Living in Frankfurt am Main vs Living in Berlin| Living in Germany as a Foreigner
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Are you moving to Germany and wondering what it’s like living in Frankfurt Germany versus living in Berlin? or thinking about moving to Frankfurt: then this video is for you. Frankfurt and Berlin are on the list of top 10 cities in Germany and amongst the best cities in to live in Germany. this makes them both very attractive to internationals, expats and students alike. which is why I have decided to compare them both in this video by speaking with someone who has lived in Frankfurt and is currently also living in Berlin. We cover areas such as cost of living in Frankfurt, compared to cost of living in Berlin, job opportunities available in Frankfurt compared to job opportunities available in Berlin and so much more. Not only do we share the pros and cons of living in Frankfurt, but we also share the experience in comparison to living in Berlin.
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It's not all about money in Frankfurt :/ Frankfurt is so much more, it's so diverse and has so many different people living there. It's a financial capital yes, but this doesn't define us.
In order to really figure out the pros and cons you had to invite a Berliner who discided to move to Frankfurt and vice versa.
I like beeing in Berlin but I think the overall standard of living is better in Frankfurt: waiting time in the citizen centre, winter services, green space per capita, diversified urban hinterland (flat country to the south, vineyards alongside the river Main and in the Rhine valley, grassland with fruit trees and forested hills)... and great connections by train, plain and car to a lot of places in central Europe
Best host in Germany! To sum it up: If u want to see poverty, come to Berlin. If u want to feel poverty, go to Frankfurt!
You are too kind! 😄😊 I like your summary!😂🤣😂 Why didn't we mention it in the video!
@@Waleochronicles bc. all not all great ideas start in Berlin, but all great ideas die here. :D
Loved the video! Because of the professional field I'm in, I have been hesitating between Frankfurt and Berlin, this video was a great help! Thank you
A highly skilled person can get a job everywhere in Germany. Especially in Germany there are a ton of world leading companies out in the countryside and small cities.
As a German I never would hire somebody who does not speak any German (in Germany). If you already show me you are not willing to adopt to the challenges of the place you plan to stay, why should I assume you will do good results in the challenges of the job? I had several interviews with people from abroad that had a very patchy German at best. These I did hire because they showed the willingness to adapt to new challenges. And we did part of the interview in German, of course, before we switched over with details a non native speaker would have trouble to understand.
Just imagine you wanted to work in New York or Washington and only talked English. Bad chance to get hired I would assume.
@Alfonso Di Grezia I do not work with those, you are right about that. But their attitude makes sense to me. If I am a company working with German customers, it seems a good idea to hire people that are able to communicate with my customers. That was the reason we send people to Arab that some that language (as well as German). Would you act differently?
@Alfonso Di Grezia Reread my post.
This video was super helpful, I love your discussion and how you just get on with it and ask the questions we all want to know. Thank you from Scotland!
Glad it was helpful! and Thanks for watching.
This video has EVERYTHING I'm curious about. I'm a finance professional working in consulting (in Asia) during the day and a DJ at night (quite an eccentric combination I know lol). Seems like Frankfurt could be a fit for both then :) At this point I'm already done with consulting and am looking to branch off to other (chiller) finance fields available in EU. I am also formally learning German with Goethe, so I'd be able to get more access. Thanks Waleo
Thank you for posting, very useful to get the opinion from locals :)
I'm glad you found the video useful. Thanks for leaving a comment 😊
He admitted that he left Frankfurt 15 years ago so what does he really know about whats up in Frankfurt. Bankers are a minority, very important but they go home at night, mostly to the rich suburbs. Frankfurt is considered a village with a small center and a huge perifery.
The biggest difference between Frankfurt and Berlin is that Berlin is incredibly spread out, so it takes a lot of time to get around. Frankfurt is compact. Friends who left Frankfurt said that in Berlin you can go out and almost never meet the same people but in Frankfurt the scenes are more distinct, meaning you are likely to run into like minded or the same people more regularly.
Frankfurt has lots of money in diverse fields but the economy is based on employees. Employees have a certain mentality. Berlin doesn't have money, it has the children of people who made money in Frankfurt, Munich, or Essen, who can hang out in cafes and go to art openings but there are few buyers at those art openings so it has a subculture of scarcity, even though Berlin feels more international. Lots of Berliners (wahlBerliner) hop on the train regularly to pop down to Frankfurt, Hamburg, etc to earn some money, especially in the creative fields. If you want to saddle Frankfurt with it being a Banker city, well, Berlin is a government city with tons of beaurocrats. Small minded. Prussian. Plus you have the residue of communist thinking in Berlin, which is demoralizing. Plus the ultra right just next door, the AfD being mostly an Eastern Germany stronghold.
