I have been in situations like this before, and one of my biggest lessons over the past few years is learning how clear expectations = kind. Blunt, honest, clear agreements are the only way I move forward now, because people like us with big hearts assume others will meet that equally. Again, I sense your contractor (I won’t name who it is) bit off more than they could chew, and so they may also feel as though they put in more than they got back. This is an equally important learning moment for them to become clear about themselves - over promising and under delivering. My heart goes out to all of you, and I wish it wasn’t such a costly mistake. Will continue to play, play, play your channel to help boost your income in our small way.
This so making us understand the start of your depression episode beginning when you got home. I admire you both taking the high road on this. I am not sure I could have. Look forward to your bus build!
I have a good feeling about you guys - everything is going to be just great. And your positivity and focus is inspirational ❤️..you'll be better than ok Karl!✨️❤️
I love you guys, i love your attitude to life. The bus is gonna be such a fantastic space when finished. Keep. Being strong 💪 you got this. Looking forward to your cooking episodes Kyle. Yojr dishes always look amazing . ❤❤❤❤
I’m so sorry this happened to you and I’m sending positive vibes for the journey with the new updates you have to do. I pray some sweet folks that can help will come help you too. You never know. Wishing you the best and sending love ❤🥰❤️🙏🏻🙌🏻❤️
My heart is crushed for you both (and the kids). I'm glad that you are taking it well. I can't say that I could be as accepting as you. I know that you are working within all the details that you and Jenn know and making the best choice. It may end up to be the best choice and a perfect project for you & Jenn. 54:09 I look forward to watching the bus build . You have a bunch of good caring peeps in your village and ya never know what can come out of that. I will continue to watch every post and full ads to help support your goals. If I am ever in a place that I can do more, I surely will. Sending ❤️ and virtual hugs from our framily to your family~ Nicole in Florida
You guys are an amazing couple and family. Contractor/3rd party stuff happens to all of us, in different but similar ways. We get you. Your supporters are out here for you!
This is going to be a positive in many, many ways… #1. You’ll have lots of exciting content to film. #2. By doing the rest of the build yourselves, it’ll be extremely more meaningful and special once everything’s completed. #3. You’ll grow even closer as family. #4. Your viewers will support you now, more than ever!!! ❤❤❤
I’ve been following you guys for quite some time and love watching how far you’ve come 🥰 we are also building to travel Australia and you guys have been a major inspiration for our build. You will get there and daisy will be amazing once your done 🤩 bit of a bummer but you will come out on top 💪🏽 💙
Sorry to hear this happened. I kept checking his channel for updates and wondered if everything was going smoothly with it. You guys are in a good spot for help with the community that travels to quartzite this time of year but if you guys find yourself close to the Pahrump Nv area and need any help I’d be willing to give a helping hand.
Shame on the him, I was looking forward to seeing the finished bus. Sending lots of love and good vibes your way and hope someone out there will come and help you guys out ♥ ♥ ♥
I know hindsight is 20/20 I learned the hard way too not as hard as yall 💔 never pay up front and of course like you said contract … have set labor rate and require itemized bills. That way you see exactly where the money is going and they can’t just decide how much they deserve for their labor as they go :( really appreciate your attitudes about it!! I’m in AZ over in the west valley wish I could help yall somehow! But definitely think you picked perfect place for this the weather is perfect!!!
Carma works in both ways! Blessings are headed your way and unfortunately curses probably his way. Take care guys, and its great to see how your keeping your chin's up and chest's out 🙂
Sometimes things happen for a reason. I try to look at the positive side and roll up my sleeves so to speak and get to work. I know you learned a very valuable lesson, we are only as good as our word. Going forward always get a contract with a completion date. Unfortunately the person who didn't finish wasn't up-front and he bit off more than he could chew. Your new home looks so spacious and will be beautiful when complete. Always look forward to your content and wishing your family peace, love and happiness in 2025! 🌻🐕🦋
I’m so sorry ! I hope the kids at least had a great Christmas. God always has a plan. Put all your faith in him and TRY to take it one day at a time. 🙏🙏🙏
You need to go online to Arizona Registrar of Contractors and file a complaint. Free of charge. He is legally required to be licensed, any subcontractors also. If not licensed, a felony. Him wanting more and more sounds like he has not been paying the subcontractors. You want to find out. His insurance should also have a clause in there. On the contractors board you can almost find out anything. Do not walk away from that kind of money nor shoddy treatment of a consumer! Verbal is binding in Arizona.
