It started with the offseason. In a vacuum, letting go of Goodrow and trying to trade Trouba were good ideas. But Drury went about it the wrong way. It ended up angering the players and his memo to the league made it worse.
@@tehbeernerdhe did not, he got 12m off the books for nothing. If this core is “hurt” by these decisions then they should blow it up and take their talents elsewhere. They’ve always had the problems they’re dealing with right now, they’re just older and Igor is being less consistent to patch up the mistakes
Self sabotage by Drury. He sent that memo out to the rest of the NHL the day after the Edmonton loss, and everybody else knew about in about 24 hours. That loss against the Oilers was their first back-to-back loss of the season, and the GM was putting up a For Sale sign. Not surprised things spiraled after that.
The Rangers have been playing with fire for years now. They've been a team for years now that gets out-worked and out-chanced but are bailed out by Vezina caliber goaltending
The Rangers never did a true rebuild. Signing Trouba and Panarin the year after they sent out “The Letter” made sure of that. The Buchnevich trade was at the time, and still remains, a total disaster. They still haven’t replaced him all these years later. Reilly Smith? lol. This team was never properly built to win a cup. Their defense in front of Igor is atrocious. They are soft, physically and mentally, and without leadership. Blow it up Dolan, if you even care.
@@TheSmegmagician They weren't a playoff team that year. Because of covid there was one more round before regular playoffs. Draft lottery decided to give 1st overall to the team that will lose this pre-playoff round. Panthers, Oilers, Wild, Predators, Penguins, Toronto and Jets had chance to win a lottery.
trading your captain in the middle of the season in a year when you have cup aspirations is just dumb, I get why you don't want Trouba the player, but that means you already massively fucked up paying him so much AND making him the fucking captain, winning a cup is an absolute gauntlet, how you expect to run it without a doggedly determined leader is beyond me. Every champ I can remember has THE GUY, or hell, a few of them. Rags literally have none, Panarin, Zib, Fox, these guys need to lead yet it looks like they just want to follow.
This team had Igor bail them out so much during 21-22 that they forgot they needed to play defense at all. They never played defense once under Gallant. Then this team gave Lavi 10 games at the start of last season where they played defense and then decided they were too good to play defense anymore. This is a team that just at it's core is lazy and careless and only wants to hunt for fancy cross ice passing plays while being bailed out by HOF goaltending.
Team chemistry is so important. Seattle blowing up the Rangers and Seattle getting blown up the same way by the Sharks the week before, the difference was chemistry and morale. Mind you, we didn't have a massive organizational change, just a major line shuffle and some healthy scratches, but the difference it makes is big.
Rangers looked indestructible last year, until they ran into the Panthers in the playoffs. Whatever flaws they had were easily offset by timely goals and timely saves. The fall from last year's high to where they are today is just remarkable. If I knew how to fix this, I would probably be employed by the Rangers or Predators.
I don't blame Lavs for this. He's a good coach and was in Washington. He just seems to be repeatedly brought in with a "win now" situation, where the team is already been built as a veteran top 6 team and only needs to worry about winning games and the cup. Drury hasn't done him any favors by messing with the team chemistry and leadership despite not really needing to. Even now, the Rangers are in a #8 playoff spot in the east and nobody is really threatening them - Boston, Ottawa, Buffalo, Detroit, all seem to be going nowhere. A 3-4 game win streak and everyone forgets this happened. Trying to make these changes has messed up the locker room and Lavs is not the kind of coach to be able to fix that kind of problem. He was brought in to win games and not repair team chemistry. It's probably going to be up to the players to get things together. Hopefully they can do so before they lose too many standings points.
This team has a habit of hiring a new coach, having success for the first season or two, and then quitting on the coach. Vignault, Gallant, and now Laviolette (not counting Quinn during the rebuild). All three of those coaches made it to the conference or SC finals, and the team quit on all 3 shortly thereafter. This current team had/has their veterans playing poorly (Trouba, Zibanejad, Kreider, Fox, Miller, Lindgren, Smith etc), while the youngsters are blossoming (Cuylle, Lafreniere, Schneider, Jones, Kakko, Chytil etc). You only win when you have both veterans and youngsters playing well at the same time. I'm sure they'll "reward" this team by firing Laviolette and giving them a new coach to quit on.
It doesn't matter who the coach is I actually want them to hire Quenneville so they realize that it's the roster and management and ownership hating rebuilds, but then they'll make some excuse like hockey has changed since the Blackhawks dynasty or something
The coach needs to coach. If there's a player who for whatever reason doesn't like his methods, then that player should ride the bench for a period, a game, a week. Until he figures out the coach has the final say because he's got the job and you don't! Not naming names (93) because he knows he deserves a good benching
@@hogberry That's definitely something I can blame on Laviolette. He doesn't even curtail veteran's ice time, let alone bench or scratch them. Mika definitely needs to take a seat. Miller too. That said, most coaches these days are "players' coaches".
Prime example, Zibanejad is a -4 and played 20:19 TOI, plays the PP with nothing to offer, plays the empty net 6v5 and misses simple chances. Yet consistently EVERY GAME he’s rewarded by playing top line minutes while playing worse than Sam Carrick.
This effing team has fallen off a cliff so steep that even Wile E. Coyote is feeling bad for them. The lack of effort and will to compete is staggering. We are watching Space Jam in the NHL. F me this is getting to me.
@@QueensNewYorkguy Because the hype get's nauseating in NY when the Rangers are even adequate. It's funny how people talk so much crap about the NYY but the city has a lot of Mets fans as well and it's not as one sided as people believe. But take that NYC arrogance and funnel it into one fanbase and that's the NYR. Isles fans are much less so. Maybe it's their Long Island origins, though I grew up in North Jersey when the Devils were the Rockies. I've always despised the entitlement of Rangers fans.
@@anticensorshipsociety1063You have never met any real Rangers fans in the case. Get off the internet lmao. Real Rangers fans are the most pessimistic fans I know. Most don’t believe they will ever win a cup due to the ownership.
@@anticensorshipsociety1063 The old joke about Ranger fans is they have Yankee arrogance with Met result. The thing about Mets vs. Yankees as opposed to Islanders vs. Rangers (or Devils) is that the Mets actually were once THE team in NY. I remember as a kid going to a Met game in Shea Stadium and they had 50+ thousand fans, then going to Yankee stadium the next week, on a Sunday, and they had 10-15,000. That lasted from around 1965-75 so I always think all Met fans are old boomers. The Islanders were never the team in NY, even when they were winning Stanley Cups. They always just had a cult following, even on Long Island.
