The fact that this story didn't focus on Goku and Vegeta is what made it so much better to me, personally. Absolutely fantastic work! It was amazing to see the other characters have their moment and shine, especially Uub.
@@WrathfulSaiyan keep up the good work my man! i used to only watch smugstick, saladsaiyan, and techstarr, because most other youtubers would make unrealistic videos, but all of yours that i’ve seen have been very entertaining and i could see them as canon. great job 🫶
@@WrathfulSaiyan : I did thank you. Though I've been thinking about it Scenarios were Goku was influenced by the red ribbon army, ( Abducted, android, experiment) All those had been done before. However , there is one particularly way it has Never been done before: What-if Goku Willingly joined the Red Ribbon Army; Rise of the Red Ribbon Sayian ( the Red Ribbon Army created the Dragon Ball radar 1st, both Colonel Violet & Silver meet Goku while looking for the dragon balls and convince him to join them. Goku is titled Captain Orange: has Crane School & military training , became a poster boy that rose Commander Red 's self-esteem enough to plan for a different wish on the Dragon Ball, grows a friendship with Eightyer ,Silver, Gevo (Human 16), Vomi (Human 21) ,Violet & Launch. And Maybe Kakarot x Ranfan)
@@TrueLight-zr8ou Thats your own headcannon, dont base your powerscaling on db heroes, its not canon Realisticly ssj4 is posible like ssg but since we dont know we cant say
@@nartrus9634 That's not how canon works in Dragon Ball. "Non-Canon" doesn't mean "didn't happen" it means "not in the main timeline". The entire POINT of Xenoverse, The Breakers, and Super Heroes is to flesh out that lore. Technically, Future Trunks' timeline isn't canon either except where it intersects.
This story feels a whole lot more fleshed out than other what if stories I've seen, and definitely could be seen as canonical if this were to happen after GT imo.
@@NicLennartz14 Yeah, that's the one of the problems in this what if. There are probably more that we have yet to think of, but Goku Black being able to go ssj5 immediately is a glaring problem.
As someone who thought SSJ5 was like the coolest thing ever as a kid, as well as someone who has never really liked Beerus, that thumbnail goes SO hard
In my head cannon I always imagined a conversation between Trunks and Vegeta. Trunks: Hey Dad, am I stronger than you? Vegeta: Ha! What makes you think that? Trunks: Well, you worked really hard, and trained for a really long time to achieve that form with the blue hair. Vegeta: That form is Super Saiyan God Blue. It is incredibly powerful. Trunks: Yeah, well mom was talking something about s cells the other day and how half saiyans have more potential. I can already do Super Saiyan 3, plus I already have blue hair, so....😂
New sub here, you've got lots of potential m8! you need a more signature and slower-paced background song tho, something for the background during conversations. This is straight battle music. Love what you're doing!
Very nice what if man, a what if idea i got is : What if dragonball AF happened instead of Db super? I feel like exploring the story of Xicor would lead to an amazing what if and you could customize to your future original ideas.
@@WrathfulSaiyan That's not what you had said however, you said they wished for the SSG then utilized the ritual turning Vegeta SSG. Goku isn't around for this ritual/ceremony therefor doesn't receive the prerequisite to obtain it as per cannon rules.
Honestly, I'm only disappointed that we didn't get to see Fused Trunks as that would've been a nice way to show off how much the two Trunks had bonded. Other than that a great story.
A few what if suggestions: 1) what if the super saiyan forms were evolutions instead of transformations, so like if goku got SS that's his new base and so forth? 2) what if goku were born in U6? 3) what goku and turles were twins?
