When creating 3D-printed components for audiophile-grade equipment, it's essential to carefully consider the material used. Audiophiles, with their highly discerning ears, can even detect subtle differences, such as whether a cable is silver-coated, and how these qualities evolve over time. For example, if the parts are printed using PLA (polylactic acid), it's important to note that PLA is hygroscopic, meaning it absorbs moisture over time. This can potentially impact the acoustic properties of the equipment, altering the desired sound quality. Therefore, choosing the right material is crucial to maintaining the integrity of the audio experience.
Thank you for setting up the correct expectations and conditions. That yes there is a difference between cables and it is audible. But only in systems that are already achieve a well above average level of reproduction. And not just hardware, but operating environment as well.
With all due respect Glen, I once heard a big undeniable improvement with a pair of Purist Audio interconnects, connected to a cheap 1970s 8 track receiver, and those are very low quality. But the cable made it sound very listenable. I was playing a cd player through it. Probably, better equipment would have revealed even more improvement with the interconnect.
Danny, have I ever told you, your Kung-fu is strong. Comments prove that. Its been over three years since I bought those Pedest'ale Tower speakers from you. Your No-rez and Sonicaps turned them into heirloom pieces. Cool runnings.
Danny, I love what you do. I own NX-Tremes and love them. I built your speaker cables and like them, too. Some say you "just a salesman." These recommendation videos illustrate otherwise. Keep up the great work!
I have a budget nad integrated Amp and I don't know how people Not noticing the difference from trying different cables.. It's not subtle even on very cheap cables.
Well done, Danny. I've been in this hobby 40 years, and quality cables absolutely make a difference in a carefully assembled and situated system. Those who are closed-minded are only cheating themselves.
So why has there never been a proper double blind test done between good and esoteric cables? Prove us wrong. If the effect is real, it will show up in the double blind test and you can prove all us nay sayers wrong. Just once, I want to see it. Are you rational? Afraid? Don't think it's necessary? Rather believe what you believe without proof? I don't have resources but if I was subsidized I would be willing to fly to GR in Texas and perform such an experiment with Danny. 1) It wouldn't be that hard to do. 2) Danny is probably the most likely to actually hear it. 3) It would be the greatest audio experiment of this century! 4) It would advance the audio sciences 5) If you are right you can let the world know. I recommend inviting Amir to attend too. Amir has the proper training for this type of experiment. Maybe I'll make this offer directly to Amir if others seem to afraid to run this experiment. I mean wouldn't you all like to once and for all shut us up on this topic?
Biggest difference I’ve heard is when twisted-pair microphone interconnect cables are constructed with a floating shield vs. when the shield is connected at both ends. Cables with a floating shield sound more open and transparent. In my system, I have a more difficult time hearing differences between various speaker cables.
What I do know is that silver does not sound as warm and detailed as copper...its just detailed,to the point of sibilance.Mixing those would create issues because of conductivity differences as far as the acoustic differences are concerned,not the speed at which the sound is traveling through the cable.Danny was hearing over bearing treble which would make these frequencies sound like they are upfront because its how we perceive this.Metallurgical differences create phase shifts which are audible...fact.
Am i understanding this correctly...are you saying you can hear the phase shift.... due to the differences in speed of the higher frequencies (traveling through the silver plating) vs the lower frequencies (traveling via the copper core) ....due to the conductivity differences between copper and silver....signals travelling at speeds approaching the speed of light.....over a 2-3m long cable?
I love music and hi fidelity, but luckily my hearing is not so precise that I require this level of equipment. When most normal people list to my equipment they are amazed at the sound. My whole system is under 10K. And Life is good:)
Yup. I have a set of open baffle speakers I designed and made and I have 2 wiring looms from the crossover to the drivers, one made from silver coated copper and one from just copper, 3' in length, the difference in sound between the 2 different looms is -very- obvious and absolutely hearable.
If you have a good ear you can also tell the difference between pure copper and silver coated...try it for yourself and cut the crap of these comments to a serious professional that just wants to help out.
Can you tell if you are right in between of your speakers or just a little to the left or the right? How much time difference is there with a few cm or inches of shift?