I'm sorry that you're going through this but at least you can put the finishing touches to the bus yourselves this year can only get better for you all I hope Happy New Year from UK ❤️
Well, this shouldn’t have happened with Daisy at all. Although it’s another bump in the road. At the end of the day you still have each other and all the framely here. I wish I was near to help you out, but I’m stuck in Tampa for now. Hugs you guys and sending positive vibes ❤
What is done looks great. I am glad the kids spaces are mostly done and just need the finishing touches for the kids. I am looking forward to Kyle's new channel. It is a bit of a bummer that it is getting delayed by this.
I’m praying for you and your family. I bind the people mind to the mind of Christ that the will feel convicted in their hearts to make this right . In Jesus name Amen .
I’ve been here for a couple of years n got busy sorry. Saw this and my heart hurts for you. Kyle you may not like this but maybe your new channel IS the bus rebuild??Maybe that’s what it’s supposed to be? IDK but never give up. I’ll be more present n sending huge hugs to all. PS do a go fund me if needed only those who want will give n many care for you all. Hugs 💜💜
18:30 can't help but notice Kyle is resting his face on his middle finger a lot in this video. It'll be okay buddy. You'll make it through this. I really hope Jenn helps you instead of focusing on the book/blogpost/bustique. Those are good side goals but you need to work together to finish the bus ASAP. So far Jen was told Kyle she wants the bus done by Feb. That he will work on it a few days a week. But nothing about how she will help besides design. My partner helped me with our bus and it was invaluable. Please help him Jenn, focus on your stuff again when the bus is done
That’s a very decent years wages you paid … and the work I see there plus supplies doesn’t equate!! That’s working full time btw if this person worked full time that bus would have been done months and months ago! Here in Az I see big homes be built for cheaper and faster!!! They sell for a whole lot more but definitely could have built a home with nice appliances countertops lighting for the amount yall put into this. I just can’t get over it! But I get not wanting the drama of legal! I believe in karma and you get what you put out!
Aw guys, I'm sorry. I don't know if I caught it or not but wondering is the new bus half finished or 3/4 of the way finished? Do you still have a long way to go to finish it? I'm hoping and praying that it all works out for the best. Love you guys!!
Tell Eric to make himself useful and mention you guys in one of his videos to get some more traffic flowing your way.. If he was in tune with life, outside of himself, he would have done that already!
42:30 agreed on the hidden costs of clothes selling. There is no profit the way y'all are selling online. Between cost to buy the clothes, gas, cleaning, pictures, storage your easily at $10-20 per piece. Then you pay 5-20 for shipping. Then you pay online fees. Then after all that you still pay 30% tax to the gov. Selling clothes isn't profitable unless your buying pieces for less than a dollar in bulk, or your buying high end, good quality, designer clothes that will sell for 5-10x your purchase price. Buying clothes at a thrift store for $10-20 and trying to flip them for $30-50 isn't worth it. Might as well work a real job for a few hours a week, you'd make more profit with way less work
Your attorney can get paid from your $ and their insurance company will want to settle vs spend tens of thousands just to get to dispose everyone. And tens of thousand more to get it in front of a judge You file and wait and they pay to play the game of consequences. You had a budget to include a finished product and more time and $ later if you had to hire carpenters & painters & tile’er and electric and plumbing and flooring about $20k
You are doing a disservice to both your family and the community if you do not expose the builders for what they are…dishonest. Not all families will be able to handle the devastation as well as you and will not be able to overcome and move on as quickly emotionally and financially. Please if nothing else make another video “Buyer be aware” and document your experience highlighting the red flags along the way so others do not fall into the same trap.