3. No big deal cause well it's no different than goku and eaditz unless they're both sent to earth. But to make it fair turles should have same pl as goku. Or near it
@@WrathfulSaiyan I know you could do it, and to make a twist to it, to the u6 goku story that is, make him be the only saiyan born with a tail which hasn't been seen in many years, like a recessive trait or something
I would like to add some what if suggestions to your list! Your what ifs are great so i wanna suggest some 1. What if EX Fusion from Dragon ball Fusions was Cannon 2. What If Goku had mahoragas adaptability 3. What If Goku Was Half Kryptonian 5. What If Goku Had Friezas Potential 6. What If Goku Stayed In SSG 7. What If Goku Broke His limits 8. What If Goku Achieved SS4 in Cell Saga 9. What If Goku Was a Genus 10. What If Goku Was the Lssj 11. What if goku mastered SSJ3 12. What if goku mastered Kaioken 13. What if goku was immortal 14. What if goku got super zenkais 15. What if vegito was Permanent 16. What if gogeta was permanent 17. What if Gogeta and Vegito were born instead of Goku and vegeta 18. What if goku was majin buus reincarnation (instead of buu getting sealed he dies and gets reincarnated) 19. what if goku fused with porunga instead of shenron in Gt ( this could branch into AF or Super your choice) 20. What if goku had infinite stamina and ki 21. What if goku and kakarott split 22. What if goku attained SSJ5 from the god ritual in BOG (SSJ6 could be introduced in a what if and further) 23. what if goku stayed evil 24. What if goku took over as GOD in BOG 25. What if goku learned ultra ego 26. What if goku learned magic I dont know if you will do any of these but if you will that would be really nice these are some well thought out ideas! Your what ifs are awesome even for a small youtuber. I have been subscribed on my main account since the start ❣❣
Some of these are interesting but most of them are power fantasies because what's fun in what if Goku had infinite ki and stamina and the mahoraga's adaptability is just dumb aswell as the buu reincarnation one
@@WrathfulSaiyan one of the best what if I've watched and I've seen some that kept me glued from beginning to end its not often that happens and yours did that for me so I tip my hat off to you
Aye @@WrathfulSaiyan i have a question: i'm kinda confused about Super Broly appearing in this what if scenario, i mean, isn't Z Broly Canon to the GT? Or is there 2 Broly's in this what if story? Btw, that still was an awesome what if story!
@@MekeTrefe-gy3fp i dont think any of the movies are canon to gt i might be wrong tho and im about to watch the video so im too lazy to fact check the claim
@@WrathfulSaiyan np man this one was really enjoyable to listen too love the scenario choices and everything only thing I would of done was keep ssj5 and ui separate but who am I to judge or say anything anyways keep up the good work
your plan was to get another subscriber?? it worked... also i leave this idea: what if frieza was sent to earth?? (the idea is king cold gets overthrown by another member of the family(you know who) and he sends frieza as far away as he can to save him, of course goku would arrive too later on)
This was extremely good! How about being that Goku is so powerful that he spars with Daishinkan and thinks he no longer is needed as a protector (which is a ridiculous mindset, now having knowledge of the multiverse and other dimensions that can harbor threats), that he spends his life in the Dragon Dimension or visiting The Omni King by also including his wife Chi-Chi by easily having her restored to the prime of her youth eternally and made immortal ( Dragons in there realm, Grand Priest. Super Dragon Ball wish etc.. ..), and spend his ageless eternally" retired" status with his #1 supporter that he neglected, abandoned and left with no provisions ( never taking on the responsibilities of a man, husband or father)?!? If he can become so Broken & OP that he can't participate in The Tournament of Power, he should use this time to not just spend with Chi-Chi, but also visit and resurrect Raditz, Bardock and Gine!! IJS 🤷🏿♂️
What If Cell Wasn't Evil?, What If Chichi Had Beast Mode (Ft Chichi Black), What If Future Trunks Found Namek?, What If Bardock Escaped To Vampa?, What If Dragonballs Couldn't Bring Back The Dead?, What If Goku Replaced Beerus As God Of Destruction, What If Vegeta Replaced Beerus As God Of Destruction, What If Buu Was Never Evil?, What If Gokus Pod Was Sent To The Galactic Patrol?(Ft Earth Broly And Paragus), What If Earthling Discovered Gravity Training In Og Dragonball?, What If Videl Never Stopped Training? (Insane Potential Pan), What If Hercule Started Training With Gohan And Videl? , What If Cooler Was Beerus Apprentice Destroyer? What If King Cold Never Discovered Planet Vegeta? ,What If Frieza Raised Broly?, What If Raditz Was An Elite Saiyan?, What If Goku And Raditz Were Born As Elite Saiyans?