I can also clearly hear the difference between silver coated and pure copper. I describe the sound as being more "forward," and a tad "harsh or bright." To be clear though, I am not claiming it is due to phase shift. Dunno what causes it, but I prefer pure copper in my system, which is already a tad forward.
One comment Danny made sounded like he thought his speaker cables might be a little better. Perhaps these aireference cables have similar performance but are for those not wanting to DIY? They cables look great.
good review. took a look at their website. Looks like banana plugs only. Some spades would be nice. Once a person hears what really nice cables do, its super tough to listen without them.
Another great product review. Just wish Danny could compare these Croatian cables to Danny's own, because many of us have Danny's cables, a comparison would give us further reference to the performance of these cables. What would we hear if we use replace Danny's cables with these cables?
I thought speaker cables were snake oil until recently when I started looking at more than just resistance. I just purchased a set of World's Best Cables, the cheapest option, and I can not believe how much of a difference it made. They are shielded coaxial cables made by Mogami. Not only did the bass increase significantly, but the tonality of the speakers changed. People's voices when talking are now more profound and full, to the point that I can hear the speaker boxes resonating. It was so apparent that I ordered sound-deadening material to apply to the inside of the boxes. If you are only running copper speaker wire, you are missing out and may not realize it. If you want a cheaper option than Danny suggests, World's Best Cables on Amazon is what you want.
It is EXTREMELY obvious to me that different cables can affect the sound quality of speaker/headphone/earphone systems, because if one looks at the two extremes (a thin wire versus a thick, OFC cable) it is simple physics that the OFC will handle the electrical signal far more competently than the thin, cheap and nasty wire.
Use Shindo silver cables since 1993 I think. Expensive in that time but still very good competion to best on market today. Perfect symbios with tube gear.
Appreciate you doing these reviews and very helpful for those of us who follow your channel. As I am considering speaker cables soon, I may give these...the solid copper version.... a try.
Different cables do sound different imo, silver cables give you a different sound than copper ones, not necessarily better. I would probably never pay more than $150 for a speaker cable
Actually the opposite is often true. The thinner dielectric material the better. Many cables, like these, have a very thin jacket on them. They only look big because of the geometry of the braid.
@@dannyrichie9743 So Danny, what’s your opinion on Nordost cables? Many I have seen are unshielded and EXTREMELY expensive.. If your not paying for good shielding, connectors and looks.. What are you paying for? I have borrowed some expensive cables home to compare with my own (about $150-200). They where about $600-700 but not anywhere near the $1000 price. My first impression was wow, they sounded a lot better. Firmer bass and a lot clearer midrange. I thought it must be the better connectors as my own had very good shielding but not as nice looking connectors. Tested them for a while and after a few days I thought they sounded the same as my original. Then called a friend over and he helped me do a blind test. I know it wasn’t a perfect test because it took a about 15 seconds between each change (and no change).. But I couldn’t notice any difference when I didn’t know which cable was used. This with a system, speakers and room I’m familiar with. That you can sense silver coating on a cable is amazing really!
As an electrician, we learned in school about the "skin effect". Electricity tends to travel/transfer along the exterior of a cable/conductor. The higher the frequency or voltage, the more skin effect there will be. Therefore, if you coat a wire w a different conductive material,.. the material on the exterior will be transfering more of the high frequencies than the interior core. An interesting use of skin effect in a real world application.
I'm an electrician, and I can hear it as well. I used to use silver coated copper for chassis wiring. I've switched to Teflon coated pure copper. Much smoother sounds that losses the"edge" of the silver/ copper hybrid wire.
@listeningto8371 It is apparent even at 60hz and goes up as frequency increases. In the field, we used to have problems when a data cable was laying across a fluorescent light, due to the high frequencies created by the ballast.
A Scandanavian company called Supra, in order to decrease the electromagnetic interaction between the strands of their cables cableswhich cause degradation, coats the outside of the their strands with a material that is an inefficient bad conductor of electricity. The theoretical ideal would be to get the signal to only travel through the inner core of the cable. Supra Sword cable is an astonishingly transparent cable with incredibly extended and detailed highs, that make other even good cables sound closed in; in the high frequencies. Very open highs.
@@bayard1332 if you can measure it its quantifiable and beyond dispute as its a fact and not an opinion , and we all know whats said about opinions ,,,, nuff said.
