@OpenAirAdventure : I totally agree, and everyone has different tools at their disposal.. Hopefully, this made sense to you, and not a total. "Here we go he is telling me what I need to use" Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
@@TravisDoesFirewood Thank you. Was worried that this wouldn't make sense and so fsr it's coming out (in response) nicely. Glad you are feeling better and thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍 Thanks
I can understand that. Hopefully, I made a little sense in explaining it. If not, that's ok. You just got to watch me cut a little firepit food . 🤣 Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Nicely explained. I run 28" predominantly. Im 5'5". Im on the east coast cutting hardwood, Firewood. I will bring along as many as 5 extra chains at times. I have found this to be true. Guys dont want to, or simply can't, pony up for a saw that will pull a 28" or 32" bar. Typically a 70+ CC saw is needed, they are not cheap. Another good point is, limbing is alot easier with a long bar. Plenty of choices for a lightweight long bar now-a-days.
And at other times it comes down to personal preference, at 5-7" I prefer 20-24" bars on 70-90cc saws as anything longer feels awkward/clumsy for me especially if cutting felling and limbing in heavy brush in the upper midwest. 50cc saws get 16" bars and occasionally I will run a 088 saw with 42" bar for stumping.
I wish I could, but my home rink is officially closed. It was in an electrical fire Sep of 2020 and insurance won't cover anything. Sad as that place just celebrated 50 years in business. Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
@thefirewooddoctor : I think that's the ultimate plan, but we shall see as the family that owns the property is still around, and one of them is now on the local city council. So maybe.
That would make sense to me. Unfortunately, I am in all kinds of diameter stuff, so having the longer bars help. Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
@WilleysFirewood same for me in Wisconsin. Only time I need a bar longer than 20in is for tree service wood. Personally I like a 24in bar on my saws. But have a few small saws that don't have the power for 24. The 24 keps me from bending over to buck logs. Anything longer and I hit the ground a lot.
Same here. But I think I am at the point where I can understand better on short vs. long ones. Just all depends on the cutting style Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Perfect, so you have a variety of bars. I only have the 2, and depending on what I am cutting is what I am grabbing. Every tool has its purpose. Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Sawing most everything with 91 driver full comp Stihl chain. (28" ) I have the other options and fully agree with what you are saying but I'm just a bit shorter.than you. Less drivers might be faster on sharpening but for me its save one minute filing and spend five trying to stand up straight again.
I have one saw i try different stuff on. 28" with 8 tooth sprocket. And a oversized piston at 52mm. Its a original edition, 372 gray market. So i beat on it quite thoroughly. . Its the Best way ive come up with for falling red alder. As the only other tree more evil then a alder is the blasted vine maple. That stuff is straight devil wood. Definitely known for taking lives. . I believe red alder is the 3rd fastest rotting wood on earth. I need to dig deeper in to it and make sure that statement is true.
@@DanielAtkinsFirewood ive heard stories of someone making a shed out of alder lumber off there property. In 3 years building it, when finished. the first part was already falling apart.. LOL
These are the only 2 bars I have for the 461s. Hopefully, this made sense to what I was trying to explain. If not, hopefully, you enjoyed the video Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
HI DANIEL, KILLER VIDEO. LOTS OF COOL INFO. ABOUT CHAIN LENGTH & SHARPNESS. THE TAZAPALOOZA OFFERED MUCH MORE THAN JUST SHOWIN' OFF NEW PRODUCT. I LIKED THE FACT THAT YOU GOT A CHANCE TO GO IN THE WOODS AND WORK SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH OTHER FOLKS AND TAKE BACK LOTS OF KILLER INFO & TECHNICS YOU WOULDN'T GET ANYWHERE ELSE... I HAVE AN MS 170 WITH A 14-INCH BAR FOR SMALLS. AN MS 391 WITH A 24-INCH BAR AND A 500i WITH A 24 & 32-INCH BAR. IT'S STRANGE, THOUGH, THE GUYS I HAVE HELPIN ME ONLY USE THE 170... BUT FOR EVERYTHING. FELLIN' TREES, LIMBIN', AND CUTTIN' LUMBER... THEY SAY THE OTHERS ARE TOO HEAVY. WELL KEEP IT REAL BROTHER. STAY COOL AND KEEP PUSHIN ON. PEACE FROM CREEL CHIHUAHUA, MEXICO...
Yea, that was the 1 takeaway from tazaplooza is I have gotten to cut such a verity that it is stuff over the years I could relate to and explain what I was feeling and seeing. So that was cool. Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Everyone is different. Different approaches and applications.
@OpenAirAdventure : I totally agree, and everyone has different tools at their disposal..
Hopefully, this made sense to you, and not a total. "Here we go he is telling me what I need to use"
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Good insight Dan. Keep cuttin'!
@@TravisDoesFirewood Thank you. Was worried that this wouldn't make sense and so fsr it's coming out (in response) nicely.
Glad you are feeling better and thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Thanks
Great video Danial . I like the shorter bars only because they take less time to sharpen and we don’t get them huge logs like you very often .
I can understand that. Hopefully, I made a little sense in explaining it.
If not, that's ok. You just got to watch me cut a little firepit food . 🤣
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
less time to sharpen, less weight and less expense to replace.
Nicely explained. I run 28" predominantly. Im 5'5". Im on the east coast cutting hardwood, Firewood. I will bring along as many as 5 extra chains at times.
