Expanding on this, I wish more communities would use some kind of connected fire alarm system that tells Dispatch / Emergency Responders exactly where the fire alarm originated, down to the pull station / item that triggered the alarm. I think we have some kind of technology that allows for this now - perhaps the same sort of interconnected system we're using to enjoy this video? (Yes, I'm aware it's not _that simple_ but we're 30 ish years into modern day digital communications systems, so one would think we'd have implemented a more cohesive emergency response system by now...)
0:19 They also alert people outside that are oblivious to the emergency to not enter the building, like if someone is just arriving at their office and they don’t know that there is a fire, that alarm will be what tells them not to enter the office
Saw these when I lived in Cape Cod ~1994 when I was 7, and thankfully my intuition back then was correct without having to ask, but thanks for confirming and giving some additional detail!
In germany we have Key deposit safes on the outside wall of public buildings with an Electronic door that covers the lock inside behind which the keys sit It is code in 99% of germany to have a yellow flashing light located above that deposit box to also indicate that the fire alarm has triggered for this specific area of the building complex as there are sometimes multiple fire alarm systems or zones in big areas If you are curious google for "Feuerwehr Schlüsseldepot", we also sometimes have a small key Switch behind a weather cover next to the safe to trigger the fire alarm system from the outside if it has not activated yet and we need to access the building Such boxes are usually hooked up to a Tamper-alarm anyways so its the safest way to get access to the building The Tier 3 boxes even check for presence of all keys before allowing you to lock the box again, ensuring that if we enter an unmanned site and leave it will be secured and does not need anyone to come and check
In the US the solution is a bit lower tech with simple lockboxes, usually the brand name Knox. Suffer from physical key escrow; there's a DEFCON presentation on how much of a faulty solution these really are. In most of the rest of the US the only outdoor fire notification required is one that only activates when the sprinkler system is flowing, can be anything really but most commonly a bell, either water motor or electric.
@@hyperfluff_folf think that's a state thing, besides, they also have red strobes attached to the building. The key deposit boxes are flashing yellowish or amber, but the indicators on the buildings are red. Regards from RLP
I'm from Ma. In the new code, some building's may have to sound an alarm from outside the building as well. These are most common in apartment buildings and shopping mall's. Some restaurant's have them, but are usually unnoticeable. Our fire department's have done a great job with upgrading the system's. Now they alert directly to the fire department with a building address and number. Strobe's have been becoming obsolete in many place's due to this new system and increased training. This may differ depending on the size of the city you live in.
I saw one of these activating at what seemed to be a roofed outside mall in Stuttgart Germany, I only remember seeing it after the fire engines came up, and firefighters went in. The strobe looked like the big strobe light you mentioned, but instead, it was twice as long. There was another one inside the mall, but no one appeared to be rushing out, nor was there any crowd of people at the exits. It was a mall/promenade, I could see to the other side, and people were just walking through as if nothing was happening. This was back in 2017, btw.
New Zealand, where I live, has a similar idea. We usually have strobes outside, both European and American, for the use of locating the main panel of a fire alarm system. Our strobes can have either sounders or ne strobe only, and can be blue, red, or orange. They are usually located up very high, like the ones you saw. Some models are also very cheap chinese traditional strobes, which use 12V, and are more common.
Apparently it’s the same in Canada as well. The difference is that the strobes are blue and are usually positioned to also mark where the remote annunciator is. Nics systems and electric explained this in a couple of his vids.
I've also seen photos of in some multi complex areas (say a business park or warehouse complex) they will have a blue strobe on the outside of the building, usually at the FACP/annunciator/knox box point to indicate which is the building under the alarm condition.
I have seen at least one of those locally here in PA, though interesting the one I saw is mounted to a grey box with a grey Edwards adaptahorn above the beacon strobe.
I used to have a 120V screw-in Microstrobe with a clear lens. They're a bit uncommon as surplus, probably because they are most commonly used in film production.
