I have used hundreds of thousands of Baldwin filters and only had one failure that is very remarkable of 40 years of using them and multiple failures when I wasn't able to use a Baldwin filter which was my first choice
I'd go with the baldwin but make sure to change it before I hit 5K miles. That sloppy glue on the K&N bugs me to no end, even though the K&N appears to be of higher quality, FYI nobody else tests filter as well as you, Pete. I've learned more about filters than I ever thought I would.
K & N 👍 Better micron rating, silicone ADBV, more threads. Just a better filter all around IMHO. Worth the extra 5 or 6 bucks. Added protection it's worth it 👍 Nice review 👍
I wouldn't go out my way for either one of these filters. Rather than the K&N, just buy equivalent Super Tech MP series with nylon cage ~$6 WM. Other than center tube, same filters. The Baldwin with nitrile adbv, low-ish efficiency, not readily available. And not one I'd buy in bulk from RA to reduce shipping costs. So, both just a meh for me. Thanks for the vid.
Was wondering if all the extended mileage filters with low micron ratings will actually have lower filtration rates near the end of their lifecycle because they have trapped so much in deposits? If ever I win the lottery, I'm going to run a car with extended oil and filter til it seizes as an experiment. Well, my wife will. I'll still do 5K OCI
The _vast majority_ of products sold at WM that are "name brand" are manufactured specifically for WM, and are lower grade, cheaper versions of that "name brand" product. Master Lock & WM have an interesting story that underscores this.
False. Accurate if you're referring to name brands making stuff for Walmart under the Super Tech name maybe but Valvoline isn't making a different blend of their oil for Walmart then they are for Autozone.
Pete, Awesome video! both interesting filters. Baldwin filter looks very good for the price point. A good solid filter you can use with confidence. Differences in the base plates and bypass valve engineering always amazes me. It would be so cool to see the filter and bypass in action! Have a nice weekend!
i was going to give the win to the KN until I saw the length of the filters. I would still take KN over the baldwin, however, still take a Purolator or Wix
If these filters were the only options on the shelf that would fit my application, I would use the K&N. Better media and a silicone anti-drainback valve justify the cost difference. One interesting thing is what looks like some kind of blue sealant on the Baldwin's baseplate. I do like how the Baldwin's coil spring is a "preference".
The race for low quality control continues. As does the fudging of the filter ratings. It would be nice if there was a national standard for filter ratings
Hi Andrew, I have two separate videos of those sizes. Here are the links. ua-cam.com/video/3LMAAdhZKWc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher ua-cam.com/video/r5rkXdZ_7V8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
I'm personally not a fan of either of those filters, but I would and have used the Baldwins a long time ago. They are well constructed but use your typical cellulose media and nitrile rubber construction. OK for your low change intervals around 3k miles. Don't really like anything K&N makes, but I have used their products 35+ years ago. The 'select' seems to be all over now compared to the old white cans. The Baldwin filters serve the Ag market and heavy truck industry where they have frequent oil service so those filters are just fine for those customers.
If I'm using Royal Purple, Motul, Redline, Amsoil or Liqui Moli then I would use K&N. If regular Brands like Castrol, Valvoline, Mobile1 or Penrite then Baldwin. The reason is K&N is ment to filter the Oil quicker then regular oil filter.
I'll be sticking with the Premium Guard Extended/ Microgard Select filters. Much better construction and they have an integrated relief valve. Premium Guard Extended can be had at a better price if you can find deals.
the K&N is the better filter but the sloppy glue and the price ! The baldwin only has 2 grooves a nitrile adv and cheap filter media ! I myself would not use either one !
If they were next to each other on the shelf, I’d probably go Baldwin, but you can go to Walmart and get the K&N. But also between my house and Walmart is the Toyota Dealership where I can get the OEM for the same price
I've used the Baldwin B43 and the K/N filter at different times in my G6. I bought the Baldwin because of its reputation in heavy trucking and industrial applications, yet would choose the K/N again due to better filtration if desperate for a decent filter. However, I'd choose my Motorcraft FL321 over both of them. Good video and comparison/focus points :)
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I have used hundreds of thousands of Baldwin filters and only had one failure that is very remarkable of 40 years of using them and multiple failures when I wasn't able to use a Baldwin filter which was my first choice
I’ve heard where on the K&N phoney nut is welded onto the bottom of the filter housing has leaked at the weld.
I've heard that too but don't believe it's a common issue, probably happened once and the rumor has spread. LOL
K&N the better, good video
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Great job Pete as usual 👍
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The Walmarts in my area are phasing out the K&N filter so I bought them for $5 a piece at one of my local Walmarts.
Hi Dan,
That's a pretty good deal👍
Great video! I've used many Baldwin filters over the years but only in industrial applications.
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I'd go with the baldwin but make sure to change it before I hit 5K miles. That sloppy glue on the K&N bugs me to no end, even though the K&N appears to be of higher quality,
FYI nobody else tests filter as well as you, Pete. I've learned more about filters than I ever thought I would.
Thanks, Jim
I appreciate it.👍
K & N 👍
Better micron rating, silicone ADBV, more threads.
Just a better filter all around IMHO. Worth the extra 5 or 6 bucks. Added protection it's worth it 👍
Nice review 👍
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This is the first time i have heard of a rating as large as 40 microns. I bet it has high flow.
