What A Fallen Pastor Taught Me About Fame and Influence...
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
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Motives matter to God.
In this week’s episode of The John Bevere Podcast, John and Arden dive into a critical discussion on the pitfalls of prioritizing fame and influence in ministry. Through an eye-opening story of a fallen pastor, they confront the fundamental question: Am I in this for the right reasons?
No matter what sphere you’re called to serve, you don’t want to miss this episode!
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Chapter Markers
0:00 - Introduction
0:52 - Today's Topic: Growing In Our Salvation, And Staying Faithful In Ministry
3:33 - Reading and Unpacking 2 Peter 1:1: A Slave, An Apostle
4:50 - Download MessengerX
5:41 - Reading and Unpacking 2 Peter 1:1: A Slave, An Apostle
10:22 - How Do I Know I'm Fully Committed?
10:53 - Servanthood, Promotion, Influence And Spiritual Maturity
13:50 - Social Media And Ministry Being Attractive, And Character VS Heart
23:55 - Reading and Unpacking 2 Peter 1:1: Valuable Faith
28:15 - A Call To A Relationship With Christ
30:08 - Conclusion
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What's the MOST important thing you've learned from another leader?
Being a leader means putting yourself in front of the people you are leading, to lead is to be willing to take the punches so the team doesn't, and to be able to sacrifice yourself so that others will not need to sacrifice. Leadership is more than its privileges, it is a responsibility to others and if we only have a heart for ourselves we cannot be good leaders.
to listen more than speak, and when you do, to be intentional with your words. And more than that, to be sensitive to what the Holy Spirit wants to do in the moment over being precious about the plan you had yourself 💙
Raise others up, so they can live without you
First and foremost pastor John, I love you my brother…and so grateful for you and your life in Christ. The bait of satan so strengthened my walk and kept me aware of the scheme of the devil and kept free from offense in ministry and life in Christ till today.
I, my friends and my close family(including brothers and sisters in Christ) have eaten from the fruit of that wisdom. Thank you! To answer in a word to your question, intimacy/friendship with Jesus, not to serve, to be used(gifted), BUT to simply be His. Like a bride who married her husband to simply be joined to them…to simply get to know Him more deeply for herself. Not for what she gets from him cuz they are married, nor how she gets to do things for Him…but she is simply married to Him for Him. If that’s is supreme within the relationship I believe anyone can endure to the end in love. Everything else(gifts, ministry, life lived on earth) is just the natural by product of our intentional focus and devotion to Love, Himself. Psalms 27…to behold the beauty…❤️🔥
When you shared the story of what true worship is. It is obedience. At the time holy Spirit was trying to show me this truth in things being said and following through.
"If I'm performing, I get nervous. If I'm serving, I don't get nervous." Thank you Sir🙏
I'm not sure I agree with this. Preaching the Word of God is no small task. There is nothing more terrifying than speaking wrongly about God or His word. A preacher that does not fear God is on a very dangerous path. I have known preachers who are nervous before every single message, even after forty years of preaching. I suppose I could concur with this if the thing that makes you nervous is the approval of men. But if you move away from the fear of man to NOT having the fear of man, that is only making it part of the way. "Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness." (James 3:1). The OT is full of references to God's displeasure with those who lie about His character and His word. The pulpit is not a place of comfort.
Wow! That's eye opening. Amen.
I have been reading Fear of God for weeks now, on week 5. I believe John means that in the act of serving he doesn’t feel a need to be pleasing any man but being pleasing unto the father. His holy fear is still there , ever present in his life.
That line resonated a lot because even as a performer the nerves literally come because of who is watching but as I developed I notice this is a gift and now im serving 🙏🏾
John quote, "If I am performing I get nervous, if i am serving i dont get nervous. It is about God being served...." love this.
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As a minister and a preacher, I’ll admit I have approached preaching as performance…so when people tell me how the message blessed them, I feel seen. When I don’t get the feedback I feel disheartened.
It’s very easy to think the platform is the goal. Thank you for this podcast, it has convicted me and has brought necessary course correction in my heart.
Put "your ministry" on the altar. Give everything you are, everything you have to God. Allow purification, through the cleansing of the water of the Word, God will give you the words and the means to truly minister to others. You must decrease, He must increase, in and through you.
@@donnaleveron5711 Thank you for this. I appreciate these words.
After I minister
I always tell myself live by man’s approval we will die by there criticism.
I also think faith is not feedback.
Hope this helps
@@donnaleveron5711 Great word
Crazy I’m seeing all these OG preachers correcting all the new influencers preachers, it’s good not because they’re putting them down but they’re edifying them to become better.