I live in Western Mass. and this is distinctly less common here. Quite a few building have systems with no external notification, and many that do just use regular notification appliances. Even many strip malls lack these kind of strobe lights, with Pittsfield's Allendale Shopping Center and North Adams' Steeple City/Parkade Plaza being examples.
Canada has the same rules, except usually only when multiple buildings share the same monitoring system to show which building is actually causing the alarm and ours are typically blue and not red but in some places this differs but indicates the same thing. They are also typically outside where the alarm panel is or where a fire sprinkler/fire monitoring room is accessible to the outside.
Some my school has these lights red means lockdown green means clear blue mean medical/bomb warning white means whether warning and yellow means lockout
They need these for medical emergencies (and yes, police emergencies) too, as someone who has volunteered on ambulances, it's frequently hard to find the address of a building someone is having a medical emergency in
The difference with those, Medical emergencies rarely would go through a building alarm, Police emergencies would generally only be an alarm system after hours, or in banks and jewelry stores, where silent alarms often are. Also, in a Police emergency situation, may not want to alert accomplices waiting outside, such as a getaway driver for a bank robbery...
In my area (northeast US) a lot of buildings have these red-lensed cage lamps in the exact same spots, or sometimes on the side of the building, but always facing the road. And they're definitely normal lamps, not strobes. I've seen them on a couple times. Constantly on. No flashing. I wonder if they're for the same purpose...
This is quite interesting. When i took Karate years ago they had a horn strobe outside. I remember experiencing the fire alarm going off and they had to evacuate the whole building. There was a horn strobe outside which was rather quiet considering it was on a lower volume.
Very informative video! Sometimes I see clear lensed fire alarms outside, but this is a better way to have less noise however I don't know how bright they are
I think they’re legally required to be as bright as possible due to the possibility of them going off during the daytime. At night, these are SUPER obvious, so no issues there-but during the day, it’s not as easy. Might want to Google it; I don’t have time to at the moment.
Can you please do another video of Ranking more Fire alarm VE messages? Another question I have is when you do a system test do you live in a house as to not piss off your neighbors Can you please reply
In Australia it is a standard that every building with a fip must have a red strobe or red led any where from 2 meters to 5 meters high in a visabil spot, thoght i would just share👍
In the US, we use red Fire Alarm beacons for Fire Alarm. but in Canada, they use blue strobes for Announciator locations and to tell that the alarm is going off BTW: My school has a horn/strobe outside in the front of the school facing the parking lot and the street to tell everyone the alarm is going off but the strobe doesn't work
They're in Rhode Island too. My apartment complex has them on all the buildings, as do all the 2-5 unit multifamily buildings nearby. They're not always red though. I've seen red, white, and blue depending on the area (and probably also on the age of the building/system), but they all serve the same purpose and are quite effective.
I'm surprised you didn't get any examples of the blue strobes that are usually right next to the red ones. I believe those are for burglar alarms. I've seen quite a few of red/blue sets on buildings in western Mass.
Pretty sure the running people on fire is a really good indication of which store has an issue. As long as they're not going in circles. Hopefully they could get organized enough to run out in a straight line. The light is a nice touch. A win for those pragmatic either way.
Massachusetts electrician here, I work for a retail company and I find myself traveling state to state. Just out in Illinois putting one on that space. Interesting thing when I was in New Hampshire at the beginning of the year at hey wanted a red beacon for the alarm and also wanted a green beacon to indicate a water flow!! Never did an exterior green beacon before, what are your thoughts? Is there something new in NFPA.
Where I live, exterior strobes are not required for every building with a firealarmsystem, but only for those, that have an emergency key box for the fire department to gain access. Thoose strobes are then to be mounted above the box, so the firedepartment can quickly locate it. Usually every building that has devices that can activate the system automatically, such as smoke or heat detectors, also has an emergency key box. (I specified that because in the region I live in, there are a lot of older and smaller buildings, that got retrofitted with firealarmsystems, that are hooked up to callpoints only and therefore don´t have emergency key boxes. Because if there is noone there that could open the door there would be no way for the system to be activated anyways.) There are multiple types of those key boxes, but the most common one works in the way, that they have two doors of wich the first gets unlocked by the firealarmsystem and the second one can be unlocked with a key, that´s stored at the firestation, responsible for the building.