Zibanejad's decline is the biggest reason for this stretch. His 5v5 production went first, and now his PP production has also plummeted, leaving him with little offensive upside. Under Laviolette he became more of a "shutdown" center and was fairly successful in that aspect of his game last season. Now this season even his defense is completely shot. He makes terrible turnovers he didn't make in the past, he looks slow tracking back through the neutral zone, and in general he just looks lost out there. There are obviously more problems than just ZBJ with this team but he's our 1C, he needs to play better or there is no hope for this team. And as far as moving him, he has a full NMC until 2030 so you can't even threaten to waive him like they did to Trouba. So he just needs to figure it out
Mika and Miller are absolute disasters. Fundamentals are lacking across the board. Not completing passes, whiffing on shots, over skating the puck, constantly missing coverage. They don’t look like NHLers.
I'm supposed to be a Rangers fan and have been mad at them since 2021 when Dolan destroyed the rebuild in favor of wasting time in the playoffs Every single loss, I feel more vindicated
Rarely in my lifetime have the Rangers sucked. I had no idea they were going to fall off this season, especially after winning the Presidents' Trophy last season! What a time.
@@InsignificantNick lol, you must be pretty young because the pre-lockout rangers were terrible. Never bad enough for the 1st overall pick, but bad enough to miss the playoffs consistently. And this was before the salary cap, when they always had the highest payroll(UFA age was 31) in the league.
@@nyyfanvkamath The Salary cap was the best thing that ever happened to the Rangers under Sather. Forced him to actually think and not just throw money at Free Agents.
@@HDreamer he still had a habit of awful contracts for aging vets(Redden, Gomez, Richards, etc.) and GMs would always bail him out as a trade partner which unfortunately continues to this day because of the bargaining power the Rangers have with vets who refuse to go elsewhere. It probably still affects the rangers to this day that they went four straight years without a 1st towards at end of his tenure.
I am still going with Nashville. Playoff team, gets free agents, and is the worst team in the league this year? Rangers were in the top 10 for sure east/west, but they can still easily finish in the playoffs. Rangers not making the playoffs, but finishing below Buffalo. Then its the biggest collapse.
Waiving Goodrow was a mistake. Sure he was playing poorly to his contract in the regular season, but he was giving it all in the playoffs and was clearly an important guy in the locker room.
You definitely did not watch him last year then. I watched him for 82 games, he was not only playing bad, he was a complete black hole for the 4th line and was a liability on both ends. Dude literally had a stretch of scoring 1 goal in 72 games. A few playoff goals does not cover that up. If this core viewed him as a leader, then that speaks more about this core than the overall shitshow this season. Enough with the “good for the locker room” bs. We’ve had too many of those guys for too many years now and we have 0 Cups to show for it in the last 30 years. The Panthers lost their Hart candidate and what did they do to follow it up? A Finals and a Cup. Play better and be better
Zibanejad needs to go and Miller has been absolutely awful this season. I do not understand how laviolette still continues to play Zibanejad on the 1st PP and at 6v5. Will Cuylle out Filip chytil deserve to be out there way more than Mika.
Miller has been this bad every season, he just had Trouba covering for him. He decided he's not doing that any more and now with the rest of the team in the dumps too, it's just more obvious now. He's not now and never has been an NHL level defensemen. His only concern on the ice is how to not get hit, which he is very successful at. I think he's only been hit 3 times this whole year. Most NHL D get hit 3 times on a shift. So he really is amazing, just terrible at hockey.
I firmly believe Mika isn't the Rangers' biggest problem. Yes, he has had a rough start to the season, but he has had flashes of good play. Miller, on the other hand, has been dogshit all season. I've never loved him, but his play this year has been horrible. Lindgren hasn't been great either, leaving Fox, Jones, and Schneider as the only capable defensemen (Mancini can be included in this as well). Drury needs to trade one of them, preferably Miller, and acquire someone who can actually play defense. Offense is not the Rangers' issue, defense is. Shesterkin and Quick can't stop 30+ shots a night.
Imagine that...being held accountable. Players can avoid being "treated" that way by playing better and earning their paycheck. This group has quit on their last several coaches after having initial success. Vignault, Gallant, and now Laviolette (not counting Quinn during the rebuild). All three of those coaches made it to conference or SC finals, and the team quit on all 3 within a year or two.
@robcrilley592 players put NTC in their contracts so that they can avoid going somewhere they don't want. Drury took a cheap loophole and did it to 2 players in 6 months time. Players know that if they underperform that they can be traded, but Drury basically moved Goodrow to San Jose via waivers since they were the only ones who wanted him but he had them on his no trade list. Basically threatened Trouba with the same.
I think your 100% correct about your last 2 min... look at Capitals. They held their heads up high and cool when the wind was blowing really hard last season.. and this year they are doing great!
Suprised you dont have Miller on the board who has consistently been the worst defenseman on the team all season long. And yes, Cuylle is far and away our best player this season with an honorable mention to Chytil. Kakko has been playing pretty well to be fair. As far as goaltending goes, they can only do so much when the opponents have free access to the slot all game long as much as they want. Even defending the rush, they still manage to make it harder for the goaltender by not taking away the pass or the shot, just something in between, confusing the netminder. I will agree with the team is not built to win, it was built not to lose. And now they can't even manage that. The most scary thing is that they have had an incredibly soft schedule so far.. so, by this pace they'll go from 2 wins away from the SCF to a bottom 5 team in the league in 1 year. That in itself is sort of impressive.
Thanks for the video! Blackhawks caught a break playing them at their low ebb. I had thought the Shesterkin signing would turn things around for them right away.
As a Devils fan, can't say I'm too upset about this. As a hockey fan, I think that some of these more "ruthless" decisions started with Vegas and the moves its made jettisoning players for nothing since their inception. At first, didn't catch on and then they won a cup, so some other teams likely took notice. Tampa played hardball with Stamkos, and that appears to have worked for them, then Drury with Goodrow in the Summer as mentioned in the video followed by Trouba as well. It's interesting to watch and I'm curious if this shift away from that mindset of having "loyalty" to the players vs loyalty to the team's long-term success will continue and other teams will follow suit. That being said, making all of these public statements and announcements doesn't really serve a practical purpose. It's obviously not helping the players/team focus on the game and if you're looking for a move, other teams know that and can try to leverage it as well. I don't think the Rangers roster is that poorly constructed and I do think this 10 game sample is an overexaggeration and will likely lead to overcorrection. I don't think that this will have as much of an impact on signing FA's though (even though I hope it does). It's still an original six team in the biggest metropolitan area in the country.