Frankfurt is firmly in the West with Western values , a Rhine line of ancient prosperity, proximity to France or Belgium while Berlin is closer to Lviv than to Paris.
Until the wall came down Berlin was an alternative place while Frankfurt identified more with the Yuppies, even though Frankfurt is a super open University town with major diversity. If you lived in Berlin before the wall came down you could avoid military service so Berlin attracted aussteiger.
Another difference is that you can be in the countryside or in the woods even within Frankfurt city limits! You can be in the countryside within 15-20 minutes, in the hills, valleys, riverside, Frankfurt is surrounded with nature.
Frankfurt is surrounded by small cities with major cultural offerings, such as Mainz, Wiesbade, Darmstadt, Aschaffenburg, etc. and major financial suburbs in the Taunus and northern Bavaria. Kronberg, Bad Homburg, Friedrichsdorf, Koenigstein, etc (Wiesbaden) are incredibly rich . But if you grew up there and wanted a different life or identity, Berlin is the place to go to start anew or reinvent oneself.
Thanks for this infor 😊
Thanks for this very useful
Glad it was helpful!
Public transportation in Frankfurt and Berlin? Frankfurt has an airport.
It‘s highly subjective I would say whether one would prefer to live in Frankfurt or Berlin. The guest seems to have a much higher preference for Berlin and it‘s pretty apparent from his comments. The main difference is the size, I would say. Berlin is just huge. Both cities are international and have good cultural offerings. Both places are historical, but Frankfurt’s history is older dating back to the Romans. Frankfurt‘s location is more ideal to travelling to other places in Europe and Germany and has a busier airport. Berlin might be more younger-people oriented and have more events and a more vibrant nightlife. So both places have pros and cons. (Although Frankfurt had been voted a couple of times as one of the most livable cities in the world…. if you have the money to pay the rent as it‘s one of the most expensive cities in Germany, too.)
If you want to “see Poor” then go to Berlin and if you want to “Feel Poor” welcome to Frankfurt!
😂 I like this summary
Cracks me up.. every time 😂
You look so beautiful Wale. Love your dress.
Thank you you so much. Making me blush 😄😊 Thanks for watching 😁
Great video and advise Greetings from Ireland .. . I lived in Germany ( Frankfurt) in the late 80s and early 90s. five years. I loved it. I was young then in my 20s. happiest and free ist times of my life. I worked in the hotel industry as a waiter in my 20s .. and happy
now im 60 . divorced and extremely unhappy. watching your videos and other you tube vloggers has made me realise where I actually belong .... now I have advantages and disadvantages. my advantages are I can speak German .. well enough to get by and I know the culture. and lifestyle and I am in the EU . . my disadvantages are , im 60 haha and I do not have a degree. I work here in a dead end job.. security .. before that I worked in the hotel industry .
so yes at 60 with no life.. I am not saying that life will be greener in Germany but I do know that perhaps I can live a better life style in Germany even if its just for my mental health.. anyway I bet you never expected an older person to be sending you messages lol.
Thanks for this amazing discussion love from Indian 🙏🏻🎉
Living in Frankfurt for a while now. I feel the guy who speaks talks quite negative about the City of Frankfurt. Sure Public transport might be not as cheap then Berlin but now with a Deutschland Ticket its 50 euros. Frankfurt also has the best connected train & airport in Germany. Housing now is also almost on the same level from what I've heard and seen.
Since Frankfurt is so compact you can get around super well with foot or by bike. You can also easily access hiking paths and similar things If you like that. U-bahn to hohemark oberursel and hiking in Taunus is one thing. If you like to drive a car you can do so and get around quite easily. In some areas of the city its true its not super well connected. But then a bike could be an option.
Its also not just about banking here, so many different fields that also support. Manufacturing, oil and gas industry companies is also in the surrounding area. In the surrounding area there are al ot of entry level jobs. Working at the Airport is one of them or maybe Opel.
Frankfurt people are very open I would say coming as an expad to the city. The guy said 50% almost own a foreign passport. That says it all, people come here to live and work and you get to know people quite easily because many people come to the city for the same reason as you do.