@@flashhog01 ever tried six mil cooker cable ?? twin and earth ,,, prob not , best you go give it a go as a start point .... or draw arrows on the cables so the current knows which way to go , and the audio pixies dont get lost ,, all I asked was if you could measure it , just re read the posts again instead of jumping in with both flat feet.
With that said.. A beautiful cable can be like nice furniture, painting, speakers or whatever.. To a certain point you could pay for the craftmanship. If I had a real hifi room with really nice looking preamp, amp and speakers I would very much like to complement these with nice looking cables. Not for sound quality but for looks. But those cables in the $2000-3000 and up are just snakeoil. This one for about $1000 is up there on the VERY high end of the ”worth it” price scale. There are cheaper highend looking type of cables. But the quality of the build is hard to assess over the internet. So these are a little of chance to buy.
@@bayard1332 Yes. They do sound different. I have both puee copper, silver coated copper and pure silver interconnects. From what Danny mentioned, I am now wondering if all silver conductor affects bass. My speaker wires are all copper.
I’ve constructed multiple interconnects, a few of which were made with silver-plated, oxygen-free copper, and a few with solid silver interconnects. Never liked any of them in my system, due to their tendency towards sounding clinical and forward in the upper mids and treble.
Double blind test without saying prices with your own ears and your own kit is the ONLY way. No bull, no recommendations and nothing else. Pure snake oil for people with excessive amounts of money to waste. As so nicely put right at the start but I'll state that bit in layman's terms.
most people using equipment where their audio signal is on some cheap PCB board traces but then want to put it on 1,000 cables down the pipeline as if it will make a difference. what idiots
They have done double blind tests with wiring from a LAMP put up against the fanciest cables out their. No one could tell the difference. Respectfully I think Ill pass.
@@dannyrichie9743 Respectfully have an independent entity set up the double blind where you and other parties are satisfied with the conditions. Everyone sit down and try to pick up which is which. And I'd put a serious amount of money up that you or anyone else would NEVER be able to tell the difference.
@@dannyrichie9743 their are famous studios and engineers that have very high end studios and systems and it's telling that they do not use exotic cables at all in those systems.
As a former salesman of audio gear, I know my ears aren't particularly good or bad. I believe you buy value and figure out your budgets on that level for the remaining accouterments. Some folks build listening rooms and start with nothing but clever, normally expensive, equipment. They are often distracted by price and the need to assuage their egos despite having my ears.They waste resources because the waste is of little/no consequence. They are the folks who extoll Porsches and demean Corvettes. 'Value' has no value..
easy way to solve if speaker cables make a difference. 2 speakers and a different speaker cable for each speaker, if theres a difference it should stand out a mile.
The subtle differences in anything audiophile needs an acclimation period. We are creatures of habit. That period can be weeks to months. I do not need an "immediate" improvement. With better wire, I want LESS things to distract me over time. Now, to be honest, I have not yet EVER had a deficiency in my playback that could be attributed to the speaker interconnect. That could be because I am already using very good cable. Croatia is a place that I go to for vacation sometimes. Now I have a reason to make a new friend. Thank you Danny!
Now that's a sexy coat hanger! Haha All love Danny. For the initiated out there- are you guys claiming it's not a measurable performance improvement, but rather it IS a subjective audible improvement to your ears- be it soundstage, imaging etc? Bc I can concede to that in my neophite ignorance
Drug addicts have this same problem where they're chasing a destination they wont find, and they fiend for any incremental improvement in result. Regardless of whether the improvement is perceived or real, the psychological effect that it has is damaging beyond the audiophile hobby. Healthy indulgences toe the line of unhealthy addiction, or thered be no substance to the indulgence
@@sloboat55 yes, particularly if the cognitive cues present themselves. There is nothing wrong with the desire to achieve the best audio possible. When people do insane things for trivial improvement, isolate from familial relationships, etc., that is when us professionals are called in to salvage a situation. Thus, if it helps even one person, the conversation is worth having and the awareness is worth recognizing.
@@dannyrichie9743 maybe $30 packaging, $120 material, $200 work and then $650 profit and tax? 65% may sound much but for low volume expensive stuff that’s not that much overhead. The thing is, if mass produced this could cost less than $400 probably. With a good profit.