You trade Mika zabenajiad, then fire your GM and coach. New coach, new GM and use the cap space from truba to pick up. Two-way, defenseman and two-way forwards
I wish Dolan would stop caring about hockey It's thanks to him they abandoned the rebuild in 2021 to go on fluke playoff runs instead of trying to grow the team and acquiring more players like Michkov and Bedard
@@kennysdead500 my biggest fear since Dolan took over MSG was that he would start to pay attention to the Rangers. Since 2000 when he took over, Knicks had worst record in NBA overall and his hands were in everything.
@@kam8205 It sucks Hopefully the Knicks being decent (which I don't think they are, I miss the 2012-13 team and the old NBA lol) keeps him at bay, but it's going to be hard to get a new GM that's willing to rebuild and defend it There also needs to be better development coaches and scouts Hartford is terrible and the Rangers seem to only do any good with NHL ready NCAA and KHL players (preferably, I want KHL players only, but that's besides the point lol)
K'Andre Miller had an absolute disaster-class of a sequence on the Hawks second goal last night. Except for his D-partner who engaged "oh shit" mode, every other Ranger was just blankly staring - as if the broadcast camera had already panned to the other side of the ice.
It's been painful. They havent played with fire for years and any flame they had has been extinguished. The only thing I can smile about is our future core of Igor Laf and Perrault
If Dolan didn't ruin the rebuild, we might have Michkov and Bedard, but nooooooo we had to have fluke playoff runs when dynasty Tampa and Florida exist and the stupid President's Trophy (maybe the trophy's curse is what they need to return to a proper rebuild)
Drury is losing my confidence quickly. Goodrow and Trouba's contracts were bad, but it would be hard to script a worse handling of trying to get away from those bad contracts in terms of team cohesion and chemistry. Now he's got cap space from dealing Trouba, and what's he going to do with it? Besides enrage the Sens I guess? He needs to do something with this cap space or it's all for nothing. And the random guys he keeps bringing in shows me again and again that he has no idea what the team needs or who will fit. And then the Igor deal...yeah, goaltending is absolutely not the problem right now, or really ever. And yeah, someone was going to give Igor that contract. But 20 years into the Rangers being a club with elite goaltending and then a pocket full of hope that all the other shortcomings of the team will just go away, everyone that doesn't have a Penn Plaza office has figured out that goaltending can stop you from losing but it can't make you win. So for me, banking that hard on Igor underscores how far the Rangers are from being a consistently good team rather than a team that goes on hot streaks and then falls off a cliff for weeks at a time. Great, we've locked down an A+ goalie for 8 years with a huge cap hit, signaling a lack of seriousness from Drury about improving the team overall. I would have at least entertained the thought of downgrading from Igor if it meant finally getting serious about building consistency.
If you wanna change the NTC rule change the cap rule for the playoffs. Or at least make it so you have to play IE 50 games MINIMUM in the regular season to be eligible for playoffs.
The last 10 games of the Rangers are exactly what is being said here, no heart, playing virtually no defense, and Laviolette needs to (but isn't) breaking the Rangers down to the basics - players will respond when ice time is the reward - your lesser players get more ice time for effort and hustling - the star players will soon pay attention to being "bench butts" and not on the ice. Just my opinion but it always seems to work that way for the other teams.
Laviolette gets fired next if there's no turnaround. After that, I think they go through with the retool. Trades for Kreider and Zibanejad, if that doesn't work, then it's gotta be a rebuild.
I know this is Rangers talk, but I just got to say thanks again to the Oiler's management for letting both Broberg and Holloway go. Initially Broberg was amazing and now Holloway has become one of our best players. Thanks Edmonton!
Some words for the rangers fans out there, when Coach Lavi was with us, Caps finished tied for first in his first season, WC2 in his second because of a strong start, and fell completely apart in his third. Not saying he's a bad coach, but there seems to be a trend going on.
I don't think NYR should panic. This team played really well last year and they can turn it around. Panic in late January if it hasn't and then maybe think about trading Mika, etc.
YOU DO A AWESOME SERVICE YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ALL TEAMS YOUR HOCKEY I.Q IS OFF THE MAP ...I AM A LIFELONG RANGER FAN AND YOU ARE SPOT ON WITTH THE RANGERS
I'm not sure that publicly threatening to trade players and punting your captain is the hearts and minds strategy that Rangers management think it is. This is a "the beatings will continue until morale improves" situation in New York and short of firing Drury it's not going to get better. At a certain point you have other players start to spend more time wondering when they're getting traded than focusing on their game. But at least Shesterkin got paid though.
Rangers have always depended on the PP WAY too much, Mika is God awful unless he is on the PP and Panarin is the only one I find with REAL talent on the squad besides Shesterkin
Rag fans keep whining and lamenting about Zibanejad and Miller. I get it, they've been bad. But Panarin is the guy who's let you down in the playoffs. Unlike Kreider, who seems to be the next guy everyone wants to trade. Laf has been awful since signing his deal. It all feels pretty arse-backwards. I'd trade Panarin. You can get a return for him. Maybe this team forgot the idea isn't to win the LolRegularSeasonChampionship banner. Or don't. The drama is pretty entertaining.
Drury is trying to do something you typically see in the summer. They’ve been needing to make some tweaks to the roster for awhile, and now he’s trying to do something that’s interrupting the locker room. We all knew Lindgren was going to breakdown and LHD needed to be upgraded. We all knew they play too much on the perimeter and don’t go hard to the net.
As a Canes fan, this is nice to see, but a lot being said is also jamming us up on our recent struggles. Complete Defensive liability and giving up multiple breakaway chances do not make for W’s.
As my team is mediocre again this year...this Isles fan approves this video. This might be the best part of our season this year - watching the Rags fall flat on their face again.
