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  • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
    @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +11

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    • @michalgajdos7575
      @michalgajdos7575 Рік тому

      I wonder if cement works as aibrush cleaner too!???
      Every cheap airbrush I own (and is still operational) are recently cleaned, maintained + needles reconditioned,all 5 of them.And as each one has specific use don't want to destroy perfect status in department of airbrushes.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому

      It does, but it's an extremely aggressive cleaner so be careful with o-rings and plastic or rubber parts

  • @izzydarkhart4144
    @izzydarkhart4144 10 місяців тому +18

    Video changed my life. I always build and kit bash in large amounts, then I prime everything in large amounts, then I paint in large amounts. I burned through so much cement glue and spray paint, and I have been looking for alternatives, but now i could simply just refill my cement glue and sprue glue bottles. Huge money saver.

  • @darryldyke1264
    @darryldyke1264 Рік тому +119

    The 1% difference in material composition is likely a production tolerance. I'm a production engineer and I've used similar loopholes to describe the same product as 2 different ones. No doubt in my mind that these are identical. Great video. I think I've bought my last Extra Thin 👍

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому +5

      Thanks mate, good to have confirmation of my suspicions from a professional

  • @felipecardoza9967
    @felipecardoza9967 Рік тому +117

    Knowing that acetone melts styrene, and gluing plastic models is actually a process of micromelting plastic together, this makes perfect sense. Thanks a million.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому +8

      Happy to help

    • @miguelpaivabezerra34
      @miguelpaivabezerra34 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@JuanHidalgoMiniaturesIs there any substitute for acetone? In my country 100% acetone cannot be sold by anyone...

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  7 місяців тому +1

      @miguelpaivabezerra34 not that i know of sorry

    • @miguelpaivabezerra34
      @miguelpaivabezerra34 7 місяців тому +1

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I find It Very Sad, Because my brother and I won The mechagaikotsu giveaway some months Ago, and we are Full of runners with no use
      We won 13 gunpla models. And sometimes I wish I could use the runners tô fix some parts or even more

    • @xTheZapper
      @xTheZapper Місяць тому

      It's not melting, it's dissolving. Melting is a heating process and this is a chemical process.

  • @iatebambismom
    @iatebambismom 2 роки тому +201

    I bet there is a lot of old modeller wisdom out there that not everyone knows. Might be an interesting miniseries to research.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +31

      Indeed! I was genuinely surprised people didn't knew this. It might be cool to look for more tips like this

    • @Grendelnz
      @Grendelnz 2 роки тому +11

      Theres a great older video from 1950 of a guy assembling plastic models, and he has what looks like his own made up plastic glue, with the jar taped to a brick. im guessing he had already knocked one jar over. I saw that and thought it was very good idea :)

    • @lokalnyork
      @lokalnyork 2 роки тому +4

      Old (and new, they still come out!) modelling magazines are treasure throve of modelling knowledge!

    • @xanderguldie
      @xanderguldie 2 роки тому +7

      Also, things like basic chemistry seem also lost on the last couple of generations

    • @NutjobGTO
      @NutjobGTO Рік тому +3

      I mean it was only like... December when I learned about Sprue Goo

  • @equals-kl9hm
    @equals-kl9hm 2 роки тому +36

    I've been building models for 40 years, I had no idea. Thank you.

  • @asiburger
    @asiburger 2 роки тому +96

    Now THIS is an actual secret tip. Like, 99% of secret tips are neither secret, nor helpful, but this one is. I was hesitant to get it before, because I found it hard to come by in Germany (i tried during the heoght of covid to be fair) but now I'll look into it again, for sure!

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +9

      Happy to help, I never do clickbait. I always deliver

    • @roccoraspanti5742
      @roccoraspanti5742 2 роки тому +9

      To be honest, Juan is one of the few youtubers (that I know at least) who provide actual and useful tips

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +5

      AWWWWWW 😘

    • @xanafein8453
      @xanafein8453 9 годин тому

      The real secret is that the two solvents used are available for purchase individually by the liter at most chemical supply places for around 25 usd each. So for 50 bucks and some effort spent mixing you can have 2 liters of extra thin.