I wish high end active speakers (with streaming and low lag wireless connectivity) became the norm so we no longer need to think about crap such as thousands of dollars for a cable or a network switch.
This is not the place for that debate, but have you ever seen a shadow? It is directly related to the shape of what makes it. I can see the shadow of the earth on the moon. :-) Every other planet and moon in our solar system is round, but the earth is flat? I don't think so.
@@user540000 In case you didn't catch it. I actually just made a recommendation to a company that produces a product that directly competes with cables that we sell. So I am not really helping myself at all with this one. I am only helping our customers.
You sir are a real gentleman. Credence to you for being so honest. 👏👏👏👏
Tongue in cheek, right?
Bot?
He's being far from honest.
Congrats on your competition! Winning and staying healthy is a great combination. You're also pretty good at this audio thing 👍
Thank you.
When creating 3D-printed components for audiophile-grade equipment, it's essential to carefully consider the material used. Audiophiles, with their highly discerning ears, can even detect subtle differences, such as whether a cable is silver-coated, and how these qualities evolve over time. For example, if the parts are printed using PLA (polylactic acid), it's important to note that PLA is hygroscopic, meaning it absorbs moisture over time. This can potentially impact the acoustic properties of the equipment, altering the desired sound quality. Therefore, choosing the right material is crucial to maintaining the integrity of the audio experience.
Excellent comment, cool runnings.
Thank you for setting up the correct expectations and conditions. That yes there is a difference between cables and it is audible. But only in systems that are already achieve a well above average level of reproduction. And not just hardware, but operating environment as well.
With all due respect Glen, I once heard a big undeniable improvement with a pair of Purist Audio interconnects, connected to a cheap 1970s 8 track receiver, and those are very low quality. But the cable made it sound very listenable. I was playing a cd player through it. Probably, better equipment would have revealed even more improvement with the interconnect.
@@sidesup8286 It's in your mind. I used to think the same. I learned confirmation bias and placebo are strong.
Danny, have I ever told you, your Kung-fu is strong. Comments prove that. Its been over three years since I bought those Pedest'ale Tower speakers from you. Your No-rez and Sonicaps turned them into heirloom pieces. Cool runnings.
You have integrity Danny thumps up
Danny, I love what you do. I own NX-Tremes and love them. I built your speaker cables and like them, too.
Some say you "just a salesman." These recommendation videos illustrate otherwise. Keep up the great work!
Thank you. I think few realized that I just recommended a competitor.
I have a budget nad integrated Amp and I don't know how people Not noticing the difference from trying different cables.. It's not subtle even on very cheap cables.
Thank you Danny, you are a good man
Well done, Danny. I've been in this hobby 40 years, and quality cables absolutely make a difference in a carefully assembled and situated system. Those who are closed-minded are only cheating themselves.
So why has there never been a proper double blind test done between good and esoteric cables? Prove us wrong. If the effect is real, it will show up in the double blind test and you can prove all us nay sayers wrong. Just once, I want to see it. Are you rational? Afraid? Don't think it's necessary? Rather believe what you believe without proof?
I don't have resources but if I was subsidized I would be willing to fly to GR in Texas and perform such an experiment with Danny.
1) It wouldn't be that hard to do.
2) Danny is probably the most likely to actually hear it.
3) It would be the greatest audio experiment of this century!
4) It would advance the audio sciences
5) If you are right you can let the world know.
I recommend inviting Amir to attend too. Amir has the proper training for this type of experiment. Maybe I'll make this offer directly to Amir if others seem to afraid to run this experiment. I mean wouldn't you all like to once and for all shut us up on this topic?
Biggest difference I’ve heard is when twisted-pair microphone interconnect cables are constructed with a floating shield vs. when the shield is connected at both ends. Cables with a floating shield sound more open and transparent. In my system, I have a more difficult time hearing differences between various speaker cables.
Sometimes it gets even better if you completely remove the shield.
What I do know is that silver does not sound as warm and detailed as copper...its just detailed,to the point of sibilance.Mixing those would create issues because of conductivity differences as far as the acoustic differences are concerned,not the speed at which the sound is traveling through the cable.Danny was hearing over bearing treble which would make these frequencies sound like they are upfront because its how we perceive this.Metallurgical differences create phase shifts which are audible...fact.