Frankfurt also have a lot of different sub-cultures and areas of the city that are more alternative than others Nordend/Bornheim for an example, some are more for the rich people working in bank maybe (west-end). There is also the same culture that exists in Berlin with Späti in Frankfurt its called Wasserhäuschen or Kiosks. Check out Yok Yok City Kiosk.
Hallo! Nice video, I'm a Portuguese Economics student. I'm learning German (though I'm still at a begginer level) so that I can migrate to Frankfurt (am Main) and get an entry level job in economics/finance. Do you think it's reasonably possible for someone like me to get my first job in Frankfurt ? Also do you think knowing some german (even if I'm not entirely fluent) will significantly increase my chances of getting hired ?
Thanks !
I think that knowing a bit of German will help you with getting a job but you probably won't need to use it that often as everyone there will want to practice their Portuguese on you it's the same with english
@@gypsyslayer4224 Oh wow I had no idea people were interested in Portuguese! I'll still keep on improving my German but thanks for the input !
Try the IT sector.
Diogo: depends on your job. In Frankfurt as well in Berlin ppl with a good education should not have huge problems to find a job - and also a higher paid one with English only ... in certain industries there was (worldwide) a bit of a fire wave for some jobs (e.g. account manager) but other jobs are highly wanted - which is why many companies explicitely seek international or why Germany tried to make the country more attractive to better qualified internationals ...
As one from Berlin I have to say that for many reasons Berlin has of course advantages, not just compared to Frankfurt. To most cities in the world. But Frankfurt is by far better than many stereotypes imply. Many ppl have resentments against banks etc. but the reality is that throughout history cities with banks, fairs, a business and trade mentality are usually the most liberal and open ones with an inherent cultural impact - similar to the more civil driven cities in North Italy (like Venice, Florence, Geneva ...) or the Hanseatic cities (also cities like Antwerp, Gent) back then. The more one knows about history and recognizes certain timeless structures the more one appreciates such cultures and cities. And Frankfurt has a quite interesting history already as a hub in medivial times. Now, many ppl hearing something about history notice that but dont value that. But the more you get into history and analyse things (which btw. makes each traveling much more interesting than just superficial things - it is a whole difference if u know more about a place than not. If you know more about nature or geology then a simple landscape becomes more interesting, already little things. Same with other places/cities). And some aspects are in such cities like Frankfurt more open/liberal than in cities like Berlin (which is why there are less problems to create skyscrapers in FFM or instance) Berlin is quite liberal but is also a hotspot for more anti-liberal ideologies which have a limiting effects on some things - which more pragmatic cities not have.
in difference to the stereotype, Berlin also has also a lot of high paid jobs. They are just less in focus (and many things changed over the years while some stereotypes have not). Berlin is not just one of the biggest Startup hubs in the world (and lets not forget that also Ebay, Microsoft, Amazon, Github, AirBnB etc. are all present here with headquarters or significant offices), it has for instance also the largest and most modern science and technology park in Germany and one of the biggest in Europe. Berlin has the biggest media industry in Europe. Berlin has one of the biggest Health Care Industry Clusters in the world. Berlin is one of the leading BioTech spots in Europe and so on. And keep in mind that Berlin has as the capital of one of the biggest economic powers in the world of course a huge government infrastructure. This does not just mean a lot of politicians, NGOs, associations and stuff but a lot of (also international) lawyers, consultants, think tanks ... Berlin is the biggest fashion city in Germany. It has the biggest music industry in Germany and one of the biggest in Europe (maybe its already the biggest one). Berlin has the biggest Marketing Industry (also Online Marketing) in Germany and one of the biggest in Europe. And lets not forget that there is also some conventional industry like BMW, Siemens, the new Tesla (nearby), Chemical Industry etc. ... its not just clubs, bars, events and stuff. And last but not least: I also noticed that most ppl are not aware about the difference between statistical more high paid jobs and the concrete situation. For instance: many companies do NOT pay more in Munich or Frankfurt etc. (its rather independent for certain jobs) This means if you get such a good job then you have in Berlin in relation a higher income, because you pay less for other things ...
Question: does a bike suffice to get around in Frankfurt (or Berlin)?
Frankfurt, definitely if you live close to the center. What you save on the car will then be spent on rent, I guess!
Frankfurt has one of the biggest immigrant precentage in germany, i would deff say that FFM is more diverse than Berlin. Frankfurt is very big but all the surrounding areas are independet cities on there own its like if Kreuzberg would be a own city. I do agree that Frankfurters behave like NewYorkers but its not because we have "big towers or money" its because we have to be in some places XD FFM is a very hustler City.
