-speed brushless big single Spal fan. Or Prospeed dual Spal brushless fan set up.
-Needs Giro disc 2 piece floating rotors if on a budget and running stock calipers. Many people will switch out the calipers to for harder track abuse like this. If the budget isn't an issue you want AP Racing full front brake kit.
- For the suspension you want at the very least a Johnny O'Connell stage 1 kit with the bigger stiffer sway bars. Adjustable rear. End links. Comes with tuned shock dampers too. Or if the budget is a bit more just get the sway bars separately. Ditch the leaf springs for a coilover kit setup.
The car will feel completely different & inspire way more confidence.
Would love to see Misha in a proper set up C6 with the above simple mods.
Z06 cooling issues are unfortunately nothing new. I'd imagine it's probably less of an issue without mods, as I haven't seen too many complaints about it. The C7 Z06 on the other hand is infamous for it, so much so that they heavily overcompensated with the C8 Z06. I think you'll be pleased to know the C8 Z06 was designed to be able to run at the track all day long with the AC on and no heatsoak, which has been corroborated by track tests of the car. Significant quality control improvement should also prevent any more loose plastic pieces, lol. Love to see corvette content even when it doesn't always work out.
I think stock c6 z06 z07 could perform better .
Took them way too many generations to sort it out. The c6 needs so much work to be track worthy.
@@Syncopia Really all it needs are tires and some coils, with the stock setup overheating isn't generally an issue like this, although a cooler wouldn't be wasted
Add thermal insulation, better oil cooler, better brake pedal assy., turn on A/C (or fix), convert to rear coil overs and try again.
That was a hell of driving. 👍🙂 The power and noise is absolutely amazing but it is quite surprising that Z06 is not more a track car. Anyway it was one of the videos which made me write a comment. 🤗
thnx!
@@mgcharoudin Was the exhaust back to the rear axle ceramic coated ?
The car was modded in various ways. Who knows how well the parts selection and tuning was done. I suspect that plastic cover coming down may have had something to do with some of the work at some point.
First, the brake pedal did not fail. The hush panel (or lower dash panel) failed. Second, I agree with @car_pal, the C6 does not have a solid rear axle. And third, any car that has not been properly modified or prepared will have some issues.
I love it when they're european and calm and not over the top American or English making a fuss for more clicks
Having a personality isn’t a bad thing
Making a fuss for more clicks? I think they are just being themselves.
With a car that has that much torque and a 7L Engine, you don't really need to downshift to 2nd especially as you are not used to the pedals position, you just power up in 3rd and the car will fly out of corners.
Car seems like a struggle.. That was the least smooth lap i've ever seen you drive Misha.. ❤😢
It was painful to watch! To many needless gear changes like it was a Honda.
He only needed 3rd and 4th for the most part, changing into 1st gear at times made no sense at all.
@@WeirdBrick that's because that gearbox has has so long ratios that you need to get used to it. Annoying af especially on track. On higher gears it just wouldn't go like you'd expect it
The torque curve for modified cam profile might not match the gear box.
One thing you need to know about American cars is that you have to drive them like you stole them.
@@WeirdBrickWith those tall gears he probably needed second at times too but I was thinking the same, way too much torque to need to shift like a little 4 banger requires. But being new to it I don’t blame him and with how hot it seemed in the cabin maybe it was just hard to think/focus
Cooling issues aside from a daily driver that was meant to deliver good wind tunnel results and fuel economy, the lap Misha laid down was a testament to the basic car's suspension/chassis prowess. Time and again I hear about "coilover" improvements but no one who has switched to coilovers on the C5 or C6 platform has documented actual handling improvements. The transverse leaf was a core design ingredient that provided enough competitive advantages to best cars costing more than twice as much (ie. Ferrari 458) on the track. For heavy, maximum output track use, the C5 and C6 platform would benefit greatly from improved airflow management through the front spoiler and through added hood vents. Oil coolers mounted behind the spoiler, upgraded radiators, and racing oil are an absolute must for this type of torture test use - stuff that was never contemplated in the original $50k "daily driver" GM brought to market.