If he insists you keep them, do a give away on the channel!
I’m not a huge cable guy, but for the amount of work involved to make those you would think they would be way more money.
Well cant be as much work than you think, then.
Am i understanding this correctly...are you saying you can hear the phase shift.... due to the differences in speed of the higher frequencies (traveling through the silver plating) vs the lower frequencies (traveling via the copper core) ....due to the conductivity differences between copper and silver....signals travelling at speeds approaching the speed of light.....over a 2-3m long cable?
I love music and hi fidelity, but luckily my hearing is not so precise that I require this level of equipment. When most normal people list to my equipment they are amazed at the sound. My whole system is under 10K. And Life is good:)
Yup. I have a set of open baffle speakers I designed and made and I have 2 wiring looms from the crossover to the drivers, one made from silver coated copper and one from just copper, 3' in length, the difference in sound between the 2 different looms is -very- obvious and absolutely hearable.
If you have a good ear you can also tell the difference between pure copper and silver coated...try it for yourself and cut the crap of these comments to a serious professional that just wants to help out.
Can you tell if you are right in between of your speakers or just a little to the left or the right?
How much time difference is there with a few cm or inches of shift?
I can also clearly hear the difference between silver coated and pure copper.
I describe the sound as being more "forward," and a tad "harsh or bright."
To be clear though, I am not claiming it is due to phase shift. Dunno what causes it, but I prefer pure copper in my system, which is already a tad forward.
Congratulations on bringing home the golds again! That is definitely not easy at that level! A huge achievement!
Thank you.
I think your cable that used the rope to separate the conductors is similar by design.
Yes it is.
if you ask those who own a system made with more half a million $s , 1k is nothing for an audiophile!
Thanks for letting us to know this company
It's still throwing 1k away.
One comment Danny made sounded like he thought his speaker cables might be a little better. Perhaps these aireference cables have similar performance but are for those not wanting to DIY? They cables look great.
The thing is, the cable inside the amplifier and speakers are small copper cables so how will this translate to better output/music?
good review. took a look at their website. Looks like banana plugs only. Some spades would be nice. Once a person hears what really nice cables do, its super tough to listen without them.
Once you realise cables make no difference and it's in your head it saves a lot of money. Also bananas make more secure connections.
Another great product review. Just wish Danny could compare these Croatian cables to Danny's own, because many of us have Danny's cables, a comparison would give us further reference to the performance of these cables. What would we hear if we use replace Danny's cables with these cables?
Fairly close.
How is it a great product review?
I thought speaker cables were snake oil until recently when I started looking at more than just resistance.
I just purchased a set of World's Best Cables, the cheapest option, and I can not believe how much of a difference it made. They are shielded coaxial cables made by Mogami.
Not only did the bass increase significantly, but the tonality of the speakers changed. People's voices when talking are now more profound and full, to the point that I can hear the speaker boxes resonating. It was so apparent that I ordered sound-deadening material to apply to the inside of the boxes.
If you are only running copper speaker wire, you are missing out and may not realize it. If you want a cheaper option than Danny suggests, World's Best Cables on Amazon is what you want.
It is EXTREMELY obvious to me that different cables can affect the sound quality of speaker/headphone/earphone systems, because if one looks at the two extremes (a thin wire versus a thick, OFC cable) it is simple physics that the OFC will handle the electrical signal far more competently than the thin, cheap and nasty wire.
Please stop talking nonsense.
@@mccririck01, you mean, you know what the original poster heard in his own audio system? Are you best friends, or something?
@@TheVeganVicar I know how strong confirmation bias and placebo effect are, sadly. I also know how cables measure.
Danny, no such website for Yellow is found.
Do you have another way to communicate with the yellow air reference cables??
Cannot be found
There is a link right below the video.
@@dannyrichie9743 got it!
Thank you!
Use Shindo silver cables since 1993 I think. Expensive in that time but still very good competion to best on market today. Perfect symbios with tube gear.
Appreciate you doing these reviews and very helpful for those of us who follow your channel. As I am considering speaker cables soon, I may give these...the solid copper version.... a try.
I was just in Croatia. I should have checked him out.
Can we conclude to avoid silver or silver plated cables and stick with pure copper or is this to simple? 😊
Well copper is cheaper so why use silver?