  • @nornironlad8472
    @nornironlad8472 Рік тому +10

    Saw this recently, double checked the product safety sheets, bought a couple of bottles, Juan is absolutely correct and I now have all the Tamiya super thin glue AND all the sprue glue I need. Definitely recommend.👍

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому

      Thanks. Happy to help

    • @BlueGillage
      @BlueGillage Рік тому

      Hmmm, I really want to believe this. So according to this logic, tamiya thin will bond plastic and yet clean paint from an airbrush. So it's a bonder and a paint thinner, supposedly? My question is, will it bond my fingers together as well? I always assumed it would. Im confused lol. How can paint thinner bond skin? Enquiring minds want to know.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому +1

      No it won't bond your fingers, because it's not really glue.
      It's solvents, and solvents can melt plastic and clean paint. That's how plastic cement works, it melts the plastic and fuses the two pieces together

    • @JimmyCrawford
      @JimmyCrawford Рік тому

      Have ever got plastic cement onto something you've already painted? It'll flake that right off the surface. So yeah, it does both things very well.@@BlueGillage

  • @NikkiAnnMarie
    @NikkiAnnMarie 2 роки тому +22

    For anyone interested, the quick setting cement is just 40% acetone, 40% butyl acetate , 20% methyl ethyl ketone (also called butanone). So if you want to replicate it, 4 parts airbrush cleaner, 1 part MEK.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +1

      AWESOME TIP

    • @shaneramsey251
      @shaneramsey251 2 роки тому +1

      Sorry for what may be a dumb question but what is MEK?

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +4

      Methyl Ethyl Ketone

    • @Grendelnz
      @Grendelnz 2 роки тому +1

      awesome, i just went looking for this and you answered it all :)

    • @statoilbensin2190
      @statoilbensin2190 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah same goes for Mr cement SP just that its ethyl acetate and acetone. Butanon is used in mr cement the regular version but might be banned soon as butanon (mek) is now on the list of dangerous carcinogen.

  • @TomaszStachewicz
    @TomaszStachewicz 2 роки тому +71

    Most plastic glues (including one you showed in this video) are a solution of plastic (polystyrene) in butyl acetate, sometimes with some other add-ons. Which means you can revive a "dried" plastic glue - usually becoming half a bottle of transparent plastic - just by adding butyl acetate. And that "sprue goo" is therefore the same solution but with more polystyrene in less solvent. You can also make your own plastic glue by simply dissolvin sprue leftovers (transparent polystyrene for that professional transparent look) in butyl acetate. Which costs close to nothing, 1 Liter for 10 Euros in my local chemistry store.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +2

      Good tip!

    • @Trakkson
      @Trakkson 2 роки тому +14

      That's not true, not in this case. Tamiya Extra Thin and similar glues do not contain any sort of plastics. It's pure solvent. Tamiya Extra Thin is a 50:50 mix of butyl acetate and acetone, quick setting version swaps butyl acetate for ethyl acetate and adds third solvent, but I don't remember what it is. You can just pick up a bottle of acetone and butyl acetate and have literally liters of the Extra Thin Cement for just a few bucks. And DON'T add any plastics into it, that's what makes Tamiya Extra Thin so great - it has no fillers.

    • @viper29ca
      @viper29ca 2 роки тому +3

      @@Trakkson 20% MEK is the third solvent. 40% ethyl acetate, 40% acetone, and 20% butannon (MEK)

    • @AngusBeef0
      @AngusBeef0 Рік тому

      @@viper29ca yeah and i dont think the MEK-sub is the same thing as what they use

    • @viper29ca
      @viper29ca Рік тому +1

      @@AngusBeef0 Not saying anything about what will sub with what, just explaining what goes in to Tamiya Extra Thin Quickset.

  • @felipfelop8220
    @felipfelop8220 2 роки тому +16

    Here's a tip for you,just add varying amounts of clear sprue to the airbrush cleaner and you can create whatever viscosity you like to suit yourself,hope this helps

  • @mirage809
    @mirage809 2 роки тому +16

    Heh. Today I learned...
    Need to get my hands on a bottle of airbrush cleaner even though I've never touched an airbrush.
    This kind of simple advice is what this hobby lives and dies by. Will happily pass the knowledge on to others, like you've done today.

  • @leonpelao4806
    @leonpelao4806 Рік тому +2

    Good old plain lacquer thinner, sold at your local hardware store, does the same job and is much cheaper. Lacquer thinner is made of Butyl Acetate, Acetone, and other chemicals. I have used it for many years not only to glue polystyrene but also to clean my airbrush.