Hey man i need to know, what is your favorite team that you root for? You are a godsend to the hockey community.. Thank you for all that you do. I watch your videos and im up to date with what's going on.
rangers have disappeared into the black hole ,drury couldn't manage a pee wee team ,we're playing like el stinko ,dealt the captain & giving shitzerkin $90 million $$ was bad idea , we gave up 7 goals to kracken and then lost to chicago , we have no grit, no one gives a rat's ass on defense to help goalie's out. all the trade talk took our heart out , shannon says we don't have a real hard schedule , hell , we just lost to the blackhawks FFS ..we're toast
Hey hockey guy I saw your video. A lot of stuff makes sense but you mentioned trading advantage unfortunately he can’t be traded. He has a full 100% non-movement clause so he cannot be traded as much as I wish we could at least entertain the possibility he ain’t going nowhere unless he waves is no trade and from what I read, there’s no shot he’s gonna do thatbut thanks for the thought anyway
Hey hockey guy I saw your video. A lot of stuff makes sense but you mentioned trading Mika Zibanejad unfortunately he can’t be traded. He has a full 100% non-movement clause so he cannot be traded as much as I wish we could at least entertain the possibility he ain’t going nowhere unless he waves is no trade and from what I read, there’s no shot he’s gonna do thatbut thanks for the thought anyway
Seeing Washington thrive with the young players that Laviolette wouldn't play, is the sweetest victory. Watching the Rangers fail is just the cherry on top. 😎
Shannon, itt's not so much the defense as much as it is TEAM defense. They have forwards who refuse to play a 200 foot game and can't check their hats. It leaves the defensemen and goalies exposed. I have been a Rangers fan my whole life (I am 79) and they are nothing but paper tigers, that gets exposed in the playoffs, because they aren't built to win in the playoffs. There are only a few physical players on the team, now with Trouba gone, it's even worse. Since Zib signed his big extension, his play has really tailed off. Too many fat cats on the team?
Also, another point on Trouba, he refused a trade to his hometown during the offseason. Detroit wasn’t on his 15 no trade anyways. He caused the entire situation himself.
Every Team goes through a Ugly Stretch at some point in the Season. but this one for the rangers especially is baffling
Gutless
Too old and slow
It started with the offseason. In a vacuum, letting go of Goodrow and trying to trade Trouba were good ideas. But Drury went about it the wrong way. It ended up angering the players and his memo to the league made it worse.
@@tehbeernerdhe did not, he got 12m off the books for nothing. If this core is “hurt” by these decisions then they should blow it up and take their talents elsewhere. They’ve always had the problems they’re dealing with right now, they’re just older and Igor is being less consistent to patch up the mistakes
Self sabotage by Drury. He sent that memo out to the rest of the NHL the day after the Edmonton loss, and everybody else knew about in about 24 hours. That loss against the Oilers was their first back-to-back loss of the season, and the GM was putting up a For Sale sign. Not surprised things spiraled after that.
Rangers gonna have two of the best goalies in the past 20 years, and not win a cup
That's usually Montreal's job
@@elawson1991Poor Lundqvist and Price.
2 of the best goalies of all time, not just the past 20 years
Best goalies? Yeah right
@@k38-w4x Hank is up there sure but him and Igor are not better than Roy, Brodeur, Fleury and some.
The Rangers have been playing with fire for years now. They've been a team for years now that gets out-worked and out-chanced but are bailed out by Vezina caliber goaltending
I've been saying this for years now and nobody gives it a thought.
Sounds like the Jets
I'm an extremely salty Pens fan by the way who's been on the receiving end of this playstyle for far too long
I told everyone that the playoff runs and President's Trophy were flukes but no one believed me
Sadly i will admit to being a flyers fan. We have not had a real goalie in a very long time.
The Rangers never did a true rebuild. Signing Trouba and Panarin the year after they sent out “The Letter” made sure of that. The Buchnevich trade was at the time, and still remains, a total disaster. They still haven’t replaced him all these years later. Reilly Smith? lol. This team was never properly built to win a cup. Their defense in front of Igor is atrocious. They are soft, physically and mentally, and without leadership. Blow it up Dolan, if you even care.
Not to mention they won the playoff lottery despite being a playoff team in 2020
@@TheSmegmagician They weren't a playoff team that year. Because of covid there was one more round before regular playoffs. Draft lottery decided to give 1st overall to the team that will lose this pre-playoff round. Panthers, Oilers, Wild, Predators, Penguins, Toronto and Jets had chance to win a lottery.
Exactly, and hopefully in 2 to 3 years the Rangers 😊will actually be a competent opponent for us Devils 😂
I agree this team is a dumpster fire but you’re pretty stupid if you think signing Panarin was a mistake
Another problem is they keep signing players to No or Limited contracts. Then they can’t ever be traded
Remember when they had a skid in 22-23 and Trouba was fighting every night to spark them? They have no spark anymore.
trading your captain in the middle of the season in a year when you have cup aspirations is just dumb, I get why you don't want Trouba the player, but that means you already massively fucked up paying him so much AND making him the fucking captain, winning a cup is an absolute gauntlet, how you expect to run it without a doggedly determined leader is beyond me. Every champ I can remember has THE GUY, or hell, a few of them. Rags literally have none, Panarin, Zib, Fox, these guys need to lead yet it looks like they just want to follow.
This team had Igor bail them out so much during 21-22 that they forgot they needed to play defense at all. They never played defense once under Gallant. Then this team gave Lavi 10 games at the start of last season where they played defense and then decided they were too good to play defense anymore. This is a team that just at it's core is lazy and careless and only wants to hunt for fancy cross ice passing plays while being bailed out by HOF goaltending.
Team chemistry is so important. Seattle blowing up the Rangers and Seattle getting blown up the same way by the Sharks the week before, the difference was chemistry and morale. Mind you, we didn't have a massive organizational change, just a major line shuffle and some healthy scratches, but the difference it makes is big.
Rangers looked indestructible last year, until they ran into the Panthers in the playoffs. Whatever flaws they had were easily offset by timely goals and timely saves. The fall from last year's high to where they are today is just remarkable.
If I knew how to fix this, I would probably be employed by the Rangers or Predators.
Carolina heavily outplayed them
I wonder if Laviolette has ever wondered why this keeps happening to every team he's ever coached.
LAV ain't the reason the Rangers have no cojones
Not to the canes in 06 though after that it's a whole mess
right?