I'm guessing these became code before GPS guided maps (Google Maps or CAD systems for first responders) became available, that way the first responders could see at a glance where they were going instead of hunting for the address, but they still make it faster even today IMHO.
I live in Massachusetts and I'm not used to seeing these red strobes. I've seen plenty of white ones, though. I'd have to guess it must depend where in the state you are.
For very expensive and huge venues or public areas, It’s probably for sure supposed to be set up this way to notify the fire department, but I think it’s pretty cool. When I shop at Costco, I would usually see three big red, white, and blue ceiling strobes inside the building. One is for fire, one is for emergency, and the other one (blue one) I think is for theft or lockdown.
one of them can also be for refrigeration. If there is a problem with one of the cooler zones it would tell someone in the store to go take a look at whatever console they check that on.
In Minnesota, the closest thing we have to this are those Wheelock things with the box behind it. They're everywhere, but you never actually see them in anyone's collection. And of course there is plenty of sprinkler bells, but they are everywhere in the US
@@FireAlarmDude5967 they’re called like “FARR-LARM” or something weird. They [if intact] have a box that usually says “when alarm sounds call 911” we also have Potter versions too
@@FireAlarmDude5967 are you a Fire Alarm Engineer, or tech? If so Industrial Explosive Protection is in Marlborough, Kidde-Fenwal is in Ashland, Protectowire is in Plymouth, and FCI/Honeywell is in Northford, CT. I have been a FA/Special Hazards tech for 25 years. I had no idea people collected these devices. The old things I have just tossed in the trash after demo over the years... I'll start saving them now and throw them on Ebay lol!
@@jeremyzimmerli4887 I am not. I’m a high school student. I would love to intern for one of those companies though; one of the staff members at my school works for one of those companies.
Here in Indiana, they have no such requirement for these strobes. Also, I live in one of the largest and most densely populated cities in the state, and there are no city regulations requiring them either. I think our fire codes are current to 1935. :P
My area seems to do a similar thing but they use regular notification appliances that are placed near the front door of almost every building that has a FA system. For some reason, every building in my area that has a Fire Sprinkler system also has a 120V AC sprinkler alarm on the front. Even brand new buildings with monitored FA systems. For example, the red strobe that you saw outside of Lowes would be a sprinkler alarm or regular notification appliance in my area.
@@PaulFisher The MBTA Green Line is a subway line here in Boston. Because it is the oldest electric subway in North America, it has really sharp turns that make a loud and distinct squeaking noise that can be heard above some stations, especially in the Boston common area. This is a video of a train making the turn: ua-cam.com/video/YfPWY_1U53w/v-deo.htmlsi=KoARBFy_LxfZP8YF
Standards vary from place to place, and so does enforcement. When I worked in Florida we had 1 strobe alarm for the entire warehouse, and during the first fire drill in 5 years time it didn't work. It never got fixed, and our policy was changed to "if you sense smoke, leave the building." It was terrible. lmao
FireAlarmDude5967 i thought of a crazy thought. if you test it by the button the Buzzer and the button will work but if you don't test it by the Sensor, you never know if the sensor will work or not if you are testing the Smoke alarm by the button. Everyone Make sure You test your Smoke alarm by the Sensor by Using can of smoke.