I don't think he scammed them. I think he under estimated the cost and time needed to build out a coach to that level of spec. I also imagine the Bethunes added a good deal of complexity to the bus build as it was progressing. The build quality of what's done is amazing. The pantry and bunk beds have so many hours of meticulous perfect result work. That control panel that was custom routered in the front with custom leather padding is amazing. The roof deck and water and electrical systems are gorgeous. This type of build should cost 200k. Unfortunately 128k Is what it costs to build out an extended luxury sprinter van. 40 ft of luxury build is just so much work and the material cost is off the charts. Exposing him wouldn't be helpful. They both have equal perspectives and sometimes a job is underbid and it ends up costing more or the job is 3/4 finished and has to be walked away from
@@Greatersko1 I also do not believe the builder scammed them however the builder absolutely knew after 3-4 months that the job could not be completed as per the initial requirements within the timeframe and budget agreed upon. The builder was dishonest by keeping them in the dark. Kyle and Jen should have had the option to abort and find someone else that could meet their time and budget expectations.
They aren't stupid. They are both good people who assume everyone has good intentions. Unfortunately less than honest people take advantage of them quite often but that doesn't make them stupid
Please don’t call our beautiful Framily stupid, maybe watch their older videos and get to know them and see what we have over the years , instead of saying nasty things about them . That’s why they have built a community and have a wonderful platform. Happy new year.
Make you feel better had tile guy picked up by Homeland Security left all his tools and was three weeks behind by then.Honestly most contractors are like this. You just move on here.
I have been in situations like this before, and one of my biggest lessons over the past few years is learning how clear expectations = kind. Blunt, honest, clear agreements are the only way I move forward now, because people like us with big hearts assume others will meet that equally. Again, I sense your contractor (I won’t name who it is) bit off more than they could chew, and so they may also feel as though they put in more than they got back. This is an equally important learning moment for them to become clear about themselves - over promising and under delivering. My heart goes out to all of you, and I wish it wasn’t such a costly mistake. Will continue to play, play, play your channel to help boost your income in our small way.
This so making us understand the start of your depression episode beginning when you got home.
I admire you both taking the high road on this. I am not sure I could have. Look forward to your bus build!
I have a good feeling about you guys - everything is going to be just great. And your positivity and focus is inspirational ❤️..you'll be better than ok Karl!✨️❤️
Consider settling up a tripod(s) around the bus so we can see your process of finishing the build. Doing it live would be even cooler (to me). 😊
I love you guys, i love your attitude to life. The bus is gonna be such a fantastic space when finished. Keep. Being strong 💪 you got this. Looking forward to your cooking episodes Kyle. Yojr dishes always look amazing . ❤❤❤❤
I’m so sorry this happened to you and I’m sending positive vibes for the journey with the new updates you have to do. I pray some sweet folks that can help will come help you too. You never know. Wishing you the best and sending love ❤🥰❤️🙏🏻🙌🏻❤️
My heart is crushed for you both (and the kids).
I'm glad that you are taking it well. I can't say that I could be as accepting as you. I know that you are working within all the details that you and Jenn know and making the best choice. It may end up to be the best choice and a perfect project for you & Jenn. 54:09 I look forward to watching the bus build . You have a bunch of good caring peeps in your village and ya never know what can come out of that. I will continue to watch every post and full ads to help support your goals. If I am ever in a place that I can do more, I surely will. Sending ❤️ and virtual hugs from our framily to your family~ Nicole in Florida
You guys are an amazing couple and family. Contractor/3rd party stuff happens to all of us, in different but similar ways. We get you.
Your supporters are out here for you!
This is going to be a positive in many, many ways…
#1. You’ll have lots of exciting content to film.
#2. By doing the rest of the build yourselves, it’ll be extremely more meaningful and special once everything’s completed.
#3. You’ll grow even closer as family.
#4. Your viewers will support you now, more than ever!!!
❤❤❤
I’ve been following you guys for quite some time and love watching how far you’ve come 🥰 we are also building to travel Australia and you guys have been a major inspiration for our build. You will get there and daisy will be amazing once your done 🤩 bit of a bummer but you will come out on top 💪🏽 💙
Sorry to hear this happened. I kept checking his channel for updates and wondered if everything was going smoothly with it. You guys are in a good spot for help with the community that travels to quartzite this time of year but if you guys find yourself close to the Pahrump Nv area and need any help I’d be willing to give a helping hand.