I don't blame Lavs for this. He's a good coach and was in Washington. He just seems to be repeatedly brought in with a "win now" situation, where the team is already been built as a veteran top 6 team and only needs to worry about winning games and the cup. Drury hasn't done him any favors by messing with the team chemistry and leadership despite not really needing to. Even now, the Rangers are in a #8 playoff spot in the east and nobody is really threatening them - Boston, Ottawa, Buffalo, Detroit, all seem to be going nowhere. A 3-4 game win streak and everyone forgets this happened. Trying to make these changes has messed up the locker room and Lavs is not the kind of coach to be able to fix that kind of problem. He was brought in to win games and not repair team chemistry. It's probably going to be up to the players to get things together. Hopefully they can do so before they lose too many standings points.
5:37 bro I spit up my drink a bit I thought he said ‘the team in front of him has been… pretty dogshit’
This was such a deep video! (In a good way... so much behind the scenes I didn't consider) Tnx THG
This team has a habit of hiring a new coach, having success for the first season or two, and then quitting on the coach. Vignault, Gallant, and now Laviolette (not counting Quinn during the rebuild). All three of those coaches made it to the conference or SC finals, and the team quit on all 3 shortly thereafter. This current team had/has their veterans playing poorly (Trouba, Zibanejad, Kreider, Fox, Miller, Lindgren, Smith etc), while the youngsters are blossoming (Cuylle, Lafreniere, Schneider, Jones, Kakko, Chytil etc). You only win when you have both veterans and youngsters playing well at the same time. I'm sure they'll "reward" this team by firing Laviolette and giving them a new coach to quit on.
It doesn't matter who the coach is
I actually want them to hire Quenneville so they realize that it's the roster and management and ownership hating rebuilds, but then they'll make some excuse like hockey has changed since the Blackhawks dynasty or something
The coach needs to coach. If there's a player who for whatever reason doesn't like his methods, then that player should ride the bench for a period, a game, a week. Until he figures out the coach has the final say because he's got the job and you don't! Not naming names (93) because he knows he deserves a good benching
@@hogberry That's definitely something I can blame on Laviolette. He doesn't even curtail veteran's ice time, let alone bench or scratch them. Mika definitely needs to take a seat. Miller too. That said, most coaches these days are "players' coaches".
Prime example, Zibanejad is a -4 and played 20:19 TOI, plays the PP with nothing to offer, plays the empty net 6v5 and misses simple chances. Yet consistently EVERY GAME he’s rewarded by playing top line minutes while playing worse than Sam Carrick.
This effing team has fallen off a cliff so steep that even Wile E. Coyote is feeling bad for them. The lack of effort and will to compete is staggering. We are watching Space Jam in the NHL. F me this is getting to me.
Beep Beep 🐓
In that case: Why not try ACME letter course of competing? 😂
The world is healing
Why 😂
Boston next
@@QueensNewYorkguy Because the hype get's nauseating in NY when the Rangers are even adequate. It's funny how people talk so much crap about the NYY but the city has a lot of Mets fans as well and it's not as one sided as people believe. But take that NYC arrogance and funnel it into one fanbase and that's the NYR.
Isles fans are much less so. Maybe it's their Long Island origins, though I grew up in North Jersey when the Devils were the Rockies. I've always despised the entitlement of Rangers fans.
@@anticensorshipsociety1063You have never met any real Rangers fans in the case. Get off the internet lmao. Real Rangers fans are the most pessimistic fans I know. Most don’t believe they will ever win a cup due to the ownership.
@@anticensorshipsociety1063 The old joke about Ranger fans is they have Yankee arrogance with Met result. The thing about Mets vs. Yankees as opposed to Islanders vs. Rangers (or Devils) is that the Mets actually were once THE team in NY. I remember as a kid going to a Met game in Shea Stadium and they had 50+ thousand fans, then going to Yankee stadium the next week, on a Sunday, and they had 10-15,000. That lasted from around 1965-75 so I always think all Met fans are old boomers. The Islanders were never the team in NY, even when they were winning Stanley Cups. They always just had a cult following, even on Long Island.
Zibanejad's decline is the biggest reason for this stretch. His 5v5 production went first, and now his PP production has also plummeted, leaving him with little offensive upside. Under Laviolette he became more of a "shutdown" center and was fairly successful in that aspect of his game last season. Now this season even his defense is completely shot. He makes terrible turnovers he didn't make in the past, he looks slow tracking back through the neutral zone, and in general he just looks lost out there. There are obviously more problems than just ZBJ with this team but he's our 1C, he needs to play better or there is no hope for this team. And as far as moving him, he has a full NMC until 2030 so you can't even threaten to waive him like they did to Trouba. So he just needs to figure it out
Maybe they should plan some palm trees? The palms can cover the net and attract free agents
My advice for worried players would be “play well enough that your team isn’t willing to waive you if necessary”
Mika and Miller are absolute disasters. Fundamentals are lacking across the board. Not completing passes, whiffing on shots, over skating the puck, constantly missing coverage. They don’t look like NHLers.
my boy lindy ruff can fix mika, come to buffalo
Seeing a lot of people cheering on the demise of the rangers. And I just have to say...I'm right there with them lol
I'm supposed to be a Rangers fan and have been mad at them since 2021 when Dolan destroyed the rebuild in favor of wasting time in the playoffs
Every single loss, I feel more vindicated
There is no demise. They just have a bad team right now. Its not like the Rangers are about to no longer exist or move lmao
@@GregAllenF1 They've been a bad team for the past 8 years and Dolan delayed the rebuild preventing a potential dominant team for a flukey one
Exactly what i tell everyone. Davidson and gorton were on a roll then drury got in dolans ear... @kennysdead500
Management seems to be a problem. Not the players, not the coach. Make a bunch of trades, nothing changes.
Yeah sure management is the problem 🤣 haven't seen management play a minute of hockey. Players are paid to perform. The effort ain't there.
Calgary blistered them with 20 shots in the first and 49 total. A fun game to watch for a Flames fan.
Flames are my #2 teams so I was cool with it. No rivalry there and I would love Calgary to make the playoffs
Rarely in my lifetime have the Rangers sucked. I had no idea they were going to fall off this season, especially after winning the Presidents' Trophy last season! What a time.
@@InsignificantNick lol, you must be pretty young because the pre-lockout rangers were terrible. Never bad enough for the 1st overall pick, but bad enough to miss the playoffs consistently. And this was before the salary cap, when they always had the highest payroll(UFA age was 31) in the league.