  • @Almightyrastus
    @Almightyrastus Рік тому +7

    I have used something called EMA Plastic Weld for ages and that is a very similar type of liquid to the Tamiya stuff. It is dichloromethane which can be otherwise bought for less than £5 for half a litre here in the UK. Chuck in a glass funnel and you have years of refills for very little cost.

  • @JucheGang
    @JucheGang 2 роки тому +7

    My first bottle of tamiya was just running out! Absolute lifesaver and legend!!

  • @davidpalmer4184
    @davidpalmer4184 Рік тому +3

    Thank you Juan, I have just confirmed this through other video's. The benefit with using the air brush cleaner as a glue is that you can still use it to clean your airbrush!

  • @nicholassinnett2958
    @nicholassinnett2958 2 роки тому +9

    And I was just considering switching from the Revell needle-dropper plastic glue to Tamiya extra thin, too. Looks like I'll be getting some of the airbrush cleaner instead. Thanks for the tip!

  • @stormcrow7611
    @stormcrow7611 2 роки тому +2

    Been hobbying for many years. After watching this video, I feel ignorant, but then smart, so close together it feels like its at the same time. Cheers.

  • @hingyee2123
    @hingyee2123 22 дні тому

    I think i'll buy both! I like to bring one or two models when i travel so the small container is very handy. Once i'm running low i'll add more from the big bottle to the little bottle. Thanks for saving me a little bit of money...

  • @chrislukas4966
    @chrislukas4966 2 роки тому +4

    I'm fairly new to the hobby, relatively speaking, and I was literally about to buy the Extra Thin Plastic Glue. I'll be buying the Airbrush Cleaner instead. Thank you so much for the tip!! I'd love to hear some more.

  • @ericchristopher1687
    @ericchristopher1687 Рік тому

    Thank you! I shared this video on Facebook modeling sites, and everyone who responded said they also did not know these products were essentially identical!

  • @c123bthunderpig
    @c123bthunderpig 19 днів тому

    AMAZING INFORMATION. THE BEST PART IS YOU CAN USE A BIGGER BRUSH THAN THE TINY ONE IN THE BOTTLE. THANKS.

  • @AlterRaigo
    @AlterRaigo 2 роки тому +10

    I am very new to the miniature hobby and this blew my mind! I checked, and in Canada, the air brush cleaner (of 250 mL) is actually cheaper ($15) than the 40 mL Tamiya thin cement bottle ($18.99)! 🤣

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +1

      Yep

    • @thanassisveggos627
      @thanassisveggos627 Рік тому +4

      Where in Canada do you live? I live in Ottawa area and I get extra thin for $6.99 and Airbrush cleaner for $13.99. very similar pricing in Montreal and Toronto too. Fun fact: I bought my first airbrush 3 years ago and after a year of cleaning with Tamiya airbrush cleaner I noticed two of my o-rings dissolved! I called the manufacturer for replacement rings explaining how it happened and he told me to avoid using Tamiya cleaner because it was solvent based and too harsh. He recommended using Vallejo cleaner instead.

  • @WarHogz
    @WarHogz 10 днів тому

    This is a genuinely superb tip, thanks Juan!

  • @WolfTau
    @WolfTau 2 роки тому +3

    So awesome, I’ve been in the hobby for 25 years and I never knew this. I knew a few others but this is great.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +2

      Awesome! If you have any other tips like this you want to share feel free to send them to
      juanhidalgo.miniatures@gmail.com
      I would love to make more videos about this.

  • @danfirst3539
    @danfirst3539 2 роки тому +1

    So glad i keep the old empty containers. Thanks for the tip im gonna refill my empties!

  • @joelquaintance9025
    @joelquaintance9025 4 місяці тому

    I am not a model builder, but I am trying to fix an irreplaceable acrylic part. I hope that this will work better than super glue (CA). Thank you so much for your honesty and advice to your fellow builders.

  • @billblass5961
    @billblass5961 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this, I believe you. I found you just after ordering both of those, but now I'll have the fancy bottles to refill with the airbrush cleaner.

  • @grozwald
    @grozwald 2 роки тому +2

    Damn near 30 years in this hobby and I was today years old when I found out about this. Thank you!

  • @StormcastMarine
    @StormcastMarine Рік тому

    I own both products, tried it, and it works.
    I would never have guessed.