Shame on the him, I was looking forward to seeing the finished bus. Sending lots of love and good vibes your way and hope someone out there will come and help you guys out ♥ ♥ ♥
Love you guys you're going to be ok. You got this ❤️❤️
I know hindsight is 20/20 I learned the hard way too not as hard as yall 💔 never pay up front and of course like you said contract … have set labor rate and require itemized bills. That way you see exactly where the money is going and they can’t just decide how much they deserve for their labor as they go :( really appreciate your attitudes about it!! I’m in AZ over in the west valley wish I could help yall somehow! But definitely think you picked perfect place for this the weather is perfect!!!
Carma works in both ways! Blessings are headed your way and unfortunately curses probably his way. Take care guys, and its great to see how your keeping your chin's up and chest's out 🙂
Yall make me smile. What good hearts! Hugs and positive vibes!
I’m so sorry to hear that this happened to you… Sometimes life throws us curve balls! You have a beautiful family and I wish you the best!!
Sometimes things happen for a reason. I try to look at the positive side and roll up my sleeves so to speak and get to work. I know you learned a very valuable lesson, we are only as good as our word. Going forward always get a contract with a completion date. Unfortunately the person who didn't finish wasn't up-front and he bit off more than he could chew. Your new home looks so spacious and will be beautiful when complete. Always look forward to your content and wishing your family peace, love and happiness in 2025! 🌻🐕🦋
I’m so sorry ! I hope the kids at least had a great Christmas. God always has a plan. Put all your faith in him and TRY to take it one day at a time. 🙏🙏🙏
Oh no prayers with you guys . So sorry that things didn’t work out as planned ❤ take one day at a time everything will get done.
You need to go online to Arizona Registrar of Contractors and file a complaint. Free of charge. He is legally required to be licensed, any subcontractors also. If not licensed, a felony. Him wanting more and more sounds like he has not been paying the subcontractors. You want to find out. His insurance should also have a clause in there. On the contractors board you can almost find out anything. Do not walk away from that kind of money nor shoddy treatment of a consumer! Verbal is binding in Arizona.
I'm sorry that you're going through this but at least you can put the finishing touches to the bus yourselves this year can only get better for you all I hope Happy New Year from UK ❤️
Happy New Year to you all!
Well, this shouldn’t have happened with Daisy at all. Although it’s another bump in the road. At the end of the day you still have each other and all the framely here. I wish I was near to help you out, but I’m stuck in Tampa for now. Hugs you guys and sending positive vibes ❤
LOV YOU and yes those awful people with negative comments Block them we lov your family❤❤❤❤❤
Yes i lov your food yummie❤ Food channel you will be the best.🎉🎉🎉
What is done looks great. I am glad the kids spaces are mostly done and just need the finishing touches for the kids.
I am looking forward to Kyle's new channel. It is a bit of a bummer that it is getting delayed by this.
Please start a Go Fund Me or similar. Rather give without YT taking 30-40%..
I’m praying for you and your family. I bind the people mind to the mind of Christ that the will feel convicted in their hearts to make this right . In Jesus name Amen .
I'm really sorry things didnt work out as you hoped. At least you have control now and can finish the job. 2025 is going to be a good year for you. 💜💜
I’ve been here for a couple of years n got busy sorry. Saw this and my heart hurts for you. Kyle you may not like this but maybe your new channel IS the bus rebuild??Maybe that’s what it’s supposed to be? IDK but never give up. I’ll be more present n sending huge hugs to all. PS do a go fund me if needed only those who want will give n many care for you all. Hugs 💜💜
I think for your new channel it should be your name. You already are known so using your name would be great! ❤
Live and Learn ❤
18:30 can't help but notice Kyle is resting his face on his middle finger a lot in this video. It'll be okay buddy. You'll make it through this. I really hope Jenn helps you instead of focusing on the book/blogpost/bustique. Those are good side goals but you need to work together to finish the bus ASAP. So far Jen was told Kyle she wants the bus done by Feb. That he will work on it a few days a week. But nothing about how she will help besides design. My partner helped me with our bus and it was invaluable. Please help him Jenn, focus on your stuff again when the bus is done
Jenn has always help with their bus builds, check out their old videos Jenn has always helped out .