Question a local high school by my house they have simplex horn strobes inside and out side spectralert advances I thought simplex is their own brand I know wheelock can be used on simplex system I thought spectralert couldn't
It could also be that that high school may have had 4903 or QuickAlert or Older Fixed Candela TrueAlert Horn Strobes and had either a SpectrAlert Classic or Advance Installed as an outdoor device since Simplex didn't come up with weatherproof alarms at that time.
funny that a video needed to be made to tell people what they are for. i thought it would be pretty easy to figure out myself. oh well, got my click anyway. well done.👍
Not really. A red strobe on a building could indicate a lot of different things. Maybe it’s a sprinkler system indicator? Maybe it indicates a fire suppression system has activated? Perhaps it indicates the location of an annunciator or sprinkler room? Maybe it indicates that a smoke purge system has activated. Maybe it indicates that the fire alarm system is in trouble. There’s a lot of reasonable possibilities for these strobes
@@FireAlarmDude5967 well an annunciator strobe is usually blue ,but what I meant as in common sense is that the red strobe is most likely to notify fire dept. wich building it is.
I've seen outdoor lighting that looks like a normal lamp post until a system is activated and a few of the lamps go red
This is a rather unique and very interesting setup when it comes to notifying the fire department. Wish more municipalities would do this.
I didn’t think it was so exclusive for ma
We don't normally see these in NC. We do have loud bells that get installed near the FDC connection.
Great idea, but who is paying for the retro fit ?
Expanding on this, I wish more communities would use some kind of connected fire alarm system that tells Dispatch / Emergency Responders exactly where the fire alarm originated, down to the pull station / item that triggered the alarm. I think we have some kind of technology that allows for this now - perhaps the same sort of interconnected system we're using to enjoy this video? (Yes, I'm aware it's not _that simple_ but we're 30 ish years into modern day digital communications systems, so one would think we'd have implemented a more cohesive emergency response system by now...)
@@KiRaShiKReaTiVe big buildings often have a map with indicators to direct firefighters to the correct area of the building.
In Germany we use these strobes to show the Firefighters, where they can find the fire alarm systems Main Panel, the floor plans and the Key safe.
Canada has the same rules
Same here in Australia.
Same here in Denmark
0:19 They also alert people outside that are oblivious to the emergency to not enter the building, like if someone is just arriving at their office and they don’t know that there is a fire, that alarm will be what tells them not to enter the office
To be honest that should be very apparent as soon as they open the front door and the amount of people leaving the building.
@@benargeenot if everyone already left
Saw these when I lived in Cape Cod ~1994 when I was 7, and thankfully my intuition back then was correct without having to ask, but thanks for confirming and giving some additional detail!
In germany we have Key deposit safes on the outside wall of public buildings with an Electronic door that covers the lock inside behind which the keys sit
It is code in 99% of germany to have a yellow flashing light located above that deposit box to also indicate that the fire alarm has triggered for this specific area of the building complex as there are sometimes multiple fire alarm systems or zones in big areas
If you are curious google for "Feuerwehr Schlüsseldepot", we also sometimes have a small key Switch behind a weather cover next to the safe to trigger the fire alarm system from the outside if it has not activated yet and we need to access the building
Such boxes are usually hooked up to a Tamper-alarm anyways so its the safest way to get access to the building
The Tier 3 boxes even check for presence of all keys before allowing you to lock the box again, ensuring that if we enter an unmanned site and leave it will be secured and does not need anyone to come and check
Actually most strobes i have seen are red. At least in the North. The only City where i have seen yellow strobes is Fulda.
In the US the solution is a bit lower tech with simple lockboxes, usually the brand name Knox. Suffer from physical key escrow; there's a DEFCON presentation on how much of a faulty solution these really are. In most of the rest of the US the only outdoor fire notification required is one that only activates when the sprinkler system is flowing, can be anything really but most commonly a bell, either water motor or electric.
@@icedragon6761 the region i am in (sachsony anhalt between magdeburg and dessau) is all yellow :)
@@hyperfluff_folf think that's a state thing, besides, they also have red strobes attached to the building. The key deposit boxes are flashing yellowish or amber, but the indicators on the buildings are red. Regards from RLP
@@EifelBlaulichtTV yup, its not fully standardized yet :)
Very interesting. This seems to be similar to Canada’s method of identifying a building alarm.