I absolutely love to see Dad and Son sit together and talk deep godly stuff. It inspires me to be that kind of dad to my four kids. Thank you both of you for serving God!
One of the things that I am honored to say about the Beveres , particularly John and Lisa, they never came out to the public as celebrity ministers. Unfortunately, we have to admit that as believers we are to be blamed for creating celebrity preachers and now it has become a problem because we created a status for them that made them untouchable, unreachable, and very elite minded, and forget who they truly are - as servantservants of the Lord. We have ministries That have created a title for themselves and their wives being called First Lady “ and titles that elevates themselves walking with bodyguards, etc. it’s very sad to see and witness it.
So True love this
Listening to these 1st 2 podcasts made me realize I have drifted so far from my relationship with Jesus, I have repented and commit to reading my Bible, praying & studying
There's nothing more glorious than a relationship with our Father. I'm so happy for you!!
😢I can relate.
What matters more is our walk with God. John is right, many people want to be big because of an insecurity.
What the son says about his dad says everything about the man. It’s great to see a father and son doing ministry together.
Hello! I am a sister from Ukraine. I have been listening to your sermons and reading John and Lisa's books for the past 25 years! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE! I thank God for helping me on my earthly journey with people like YOU!🇺🇸🙏🙏🇺🇦
I love this podcast with dad and son. It is true, you don't get nervous if what you're doing is in service. I've played the piano over 50 years and I can tell you, I used to get nervous until my daddy told me, it isn't to please the congregation, it is worship to Jesus and preparing hearts to hear the Word of God. As long as I humble myself to my Heavenly Father, what He hears will be pleasing to Him.
I love learning about Jesus. He is everything in my life. I once was a bad addict, bad everything until Jesus found me at my worst. He changed everything about me. I'm living for him now, a much better life.
AMEN When I became a widow, I was grieving so much, that I stopped doing my night devotion... Until one night God messed with my DVD player...
So I went back to my night devotion which I had skipped for a few months. Then I heard an almost audible voice say;
"THAT'S IMPORTANT"
And now hearing you speak of so many people that have fallen away for not abiding in the word the Bible. I am so glad God has kept this widow he certainly has kept me close, as I keep him close abiding in his word, and in prayer. 📖🙏🙌
And praise.❤📖
Beautiful to see a son honour his parents ❤️
The Holy Spirit led me to this video. I have been going back-and-forth in my head if I should start a UA-cam channel about relationships Christianity and the loving of God and his goodness, greatness, but I also had reservation because I would ask myself and I truly doing this because I want to honor God or to get all the views and likes but by watching this Video , it helped me realize that I need to become a true slave to Jesus , God and the Holy Spirit to be in full Awe of him and to share anything about him with a pure heart and true intentions. Thank you for this message.
John, I remember you from that ministry, my pastor from 1979 to 1997, although final years were spent in intercession, mainly. This ministry started out with such a sweetness, the early days in the warehouse were awesome, seeking God. I learned so much, was filled with the Holy Spirit and fire there under Charles and Frances Hunter after having given my life to the Lord a few weeks earlier, also there. Many ministries were birthed during this time. I remember seeing you holding TL Osborne's coat and the Holy Spirit spoke in my heart telling me you would rise to a great ministry, because of your humbleness of heart. The Lord gave me a vision of the future of that place and ministry around 1982 during a service with Norvel Hayes. It shook me, but was not given permission to share, only pray. He had a heart for God, I pray that hunger returns.
Thank you both for showing by example, how to learn from the word and not to rush through it. We so need to wait on the Lord. I find discussing the word with others so encouraging and listening to you both honouring each other so beautiful. The Lord bless you. ❤️
John Bevere is one of my most trusted teachers of the Word. Every word spoke to me as I watched the podcast.
Wow this was so good. As a Gen Z/millenial, I’ve seriously yearned for clarification and revelation on the subject of social media and influence specifically to advance the kingdom of God. Thank you so much for going there!!! This has helped so much!
The Stanley preachers were very instrumental in bringing me back to Jesus_ though he fell _ we all fall_ he knew where his heart broke _ we all break _ even if he Greatest fall _ just like David and Samson. At this stage in my Journey _ the Holy Spirit brought me here. Everyday and a a New Day in the Lord.
Thank you John & Arden. John I love hearing the awkwardness in your voice as you wrap up and say your name as the branding of this podcast. To me that just solidifies Arden’s comment about you and your ministry, it has ALWAYS been about Him, and not about you. Looking forward to verse 2 lol. Blessings.