Any modded cars need to be inspected to show they have oil coolers installed. The oil temp just kept climbing
Nah man
If he only drives cars with oil coolers = serious track cars only = less fun and variety
"Shitboxes" are often the most fun to watch
@@enfantterrible4868 How an oil cooler makes it less fun? It's just a mod to keep the car reliable. Lots of factory cars have them.
The C6 is such a good looking car, even in the more aggressive Z06 n ZR1 trims.
Alter das Ding geht wie Schmidt's Katze!🤩🤩❤️🔥🏎🇮🇹
One Very cool fact about this car is that from any other Corvette, it's back bumper or the whole back,it seems to be the smallest(in my opinion) and it's front is ginormous. Of course it's because it's American power(extremely big blocks or engines whatever) and I can say that because when I first saw it, I got amazed(of course because it's a very cool car) and because I hadn't seen it before then, I just couldn't think what car it was and If you don't believe it or not, If you see it for the first time,to your eyes,will seem such a giant car, but it's engine size, trolls you. Endly that was such a good lap!!!
The E46 was fast.
a little bit :D
The coolest Corvette ever built! It simply looks amazing! And the GIANT engine is just 👌
I love these cars. Nice shape, epic sound. I considered to buy one of this or a mustang mach1. I like them so much but they just have to much flaws to really be an option…at some point I couldnt sugercoat this any longer so I dont consider them anymore.
I havent bought „the“ car yet but i know now it will not be an american power one 😢. Still love to see snd hear them. 👍
I love a nice C5!
I'm from USA and people mostly think of them as Drag Race cars. People dont have any idea how well they have done in Le Mans and road road racing, etc....
The race version maybe but a race car is not only a big engine. Stock version is not very efficient on this track... Overheating problem, brakes... Slow gearbox 😮 and overtaken by BMW with less half of the power... 😂 yes we have no idea. But it's a nice car
Ahh the memories. Is the speedometer off or does it have a different 3rd and 4th gear or final drive? Mine went up to 250 in 4th gear, according to the speedometer. First and second gears matched normal values for these cars (1st gear 100 km/h, 2nd gear 160 km/h).
I've seen a C6 with AP brakes, Ohlins TTX, and better cooling mods and was going very well and reliably too. It also had a sequential box fitted at a later date and was even more savage then. Shame not very common in the UK due to being left hand drive but im moving to Dubai in a few months and will be getting one there.
What a car! what a sound! and the speed!!!
Thanks for showing the oil temperature, over course of one lap. Heat issue is a thing, made once 4 laps all after each other with no heat issues though. But weather was quite cold outside, has a huge effect for sure.
Wow the oil temperature rise was phenomenal 😂
Many(MANY) years ago....had a 1968 Firebird 400 H.O. 4MT, that was highly modded....had an incident where an adult beverage bottle got under the brake pedal at an inopportune time....I stomped the pedal hard enough to break the bottle and NOT crash, badly.....lol I still have nightmares about that one...o_0
Poor quality car but, raw sound and insane acceleration, realy emotional car. Thanks for sharing Misha
Classic corvette issue, had similar thing happen to me in my C5 Z06
I mean a stuck brake pedal is better than no brake pedal 🤷♂
Depends! When braking and turning at the same time, it makes the car understeer. Or completely go straight. You don't want that... Especially not there!
@@mgcharoudin Also true. I had some moments with my Jazz (that you droven when it was still stock earlier this year) were people wanted to pass me Into corners, but Just stayed beside me way to long, so my car just got way to unstable because i had to reduce my speed way to much in corner.
It's common in C6 owners (who track their car regularly) to swap out the stock radiator with a much larger aftermarket option and change out the thermostat to a lower temp range plus retune the fan controller so they turn on at a lower temp. The LS engines run hot and remain hot with sustained high rpm driving, which is their only downfall as after the right cooling upgrades along with some valve train upgrades, they can handle much higher rpms than the 7k of the LS7. Many LS builders that stay NA go for a redline somewhere between 7200 all the way to 9000 depending on the build purpose and budget. Loved this video as I too own a C6 (manual grand sport)!!!