I'm from Ma. In the new code, some building's may have to sound an alarm from outside the building as well. These are most common in apartment buildings and shopping mall's. Some restaurant's have them, but are usually unnoticeable. Our fire department's have done a great job with upgrading the system's. Now they alert directly to the fire department with a building address and number. Strobe's have been becoming obsolete in many place's due to this new system and increased training. This may differ depending on the size of the city you live in.
Awesome video, very well explained.
Went to Boston Massachusetts and had no idea what these were. Thanks for sharing!
I saw one of these activating at what seemed to be a roofed outside mall in Stuttgart Germany, I only remember seeing it after the fire engines came up, and firefighters went in. The strobe looked like the big strobe light you mentioned, but instead, it was twice as long. There was another one inside the mall, but no one appeared to be rushing out, nor was there any crowd of people at the exits. It was a mall/promenade, I could see to the other side, and people were just walking through as if nothing was happening. This was back in 2017, btw.
New Zealand, where I live, has a similar idea. We usually have strobes outside, both European and American, for the use of locating the main panel of a fire alarm system. Our strobes can have either sounders or ne strobe only, and can be blue, red, or orange. They are usually located up very high, like the ones you saw. Some models are also very cheap chinese traditional strobes, which use 12V, and are more common.
That's pretty neat! I think Canada does this too if I'm not mistaken. Wish Texas would adopt this tbh
There's another practical function, a deaf person can see it's not safe to enter the building.
Apparently it’s the same in Canada as well. The difference is that the strobes are blue and are usually positioned to also mark where the remote annunciator is. Nics systems and electric explained this in a couple of his vids.
I was just about to comment about Nic's video
Interesting video. Thanks for sharing. I wonder if more and more buildings have to add these strobes as code.
Good explanation video. Malls have indicators for each stores too. My mall has Cornwell call lights.
I was just in Boston last week and I noticed all of these strobes as well
I've also seen photos of in some multi complex areas (say a business park or warehouse complex) they will have a blue strobe on the outside of the building, usually at the FACP/annunciator/knox box point to indicate which is the building under the alarm condition.
I have seen at least one of those locally here in PA, though interesting the one I saw is mounted to a grey box with a grey Edwards adaptahorn above the beacon strobe.
I’ve seen some buildings with those red strobe lights here in Connecticut, but most buildings have outdoor rated horn/strobes around here.
I used to have a 120V screw-in Microstrobe with a clear lens. They're a bit uncommon as surplus, probably because they are most commonly used in film production.
Very good video Nic made a video about why the strobes outside of building are blue in Canada, these both have the same purpose.
I live in Western Mass. and this is distinctly less common here. Quite a few building have systems with no external notification, and many that do just use regular notification appliances. Even many strip malls lack these kind of strobe lights, with Pittsfield's Allendale Shopping Center and North Adams' Steeple City/Parkade Plaza being examples.
Canada has the same rules, except usually only when multiple buildings share the same monitoring system to show which building is actually causing the alarm and ours are typically blue and not red but in some places this differs but indicates the same thing. They are also typically outside where the alarm panel is or where a fire sprinkler/fire monitoring room is accessible to the outside.
My school has blue strobes on the outside near entrances and they flash blue when our lockdown system is activated
Some my school has these lights red means lockdown green means clear blue mean medical/bomb warning white means whether warning and yellow means lockout
They need these for medical emergencies (and yes, police emergencies) too, as someone who has volunteered on ambulances, it's frequently hard to find the address of a building someone is having a medical emergency in
The difference with those, Medical emergencies rarely would go through a building alarm, Police emergencies would generally only be an alarm system after hours, or in banks and jewelry stores, where silent alarms often are. Also, in a Police emergency situation, may not want to alert accomplices waiting outside, such as a getaway driver for a bank robbery...