I have found this to be true. Guys dont want to, or simply can't, pony up for a saw that will pull a 28" or 32" bar. Typically a 70+ CC saw is needed, they are not cheap. Another good point is, limbing is alot easier with a long bar. Plenty of choices for a lightweight long bar now-a-days.
Thank you,and I appreciate it. I was hoping it would make sense.
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
And at other times it comes down to personal preference, at 5-7" I prefer 20-24" bars on 70-90cc saws as anything longer feels awkward/clumsy for me especially if cutting felling and limbing in heavy brush in the upper midwest. 50cc saws get 16" bars and occasionally I will run a 088 saw with 42" bar for stumping.
Good Morning Daniel, 25-28 seems to be my favorite now a days, Used to cut everything with a Stihl 029 farm boss, with a 16” bar🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
When I am in piles or smaller stuff, the 28in bar is better for me.
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Anything longer than 24in is a long bar to me. Anything under 20in is a short bar. Right tool for the job!
That seems to be normal, and that's ok. Everyone's cutting needs are different.
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Both are fine for different situations
Depends on your cutting style, but they will do the job.
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Good video. I like the 25 inch as my everyday saw. I use bigger if I need it.
Depends on what and where I am cutting. I go between both 28 and the 32-inch bars.
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Good explanation, Daniel. Have a great day around the yard.
Thank you. I was hoping it would make sense even just a little.
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
It's time to get the tights back on and hit the skating rink!
I wish I could, but my home rink is officially closed.
It was in an electrical fire Sep of 2020 and insurance won't cover anything.
Sad as that place just celebrated 50 years in business.
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
@@DanielAtkinsFirewood then is time to build a new one!
@thefirewooddoctor : I think that's the ultimate plan, but we shall see as the family that owns the property is still around, and one of them is now on the local city council. So maybe.
@DanielAtkinsFirewood maybe I'll come and train with you for the "old-timers olympics" if a new one is built. LOL!
@@thefirewooddoctor hahaha. Now that would be funny.
We run 20” bars because we don’t have a lot of big wood and they are faster to sharpen too.
That would make sense to me. Unfortunately, I am in all kinds of diameter stuff, so having the longer bars help.
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
@WilleysFirewood same for me in Wisconsin. Only time I need a bar longer than 20in is for tree service wood. Personally I like a 24in bar on my saws. But have a few small saws that don't have the power for 24. The 24 keps me from bending over to buck logs. Anything longer and I hit the ground a lot.
Granted I like running longer bars but ever bar for what ever saw have there times and places
Same here. But I think I am at the point where I can understand better on short vs. long ones.
Just all depends on the cutting style
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
I have 16,18,20,24,28,30,32,36” bars. There is a time and place for all of them.
Perfect, so you have a variety of bars.
I only have the 2, and depending on what I am cutting is what I am grabbing.
Every tool has its purpose. Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
Sawing most everything with 91 driver full comp Stihl chain. (28" ) I have the other options and fully agree with what you are saying but I'm just a bit shorter.than you. Less drivers might be faster on sharpening but for me its save one minute filing and spend five trying to stand up straight again.
Sharping both of these chains seems to take me about the same time unless I find metal.
Thanks for watching and commenting 😉 👍
I have one saw i try different stuff on.
28" with 8 tooth sprocket.
And a oversized piston at 52mm.
Its a original edition, 372 gray market. So i beat on it quite thoroughly.
.
Its the Best way ive come up with for falling red alder. As the only other tree more evil then a alder is the blasted vine maple. That stuff is straight devil wood.
Definitely known for taking lives.
.
I believe red alder is the 3rd fastest rotting wood on earth.
I need to dig deeper in to it and make sure that statement is true.
Alder here in the NW seems to grow and rot at the same time, so at least I am not the only one who notices
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
@@DanielAtkinsFirewood ive heard stories of someone making a shed out of alder lumber off there property.
In 3 years building it, when finished. the first part was already falling apart..
LOL
You have the same bar those are the almost the same
These are the only 2 bars I have for the 461s. Hopefully, this made sense to what I was trying to explain. If not, hopefully, you enjoyed the video
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍
HI DANIEL, KILLER VIDEO. LOTS OF COOL INFO. ABOUT CHAIN LENGTH & SHARPNESS. THE TAZAPALOOZA OFFERED MUCH MORE THAN JUST SHOWIN' OFF NEW PRODUCT. I LIKED THE FACT THAT YOU GOT A CHANCE TO GO IN THE WOODS AND WORK SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH OTHER FOLKS AND TAKE BACK LOTS OF KILLER INFO & TECHNICS YOU WOULDN'T GET ANYWHERE ELSE... I HAVE AN MS 170 WITH A 14-INCH BAR FOR SMALLS. AN MS 391 WITH A 24-INCH BAR AND A 500i WITH A 24 & 32-INCH BAR. IT'S STRANGE, THOUGH, THE GUYS I HAVE HELPIN ME ONLY USE THE 170... BUT FOR EVERYTHING. FELLIN' TREES, LIMBIN', AND CUTTIN' LUMBER... THEY SAY THE OTHERS ARE TOO HEAVY. WELL KEEP IT REAL BROTHER. STAY COOL AND KEEP PUSHIN ON. PEACE FROM CREEL CHIHUAHUA, MEXICO...
Yea, that was the 1 takeaway from tazaplooza is I have gotten to cut such a verity that it is stuff over the years I could relate to and explain what I was feeling and seeing. So that was cool.
Thank you for watching and commenting 😉 👍