So, basically a customer with lots of disposable income…..
More cents than sense
The world ain’t fair? Marry rich or just work for it?
@@rikardekvall3433 or just start selling audio nonsense
Some people of more moderate means prioritize what they want. This can work for them as well.
@@rikardekvall3433these days marrying rich is highly recommended 😂
Can you pass them to Ron for another review?
😂
I can.
Different cables do sound different imo, silver cables give you a different sound than copper ones, not necessarily better. I would probably never pay more than $150 for a speaker cable
I guess you are not a Nordost owner then? 😁
My thing about cables is wondering why you don't see all this insulation and thickness inside the Amp or receiver. Why only after the outputs?
Actually the opposite is often true. The thinner dielectric material the better. Many cables, like these, have a very thin jacket on them. They only look big because of the geometry of the braid.
Because of the radio frequencies and other types of radiation that alters the sound if not shielded properly. It acts as an antenna.
@@ilaion11...As an antenna when terminated into a fraction of an ohm at amp's output? Which engineering course did you take? 😂
@@dannyrichie9743 So Danny, what’s your opinion on Nordost cables? Many I have seen are unshielded and EXTREMELY expensive.. If your not paying for good shielding, connectors and looks.. What are you paying for? I have borrowed some expensive cables home to compare with my own (about $150-200). They where about $600-700 but not anywhere near the $1000 price. My first impression was wow, they sounded a lot better. Firmer bass and a lot clearer midrange. I thought it must be the better connectors as my own had very good shielding but not as nice looking connectors. Tested them for a while and after a few days I thought they sounded the same as my original. Then called a friend over and he helped me do a blind test. I know it wasn’t a perfect test because it took a about 15 seconds between each change (and no change).. But I couldn’t notice any difference when I didn’t know which cable was used. This with a system, speakers and room I’m familiar with. That you can sense silver coating on a cable is amazing really!
Speaking about sound stage , I have the same ringer, and I thought my house phone was ringing in the other room 😆
As an electrician, we learned in school about the "skin effect". Electricity tends to travel/transfer along the exterior of a cable/conductor. The higher the frequency or voltage, the more skin effect there will be. Therefore, if you coat a wire w a different conductive material,.. the material on the exterior will be transfering more of the high frequencies than the interior core. An interesting use of skin effect in a real world application.
As a fellow electrician, I've got to ask, at what frequencies?
I'm an electrician, and I can hear it as well. I used to use silver coated copper for chassis wiring. I've switched to Teflon coated pure copper. Much smoother sounds that losses the"edge" of the silver/ copper hybrid wire.
@listeningto8371 It is apparent even at 60hz and goes up as frequency increases. In the field, we used to have problems when a data cable was laying across a fluorescent light, due to the high frequencies created by the ballast.
A Scandanavian company called Supra, in order to decrease the electromagnetic interaction between the strands of their cables cableswhich cause degradation, coats the outside of the their strands with a material that is an inefficient bad conductor of electricity. The theoretical ideal would be to get the signal to only travel through the inner core of the cable. Supra Sword cable is an astonishingly transparent cable with incredibly extended and detailed highs, that make other even good cables sound closed in; in the high frequencies. Very open highs.
@sidesup8286 excellent comment, I've heard of Supra. I run Mogami speaker wire, ten ft, but I have Synergy w/my separates, my Tradutto is on fire.
can you measure the difference ,, if so theres no debate .
There is much more to the world of physics than the relatively crude audio measurements we have at out disposal.
@@bayard1332 if you can measure it its quantifiable and beyond dispute as its a fact and not an opinion , and we all know whats said about opinions ,,,, nuff said.
These types of comments always crack me up as if everything we perceive can be measured. Know-nothings hide behind such unthinking reactions.
@@flashhog01 ever tried six mil cooker cable ?? twin and earth ,,, prob not , best you go give it a go as a start point .... or draw arrows on the cables so the current knows which way to go , and the audio pixies dont get lost ,, all I asked was if you could measure it , just re read the posts again instead of jumping in with both flat feet.
@@flashhog01 and relax ,,, I asked a question , I didnt express a view , back under your bridge , your dismissed.
$1,000 / pair and what's the length? I'll check the link to their site.