Honestly all of this would've been more interesting if Goku had stayed gone, there's some points I don't think make much sense, but bringing Goku back really takes away from potential narrative.
Real, and I think it would’ve been more interesting if the ssj god ritual just didn’t happen, with some people going the ssj4 route and sole fighters figuring out god ki
@@WrathfulSaiyan I don't see how when Vegeta can fulfill his role just fine, as was literally what Vegeta's role was at the end of GT. This undermines that point a lot, I think. Goku passed that guardian of Earth torch to Vegeta for a reason.
you know at the end of GT there'd be way way stronger than super you know from Omega shenron existing the little universe was shaking you know if Omega shinwon didn't die the universe would have ended because of his power that's how strong they were
Realistically This Goku Would Actually Be As Strong as The Grand Priest but his Power would Be Limited as the dragon realm Is almost the same realm Zeno resides in the future timeline as he has ascended into what you call Nirvana(Perfect Being above everything) so his power would be capped if he is not in that realm.
@@WrathfulSaiyan no It's not lol. He literally already Transcended Into Godhood he fused With The dragon balls Too. His Base Tanked a Negative karma ball from omega shenron the same omega shenron that is atleast 10x stronger than UFPSSJ 4 Goku casually, the same Goku that is Probably as Strong as Super saiyan God Goku in the Super Manga In Base (Multiply that By atleast 16 Billion or 2.2 Million if you are a downplayer.for SSJ 4 Multiplier) And you add SSJ5 To that which is like a SSJ4 Fusion multiplier on top of SSJ4 He Bodying Beerus Especially if he stacks UI On top Beerus Would've disappeared with 1 punch lol.
@@WrathfulSaiyan imma be honest, the things i didnt like were the mixed transformations and the part where Majuub beat Moro in his best form (when he was equal to blue)
Over all, pretty good. I do disagree with how strong Jiren was though. He is certainly very powerful, but Super Broly or Blue Vegeta, with the x4000 multiplier of SSJ4, would each thrash him on their own.
@@Tx-qk3zj it may not be exactly 4000x stronger than base, we don’t know the exact number and never will, but it is still magnitudes stronger than ssj3, which is a 400x multiplier.
@@Friendly_G but Wrathful makes a point to say that all other universes are unchanged, exactly as they were in canon. And canon Jiren would never last against this what-if’s Vegeta or Broly
I'm at the point were freiza and cell are revived and im imagining *Frieza and cell stepping off a ship and demanding to know were is Goku* Krillin: look we don't know were he is he could be dead Cell: you mean to tell me we were revived just just for Goku to be possibly dead? Krillin: yep *Krillin gets kicked and almost dies* *Krillin owed counter counts to 40* krillin: oh COME ON (If someone wants I'll continue this some kind of Parel timeline*
My only issue with it is Broly. Maybe you addressed it and i missed it but isnt the original Z Broly Movie canon? So this broly would mever exist right?
Bro you should have let Goku master his jltra instinct with the grand priest and not only that , Goku should have combined his mastered ultra instinct with ssj 5, surpassing Whis.
How would goku and freiza come back with the dragon ball if they died in hell. Cause goku told vegeta in the buu ark if he was destroyed while he’s already dead he couldn’t be brought back and ceased to exist .
@@WrathfulSaiyan They didn't die. They just got frozen in the depth of hell. Like they tried to do to Goku. The only reason that didn't work is Goku was still alive and his body heat was what melted the ice.
- What If Goku Can Adapt Like Mahoraga - What If Goku Was Half Kryptonian - What If Goku Had Timeskip - What If Goku Had Friezas Potential - What If Goku Stayed In SSG - What If Goku Broke His limiter (Saitama) - What If Goku Achieved SS4 in Cell Saga - What If Goku Was Intellectual - What If Goku Was Lssj
The fact that this story didn't focus on Goku and Vegeta is what made it so much better to me, personally. Absolutely fantastic work! It was amazing to see the other characters have their moment and shine, especially Uub.