"I live for the glory of Him."🙌👑✝️⚖🛡🌄😊
Such a good truth about what it means to serve Jesus where we are called. Thank you John!
Our lives day in & day out, no matter what our place in this world, should reflect Jesus ❤
I absolutely love every one of your videos..such a blessing
Praise God!’ Thank you!!
So needful brother! Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for this, so relevant for leaders today 🙏🏽
Thanks for sharing! Great information that everyone needs to hear
Thank you for the podcast. May God continue to bless you.
Love this format
I so appreciate your input Bevere’s! You all are so filled with so much wisdom and instruction. Please keep the podcasts coming 🫶🏼
Thank you guys 💛💛🙌
Thank you John and Arden.❤
Can't wait for the Word
I really enjoyed the podcast! You really explain things so well. Thank you both!
Powerful
I have to say that this pod cast is still resounding deep in my soul. As a new youth pastor I just ask God to lead me in the right direction to lead His people to Christ. I don’t care for positions nor fame, I just care to make the name of Jesus famous so He get all the honor and glory. As I preach and teach the my youth group I just ask that the holy trinity takes control. As well for my leaders. Please keep bringing good content and great words straight from the Bible. Be blessed and mucho love to the Bevere family. 🤜🏽🤛🏽🫶🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Preach Brothers! What a sound word! It is amazing to hear 2 generations of wisdom. ❤
This is so good!!
Brilliant episode. To God be the Glory🙏🏾
So good! And the intro to the video was incredible
Love this teaching--so helpful. Such a blessing seeing and hearing your family, too.❤️
Dope
Good discussion!
Thank You ,love it ! So relevante also for the Nederland
More of this!! The church needs to get this drilled down! 👏👏👏
Love the podcast! You came to a small church in Ohio, that I was attending many, many years ago. That was the first time hearing you and I was totally impressed with your ministry. Real, raw and to the POINT! Heard you again, more recently, at Pastors Gary & Drenda Keesee's church, New Albany, Ohio. Your ministry is true and pure and honest. Truly helping the rest of us and the whole body of Christ. Love this simple study of The Word. Love the podcast, because I can listen, while I'm at work. I can benefit and grow spiritually. Hearing the study of the Word. BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!!!
Good study
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Thank you for being faithful
SO Good!
Thank you for taking time with verse one of 2 Peter. It was definitely needed. Humility with every promotion and you are being develop through higher servanthood and not through promotion. For a Christian in the financial industry, that’s a great reminder
So helpful, thank you 🔥
John Bevere and family, keep up the good work of sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ.
What a beautiful testimony from the son to speak of the father.
Great message❤
Increíble, poderosa palabra, gracias por dar esa palabra john bevere... hijole poderoso!!!
What a great conversation. I learned some very important things .
Thank you
Great teaching…
I just want to say thank you
God bless you 🙏
Great teaching. Our late Pastor Mack Timberlake, Jr. before his death gave us the assignment of reading the Bite of Satan, which was absolutely so timely and we have shared over that past 30 years! Servants are the greatest in the kingdom of God!!
Yes, Bait of Satan is a very good book about not allowing offenses to destroy believers and churches. Every Christian should read it.
Walk humbly with the Lord is key!
Beautiful words of affirmation of you from your son. Loved it!!🤗❤️
God bless you both🙏
This is so beautiful! Thank you Jesus
Thank you, John B and son, so much for this vital message that goes to the root of the desire for the "fame game" in ministry. Allowing for the divine litmus test, a heart-revealing test to uncover motives, God can then deal and heal roots of self-deception and narcissism. Jon B your teaching today grants the freedom to give themselves permission to become humble and authentic and fulfilled in ministry in Him and ONLY for His glory. ✝🌎🌏🌍
Thank you so much for this episode. The Lord told me months ago to pray for humility. I needed to hear this teaching to know how to pray about it. May the Lord use you to bless and save more souls 🙏🏽
Thank you sir and to your son, that quote, serving and performing, wow, just so you know I’ll be using it with my Sunday class ❤ Blessings over the whole family!!!
This format works! Never thought there was so much in Verse 1 😂 but the discussion just went so in depth....... " A promotion in serving " blew my preconceived ideas out of the water, praise God.
YES AND AMEN LORD IN 2024.
John Bevere Podcast is the very best I have ever watched. I am thrilled to be able to sit at the round table with you both and hear truth, the Gospel Truth!. Love you guys so much! Great Job. Living for Eternity is an extremely powerful thing to learn. Thank you....