  • @docdeth904
    @docdeth904 Рік тому

    I got a 32OZ bottle of both, mixed in a glass gallon jug, now I have enough cement to build a 1:1 battleship AND make my airbrushes squeaky clean for years to come! Thanks!

  • @cucuuck
    @cucuuck Рік тому

    As a follow-up, as you sparked my curiosity, I checked the difference between the "quick setting" version of Tamiya's extra-thin plastic cement. the "Butyl Acetate" is replaced with "ethyl acetate" (both are common esthers used in nail varnishes), which evaporates a lot faster due to lower flash point. So that's just it. Acetone + an esther solvent. The aceton melts the PVC, the esther is just a filler which when evaporated, lets the acetone evaporate, and the melted plastic solidifies again.

  • @polticalme1677
    @polticalme1677 Рік тому

    This is a very useful video. I don't use "convenience" airbrush cleaners, so I had no idea about this. It isn't the cheapest solution though.
    I use acetone and styrofoam instead of Tamiya Extra Thin. I usually buy a 1 litre can of acetone for 5 Euros (1 litre equals 25 bottles of Tamiya Extra Thin!). The styrofoam (= foam styrene) comes for free as packaging material. Before using it make sure that it's absolutely clean and free of dust, greas and oil.
    For the 40 ml bottle you start with 35 ml of acetone and an A5-sized piece of styrofoam, about 1 cm thick. Cut or tear off pieces that are small enough to fit through the bottle neck. Pour the acetone into the bottle and add the styrofoam pieces one by one. The styrofoam dissolves completely in the 40 ml glue bottle. If you prefer a slightly thicker glue, just use 30 ml of acetone and carefully add more styrofoam till you find the consistency you prefer. In both cases you'll notice that there's still some room left in the bottle after the styrofoam has "gone". You can fill it up with acetone. You can also use pure acetone. In that case its characteristics are very similar to "Plastic Weld", but decisively cheaper.
    You want to be careful not to flood your styrene parts with this extra thin glue, especially if you use pure acetone. You can smell it when you open the can: acetone is a very strong dissolvant. It'll "eat" styrene if you apply it too generously, but if you use the tiny brush of an empty Tamiya glue bottle you'll be absolutey fine. Acetone evaporates within seconds and won't leave any residue. Make sure you work in a well ventilated place, but I guess all modellers know and do this anyway.
    I use this homemade glue since the early 1980s and this way I had "Tamiya Extra Thin" long before Tamiya even thought of inventing it. I got the trick from an old model railroader back then. He built H0 scale buildings from scratch, using sheet styrene. That guy saved me tons of money!

  • @BlueGillage
    @BlueGillage Рік тому

    Awesome tip and I cant wait to try it. Heres another $ saver. Testors paint brush thinner cost like $6 for 1.75oz bottle. A quart of lacquer thinner costs about $10. It works better and you get 16x the amount more. Its the equivalent of buying $108 of small Testors bottles. Again, ty sir.

  • @bloodbarage
    @bloodbarage 2 роки тому +1

    I have so many Tamiya ratios with sprue glue in different amounts. This is such an amazing idea.

  • @theanimaster
    @theanimaster 2 роки тому +6

    WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTT????????
    THIS is probably the most breakthrough discovery EVER in the hobby!!! SERIOUSLY!! Thanks for this!!

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому

      It's not mine to be clear, this is well known in the model building scene

    • @theanimaster
      @theanimaster 2 роки тому

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I must be in the wrong circles then! This is the first I’ve heard and I thought I was fairly well-connected. Thanks for sharing and please continue to keep us plebs informed! :P

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому

      Happy to help 😘

  • @FSDraconis
    @FSDraconis Рік тому

    I am so glad I have never bought this airbrush cleaner... Thank you for a great resource!

  • @WeyounLP
    @WeyounLP 2 роки тому

    Ive had my tamiya extra thin for 4 years now building 50+ minis and a couple of scale kits, and the thing is still half full. still a great recommendation juan!

  • @logancm
    @logancm 2 роки тому +4

    40 years in the hobby and no clue… this just blew my mind.. I need to pay better attention. Thank you

  • @nathank1512
    @nathank1512 2 роки тому

    I was cringing at thinking about buying another bottle of this stuff. I have seen people make model cement out of a bottle of it but I didn't want to purchase another bottle to sacrifice for this purpose. With this hack I can fill my old bottle and make some cement too! Thanks :)

  • @ep1kone
    @ep1kone 2 роки тому +5

    Well, I didn’t know this, and need to get more for sprue glue and all these awesome Eldar models we need to put together! I don’t mind revells applicator though, and the little extra viscosity for many models. Great tip!