I will always give other characters their moments
binged half of this channel on a road trip today and i can confidently say this channel has crazy potential. proud to be here since 6k
Welcome aboard! And thanks for the kind words I really appreciate it
@@WrathfulSaiyan keep up the good work my man! i used to only watch smugstick, saladsaiyan, and techstarr, because most other youtubers would make unrealistic videos, but all of yours that i’ve seen have been very entertaining and i could see them as canon. great job 🫶
This was an amazing story.
That added the factors of super while Honoring GT. 🎖
Thank you for the story that also saved Uub!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@WrathfulSaiyan : I did thank you. Though I've been thinking about it Scenarios were Goku was influenced by the red ribbon army, ( Abducted, android, experiment) All those had been done before. However , there is one particularly way it has Never been done before:
What-if Goku Willingly joined the Red Ribbon Army; Rise of the Red Ribbon Sayian
( the Red Ribbon Army created the Dragon Ball radar 1st, both Colonel Violet & Silver meet Goku while looking for the dragon balls and convince him to join them. Goku is titled Captain Orange: has Crane School & military training , became a poster boy that rose Commander Red 's self-esteem enough to plan for a different wish on the Dragon Ball, grows a friendship with Eightyer ,Silver, Gevo (Human 16), Vomi (Human 21) ,Violet & Launch. And Maybe Kakarot x Ranfan)
ss4 is equal to instinct omen not ssb lol
@@TrueLight-zr8ou Thats your own headcannon, dont base your powerscaling on db heroes, its not canon
Realisticly ssj4 is posible like ssg but since we dont know we cant say
@@nartrus9634 That's not how canon works in Dragon Ball. "Non-Canon" doesn't mean "didn't happen" it means "not in the main timeline". The entire POINT of Xenoverse, The Breakers, and Super Heroes is to flesh out that lore.
Technically, Future Trunks' timeline isn't canon either except where it intersects.
I like how different this is compared to other what if videos. With time you will get better for sure, don’t give up and don’t burnout. 🔥
Thank you, I will not give up
This story feels a whole lot more fleshed out than other what if stories I've seen, and definitely could be seen as canonical if this were to happen after GT imo.
Same but I don’t like how Goku Black automatically can go ssj 5. It wouldn’t make sense for him to know saiyan feeling
@@NicLennartz14 Yeah, that's the one of the problems in this what if. There are probably more that we have yet to think of, but Goku Black being able to go ssj5 immediately is a glaring problem.
I’m glad you like the series
Ngl this is a pretty seamless integration of both GT and Super lore, that's insane.
Having both stories together would be cool
This was just so good great job.
Thank you so much!
honestly this was pretty well made, keep at it bro
Thanks, will do!
Even if goku black was around. In. GT, he would not be nowhere as powerful as the original goku, at the end of g. T.
I made it that he took the same version of Goku on the what of
As someone who thought SSJ5 was like the coolest thing ever as a kid, as well as someone who has never really liked Beerus, that thumbnail goes SO hard
I was trying to go for that old look that you would see in amv videos back then
In my head cannon I always imagined a conversation between Trunks and Vegeta.
Trunks: Hey Dad, am I stronger than you?
Vegeta: Ha! What makes you think that?
Trunks: Well, you worked really hard, and trained for a really long time to achieve that form with the blue hair.
Vegeta: That form is Super Saiyan God Blue. It is incredibly powerful.
Trunks: Yeah, well mom was talking something about s cells the other day and how half saiyans have more potential. I can already do Super Saiyan 3, plus I already have blue hair, so....😂
Lollll that’s funny vegeta gonna start throwing hands
I loved this story and how it feels like it could’ve been a natural progression from gt definitely gonna be subscribed from now on
I am glad that you enjoy this story!