In my area (northeast US) a lot of buildings have these red-lensed cage lamps in the exact same spots,
or sometimes on the side of the building, but always facing the road.
And they're definitely normal lamps, not strobes. I've seen them on a couple times. Constantly on. No flashing.
I wonder if they're for the same purpose...
Wow! I just learned something new!
One thing I have noticed about living on the East Coast a lot of banks have arms outside that say vault alarm.
This is quite interesting. When i took Karate years ago they had a horn strobe outside. I remember experiencing the fire alarm going off and they had to evacuate the whole building. There was a horn strobe outside which was rather quiet considering it was on a lower volume.
Very informative video! Sometimes I see clear lensed fire alarms outside, but this is a better way to have less noise however I don't know how bright they are
I think they’re legally required to be as bright as possible due to the possibility of them going off during the daytime. At night, these are SUPER obvious, so no issues there-but during the day, it’s not as easy. Might want to Google it; I don’t have time to at the moment.
@mbcommandnerd they have a lower candela rating but they are indicators so it’s negligible
Can you please do another video of Ranking more Fire alarm VE messages?
Another question I have is when you do a system test do you live in a house as to not piss off your neighbors Can you please reply
In Australia it is a standard that every building with a fip must have a red strobe or red led any where from 2 meters to 5 meters high in a visabil spot, thoght i would just share👍
Hotels have these. When the alarm is pulled, these go off and flash to let everyone know not to go inside
In the US, we use red Fire Alarm beacons for Fire Alarm. but in Canada, they use blue strobes for Announciator locations and to tell that the alarm is going off
BTW: My school has a horn/strobe outside in the front of the school facing the parking lot and the street to tell everyone the alarm is going off but the strobe doesn't work
In Australia we have these but most systems also have external bells usualy at the booster if possible and it shows that the sprinkler line is flowing
Called a “flow alarm” in the US.
@@HerpDerpNV Also called "god dammit it's malfunctioning again!" in my building!
Fantastic video. Very informative. Out of curiosity, are you working on or the recipient of a fire safety degree?
I’m a high school student but I would like to pursue engineering
I see lots of those! The group homes of my last schooling placement, had red strobes.
Red strobe on the top, at roof level with a 2901-9833 below, at or roughly the height of an exit door.
This is actually pretty smart and all major cities in the US should have these
I’ve seen these everywhere lol, sometimes I see a red strobe System Sensor SR instead of
This is an interesting topic! As others have said, why don't we see this more?
I see these all over new england honestly, a LOT in new hampshire and connecticut. I feel like its def an east coast thing ngl.
They're in Rhode Island too. My apartment complex has them on all the buildings, as do all the 2-5 unit multifamily buildings nearby. They're not always red though. I've seen red, white, and blue depending on the area (and probably also on the age of the building/system), but they all serve the same purpose and are quite effective.
@@jblyon2 yes theyre a new england thing.
This is so cool, and very smart.
I'm surprised you didn't get any examples of the blue strobes that are usually right next to the red ones. I believe those are for burglar alarms. I've seen quite a few of red/blue sets on buildings in western Mass.
I have honestly never seen one of those setups
Pretty sure the running people on fire is a really good indication of which store has an issue. As long as they're not going in circles. Hopefully they could get organized enough to run out in a straight line. The light is a nice touch. A win for those pragmatic either way.
Very interesting!
They look like break in alarms
Seen some in LA too.
Massachusetts electrician here, I work for a retail company and I find myself traveling state to state. Just out in Illinois putting one on that space. Interesting thing when I was in New Hampshire at the beginning of the year at hey wanted a red beacon for the alarm and also wanted a green beacon to indicate a water flow!! Never did an exterior green beacon before, what are your thoughts? Is there something new in NFPA.