All wires are not equal
Some are longer, some are thicker. Some audiophiles are more gullible.
My man said "if you wanna argue if the earth is flat go somewhere else" 😂😂😂😂👊🏽💯💥 😂😂😂😇😇😇😇
Right! This is the place for the people who believe that electric current goes faster through silver.
@@IliyaOsnovikov it doesn’t? 😁
Yeah he really is a numbnut
Wow, cables really bring out the dinosaur commenters.....
The dinosaur youtube videos you mean
Their thinking is certainly extinct. I pity them. Danny's Kung-fu has foot swept their brains, leaving them a babbling heap of primordial sludge.
@@sloboat55 Kung Fu? Praising oversized cables?
I already have several sets of speaker cables, so I’m wondering if I don’t like them, am I able to return them?
Thanks.
Honestly, $1000 for all the work that went into them, that is a fair price.
It's not.
How much would you pay someone to spend a week digging a huge hole with a shovel and filling it back in?
@@miscreant1739 If it was for something I needed, then probably a lot. If the hole was dug just for show then probably not so much..
@@harrysamwel3665 there’s no hole… it was filled back in. But hey, a lot of work went into to it so it must be worth a lot, right?
With that said.. A beautiful cable can be like nice furniture, painting, speakers or whatever.. To a certain point you could pay for the craftmanship. If I had a real hifi room with really nice looking preamp, amp and speakers I would very much like to complement these with nice looking cables. Not for sound quality but for looks. But those cables in the $2000-3000 and up are just snakeoil. This one for about $1000 is up there on the VERY high end of the ”worth it” price scale. There are cheaper highend looking type of cables. But the quality of the build is hard to assess over the internet. So these are a little of chance to buy.
Why not. But maybe any Kimber Kable 12 TC for pooor :o)
Nice Honest review.
You have these?
honesty is the wrong word - it's his own subjective opinion, which may or may not have any bearing whatsoever on what someone else might think.
@@maffs6270 You know those things aren't mutually exclusive, yeah?
Danny has torn the brains outta some of these guys.
👍
What about pure silver conductor interconnects? Thanks.
Silver and copper sound different, you'll have to do a comparison yourself to understand that.
@@bayard1332 Yes. They do sound different. I have both puee copper, silver coated copper and pure silver interconnects. From what Danny mentioned, I am now wondering if all silver conductor affects bass. My speaker wires are all copper.
I’ve constructed multiple interconnects, a few of which were made with silver-plated, oxygen-free copper, and a few with solid silver interconnects. Never liked any of them in my system, due to their tendency towards sounding clinical and forward in the upper mids and treble.
Will these work with my headphones? My old cable keeps breaking where you plug it in...
6 or 8 foot?
It was a 6' pair.
Double blind test without saying prices with your own ears and your own kit is the ONLY way. No bull, no recommendations and nothing else. Pure snake oil for people with excessive amounts of money to waste. As so nicely put right at the start but I'll state that bit in layman's terms.
It is not your money.
@@solomonstewart1025 It might not be but it's worth pointing out it is snake oil.
So......What if I believe the world is flat AND I believe that cable raw material, geometry, impedance, and capacitance makes a huge difference ?
We'll help you out with that flat world thing another time. :-)
This cable costs as much as your speakers... gtfo with that.
It truly is LOL
Sure
most people using equipment where their audio signal is on some cheap PCB board traces but then want to put it on 1,000 cables down the pipeline as if it will make a difference. what idiots
They have done double blind tests with wiring from a LAMP put up against the fanciest cables out their. No one could tell the difference. Respectfully I think Ill pass.
I've done that and even did it on camera. I could easily pick out the differences.
@@dannyrichie9743 Respectfully have an independent entity set up the double blind where you and other parties are satisfied with the conditions. Everyone sit down and try to pick up which is which. And I'd put a serious amount of money up that you or anyone else would NEVER be able to tell the difference.
@@dannyrichie9743 their are famous studios and engineers that have very high end studios and systems and it's telling that they do not use exotic cables at all in those systems.
As a former salesman of audio gear, I know my ears aren't particularly good or bad. I believe you buy value and figure out your budgets on that level for the remaining accouterments. Some folks build listening rooms and start with nothing but clever, normally expensive, equipment.