Presumably a lower temp thermostat is only going to affect warm-up and and town driving ... on the track it's surely going to be fully open all the time!
He felt that American power and now see why we as Americans love our v8s lol
And why most people dont care.. did you not see the video? They tried twice to complete a single lap.. 😮😢
@@sub7up. More like bad luck twice (plastic piece and gopro), and insufficient cooling for a modified car.
@@sub7up. lol exactly 🤣👍
@@sub7up. Stop hating, america and europe both make amazing cars for the track.
To say otherwise just shows a lack of knowledge.
@@Mr.Rotala Yeah.. Thats why 95% of the cars at the ring is German or Japanese and 5% is italien and american cars...
I've been waiting for a video on the c6 z06 from you for ages! So excited to watch this lap
This brutal power and this great torque is simply a dream for the race track *...*
It’s a shame Misha didn’t ride that torque low down, instead he drove it like a Honda changing gear about 3 times more than he needed to!
Bizarre as he’s usually right on it!
Whoever reinstalled, the performance parks did not do them correctly on this car number 2. If you're going to track it, there are spots for the transmission and differential, of course, also a spot for an oil cooler for The Dry stump, the heat Shields were not installed correctly on the transmission channel. The car should not got that hot inside whatsoever. Also whoever worked underneath the dashboard, never put back. The correct pieces for the break to get stuck like that. Like I said, whoever worked on the car doesn't seem like they knew how to work on a Corvette. Also, that car should be switched over to coilovers and the stock brakes needed different brake pads. Upgraded fluid
And you can make the car break a lot harder without them. Heating up that way on my C6Z06 I could do 10 to 15 laps at Sebring. And it was a heads and cam car.
Imagine a Z06 Ringtool 🥵
Goals
This is what is ALL about. Who cares if the car is not the fastest around the ring. The sound and emotion is what realy is worth it in the end
C6 Z06 Corvettes are rock solid cars, but only Stock, with just a aftermarket Exhaust system, there is no point reving it up to 7.000 rpm, maximum power and torque already at 6200 rpm. Mischa is a good driver but does not know the Z06 C6 very well, thats a fact.
A Proud C6 Z06 owner👍
Independent rear Misha, but Corvette uses a traverse leaf and independent dampers... very simple to, and completely transforms the rear road holding, when you swap out to a rear coilover.... it's a simple bolt in swap.
For the Ring, she needs a square wheel and tire setup (F-10.5 315/R-10.5-11 315 ), better trans and oil coolers, Tick or MGW shifter, pads, fluid. Done, unless you want some aero, which there's plenty available from mild to wild, including chassis mount stanchions for rear wings from some random company called Vulcan Alpha 🤔😅
That, plus a simple set of seats and small Trackspec Trackday 4-point bolt in roll bar and belts and you're good to go 👌🏻
Greta is crying every time you press the accelerator in this car :D
These things actually get better fuel economy than most other performace cars. Even with like 200hp less (at least when it comes to freeway crusing in 6th gear)
The old saying Never meet your Idols eh :-)
Loved the lap although I was chuckling a bit when the trim caused the pedal issue, C6 I've played with on smaller tracks and I drove a Z06 around 4 laps on a fairly tight course, the power is a lot of fun but like most US cars of the era straight line speed was great but handling and braking were the sacrifice and the owner I drove for had only recently imported the car and was waiting for a RHD conversion so I was the test pilot.