@@nyyfanvkamath Consistantly trying to buy cups and falling on their faces (1994 excluded, that team was stacked)
@@nyyfanvkamath The Salary cap was the best thing that ever happened to the Rangers under Sather. Forced him to actually think and not just throw money at Free Agents.
I am a grown ass man and The Rangers have SUCKED my entire life
@@HDreamer he still had a habit of awful contracts for aging vets(Redden, Gomez, Richards, etc.) and GMs would always bail him out as a trade partner which unfortunately continues to this day because of the bargaining power the Rangers have with vets who refuse to go elsewhere. It probably still affects the rangers to this day that they went four straight years without a 1st towards at end of his tenure.
This is a prime example of why I feel your power ranking videos are unbiased and accurate... the preds video was completely accurate also!
The Rangers collapse could be the surprise of the year in the NHL ..... doesn't look like it will be a quick fix
I am still going with Nashville. Playoff team, gets free agents, and is the worst team in the league this year? Rangers were in the top 10 for sure east/west, but they can still easily finish in the playoffs. Rangers not making the playoffs, but finishing below Buffalo. Then its the biggest collapse.
@@TonySchiavone6 I think you'll be surprised that the Rangers will not make the playoffs.
One thing no one is looking at is Panarin. He’s a UFA in 2026. There’s no chance in hell of him resigning. He’s gonna leave NY, just watch.
Waiving Goodrow was a mistake. Sure he was playing poorly to his contract in the regular season, but he was giving it all in the playoffs and was clearly an important guy in the locker room.
You definitely did not watch him last year then. I watched him for 82 games, he was not only playing bad, he was a complete black hole for the 4th line and was a liability on both ends. Dude literally had a stretch of scoring 1 goal in 72 games. A few playoff goals does not cover that up.
If this core viewed him as a leader, then that speaks more about this core than the overall shitshow this season. Enough with the “good for the locker room” bs. We’ve had too many of those guys for too many years now and we have 0 Cups to show for it in the last 30 years. The Panthers lost their Hart candidate and what did they do to follow it up? A Finals and a Cup. Play better and be better
if the players cant handle the roster improving, they should find a new career
@@kaz7690what did they get for him?
is san jose really looking better than rangers? Future is teal.
Zibanejad needs to go and Miller has been absolutely awful this season. I do not understand how laviolette still continues to play Zibanejad on the 1st PP and at 6v5. Will Cuylle out Filip chytil deserve to be out there way more than Mika.
Oh we’ll take Mika off your hands 😂 Mika for Palat and a 4th baby
@QueensNewYorkguy a baby might be better than zib right now
@@noeybalbonzers9755 lol 😂 damn bro that New York humor is one of a kind! Were the most sarcastic and dramatic
Miller has been this bad every season, he just had Trouba covering for him. He decided he's not doing that any more and now with the rest of the team in the dumps too, it's just more obvious now. He's not now and never has been an NHL level defensemen. His only concern on the ice is how to not get hit, which he is very successful at. I think he's only been hit 3 times this whole year. Most NHL D get hit 3 times on a shift. So he really is amazing, just terrible at hockey.
I firmly believe Mika isn't the Rangers' biggest problem. Yes, he has had a rough start to the season, but he has had flashes of good play. Miller, on the other hand, has been dogshit all season. I've never loved him, but his play this year has been horrible. Lindgren hasn't been great either, leaving Fox, Jones, and Schneider as the only capable defensemen (Mancini can be included in this as well). Drury needs to trade one of them, preferably Miller, and acquire someone who can actually play defense. Offense is not the Rangers' issue, defense is. Shesterkin and Quick can't stop 30+ shots a night.
No wonder Larry said they are after Brady 😅
They have survived on elite goaltending and shooting percentage...regression to the mean.
Always nice to see Shannon make a video for Devils fans.
Rangers have nothing to do with the Devils unless they live rent free in Devils fans heads. lol
Devils fans are garbage as a whole because their entire existence is more about hating the Rangers than cheering for their own team.
Yea all 10 of you
@@NHLCrazy2007 entire existence being about hating the Rangers > _liking_ the Rangers
@@GregAllenF1 Rent free is good. Rent is the last thing I'd want to worry about after gifting Shesty the bag and imploding this hard.
Players are definitely noticing how their peers are being treated in NY. Wouldn't be shocked if players don't wanna go there now because of it
Despite not wanting to play for the Rangers, a lot of players will still want to live in New York
Imagine that...being held accountable. Players can avoid being "treated" that way by playing better and earning their paycheck. This group has quit on their last several coaches after having initial success. Vignault, Gallant, and now Laviolette (not counting Quinn during the rebuild). All three of those coaches made it to conference or SC finals, and the team quit on all 3 within a year or two.
@robcrilley592 players put NTC in their contracts so that they can avoid going somewhere they don't want. Drury took a cheap loophole and did it to 2 players in 6 months time. Players know that if they underperform that they can be traded, but Drury basically moved Goodrow to San Jose via waivers since they were the only ones who wanted him but he had them on his no trade list. Basically threatened Trouba with the same.
@@louisstabile1182 Yeah, and they could play for NJ or NYI and still live in Manhattan
Drury fucked up and lost the team.
I must say, as a Hurricanes fan, despite my teams struggles i am very very much enjoying this
Free KK!!! Drury is NOT a 2C!!!
They still own yall in the playoffs tho lmaooo
That's the great thing about today's NHL. Even the worst teams can win on any given night. I'm glad there's a salary cap.
@@Slick24311994 vs 2006.
you're in 3rd???? struggles my ass lol
I think your 100% correct about your last 2 min... look at Capitals. They held their heads up high and cool when the wind was blowing really hard last season.. and this year they are doing great!
Drury's GM skills may be lacking. But it could be worse, he's not Lou.
Terrible comparison. Lou has one multiple cups as a GM. Try again
@@greggg3592 over 20 years ago lol
@@greggg3592 Drury won the Little League World Series.
Great day to be a Devils fan.
+dont forget us Islander fans!!!
As well as Canes fans :)
@@gojifanpat aren't you guys still in overtime?
@@archiiebarrett💀
Until they randomly lose to NYR inexplicably, like getting shut out by pre-trade Colorado
Suprised you dont have Miller on the board who has consistently been the worst defenseman on the team all season long.
And yes, Cuylle is far and away our best player this season with an honorable mention to Chytil.
Kakko has been playing pretty well to be fair.