Had shown this video to Joe! We were visiting there yesterday. Not Joe in Florida, but our cousin, Joe. He liked it! Great job, Pete! 👍😊
Gave You a big “LIKE” yesterday while watching with Joe. Commenting here today. 😊
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Baldwin Filters are the same as what use to be Hastings years ago
I think I'd go with Supertech over either of these.
I'd buy the Baldwin!!
I wouldn't go out my way for either one of these filters. Rather than the K&N, just buy equivalent Super Tech MP series with nylon cage ~$6 WM. Other than center tube, same filters. The Baldwin with nitrile adbv, low-ish efficiency, not readily available. And not one I'd buy in bulk from RA to reduce shipping costs. So, both just a meh for me. Thanks for the vid.
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Was wondering if all the extended mileage filters with low micron ratings will actually have lower filtration rates near the end of their lifecycle because they have trapped so much in deposits? If ever I win the lottery, I'm going to run a car with extended oil and filter til it seizes as an experiment. Well, my wife will. I'll still do 5K OCI
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The _vast majority_ of products sold at WM that are "name brand" are manufactured specifically for WM, and are lower grade, cheaper versions of that "name brand" product. Master Lock & WM have an interesting story that underscores this.
False. Accurate if you're referring to name brands making stuff for Walmart under the Super Tech name maybe but Valvoline isn't making a different blend of their oil for Walmart then they are for Autozone.
Pete,
Awesome video! both interesting filters. Baldwin filter looks very good for the price point. A good solid filter you can use with confidence.
Differences in the base plates and bypass valve engineering always amazes me. It would be so cool to see the filter and bypass in action!
Have a nice weekend!
Thanks, Kevin
Have a nice weekend also👍
I choose the Baldwin not because it is better but because the K&N looks sloppy.
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i was going to give the win to the KN until I saw the length of the filters. I would still take KN over the baldwin, however, still take a Purolator or Wix
A $5 filter with $5 shipping is a $10 filter if i count all of my fingers
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While the K&N might be slightly better overall, it is not worth double the price of the Baldwin. I would go with the Baldwin.
That Baldwin material looked like a screen door .
If these filters were the only options on the shelf that would fit my application, I would use the K&N. Better media and a silicone anti-drainback valve justify the cost difference. One interesting thing is what looks like some kind of blue sealant on the Baldwin's baseplate.
I do like how the Baldwin's coil spring is a "preference".
Hi Jeff,
I'm noticing a lot of the sealant around the baseplates lately.
Good to see a similar K&N, as I just switched from aFe on 2005 Chevy to K&N.
The race for low quality control continues. As does the fudging of the filter ratings. It would be nice if there was a national standard for filter ratings
Id love to see b160 vs b7449 only difference that im aware of is length
Hi Andrew,
I have two separate videos of those sizes. Here are the links.
ua-cam.com/video/3LMAAdhZKWc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
ua-cam.com/video/r5rkXdZ_7V8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
The K&N seems to be better than the Baldwin. Another great job Pete! Have an awesome weekend! Merri :)
Thanks, Merri
Have a Great weekend also👍
What's going on with some filters, kn with sloppy glue, just like the motorcraft filter. Baldwin seem good quality.
Good question
You might want to watch UTG's new video on oil filters. I am looking at filters differently now.
I never heard of Baldwin b4 nice sharing 👍
I'm personally not a fan of either of those filters, but I would and have used the Baldwins a long time ago. They are well constructed but use your typical cellulose media and nitrile rubber construction. OK for your low change intervals around 3k miles. Don't really like anything K&N makes, but I have used their products 35+ years ago. The 'select' seems to be all over now compared to the old white cans. The Baldwin filters serve the Ag market and heavy truck industry where they have frequent oil service so those filters are just fine for those customers.
If I'm using Royal Purple, Motul, Redline, Amsoil or Liqui Moli then I would use K&N. If regular Brands like Castrol, Valvoline, Mobile1 or Penrite then Baldwin. The reason is K&N is ment to filter the Oil quicker then regular oil filter.
I'll be sticking with the Premium Guard Extended/ Microgard Select filters. Much better construction and they have an integrated relief valve. Premium Guard Extended can be had at a better price if you can find deals.
K&N select vs. K&N gold series next please
Let's see NAPA Gold and the fram xg
$5 filters at most .
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Big pass on the Baldwin , and not impressed with the kindergarten glue attempt of KN . Good vid Pete. 👍
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the K&N is the better filter but the sloppy glue and the price ! The baldwin only has 2 grooves a nitrile adv and cheap filter media ! I myself would not use either one !
Fram &N again?
Nice!
Thanks, Jim👍
If they were next to each other on the shelf, I’d probably go Baldwin, but you can go to Walmart and get the K&N. But also between my house and Walmart is the Toyota Dealership where I can get the OEM for the same price
no bypass on a 10$ filter.. omg
This size filter is made for the vehicles that already have a bypass valve.
Like 226
I'll go with the K&N
did anyone else notice what looked like blue rtv silicone on the base plate?
Yep, I've noticed this on other filters as well.
I've used the Baldwin B43 and the K/N filter at different times in my G6. I bought the Baldwin because of its reputation in heavy trucking and industrial applications, yet would choose the K/N again due to better filtration if desperate for a decent filter. However, I'd choose my Motorcraft FL321 over both of them.
Good video and comparison/focus points :)
Thanks, Wes👍