Fit and finish was not very good and I suggested a workshop who made suitable mods, Baer brakes, better adjustable suspension, Titanium exhaust, Ceramic coating etc and a lot of engine cooling mods AND persuaded the owner to leave it Left hand Drive to easier work in with the massive US aftermarket and the result was way better but sacrificed much of the Vette interior and accessories although he did keep the Air con :-)
Full General Motors experience. Awesome engine, car falling apart lol
Sounds about right haha
That BowTie sounds crisp n goes lovely 👍👍😎
I’d be embarrassed that car wasn’t ready
The rear quad taillight will forever be my love for the c6 gen Corvette
Oke? Oke.
If you search on YT Corvette C6 nurburgring you would find couple of guys maybe 3 or 4 that share or had shared their onboards on the ring, they have those mods you mentioned as the car is 70 tracktool 30 off track and the car is absolutely an animal!
The C6 generation regardless of engine really benefits from hood venting and an aftermarket radiator for extended track use, the center console on these cars gets stupid hot and there's a fix for that too. Unfortunately Chevy didn't design the front end very well and a lot of high pressure air gets stuck in the engine bay with no where to go which hurts cooling and creates about 90lbs of lift around 120-140mph.
The owner is such a nice genuine dude. Awesome vid bro
The corvettes have always had cooling issues the heat never leaves the engine bay . A friend of mine altered his engine hood and added more cooling heat sinks under the car for the transmission and brakes to fix the problem .
Official 2012 z06 ring time ( cup2 tires ) - 7: 22 ( could be found on youtube ) . I guess it's not such a bad car .7: 22 It was something 11 years ago and I think it still is. I defend the brand because I have a ZR1 in my garage :)
Quite impressive how you manage the situation, i bet when you felt the pedal get stuck your heart sinked. Its amazing how its all without traction control.
So I've owned a C5 and C6 non Z06's. It's not a solid rear, it's on a transverse leaf spring. Suspension can be made fully independent with just a set of coil overs. Cooling and brakes are a must with those cars as well. Power is thankfully something they don't lack for and as stated in the C7 video, the gearing has the same problem. A base model transmission has the best gear set when paired with a 3.9 gear, really wakes those cars up. Other then that the chassis is great as long as you get your hands on a coil overs. That really is the big "limitation", but once you do that it "fixes" the transverse rear crosstalk they wake up.
The stock suspension is fully independent. Although the transverse spring is one piece, it acts independently on each side of the car, as the center of the spring is clamped rigidly to the differential/subframe assy and therefore doesn't transfer force from one side to the other.
@@davidlamb7979 idk if you've drive one before and after with the leaf spring and then again after coils, but from ownership it's a completely different car. When you hit a curb or some kind of bump in the road with that "independent" leaf spring you feel the shift in the back of the car. Even feels better street driving. Coils are key to that car.
@@JC7119 Going from stock suspension to coil-overs you're changing the shocks too. So how are you determining the change you feel is all due to the springs, and not the shocks? Going from stock shocks to a high-quality performance shock that's properly tuned makes a huge difference in suspension performance, with nothing else changed. From a mechanical/engineering standpoint, there's no reason a coil spring would work any better than a transverse leaf spring, spring rate being the same. The difference in spring feel is likely from the fact that the leaf spring loads are transferred to the rear diff subframe, which is mounted with rubber bushings to dampen vibration, whereas the coil-overs are transferring spring loads directly to the chassis.
I can feel the muscle and freedom air
The Corvette does not have a solid rear axle . It has a weird torsion bar system for suspension . But it's dual wishbone fully independent suspension front and rear . The Z06 has a rather large sway bar , maybe that and the torsion bar system just makes it feel like a solid axle .
That car is poorly modified to the point you would appreciate a stock one much more. They don't have a straight axle but a mono leaf. I tracked my c6 zr1 completely stock with zero issues and drift my c6 grand sport with just a radiator and thermostat. Hope you get to experience one that's better sorted so you can truly appreciate the car/chassis. I'd recommend that guy try a dewitts rad, 180 thermostat, some true coilovers and gosh idk about the brakes maybe just go back to stock 🤷♀️ respect for getting into other ppls jelopies and sending it lol
C6 Zo6 is my favorite corvette ever, such an icon with that 7.0 N/A v8