FFM is not more diverse than Berlin. first of all: West Berlin had a much higher migration percentage than other German cities. After the unification the Eastern part (much lower percentage) lowered the percentage. But already back then West Berlin had a bigger population than the second populated city Hamburg, which means: just focusing on percentage is nonsense. It is quite a difference if Berlin has for instance 10% more migration (= ca. 380000 ppl) than Frankfurt (ca. 79000). And Berlin grows much faster year by year and the pure 'masses' of ppl create much more diversity. If a village with 100 ppl had 100% migration then the result is 200 ppl and they could never create that much diversity than a huge city with just 5% migration but 380000 ppl more. Berlin grows much faster than any other city in Germany. In 2022 it got 75000 ppl more. Thats more than Frankfurt AND Munich AND Hamburg together. Thats even more than for instance HH got over the last 5 years in summary. And this year by year! (FFM shrunk actually 2021). And since Berlin has also much more polycentric structures and another mentality there is in general much more going on. Btw, I like the mentality in FFM and dont share the negative stereotypes about FFM - on the contrary, it did very well and has a great history, already at medivial times! And as old business and cultural hub it had always a kind of international flair. But it just makes no sense to try to sell that it has more diversity than Berlin. Thats just not the reality which also everyone would feel and see if experiencing the cities deeper. Apart from that I am anyway not one who believes just in diversiy due to different migration backgrounds and ethnics. Thats in the end a 20. century mentality. It is more bout the number of concrete options/methods. Thats why German cities in general were already over 100 years ago were much more diverse in real culture than most other places in the world - like all of the few most developed countries (the west). if 50 ethnics live quite the same tribal life thats or instance no diversity ...
I am Planing on moving there from Australia, leaving a highly payed job, however so far I’ve had no luck getting a job or even an interview.
I applied 100s of jobs all across Germany no one got back to me, might have to try McDonald’s lol
Right now, it's generally difficult even for people living here to land a job, thanks to the current Pandemic. However, it's generally easier to get a job here when you are already here (under normal circumstances). I wish you good luck with your search.
Leaving payed job in austrialia to move in germany and work mcdonald hahaha you are crazy
Go for a visit and talk to some employers, go to some meetups and see if u like it first.
@@lizapervataj2610 Obelix would say: "Die spinnen, die Australier".
leaving Australia for a German culture? I would think twice ...
I am moving to Frankfurt soon
Yay! Congratulations! Let's know how it goes once you are settled in.
Total bullshit comparison. Comparing Berlin today to a faded memory of Frankfurt 15 years ago
Frankfurt 🙌🏼
Nice video, not like some boring video blogs with annoying EDM BGMs. However, I want to disagree on one point. Everyone must settle down at some point, so I think Frankfurt is better. It is a huge city. With the help of the Internet, you will find your own crowd no matter what. It's not like people had to rely on newspapers in the past. If you move to Frankfurt after 10 years of partying in Berlin, you will lose all the friends and relationships you have built over the past 10 years in Berlin. Of course, you can contact them virtually, but now everyone is so focused on themselves. Almost no one maintains an intimate relationship with friends in another metropolitan area.
I'm definetly gonna spend a few months in Frankfurt next year to see for myself. Then I can make a video with my own assessment. Its sounding more and more like a city I would really like to live
i been Berlin nice city
The thing is that all the industry, banks and international companies are in the Frankfurt area. There is not a doubt about that. 2 of the biggest industrial parks in Europe are near Frankfurt (30k workers each - with a lot of koreans, indians, americans, british you name it). And of course all these workers bring their culture, food and what not. Berlin has none of that. And the few companies existing in Berlin will pay less than in Frankfurt even though your task would be exactly the same. It´s more the type of cultural and artsy city with a lot of international students that come and go. Musicians like the city as well. All that is lacking in Frankfurt. No Art, no fun no culture (of course there is some, but not to the degree like in Berlin), but lots of work opportunity..... Also Frankfurt has the climate advantage. It is warmer as it is located more south and its location is more centric. So it depends on your needs really. Berlin is cool for creative, young people... Frankfurt is more boring, it has more like an working immigrant, bankers, lot of ex Junkies, industrial touch to it....
hello i am from turkmenistan germany very beatiful country
Hi, Thank you so much for making these videos. It’s a great help for people like us who wants to go to Germany.
I have a bit weird question.