I think Gohan should have focused on his Ultimate form like how he says in the manga
Maybe but tbh I don’t know how I feel about the beast form
What if goku was the legendary super saiyan? Still waiting for it , but take your time!😊
I want see gohan first
@@SaiyanDekuX gohan is on Masakox Channel and Goku is on Salad Sayian Channel
@@IoeYabuki-jn8uc gohan as lssj in maskoeX is bad ending and vegata as lssj in salad is meh but goku is awsome
@@IoeYabuki-jn8ucyeah but whenever goku gets smt the what if gets annoying and gives it to gohan for no reason
I do plan to do that
New sub here, you've got lots of potential m8!
you need a more signature and slower-paced background song tho, something for the background during conversations. This is straight battle music.
Love what you're doing!
Yea lol imma work on it and thanks!
😢 you did it. It's beutiful exactly what i was looking for now only 3 more missing from my list.
I’m glad you like the series so much!
Very nice what if man, a what if idea i got is : What if dragonball AF happened instead of Db super? I feel like exploring the story of Xicor would lead to an amazing what if and you could customize to your future original ideas.
Thanks and that idea sound interesting
This better than the real show
Thanks!
Good job on the progress. I watched the first ever video a while ago.
Awesome! Thank you!
Word can’t describe who I love seeing a saiyan 5 making a g.o.d quiver
Lolll glad you like it
Goku finding God ki on his own is not happening it has a prerequisite he hasn't met.
I feel like this Goku could as I mean Vegeta did it himself
@@WrathfulSaiyan That's not what you had said however, you said they wished for the SSG then utilized the ritual turning Vegeta SSG.
Goku isn't around for this ritual/ceremony therefor doesn't receive the prerequisite to obtain it as per cannon rules.
@@Zarosian_Iceits not canon lighten the hell up Dragon ball was literally written with the premise of don't think too hard about it
@@avenged-khaos Lol.
Just clicked on the video, but supreme Kai would be bitching to beerus for sleeping too long after what happened 😂
lol he would be
Honestly, I'm only disappointed that we didn't get to see Fused Trunks as that would've been a nice way to show off how much the two Trunks had bonded.
Other than that a great story.
I thought about that but trunks and trunks fusion just wasn’t so sure with it
@@WrathfulSaiyan
Why weren't you sure?
A few what if suggestions:
1) what if the super saiyan forms were evolutions instead of transformations, so like if goku got SS that's his new base and so forth?
2) what if goku were born in U6?
3) what goku and turles were twins?
1. Well they would be way weaker.
2. Relatively safer unless a new plot exists
3. No big deal cause well it's no different than goku and eaditz unless they're both sent to earth. But to make it fair turles should have same pl as goku. Or near it
I do find the second and third what if very interested if I can add my own twist to it
@@WrathfulSaiyan I know you could do it, and to make a twist to it, to the u6 goku story that is, make him be the only saiyan born with a tail which hasn't been seen in many years, like a recessive trait or something
I would like to add some what if suggestions to your list! Your what ifs are great so i wanna suggest some
1. What if EX Fusion from Dragon ball Fusions was Cannon
2. What If Goku had mahoragas adaptability
3. What If Goku Was Half Kryptonian
5. What If Goku Had Friezas Potential
6. What If Goku Stayed In SSG
7. What If Goku Broke His limits
8. What If Goku Achieved SS4 in Cell Saga
9. What If Goku Was a Genus
10. What If Goku Was the Lssj
11. What if goku mastered SSJ3
12. What if goku mastered Kaioken
13. What if goku was immortal
14. What if goku got super zenkais
15. What if vegito was Permanent
16. What if gogeta was permanent
17. What if Gogeta and Vegito were born instead of Goku and vegeta
18. What if goku was majin buus reincarnation (instead of buu getting sealed he dies and gets reincarnated)
19. what if goku fused with porunga instead of shenron in Gt ( this could branch into AF or Super your choice)
20. What if goku had infinite stamina and ki
21. What if goku and kakarott split
22. What if goku attained SSJ5 from the god ritual in BOG (SSJ6 could be introduced in a what if and further)
23. what if goku stayed evil
24. What if goku took over as GOD in BOG
25. What if goku learned ultra ego
26. What if goku learned magic
I dont know if you will do any of these but if you will that would be really nice these are some well thought out ideas! Your what ifs are awesome even for a small youtuber. I have been subscribed on my main account since the start ❣❣
I will look through ur list and see if I like any :)
I like number 2
Some of these are interesting but most of them are power fantasies because what's fun in what if Goku had infinite ki and stamina and the mahoraga's adaptability is just dumb aswell as the buu reincarnation one
This was a really good one what if can't wait for what if goku was raised by the ox king
I’m glad you like the what if!