I actually saw another comment about the greens. Apparently in NH green beacons were required for water flow.
my state doesnt use these but always uses outdoor fire alarms in a lot of bulldings
Where I live, exterior strobes are not required for every building with a firealarmsystem, but only for those, that have an emergency key box for the fire department to gain access. Thoose strobes are then to be mounted above the box, so the firedepartment can quickly locate it. Usually every building that has devices that can activate the system automatically, such as smoke or heat detectors, also has an emergency key box. (I specified that because in the region I live in, there are a lot of older and smaller buildings, that got retrofitted with firealarmsystems, that are hooked up to callpoints only and therefore don´t have emergency key boxes. Because if there is noone there that could open the door there would be no way for the system to be activated anyways.) There are multiple types of those key boxes, but the most common one works in the way, that they have two doors of wich the first gets unlocked by the firealarmsystem and the second one can be unlocked with a key, that´s stored at the firestation, responsible for the building.
Are you perhaps from germany?
We have that standard here too xD
I'm guessing these became code before GPS guided maps (Google Maps or CAD systems for first responders) became available, that way the first responders could see at a glance where they were going instead of hunting for the address, but they still make it faster even today IMHO.
There is a similar concept with blue strobes instead of red on the outside of the building in some parts of Canada.
I live in Massachusetts and I'm not used to seeing these red strobes. I've seen plenty of white ones, though. I'd have to guess it must depend where in the state you are.
That’s odd. I’ve never really been anywhere in the state where these weren’t prevalent.
For very expensive and huge venues or public areas, It’s probably for sure supposed to be set up this way to notify the fire department, but I think it’s pretty cool. When I shop at Costco, I would usually see three big red, white, and blue ceiling strobes inside the building. One is for fire, one is for emergency, and the other one (blue one) I think is for theft or lockdown.
one of them can also be for refrigeration. If there is a problem with one of the cooler zones it would tell someone in the store to go take a look at whatever console they check that on.
It’s apart of Massachusetts’ building code.
Good idea. All cities should do this. My workplace has a mechanical bell mounted on an extirior wall but no light.
That's 99 percent for the sprinkler system.
@@RJARRRPCGP You know, I think you're right.
Can't wait for the system test
Is this a code or is this just was the east coast does
At the school I used to go to there was a Grey fire alarm with a blue strobe can someone tell me what. That is
I live in Rhode Island and these are everywhere
Sounds logical to moi, also if was thinking of entering the building y/et saw the light, I sure would noy enter!
In Minnesota, the closest thing we have to this are those Wheelock things with the box behind it. They're everywhere, but you never actually see them in anyone's collection. And of course there is plenty of sprinkler bells, but they are everywhere in the US
What are the wheelock things with the box?
@@FireAlarmDude5967 they’re called like “FARR-LARM” or something weird. They [if intact] have a box that usually says “when alarm sounds call 911” we also have Potter versions too
@wigwagstudios2474 ohh right the sprinkler alarm things yes I see
I don't think any buildings in Ohio have this, I guess it's a code requirement in your area.
it’s kinda like canada with their blue strobe but instead to locate an alarm!
I think I've seen these on one building in the uk
Did you go to Marlborough Massachusetts? I've been the a lot to go the the apex center.
Some of this video was at the RK center in Marlborough near the apex.
@@FireAlarmDude5967 are you a Fire Alarm Engineer, or tech? If so Industrial Explosive Protection is in Marlborough, Kidde-Fenwal is in Ashland, Protectowire is in Plymouth, and FCI/Honeywell is in Northford, CT. I have been a FA/Special Hazards tech for 25 years. I had no idea people collected these devices. The old things I have just tossed in the trash after demo over the years... I'll start saving them now and throw them on Ebay lol!
@@jeremyzimmerli4887 I am not. I’m a high school student. I would love to intern for one of those companies though; one of the staff members at my school works for one of those companies.