  • @jheu781
    @jheu781 Рік тому

    I just bought Some Plastruct Bondene to do plasticard work and build models. I knew there was a lot of acetate in it. This just game me the recipe to make my own batch. Thank you so much!

  • @mayduke59
    @mayduke59 Рік тому +1

    In New Jersey, USA, it's $3.50 for Extra Thin & $10 for a bottle Tamiya Acrylic Thinner. But more In a Thinner bottle & I like the idea of not over glue with paint brush, & also putting old sprues into Thinner basically & making glue.

  • @brianfpp540
    @brianfpp540 Рік тому

    A grest tip, veteran modeller of almost 50 yrs and never knew. I usually buy the glue 2 bottles at a time, buying this in future will get me 3x as much..

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому

      Exactly! You refill the empty bottles. It's also perfect to make sprue goo

  • @12345dubai54321
    @12345dubai54321 2 роки тому +12

    I'm going to get the airbrush cleaner and just keep filling my small container. I do enjoy the applicator and the ease of use. Plus less likely to knock it over (i'm a clutz some times)

  • @highorbit3282
    @highorbit3282 Рік тому

    55 years of building, and I'm still learning. I have both items. I'll use the savings to buy another kit to add to my collection of 57 unbuilt car models. I do find that some glues behave differently from other glues depending on the kit manufacturer, so I'll do some testing

  • @TheCervelas
    @TheCervelas Рік тому

    tks man
    two liters of diy glue/airbrush cleaner costs 25 euro .
    and i never thought of checking the safety datasheets , now i can potentialy mix a lot of stuff myself as long as i have access to the ingredients.

  • @Rusty_Gold85
    @Rusty_Gold85 Рік тому

    Thanks for the Info. I like how you thought outside the square. Seems like 85% of any population just buy what's in front of them no thinking around it's chemical structure. Wait until they work out what's in all cleaning products and also how similar the stuff in shampoo's are !

  • @perfidy1103
    @perfidy1103 2 роки тому +2

    I don't hate blue, but I do love Juan Hidalgo! Thanks for the tip.

  • @jayandry3392
    @jayandry3392 Рік тому +1

    It’s an MSDS
    In the US. Material safety data sheet. I’m pretty sure it’s the same world wide. It is common knowledge to me that they are virtually identical but not identical.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому +2

      That's what o thought, but it's very clear that most people don't know it

  • @urbypilot2136
    @urbypilot2136 Рік тому

    Where I'm from, we can buy automotive acrylic paint and thinner from paint specialty stores. Automotive acrylic thinner works like plastic cement, and has the consistency of water and can be applied the way you used that airbrush cleaner. It's got strong fumes, but it's cheaper than plastic cement.

  • @terrydermatas731
    @terrydermatas731 2 роки тому +2

    Thx man. Great job. I love the thin cement and now you gave me a cheaper option

  • @MakeDo-Turner_Smith
    @MakeDo-Turner_Smith 2 місяці тому

    I have two glass Testors liquid cement bottles, with the original brushes from 1968, that I've refilled with hardware store lacquer thinner since they were first used up.
    I've never had a model joint failure.

  • @Devan...
    @Devan... 19 днів тому

    I haven't wanted to buy Extra Thin because of how expensive it is. $12 usd for that tiny little bottle! The bottle of cleaner is $16. That's a way better deal! Still more expensive than your's, but it is what it is. Thanks for this tip!

  • @CocoHutzpah
    @CocoHutzpah Рік тому

    I did not know that. With such a simple mixture, I'm definitely going to make my own when I run out next time.

  • @jkoeberli
    @jkoeberli Рік тому +1

    it`s not (only) the content that makes "cement" more expensive: it is the container (glass) and the applicator. the cleaner is just plastic with a plastic cap.

  • @seansky2721
    @seansky2721 7 місяців тому

    I've refilled my Tamiya extra thin glue container many times from a quart can of Metyl Ethyl Ketone. It's an excellent styrene solvent. It cleans red enamel paint from my brushes, too. The price on my 32-ounce can is $9.00 US.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  7 місяців тому +1

      That is a different chemical that also works very well to bond plastic

  • @antonybullock2240
    @antonybullock2240 2 місяці тому

    You absolute genius. Well done.