@@WrathfulSaiyanout of curiosity, why not have Gohan just stick to his Ultimate form?
Rather than ssb + ssj4, i would rather give gohan ssj4 full power, since he is in ultimate state in gt.
That could've work
Amazing Movie 🤍💚💜
Thanks!
Would this version of Goku talk with Chichi to make up for lost time?
I feel like he would
I like how u did it it woulda been interesting to see them try to get Goku back as the 6 member for the god ritual 😢
I wanted them to solve problems without Goku
Who even was the 6th member in the ritual?
There should be a second part to this even if the villains have to be made up
That wouldn’t be a bad idea the storyline is pretty good so we will see
@@WrathfulSaiyan one of the best what if I've watched and I've seen some that kept me glued from beginning to end its not often that happens and yours did that for me so I tip my hat off to you
3:32 im pretty sure it would probably be something like 0.5 %
Oh and ressurection f and c is resseruction f#@k
Lollll
Wanna see a what if super continued into GT continued into AF with a 5 strongest finale
Sounds crazy
They couldn’t do the SSJ god ritual for Vegeta… not enough participants
Forgot to mention about bra I apologize
Vegeta, Goten, Trunks, Gohan, Pan and Bra. I think they are enough.
great video brother.
Glad you enjoyed it
40:38 “trunks is running from his life”
😭😭 I mean for
Aye @@WrathfulSaiyan i have a question: i'm kinda confused about Super Broly appearing in this what if scenario, i mean, isn't Z Broly Canon to the GT? Or is there 2 Broly's in this what if story?
Btw, that still was an awesome what if story!
@@MekeTrefe-gy3fp i dont think any of the movies are canon to gt i might be wrong tho and im about to watch the video so im too lazy to fact check the claim
by movies i mean the z movies
@@wolfdotzip4053 ok
What if goku was born with every race DNA i would wait for you to do it even years
lol he would be very powerful
Nice! Great video. Would you consider doing a what-if on the unseen timeline?
Thanks but probably not
Beerus wants to be defeated so he can retire without living in fear of Zeno erasing him? That vision he had was the sign?
I think Beerus would just like to fight a strong opponent
So Rosè SSJ5 looks amazing!
It does!
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh salad saiyan i choose you! @WrathfulSaiyan
i cant tell if gt power scaling is diiwnplayed ir nit but this is pretty great
I am glad that you like it!
Heat great story
Thanks for listening
@@WrathfulSaiyan np man this one was really enjoyable to listen too love the scenario choices and everything only thing I would of done was keep ssj5 and ui separate but who am I to judge or say anything anyways keep up the good work
Wow good strouy
Thanks!
I thought in one of suhoettue of gokus transformations you were showing ssj5 and ssj6 but you were actually showing super sayian 5 and 4 1:16:42
yea the other was ssj4 limit breaker
51:48 dude transform without tail?
The Goku black had the body of AF Goku so he had a tail I just didn’t have much png of af goku black
Yes, then I realized that
Uub became different skin color in MUI
😭😭😭
Fantastic story
Thanks!
Best what if ever bro.
thanks
can't wait for the next what if.
I am hype about it too
This should've been DragonBall Super.
