Curious fault #1
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2018
- Nailing a nuisance trip!
Filmed on a mobile phone so apologies for the cack audio. Before commenting on my leaving exposed live copper on site; I didn't as I'm not a moron. I don't know why I didn't film the my resolution to that on the day, I wish I had as it would have saved me keep answering that query! Most questions or controversies this video may raise have likely already been addressed in the comments, so have a scroll through before bashing away at the keyboard!
Apologies also to NAPIT members; I'm really not getting at you all despite how my phrasing in this unscripted video comes off. I used to be a NAPIT member myself, but I left because in my local area they seem to let just about anybody join, despite demonstrably poor standards by some of my rivals. I even took one to task and made an official complaint on behalf of one of my clients, for which NAPIT did nothing. I felt I couldn't remain associated with them while they were soiling their own brand in my area: it's simply bad for business, and I am running a business here. My perception of the problem may be a localised one, but I can't deny the fact that I keep getting called out to undo poor work by iffy installers who NAPIT say make the grade. More on the particular incident which forced me to leave them can be found on my website here: www.dses.co.uk/index.php/pers...
I believe the fact that it is TNS means that there is a slight potential difference between Neutral and Earth. Neutral bar will be isolated by the double pole RCD but not the MCBs so that explains why your RCD being switched off cuts the fault out.
Hi David, good video. Agree the work was very poor. I'm with NAPIT doesn't mean to say we're all useless tho. I've seen work carried out by NICEIC contractors that's been pretty awful.
Fault current when everything is off is due to current coming in on the neutral from other properties because I noticed it's a TN-S
While calling others a knobhead, if that exposed incoming copper concerned you so much you could have temporarily removed the fuse (which you pointed out had no seal), released the tail from the consumer board and slid some sheathing (or even heatshrink tubing if thick enough) down to the end you can't move on the meter, then put the tail back into the board for now. As you didn't I assume you followed up with the homeowner after passing on this info too as we all know homeowners tend to think "it will be ok". Also, the wire that had the nail through, there is a high possibility of damage to the conductors further down from the other nails so you could have replaced the section from where you opened up the wall to into the board and disconnected then cut the potential faulty length of cable. I probably wouldn't have mentioned but you went on so much about others knobheadery yet left a bare live conductor exposed and a possibly damaged cable when you could easily have done something.
I always tell my customers our trade has no vanity value, this was explained to me by my wife who at the time worked in sales training, and consequently its reflected in what people want to pay . I've never known a customer ask there friends over to look at a socket or CU, also when your working around one of those lovely fitted kitchen or bathrooms check for any scratches photograph them and point out to customer before you start.
RE; the meter tails. You could have fixed it if you wanted to. There is no crime involved by removing the main fuse, it is perfectly legal to do so. Are you seriously saying you've never removed a main fuse in your career?
is the capping earthed?
Just proves tbat capping does nothing. Its there only to protect the plasters.
That line termination on the meter has got to be some form of prosecution / fine,Hard i know to prove 5 years down the track,These switchboard upgrades should last customers many years but too many cowboys are giving us a bad name ,We need to hit them also in the hip pocket not just default notices
Surely there must be some authority that you can report these people too for obvious dangerous installations like this?
The most used six words in the building industry :- "Who the F**king hell did this?"
Hi...great vid..i am just a Domestic Installer accredited to Stroma and when I see work like this it boils my piss....I take my job very seriously and love everyday...but when you have to start explaining to the client that the last sparky was a bit shoddy and there is work that needs putting right, sometimes you get the feeling that they think your trying to charge them extra to put right work that has been fine for the last few years.....all because you have a conscience......keep up the good work and I hope you have sent NAPIT the vid
im an niceic approved contractor..and this is why i quit electrics...most of my customers were only interested in cheap prices...and didnt even want me to put right shabby workmanship ...even when it was dangerous...the final straw came when a light fitting in a rental unit had big holes in it and was hanging off the ceiling...and i was tring to replace and customer said no..he wants to use duct tape... on top of that i used to get 1 in 3 quote jobs....soon after everyone started bringing in europeans i was getting 1 in 10....not only that but i ended up signing off work for polish builders and making them fix stuff...and i got pissed off when one of the electricians was a hairdresser with 1 months experience..and the other one had just finished art college...and about a months experience... they got the job at their rates...and i didnt....so i quit and went into networking.
That symbol is not a garden sprinkler. It's an angel. You'll be joining if you rely on this workmanship.
I am also an electrician and I have to admit it really pisses me off when I see badly wired consumer units - I have a bit of OCD by the way. I also find it shocking to see part of the meter tail exposed which can be really dangerous - especially if the client has small children who tend to fiddle around with things. Overall, just like you said I think this is shockingly shit and it really makes my blood boil how certain "electricians" can get away with something dodgy like this!!
Hi Dave . When we moved into our house 8 yrs ago , we were issued an inspection report that stated a perfect installation by an accredited company ****IC but upon further inspection I found many faults and at that time I was **ecsa accredited , so I corrected accordingly. In this country we have so many accreditation bodies and regulations but still end up with bloody awful installs and don't get me started on the inadequacies of Part P. Love your video's, keep em coming. DC I.Eng MIET
Hi David, what a 'dogs breakfast' of a job!! My sympathies trying to put that one right indeed. I had the same situation last year in regard to the exposed tail at the meter, so I contacted SSE here in the sunny south and they they told me to break their seals and 'get on with it!' then just stick a label near it, stating my name, registration and the date! How times have changed! Love all your work and videos, have never laughed so much (the job in Brum with all the fighting and gunfire is my all time favourite 😆), a truly educating and entertaining experience every time!
My sentiments exactly David. Poor consumer has to kiss a lot of frogs to get to an able and responsible Sparky.. I built a reputation on it and worked for Joe public for 14 years. I wasnt cheap but they had the faith in me..something i took very seriously. Keep up the good work mate keep yourself straight and honest and you'll be better for it.
I must admit that from the CU into the main cable run in the floor is one area I would not want my cables buried in the wall! My current house is surface mount for all that (it's in a cupboard so that's fine)
good vid