As far as goaltending goes, they can only do so much when the opponents have free access to the slot all game long as much as they want. Even defending the rush, they still manage to make it harder for the goaltender by not taking away the pass or the shot, just something in between, confusing the netminder.
I will agree with the team is not built to win, it was built not to lose. And now they can't even manage that.
The most scary thing is that they have had an incredibly soft schedule so far.. so, by this pace they'll go from 2 wins away from the SCF to a bottom 5 team in the league in 1 year. That in itself is sort of impressive.
Thanks for the video! Blackhawks caught a break playing them at their low ebb. I had thought the Shesterkin signing would turn things around for them right away.
As a Devils fan, can't say I'm too upset about this. As a hockey fan, I think that some of these more "ruthless" decisions started with Vegas and the moves its made jettisoning players for nothing since their inception. At first, didn't catch on and then they won a cup, so some other teams likely took notice. Tampa played hardball with Stamkos, and that appears to have worked for them, then Drury with Goodrow in the Summer as mentioned in the video followed by Trouba as well. It's interesting to watch and I'm curious if this shift away from that mindset of having "loyalty" to the players vs loyalty to the team's long-term success will continue and other teams will follow suit. That being said, making all of these public statements and announcements doesn't really serve a practical purpose. It's obviously not helping the players/team focus on the game and if you're looking for a move, other teams know that and can try to leverage it as well. I don't think the Rangers roster is that poorly constructed and I do think this 10 game sample is an overexaggeration and will likely lead to overcorrection. I don't think that this will have as much of an impact on signing FA's though (even though I hope it does). It's still an original six team in the biggest metropolitan area in the country.
You trade Mika zabenajiad, then fire your GM and coach. New coach, new GM and use the cap space from truba to pick up. Two-way, defenseman and two-way forwards
I wish Dolan would stop caring about hockey
It's thanks to him they abandoned the rebuild in 2021 to go on fluke playoff runs instead of trying to grow the team and acquiring more players like Michkov and Bedard
lol good luck with that
@@kennysdead500 my biggest fear since Dolan took over MSG was that he would start to pay attention to the Rangers. Since 2000 when he took over, Knicks had worst record in NBA overall and his hands were in everything.
@@kam8205 It sucks
Hopefully the Knicks being decent (which I don't think they are, I miss the 2012-13 team and the old NBA lol) keeps him at bay, but it's going to be hard to get a new GM that's willing to rebuild and defend it
There also needs to be better development coaches and scouts
Hartford is terrible and the Rangers seem to only do any good with NHL ready NCAA and KHL players (preferably, I want KHL players only, but that's besides the point lol)
Zibanajed and Miller for Compher, Veleno and Chiarot 👍
K'Andre Miller had an absolute disaster-class of a sequence on the Hawks second goal last night. Except for his D-partner who engaged "oh shit" mode, every other Ranger was just blankly staring - as if the broadcast camera had already panned to the other side of the ice.
It's been painful. They havent played with fire for years and any flame they had has been extinguished. The only thing I can smile about is our future core of Igor Laf and Perrault
If Dolan didn't ruin the rebuild, we might have Michkov and Bedard, but nooooooo we had to have fluke playoff runs when dynasty Tampa and Florida exist and the stupid President's Trophy (maybe the trophy's curse is what they need to return to a proper rebuild)
The biggest issue with the Rangers is they don't play Detroit for the rest of the year
@@RipleyAtHome As a Wing’s fan you are unfortunately correct but hey, we did beat Buffalo yesterday so there’s that.
I love all your commentary, especially since it comes from a street hockey player like me.
You love to see it #ALLCAPS
My Rangers are in freefall at this rate they not gonna make the playoffs 🙄
You are spot on with everything you said. 🤟🏼
Waiting for the management to send out another letter. Also, I'm so happy as a fan of another Metro team.
Really well done video. Spoke to exactly where this team went wrong and started spiraling.
Drury is losing my confidence quickly. Goodrow and Trouba's contracts were bad, but it would be hard to script a worse handling of trying to get away from those bad contracts in terms of team cohesion and chemistry. Now he's got cap space from dealing Trouba, and what's he going to do with it? Besides enrage the Sens I guess? He needs to do something with this cap space or it's all for nothing. And the random guys he keeps bringing in shows me again and again that he has no idea what the team needs or who will fit.
And then the Igor deal...yeah, goaltending is absolutely not the problem right now, or really ever. And yeah, someone was going to give Igor that contract. But 20 years into the Rangers being a club with elite goaltending and then a pocket full of hope that all the other shortcomings of the team will just go away, everyone that doesn't have a Penn Plaza office has figured out that goaltending can stop you from losing but it can't make you win. So for me, banking that hard on Igor underscores how far the Rangers are from being a consistently good team rather than a team that goes on hot streaks and then falls off a cliff for weeks at a time. Great, we've locked down an A+ goalie for 8 years with a huge cap hit, signaling a lack of seriousness from Drury about improving the team overall. I would have at least entertained the thought of downgrading from Igor if it meant finally getting serious about building consistency.
About time. They’ve been surviving solely on a great power play and goaltending for years
Yes, evidence last yrs playoffs. They lost the dressing room after Trouba. You know it's bad when milk toast cbc panel roasts you.
Like that sweater. I think Winnipeg liked it too
Lundqvist can relate to igor and quick in being the only reason they are competitive in games
So Vegas being ruthless and winning a cup just gets ignored?
Imagine if the Sabres knew they didn't have to buy out Skinner a few years ago and could just pull a Drury
Waive/trade Kreider, Sit Zibanejad indefinitely
If you wanna change the NTC rule change the cap rule for the playoffs. Or at least make it so you have to play IE 50 games MINIMUM in the regular season to be eligible for playoffs.
The "Regular Season Champions" hangover is real, y'all 😅
Remember last season everyone thought Matt Rempe was gonna be the Rangers' secret weapon, and now he can't even crack the roster on this bad team lol.
No. No one associated with NY said that. Other people said that and ran with it. It was always dumb
The last 10 games of the Rangers are exactly what is being said here, no heart, playing virtually no defense, and Laviolette needs to (but isn't) breaking the Rangers down to the basics - players will respond when ice time is the reward - your lesser players get more ice time for effort and hustling - the star players will soon pay attention to being "bench butts" and not on the ice. Just my opinion but it always seems to work that way for the other teams.
They should take a write off on this season, and retool (NOT rebuild), with an emphasis on depth on the wings and on D.