They are often distracted by price and the need to assuage their egos despite having my ears.They waste resources because the waste is of little/no consequence. They are the folks who extoll Porsches and demean Corvettes. 'Value' has no value..
easy way to solve if speaker cables make a difference. 2 speakers and a different speaker cable for each speaker, if theres a difference it should stand out a mile.
The subtle differences in anything audiophile needs an acclimation period. We are creatures of habit. That period can be weeks to months. I do not need an "immediate" improvement. With better wire, I want LESS things to distract me over time. Now, to be honest, I have not yet EVER had a deficiency in my playback that could be attributed to the speaker interconnect. That could be because I am already using very good cable. Croatia is a place that I go to for vacation sometimes. Now I have a reason to make a new friend. Thank you Danny!
I'll sell you all a thicker and better battery, (clears throat) I mean audiophile cable for $500 with lifetime warranty and free shipping!
No you won't.
I’m confused. Think I’ll go listen to some music…
I've seen earphone cables selling for SIX TIMES that amount, so...
Now that's a sexy coat hanger! Haha All love Danny.
For the initiated out there- are you guys claiming it's not a measurable performance improvement, but rather it IS a subjective audible improvement to your ears- be it soundstage, imaging etc?
Bc I can concede to that in my neophite ignorance
Ps I'm asking for a friend
Without the right cable you are nothing! (lol)
Respect your stereo - get the cable right!
So you can sleep well and dream of the next big step-up!
😅😅😅all of Blender. Sommer cable elefant. 4x2.5mm2 /m for 6.50€/$. Super Tests and results.
Drug addicts have this same problem where they're chasing a destination they wont find, and they fiend for any incremental improvement in result. Regardless of whether the improvement is perceived or real, the psychological effect that it has is damaging beyond the audiophile hobby. Healthy indulgences toe the line of unhealthy addiction, or thered be no substance to the indulgence
Really
@@sloboat55 yes, particularly if the cognitive cues present themselves. There is nothing wrong with the desire to achieve the best audio possible. When people do insane things for trivial improvement, isolate from familial relationships, etc., that is when us professionals are called in to salvage a situation. Thus, if it helps even one person, the conversation is worth having and the awareness is worth recognizing.
@@TrueLies23The psych ward is across the street. Careful crossing.
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$900.00 in packaging and $100.00 in cables?
Not at all.
@@dannyrichie9743 just kidding, Danny. Seem like a great product for those in that price range.
@@scottmackey4182 For the time this guy spends making them, and for the end result, the price is really good.
@@dannyrichie9743 maybe $30 packaging, $120 material, $200 work and then $650 profit and tax? 65% may sound much but for low volume expensive stuff that’s not that much overhead. The thing is, if mass produced this could cost less than $400 probably. With a good profit.
I wish high end active speakers (with streaming and low lag wireless connectivity) became the norm so we no longer need to think about crap such as thousands of dollars for a cable or a network switch.
Look at the Linn Exakt active speakers with DAC and power amps built in, Akubarik, 350 and 360 models
That comes with it's own set of problems and limitations.
@@dannyrichie9743 Much worse ones!
So what I'm hearing is that the world is a round ball or something? Let's see some evidence of that.
Know how a level works?
I LOVE your speakers and other products and will not hold it against you that you have been fooled by Disney and Nasa as they are the same company.
Level =/= flat. Level is a surface that is perpendicular to the tangent line of gravity pulling an object towards center of mass of the earth.
Yes it uses curved liquids perpendicular to the center of the Earth.
This is not the place for that debate, but have you ever seen a shadow? It is directly related to the shape of what makes it. I can see the shadow of the earth on the moon. :-) Every other planet and moon in our solar system is round, but the earth is flat? I don't think so.
@@dannyrichie9743pip, pap, pip, pip, PAP, kung-fu.
What's your share of those one thousand dollars cables? It's not a thing to be ashamed of, nobody does advertising for free
I am very open and transparent right up front. I make nothing on any recommendations that I make.
Link in description. lmao product placement atleast have the stones to just admit it
@@user540000 In case you didn't catch it. I actually just made a recommendation to a company that produces a product that directly competes with cables that we sell. So I am not really helping myself at all with this one. I am only helping our customers.