Would've been fun to see how this would've played out in the anime
Fr it’d be a solid continuation
Trunks laid his hands on himself
lol
what if goku was born in any ssj form
Just started one with Goku being born as a ssj
i thought the namekian dragon balls reactive after a few months
Usually a year or if they don’t use all the wishes then it would be less
i thought the namekian dragon balls only remain inert for a nemekian year which is 4 months
I did may have forget that fact
amazing video
Thanks!
You welcome This is my alternative account
Bro base cabba is one Shotting bra 😭
CABBBAAA I NEED THIS
the axes must be throwing axes...i assume
They could be
What if Goku had the potential of Janemba
I don’t really think it would be much as Janemba is really outclasses
Are there plans of doing my what if idea
At first I thought this wouldn't make sense as many scenarios like this just feels forced and off the topic of dragon ball but this was actually good
I’m glad you liked the scenario
your plan was to get another subscriber?? it worked...
also i leave this idea:
what if frieza was sent to earth??
(the idea is king cold gets overthrown by another member of the family(you know who) and he sends frieza as far away as he can to save him, of course goku would arrive too later on)
I’m glad you like the content and your idea seems very interesting
This was extremely good! How about being that Goku is so powerful that he spars with Daishinkan and thinks he no longer is needed as a protector (which is a ridiculous mindset, now having knowledge of the multiverse and other dimensions that can harbor threats), that he spends his life in the Dragon Dimension or visiting The Omni King by also including his wife Chi-Chi by easily having her restored to the prime of her youth eternally and made immortal ( Dragons in there realm, Grand Priest. Super Dragon Ball wish etc.. ..), and spend his ageless eternally" retired" status with his #1 supporter that he neglected, abandoned and left with no provisions ( never taking on the responsibilities of a man, husband or father)?!? If he can become so Broken & OP that he can't participate in The Tournament of Power, he should use this time to not just spend with Chi-Chi, but also visit and resurrect Raditz, Bardock and Gine!! IJS 🤷🏿♂️
I’m glad you enjoy the series!
Went from beerus shows up to ultra instinct level threats in 15 minutes? Tf???
thats how strong Goku has gotten
What If Cell Wasn't Evil?, What If Chichi Had Beast Mode (Ft Chichi Black), What If Future Trunks Found Namek?, What If Bardock Escaped To Vampa?, What If Dragonballs Couldn't Bring Back The Dead?, What If Goku Replaced Beerus As God Of Destruction, What If Vegeta Replaced Beerus As God Of Destruction, What If Buu Was Never Evil?, What If Gokus Pod Was Sent To The Galactic Patrol?(Ft Earth Broly And Paragus), What If Earthling Discovered Gravity Training In Og Dragonball?, What If Videl Never Stopped Training? (Insane Potential Pan), What If Hercule Started Training With Gohan And Videl? , What If Cooler Was Beerus Apprentice Destroyer?
What If King Cold Never Discovered Planet Vegeta? ,What If Frieza Raised Broly?, What If Raditz Was An Elite Saiyan?, What If Goku And Raditz Were Born As Elite Saiyans?
That is definitely a lot of suggestions!
Yea but tbh not many of those make sense or put impact on story
are the axes ranked?
magical,godly,mythical.legendary,unique,set items,modified,socketed?
Ranked by super saiyans
Honestly all of this would've been more interesting if Goku had stayed gone, there's some points I don't think make much sense, but bringing Goku back really takes away from potential narrative.
Real, and I think it would’ve been more interesting if the ssj god ritual just didn’t happen, with some people going the ssj4 route and sole fighters figuring out god ki
Originally I planned to keep him gone but there were points I just felt like he was needed
@@WrathfulSaiyan I don't see how when Vegeta can fulfill his role just fine, as was literally what Vegeta's role was at the end of GT. This undermines that point a lot, I think. Goku passed that guardian of Earth torch to Vegeta for a reason.
you know at the end of GT there'd be way way stronger than super you know from Omega shenron existing the little universe was shaking you know if Omega shinwon didn't die the universe would have ended because of his power that's how strong they were
Which is why I made ssj5 Goku stronger than beerus
In reality, if they fix the future goku timeline, it fixes the trucks timeline.