Me and my wife lives in New Zealand. I am a Indian citizen and she is from Czech Republic. We both wants to move to Berlin and we don’t know what kind of visa it would be or how to register a marriage in Germany from here or do I need to qualify the A1 German language Exam?????
Please please please if anyone can help it would be really really appreciated.
Regards
Sachin & Michaela
In any case: If you want to live in a country you ought to learn the language and A1 is just the start. Do not be confused by all these UA-camrs, just about all of them are fluent in German, not necessarily perfect but that is true for some Germans as well (•‿•)
@@wora1111 Thanks 😊
which place speak more english, which one easy to get part time job without german language??!!
I am interested in knowing this too
You can find jobs in both cities, and most shops and services are bilingual. About 60-70% of people are happy to converse in English, especially the under 50s.
Part time jobs depend on the area of expertise, given that Germany has had a big influx of medium skilled people over the last decade. You might be in a long queue.
@@maxking3 Agreed. And most of those speak rather good German these days.
The other Frankfurt you would just call "Frankfurt (Oder)". If I understand him correctly, Frankfurt am Main is the City for many "Stock im Arsch" Bänker. Frankfurt am Main is beside the financial part the most important Internet hub for Europe and without it we couldn't even watch your UA-cam videos I guess.
The first time I heard about Frankfurt Oder was at when I saw a train at the Hauptbahnhof with destination Frankfurt Oder you can imagine my confusion. I always thought Frankfurt am Main was the only Frankfurt in Germany. And I read Frankfurt Oder as " Frankfurt. Oder?" 😄😄😄
Honestly all my friends who moved to Germany hate the frozen culture of people there. The way the guest stays frozen too and doesn't share eye contact is so uninviting to me to move there..I think this is a big thing to think over before deciding to relocate. I recommend people to go there for some short term experience (not as tourist) and then see how they feel about it. It's one of the most racist countries in Europe, after France and Greece
Lol Frankfurt is so much more diverse than the bankers you cite in every sentence. This is superficial & chiche
Can‘t agree more. On the other hand, Frankfurt is already expensive & crowded enough, so I am happy for every video overhyping Berlin!
Frankfurt is sooo much better!
Comparing these two cities is not so easy, i mean both cities lost a lot with the nazi regime and world war 2,
but Berlin had also to deal with the splitting, the process of separation costs that city a lot of industry, especially when Westberlin lost the surrounding areas, that city had not much space, so lot of companies decided to leave the city and went over to Frankfurt am Main, Munich or Cologne with the bigger airports and without East Germany and especially Russia surrounding them,
and East Berlin became a whole different system, a communistic system. And with the wall, everything got more worst.
Everything needed to be rebuilt and that process in Berlin is still going on.
Not everything is perfect of course,there is a lot to improve and still to learn. But after getting totaly destroyed, cutted into pieces and being the enemy of the world we are now on a good way.
Until the 1920s Berlin was the city in world to be, everything was possible, it was very international, the Kurfürstendamm was a melting point for everyone.
The opening hours for shopping are very liberal for Germany, usually you can make party 24/7 in that city.
And the city is very diverse,
founded by Slavic immigrants it's a lot of different cities combined to one big one.
The space is amazing with a lot of green nature part's, lake's, river's and forests.
It was definitely very interesting to listen to you guys.
Thanks for this very well outlined analysis and sharing so much background information concerning the two cities. 😊 We are still Team Berlin for now 😄
I disagree. Frankfurt is so, so much more than bankers and money!
I agree, it's also a lot of junkies smoking crack on the side of the road and drunk homeless people buying vodka at the supermarket at 7 AM 👍🏻
Frankfurt
Frankfurt is about money💶
#yuhhurdme
Berlin spends the money that is earned in Frankfurt :-)
How about germans people comparing both cities, are people in Frankfurt more friendly than Berlin? not asking just in regards making friends, but the native german behaviour
Berlin is more racist imo lets put it straight up on the other hand I found frankfurt better behaved and sophisticated
@@niharika6967 Stereotype is that Berliners tend to be rather rude, while Frankfurt tends to be rather ignorant.
Again. Just stereotypes and it is definitely depending on your desire to make contact.
In Frankfurt there are literally 100s of expat clubs, so talking to a fellow Korean, Brasilian or Canadian who came a few years earlier can make a big difference.
its bullshit...Frankfurt is not just about money....Frankfurt has one of the most caring social scenes of Germany...stereotypes schmereotypes....
Frankfurt is so boring.
why?