That’s a very decent years wages you paid … and the work I see there plus supplies doesn’t equate!! That’s working full time btw if this person worked full time that bus would have been done months and months ago! Here in Az I see big homes be built for cheaper and faster!!! They sell for a whole lot more but definitely could have built a home with nice appliances countertops lighting for the amount yall put into this. I just can’t get over it! But I get not wanting the drama of legal! I believe in karma and you get what you put out!
Aw guys, I'm sorry. I don't know if I caught it or not but wondering is the new bus half finished or 3/4 of the way finished? Do you still have a long way to go to finish it? I'm hoping and praying that it all works out for the best. Love you guys!!
So sorry this happened to you.
"Meander With Me" for a name of yr new channel Kyle?
I love to know why i was put on timeout on your live? Did I say something or did I put something in your live to put me there?
Tell Eric to make himself useful and mention you guys in one of his videos to get some more traffic flowing your way.. If he was in tune with life, outside of himself, he would have done that already!
42:30 agreed on the hidden costs of clothes selling. There is no profit the way y'all are selling online. Between cost to buy the clothes, gas, cleaning, pictures, storage your easily at $10-20 per piece. Then you pay 5-20 for shipping. Then you pay online fees. Then after all that you still pay 30% tax to the gov.
Selling clothes isn't profitable unless your buying pieces for less than a dollar in bulk, or your buying high end, good quality, designer clothes that will sell for 5-10x your purchase price.
Buying clothes at a thrift store for $10-20 and trying to flip them for $30-50 isn't worth it. Might as well work a real job for a few hours a week, you'd make more profit with way less work
So sorry things didn't turn out right.
Your attorney can get paid from your $ and their insurance company will want to settle vs spend tens of thousands just to get to dispose everyone. And tens of thousand more to get it in front of a judge You file and wait and they pay to play the game of consequences. You had a budget to include a finished product and more time and $ later if you had to hire carpenters & painters & tile’er and electric and plumbing and flooring about $20k
How could you ever pay that kind of money and not have a concrete contract drawn up for the build of the bus?
Because they trusted friends. Because their heart is kind.
You are doing a disservice to both your family and the community if you do not expose the builders for what they are…dishonest. Not all families will be able to handle the devastation as well as you and will not be able to overcome and move on as quickly emotionally and financially. Please if nothing else make another video “Buyer be aware” and document your experience highlighting the red flags along the way so others do not fall into the same trap.
I don't think he scammed them. I think he under estimated the cost and time needed to build out a coach to that level of spec. I also imagine the Bethunes added a good deal of complexity to the bus build as it was progressing. The build quality of what's done is amazing. The pantry and bunk beds have so many hours of meticulous perfect result work. That control panel that was custom routered in the front with custom leather padding is amazing. The roof deck and water and electrical systems are gorgeous.
This type of build should cost 200k. Unfortunately 128k Is what it costs to build out an extended luxury sprinter van. 40 ft of luxury build is just so much work and the material cost is off the charts.
Exposing him wouldn't be helpful. They both have equal perspectives and sometimes a job is underbid and it ends up costing more or the job is 3/4 finished and has to be walked away from
@@Greatersko1 I also do not believe the builder scammed them however the builder absolutely knew after 3-4 months that the job could not be completed as per the initial requirements within the timeframe and budget agreed upon. The builder was dishonest by keeping them in the dark. Kyle and Jen should have had the option to abort and find someone else that could meet their time and budget expectations.
Some of my you tube people I follow have subscribers. Could yall start that to help?
Sometimes just realize that you were stupid....and you lose.
I don't like it when you call our framily, "Stupid." It's so disrespectful.
They aren't stupid. They are both good people who assume everyone has good intentions. Unfortunately less than honest people take advantage of them quite often but that doesn't make them stupid
Please don’t call our beautiful Framily stupid, maybe watch their older videos and get to know them and see what we have over the years , instead of saying nasty things about them . That’s why they have built a community and have a wonderful platform. Happy new year.
Make you feel better had tile guy picked up by Homeland Security left all his tools and was three weeks behind by then.Honestly most contractors are like this. You just move on here.
34:44 That’s the same mindset I have Kyle regarding asking for help or money. I’m very prideful and I just can’t ask for help! 🥴😊🫶