  • @timothymartin5538
    @timothymartin5538 2 роки тому +5

    This was really useful and well timed, just coming to the end of my current bottle of plastic magic, if I can re use it with some of this I will.
    Thank you very much

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +1

      Happy to help

    • @Isolated.Outpost
      @Isolated.Outpost 2 роки тому

      Worse - plastic magic changed their formula it seems and is much weaker. Looking for something new, and preferred it to tamiya sadly.

    • @timothymartin5538
      @timothymartin5538 2 роки тому

      @@Isolated.Outpost a well timed comment, as I've just come to the end of these Tamiya bottles.
      The Tamiya is weaker, ever so slightly, than plastic magic, however, I don't seem to be able to get hold of plastic magic either, I can live with the Tamiya, so I'm gonna find a refil and stick with it.

  • @joep1029
    @joep1029 Рік тому

    This was really helpful. I was just about to run out of my Tamiya so I was looking for a cheaper alternative. Weld On 3 and Plastruct both look very promising and are probably stronger but this is all I really need and is even cheaper. Thank you

  • @doubletire
    @doubletire 3 місяці тому

    This video has saved me allot of money over time. Thank you Juan!

  • @BloodlyTear
    @BloodlyTear 2 роки тому

    Hold on... So you want to say that ppl who were using this airbrush cleaner, clean there airbrush with plastic cement?
    Omg.
    Ok this is revelation! I bought my self that green pot after start watching your videos and now will keep that in mind for the refill!
    Love you man!

  • @johnhopkins6565
    @johnhopkins6565 Рік тому

    I use Crown MEK Substitute from Home Depot. Works great, the smell isn’t like everyone says.

  • @dougsundseth6904
    @dougsundseth6904 Рік тому

    If you want to save even more money, buy just straight acetone, which works great as a polystyrene solvent. You can get it at a building supply store or paint store, or if you don't want to buy a half-liter at a time, you can get acetone as a nail-polish remover as well. Acetone is quite volatile, so it will evaporate quite quickly, for both good and ill. When flowed into a gap, though (as is normal for plastic model kit assembly), it has plenty of time to soften and weld the joint.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому

      It's a good tip but I personally prefer the mix in the cleaner but it's definitely an option

  • @grahambate3384
    @grahambate3384 Рік тому

    Great idea. I spend hours goggling glue. All I could find was to use pvc pipe glue. But who wants a blue glue . 🤔 cheers Graham

  • @propanemusic
    @propanemusic 2 роки тому

    I am getting back into building models and cant find the thin cement anywhere but the cleaner I can thank you man!!!

  • @dolyharianto
    @dolyharianto 10 місяців тому

    Thanks Juan, my Extra Thin Cement is close to running out and this video saved me some bucks.

  • @Big_Gaz_1
    @Big_Gaz_1 Рік тому

    I use cellulose thinners for my models. yes it does have a strong smell so might not be for everyone but at around £17/€20 for 5 litres, it's way cheaper in the long run. i have had a can in my garage for 4 years now and have never needed to buy any poly cement whatsoever.

  • @alexsp7086
    @alexsp7086 6 днів тому

    I want to support Tamiya they make great stuff.

  • @doOf3r
    @doOf3r Рік тому

    You can also use the PVC/ABS Pipe Solvent that plumbers use which is even cheaper.

  • @xvxscarecrow
    @xvxscarecrow 4 місяці тому +4

    When i saw the ingredients list i laughed. I can buy 5l of acetone and 5l of butyl acetate for £32.70. Thats 10 liters. SO i can refil my bottles 250 times for 13 pence each time. My pile of shame is big but not that big lol

  • @Tonyblack261
    @Tonyblack261 Рік тому +1

    Cellulose Thinners can also be used as an extra thin cement.

  • @vincentlussier8264
    @vincentlussier8264 2 роки тому

    Yes sir!! They even smell the same! I tried it on two pieces of sprue and it worked perfectly fine! It IS the same stuff so I'm going to refill my old bottle it and save a little money. Shame on Tamiya since their products are more expensive than anyone else. They should change their name to Scamiya!