Keep preaching Sir. The words that GOD speaks through you touch my life deeply. Thank You
Thank you so much for this content. The awe of God book saved my life and my marriage, and I am truly grateful for your willingness to allow God to use you in whatever way he can.
Two people can be doing the same thing, one can be sinning one can be glorifying God. It's the heart and motives in which we do things. One focused on serving and honoring God will not be concerned with numbers or influence. God is the door opener and closer it's His ministry. The position is at completely different ends of the spectrum. SERVANT VS LEADER one is striving for the top, but the servant is striving to be last, not concerned with where they sit at at the table. Hence Jesus.... Love going your way. Thanks for your Godly wisdom John.
I love this podcast and it clear my many concepts towards my relationship with dady God . Shalom. From Pakistan.
This is very good
i don’t usually like podcasts…. but thank you
Thank you
What a beautiful message and reminder of the Christ in us. He came to Serve! Thank you Jesus for demonstrating your love.
I’ve been listening to you for a month now I’m very happy I found your account on UA-cam and instagram I agree with everything you teach and I was very happy to hear that you said a gun is a tool rather than just for killing people.
Hallelujah! Praise Jesus!
Thank you for all your teachings. I just love you guys ❤️ Thank You Almighty God, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit for Your Word 🙏 I love serving, here I am, please use me for Your Glory 🙌🔥 Amen 🙏
Been waiting for this!!
May I live to honor Him May I live to serve Him. I'm reminded of your book " An Horor's Reward" An amazing book
Amen, I am a bondservant of Jesus Christ my lord and King.
We are all called to spread the gospel
I was about to exercise and tune into UA-cam music but ended up listening to your Podcast, so I listened and watched, then trained after while listening to your podcast again - I've NEVER trained without music till today. Ended playing it a third time and now a fourth. " _When we in the word we're actually in prayer_ " " _When is the easiest time to pull a plant out of the ground is when it's young?"_ I also heard with my ears how social media is a tool, you're so right. Although shouldn't we practice Romans 14:1 "As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him but not to quarrel over opinions." I also LOVE how you John and Lisa are accepting your elder age, it shows the action of humility by allowing your natural white hair to grow.
Whenever I am looking for a wise person, I go by what the Bible leads me to and that is by going to those whose hair is white. Those with white or grey hair from age are clear markers to me that they are for God, elders of self-control and disciplined, it's clear you've died to yourself on a daily basis and your hair and your slimness shows the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Jesus did say we'll know them by their fruit. You're of the good tree and the Beveres have corrected and helped me navigate my way to that narrow path. Better open rebuke of a friend then a kiss of the enemy.
Any elder who covers their white hair tells me of their maturity. So thank you for following the Holy Spirit and putting Christ first. It's a relief. Arden did bring some interesting points about how media is attractive now due to social media but it all boils down to the agenda of the heart and the right character and to whom and why we're on the platform in the first place. I will remember "If I'm serving, I don't get nervous." Staying focused on Jesus does remove those self-centeredness of the "I".
This is a great podcast. Sometimes God gives me a chance to speak to belivers and non believes about how God gives the calling to ministry and I try to explain it the best I can but this podcast and your videos have really helped me to understand the bible more clearly. Continue doing this great sessions its a blessing. To God be the glory.
Thank you for showing your hearts of worship to our God.
Amen glory and praises to the Almighty God through Jesus Christ name Amen 🙌🏾🙏🏾🤎🙏🏾
Soo good and timely
This is so good. I always hope that as a worship leader I'm always seen as an inanimate object like the microphone or the guitar. Once people start saying "omg, you look SO good!" I start to get worried...
Thank you for such a good discussion and reminder on the topic so relevant to all who is serving in the Christian ministry. The most important component is the heart and motives of the person serving. ❤️
John I love you and Lisa. Always have. This is my first time catching a podcast. I don’t think we’ve heard enough from Arden during this podcast. I was interested in some of his thoughts that weren’t completed.
your hearts are beautiful.
❤LOVE❤ LOVE ❤LOVE this.!!! John, are you nervous before speaking to 10,000 people? "No. If I'm nervous it's about performance. If I'm serving, I don't get nervous." SO GOOD! Your focus is either your self or others. Can't be both.
Arden quote describing his parents..."I have seen you and mum, Grow in humility, as you have grown in exposure ..."
I need God to open my spiritual ears, i believe that God talks all the time but sometimes fails to hear Him. my desire after reading the awe of God is to have a good relationship with God.
Amen, thanks so mcuh.
Make sure what you are doing. God has called you there.