Here in Indiana, they have no such requirement for these strobes. Also, I live in one of the largest and most densely populated cities in the state, and there are no city regulations requiring them either. I think our fire codes are current to 1935. :P
Never realized it was a Massachusetts thing, I just assume they're everywhere
I didn't even realize these were a Mass-only thing. I need to get out more, lmao
They may be a little more than just MA
@@FireAlarmDude5967 on my way to Boston Logan International Airport i saw A LOT of those outdoor strobes you mentioned
@@FireAlarmDude5967 and they are in New Hampshire as well
2:13 what is the fire device below the L-Series in this part?
Annunciator
Screwing up the exteriors of old buildings with conduit
Too bad that this is not a universal requirement. However, no one wants regulations.
My area seems to do a similar thing but they use regular notification appliances that are placed near the front door of almost every building that has a FA system.
For some reason, every building in my area that has a Fire Sprinkler system also has a 120V AC sprinkler alarm on the front. Even brand new buildings with monitored FA systems.
For example, the red strobe that you saw outside of Lowes would be a sprinkler alarm or regular notification appliance in my area.
Oh god. No. It's all amongus..
Oh my
There have them in UK on some buildings
My school has one because it serves 1500 students
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I saw that at my karate school
4:07 I can definitely tell that's near the MBTA green line
[shouting] WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU SAY THAT
@@PaulFisher The MBTA Green Line is a subway line here in Boston. Because it is the oldest electric subway in North America, it has really sharp turns that make a loud and distinct squeaking noise that can be heard above some stations, especially in the Boston common area. This is a video of a train making the turn: ua-cam.com/video/YfPWY_1U53w/v-deo.htmlsi=KoARBFy_LxfZP8YF
@@roblox_kidyt5039 yes, I live here, the noise was the joke ;)
@@PaulFisher Oh, ok
They’re British detectors
Lol
If it's so important, then why aren't they in more places?
I’m not sure what you’re implying. Outdoor signaling devices are present in many forms in a lot of different states and countries
Standards vary from place to place, and so does enforcement. When I worked in Florida we had 1 strobe alarm for the entire warehouse, and during the first fire drill in 5 years time it didn't work. It never got fixed, and our policy was changed to "if you sense smoke, leave the building." It was terrible. lmao
FireAlarmDude5967 i thought of a crazy thought. if you test it by the button the Buzzer and the button will work but if you don't test it by the Sensor, you never know if the sensor will work or not if you are testing the Smoke alarm by the button. Everyone Make sure You test your Smoke alarm by the Sensor by Using can of smoke.
Sometimes. In the United States, most photoelectric units do indeed test the detection electronics
Question a local high school by my house they have simplex horn strobes inside and out side spectralert advances I thought simplex is their own brand I know wheelock can be used on simplex system I thought spectralert couldn't
The SpectrAlert could be a replacement device or since there's a waterproof version of the SpectrAlert, that may also be used.
It could also be that that high school may have had 4903 or QuickAlert or Older Fixed Candela TrueAlert Horn Strobes and had either a SpectrAlert Classic or Advance Installed as an outdoor device since Simplex didn't come up with weatherproof alarms at that time.
funny that a video needed to be made to tell people what they are for. i thought it would be pretty easy to figure out myself. oh well, got my click anyway. well done.👍
Im crying
I don’t think this video is that emotional
@@FireAlarmDude5967 my grandma died
sounds fairly common sense
Not really. A red strobe on a building could indicate a lot of different things. Maybe it’s a sprinkler system indicator? Maybe it indicates a fire suppression system has activated? Perhaps it indicates the location of an annunciator or sprinkler room? Maybe it indicates that a smoke purge system has activated. Maybe it indicates that the fire alarm system is in trouble. There’s a lot of reasonable possibilities for these strobes
@@FireAlarmDude5967 well an annunciator strobe is usually blue ,but what I meant as in common sense is that the red strobe is most likely to notify fire dept. wich building it is.
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heh interesting i guess.
wtf i didnt know these werent normal things everywhere
Can you explain
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Seconds count, it shows which building the emergency is so the firefighters get In quickly
The East Coast sucks to be honest
In what way
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@@jaredthompson3011I do.
@@jaredthompson3011I care too.