  • @tompintamini7722
    @tompintamini7722 2 роки тому

    you can also use this to melt polystyrene plastic chunks from sprue to obtain a very useful "sprue-goo" Plastic putty for gap filling.

  • @calessel3139
    @calessel3139 Рік тому +1

    I ran into a similar situation. I've always used Plastruct's non toxic Weldene for model glue. Unfortunately, Plastruct stopped its production a few years back. After some sleuthing I discovered that Weldene is (or was) a styrene solvent derived from citrus fruit oil known as Limonene. The chemical is typically used as a (more or less) non toxic "green" industrial cleaner and solvent. Although it's not easily available (you won't find it at your local hardware store), Limonene is readily found on line and about half the price of Weldene per unit cost (Although this last point is moot since, as I mentioned, Weldene isn't made anymore). I should note however, Limonene is highly flammable and a skin irritant so you still need to take caution when using it.

  • @esitu5655
    @esitu5655 Рік тому

    A even cheaper option is MEK, methyl ethyl ketone. Available in North America, but don’t know about Europe. It is toxic, but Canadian Tire in Canada sells it in manageable 1 litre containers.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому +1

      Different glue but yeah it works. I think it's what Mr. Hobby Cement S is made of

  • @jasonmoon4916
    @jasonmoon4916 2 роки тому

    awesome tip....gonna save my thin cement container and pour the thinner in when im low

  • @toferkrz946
    @toferkrz946 2 роки тому

    I bought my jar of Extra Thin a couple years ago and I only went through less than half of it, so I'm not going to lose any sleep over technically overpaying for it. Very interesting factoid though, thanks for that.

  • @Yakkers
    @Yakkers Рік тому

    For me the strat is to get one jar of the cement and then just refill it from the bottle of airbrush cleaner. Saves money and works well because once the jar is getting low it's hard to get at what's left anyways

  • @imdeaded
    @imdeaded 2 роки тому

    Light bulb . Ive been in the dark for so long . Thanks for this.

  • @Tarkovpepe2241
    @Tarkovpepe2241 2 роки тому

    I have been using my little green pot for years and I am just about to run out! Thanks so much! Grabbing that cleaner next!

  • @barkon
    @barkon Рік тому

    This is pretty darn cool. ESPECIALLY since I bought some Tamiya airbrush cleaner and decided, after one cleaning episode it was way too nasty to use as an airbrush cleaner XD

  • @DicePunk
    @DicePunk Рік тому +1

    I've long suspected this. Thanks for proving it!
    Now my clumsy ass will be able spill an even larger bottle of toxic chemicals all over my table.

  • @mattcappelli5822
    @mattcappelli5822 2 роки тому

    Very interesting. Have to give this a try. Just got an airbrush and have some tamiya paints I was going to try. Thanks for this hack!

  • @the.just.able.biker67
    @the.just.able.biker67 11 місяців тому

    I've gone even cheaper amd used cellulose thinners to glue sturen sheet parts together on a scratch build project.
    Tbh I'm not convinced it's as strong a bond as the revell contacta thing with the needle dispenser, but it certainly works.

  • @ookamithefangjoker
    @ookamithefangjoker Рік тому

    I'd personally use this more as a last resort than actually using it primarily. I've tried this before, and while it gets the job done, to my experience it's not a strong of a bond than actual cement. My other concern is if it's a specific brand of airbrush cleaner. I'll stick to actual cement because I'm more confident with it than subs, but thanks for the info and will consider it.

    • @Alarios711
      @Alarios711 Рік тому

      It is the exact same chemical, in the same exact concentration...
      Mate...

  • @ILikeYous
    @ILikeYous 2 роки тому

    good tip, its hard to get tamiya glue where I am at but the airbrush cleaner by tamiya is stocked at my local Hobby Town USA.