Great Video, as usual, Shannon
NYR made a lot of vibe buster moves
Laviolette gets fired next if there's no turnaround. After that, I think they go through with the retool. Trades for Kreider and Zibanejad, if that doesn't work, then it's gotta be a rebuild.
can't rebuild with those ticket prices
@lesliechow6866 it's New York they can charge whatever they want with no problem.
WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! sending love from Philly!
Im a Rangers fan since they won it all on my 10th birthday in 1994. Since then, this is just kinda how we do.. well, whatever, LGR!!
love your videos. The loss to Seattle was brutal. If they hold on to Seattle, they beat Chicago.
I know this is Rangers talk, but I just got to say thanks again to the Oiler's management for letting both Broberg and Holloway go. Initially Broberg was amazing and now Holloway has become one of our best players. Thanks Edmonton!
Some words for the rangers fans out there, when Coach Lavi was with us, Caps finished tied for first in his first season, WC2 in his second because of a strong start, and fell completely apart in his third. Not saying he's a bad coach, but there seems to be a trend going on.
As it's the same issues as under the previous coaches, it's hardly due to him. It's just what this core is.
Surely someone playoff bound could use Quick’s services.
I don't think NYR should panic. This team played really well last year and they can turn it around. Panic in late January if it hasn't and then maybe think about trading Mika, etc.
YOU DO A AWESOME SERVICE YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ALL TEAMS YOUR HOCKEY I.Q IS OFF THE MAP ...I AM A LIFELONG RANGER FAN AND YOU ARE SPOT ON WITTH THE RANGERS
I'm not sure that publicly threatening to trade players and punting your captain is the hearts and minds strategy that Rangers management think it is. This is a "the beatings will continue until morale improves" situation in New York and short of firing Drury it's not going to get better. At a certain point you have other players start to spend more time wondering when they're getting traded than focusing on their game. But at least Shesterkin got paid though.
Rangers have always depended on the PP WAY too much, Mika is God awful unless he is on the PP and Panarin is the only one I find with REAL talent on the squad besides Shesterkin
Very good analysis of Rangers situation. What Drury is doing reflects on the team.
Rag fans keep whining and lamenting about Zibanejad and Miller. I get it, they've been bad. But Panarin is the guy who's let you down in the playoffs. Unlike Kreider, who seems to be the next guy everyone wants to trade. Laf has been awful since signing his deal. It all feels pretty arse-backwards.
I'd trade Panarin. You can get a return for him. Maybe this team forgot the idea isn't to win the LolRegularSeasonChampionship banner.
Or don't. The drama is pretty entertaining.
My eyeballs hurt watching this team. Silver lining, cannot disappoint in the playoffs if you don’t make it.
Speaking as a Caps fan, I think all fans of Metro teams can all come together and laugh at the Rangers
This is my favorite recreational drug. More videos like this one please
Drury is trying to do something you typically see in the summer. They’ve been needing to make some tweaks to the roster for awhile, and now he’s trying to do something that’s interrupting the locker room. We all knew Lindgren was going to breakdown and LHD needed to be upgraded. We all knew they play too much on the perimeter and don’t go hard to the net.
Laviolette has a 2-3 year shelf life
This is why as Rangers fans we warship Messier. He came in and changed the entire mentality of that team.
They should start playing instagram hockey 🤣
I sincerely hope they do not fix this
THE DEVILS!!!
Yeah baby
Insert david pudi gif here
As a Canes fan, this is nice to see, but a lot being said is also jamming us up on our recent struggles.
Complete Defensive liability and giving up multiple breakaway chances do not make for W’s.
As a Rangers fan I am happy we are going through this. Last season did not have enough adversity to build these guys. Go through hell boys!!
As my team is mediocre again this year...this Isles fan approves this video. This might be the best part of our season this year - watching the Rags fall flat on their face again.
Love it, want more of it
Tampa Bay did this to McDonagh. Let's not blame the Rangers for this mess.
The rangers just felt bad for the penguins sucking and decided to give them some company
Hey man i need to know, what is your favorite team that you root for? You are a godsend to the hockey community.. Thank you for all that you do. I watch your videos and im up to date with what's going on.
@@DonPeppinoo , Shannon's rooting for the Bruins. Only fault I could ever find in him :)
rangers have disappeared into the black hole ,drury couldn't manage a pee wee team ,we're playing like el stinko ,dealt the captain & giving shitzerkin $90 million $$ was bad idea , we gave up 7 goals to kracken and then lost to chicago , we have no grit, no one gives a rat's ass on defense to help goalie's out. all the trade talk took our heart out , shannon says we don't have a real hard schedule , hell , we just lost to the blackhawks FFS ..we're toast
Hey hockey guy I saw your video. A lot of stuff makes sense but you mentioned trading advantage unfortunately he can’t be traded. He has a full 100% non-movement clause so he cannot be traded as much as I wish we could at least entertain the possibility he ain’t going nowhere unless he waves is no trade and from what I read, there’s no shot he’s gonna do thatbut thanks for the thought anyway
Hey hockey guy I saw your video. A lot of stuff makes sense but you mentioned trading Mika Zibanejad unfortunately he can’t be traded. He has a full 100% non-movement clause so he cannot be traded as much as I wish we could at least entertain the possibility he ain’t going nowhere unless he waves is no trade and from what I read, there’s no shot he’s gonna do thatbut thanks for the thought anyway
Seeing Washington thrive with the young players that Laviolette wouldn't play, is the sweetest victory. Watching the Rangers fail is just the cherry on top. 😎
Maybe New York and Nashville could work something out trade wise? Both were highly praised in the offseason, yet have completely imploded.
Shannon, itt's not so much the defense as much as it is TEAM defense. They have forwards who refuse to play a 200 foot game and can't check their hats. It leaves the defensemen and goalies exposed. I have been a Rangers fan my whole life (I am 79) and they are nothing but paper tigers, that gets exposed in the playoffs, because they aren't built to win in the playoffs. There are only a few physical players on the team, now with Trouba gone, it's even worse.
Since Zib signed his big extension, his play has really tailed off. Too many fat cats on the team?
I was high on the rangers this year. I still think they are a talented team. I'm still surprised about what's happening.
Shannon you nailed it, I think Drury should get the boot.
Also, another point on Trouba, he refused a trade to his hometown during the offseason. Detroit wasn’t on his 15 no trade anyways. He caused the entire situation himself.