  • @jirhonarmstrong4107
    @jirhonarmstrong4107 2 роки тому

    This was great cuz I have a bottle of it and was thinking about when I need to buy more, now seeing this I can just refill it. Thank you so much my friend

  • @malcolmpowell9164
    @malcolmpowell9164 Рік тому

    Thanks for the heads up on this like you said who doesn't want to save money. 👍👍😊😊😊

  • @Valreg
    @Valreg 2 роки тому +1

    Smaller containers of consumer goods are more often more expensive per unit. Often times the amount of materials (boxes, labels, plastic containers etc) required to produce the smaller item is higher than the bigger one for the same volume. Also smaller volume containers require the factory machinery to run faster in some fashion to match the volume of the larger items. Even if these costs are the same somehow there is the convenience factor that is often a markup done my the marketing guys.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +1

      That would be ok if the larger one was sold as glue too.
      The thing is consumers don't know they have the option, to buy a larger and cheaper format

  • @Retrosicotte
    @Retrosicotte 2 роки тому +1

    I literally just bought some of this on (a very good) recommendation 3 days ago after the GW one clogged up within 2 days after purchase. Not too bothered though, it was my first purchase so I got the container/brush from the initial buy and can use this once I replenish with this cleaner in future. Thanks!

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому

      Happy to help, and as I say in the video it's not much money and it's a good first time purchase

    • @Retrosicotte
      @Retrosicotte 2 роки тому

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Certainly did better than that GW one. Thats £4.5 I'll never get back for a single use before hopelessly clogged.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому +1

      Of yeah, those are terrible but they can be unclogged with a lighter or a thin needle

    • @chetmanley1885
      @chetmanley1885 2 роки тому

      Hold the needle over a flame until you hear a pop, the clogging isn't unique to GW glue and it's a shame to waste it.

    • @CreamAle
      @CreamAle 2 роки тому

      So This will apply to any soft plastic glue container, especially the larger cyanoacrylate glues containers.
      You have two sizes you can squeeze and they do different things.
      Press on the wide front/back sides and glue will come out due to less volume area in the container.
      Press on the sides and the font and back will expand and cause any glue/solvents on the tip to then suck back into the container.
      Don't ever touch the tip on a surface, and don't ever shove anything to clear a clog. Both will introduce contamination which will catalyze the glue and cause it to activate.. for metal tipped applicators, a nice bit of fire also does the job but don't breathe it in as cyanoacrylate releases cyanide gas upon burning.
      Instead, pour a few drops on a surface and use thin thing to spread the glue.
      Having to carry cyanoacrylate glues for tours you end up learning a few things along the way.

  • @crushingvanessa3277
    @crushingvanessa3277 Рік тому

    Huge price difference. I just looked and the airbrush thinner where I am(Canada) is $16.50 and the thin glue is $9.00 for the two same sizes you showed. 40 ml into 250 ml is 6.25 times difference. Works out to $56.25 to buy 6 1/4 small bottles.

  • @Trazynn
    @Trazynn Рік тому

    Awesome. Especially considering the brush in the Tamiya glue bottle doesn't reach beyond one third of the thing, leaving a large part of the bottle untapped.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому

      You can actually extend the brush out to reach the bottom. It's telescopic.

  • @HeatherSanto
    @HeatherSanto 2 роки тому

    WOW, had no idea! Thank you so much for sharing this!

  • @theBomblu
    @theBomblu 2 роки тому +1

    As a firm non-believer of life hacks, man... this is ONE HELL OF A LIFE HACK!! Will definitely get myself some airbrush cleaner next time i'm at my hobby shop :) Would love to see if you have any other tips which you might take for granted but is completely new info to most of us!

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  2 роки тому

      I will have to think about that but it's for sure something very interesting to research

    • @theBomblu
      @theBomblu 2 роки тому

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Thanks! Would be great to see :)

  • @SvenEnterlein
    @SvenEnterlein 2 роки тому +16

    Here's the twist: Who would have thought that you can clean an airbrush with plastic glue? Great tip, thank you!

  • @good2us1
    @good2us1 Рік тому

    Have tried M.E.K. (Methyl Ethyl Keytone) ? It is used as a thinner, for paints, epoxy, etc…
    Get in quart and gallon sizes at any hardware store. It’ll last you a lifetime.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  Рік тому

      Yeah it works, I think it's the same chemical in Mr. hobby Cement S actually.
      Slightly different properties as this one but still great

  • @christophe_5119
    @christophe_5119 2 роки тому

    I have both products and had no idea! Thanks for the tip! Now will be able to make sprueglue and refill the bottles more easily / cheaply!

  • @karljones9357
    @karljones9357 Рік тому

    Well you learn something new everyday. Thanks for sharing

  • @FattyZee
    @FattyZee 2 роки тому

    This is absolutely Mental, in Australia its $9 AUD for the Glue and $13 AUD for the cleaner....this is a huge game changer