No since they are both different timelines
Realistically This Goku Would Actually Be As Strong as The Grand Priest but his Power would Be Limited as the dragon realm Is almost the same realm Zeno resides in the future timeline as he has ascended into what you call Nirvana(Perfect Being above everything) so his power would be capped if he is not in that realm.
That is a huge statement for this Goku
@@WrathfulSaiyan no It's not lol. He literally already Transcended Into Godhood he fused With The dragon balls Too.
His Base Tanked a Negative karma ball from omega shenron the same omega shenron that is atleast 10x stronger than UFPSSJ 4 Goku casually, the same Goku that is Probably as Strong as Super saiyan God Goku in the Super Manga In Base (Multiply that By atleast 16 Billion or 2.2 Million if you are a downplayer.for SSJ 4 Multiplier)
And you add SSJ5 To that which is like a SSJ4 Fusion multiplier on top of SSJ4 He Bodying Beerus Especially if he stacks UI On top Beerus Would've disappeared with 1 punch lol.
Who about what if Goku was born in DXD and had a heram
Ayooooo
are the axes personalized for everyone?
Yes
The GT glazing is insane
Aye I like super more than gt to be fair
@@WrathfulSaiyan imma be honest, the things i didnt like were the mixed transformations and the part where Majuub beat Moro in his best form (when he was equal to blue)
@@WrathfulSaiyan Also, you made Goku way too Op bro
First video lol. Watch it when I wake up tomorrow, swear
lol okay
What if Wrathful Saiyan was in gt?
Would be a cool what if!
@@WrathfulSaiyan 👀
Over all, pretty good. I do disagree with how strong Jiren was though. He is certainly very powerful, but Super Broly or Blue Vegeta, with the x4000 multiplier of SSJ4, would each thrash him on their own.
Do have a point there ngl they could wipe the floor with him
This would be many years in the future so Jiren could very well be even stronger than this what if
SS4 does not make you 4000x more powerful.
@@Tx-qk3zj it may not be exactly 4000x stronger than base, we don’t know the exact number and never will, but it is still magnitudes stronger than ssj3, which is a 400x multiplier.
@@Friendly_G but Wrathful makes a point to say that all other universes are unchanged, exactly as they were in canon. And canon Jiren would never last against this what-if’s Vegeta or Broly
What if Goku was in Naruto Shipuden
Maybe I could do one day
What if Sonic the Hedgehog is in dragon ball series would be better.
Goku vs evil goku reference!!!!
Ayeeeee
what type of axes are they using?
Diamond enchanted axe
I'm at the point were freiza and cell are revived and im imagining
*Frieza and cell stepping off a ship and demanding to know were is Goku*
Krillin: look we don't know were he is he could be dead
Cell: you mean to tell me we were revived just just for Goku to be possibly dead?
Krillin: yep
*Krillin gets kicked and almost dies*
*Krillin owed counter counts to 40*
krillin: oh COME ON
(If someone wants I'll continue this some kind of Parel timeline*
You should continue this, it will be funny
@@WrathfulSaiyan I watched to The end good story
Dragon ball Z abridged reference.
To my calculations we can agree 99:59:59 was the best part 🤓☝️
Lollll
@@WrathfulSaiyanTYSM FOR RESPONDING ☺️☺️☺️
please answer me about the axes issue
I ammmm
you forgot about normal trunks and goten u keep saying future trunks still a good video i watched it all
I didn’t forget about those two I just ended up focused them a bit less
Aren’t goku black and future trunks in the same time line originally?
No cause trunks’ Goku is dead so Goku black cannot be that Goku
No the zamasu’s who didn’t get goku blacks body is the one from future trunks timeline because his timeline doesn’t have a goku anymore
@@WrathfulSaiyanquick question I’m half way in the video how does zamasu discover goku
@@WrathfulSaiyanoh nevermind I saw it now
Moroe is like Merilyn Monroe
Lolll
wouldn’t ssj4 god be blue instead of red?
I would say there could be ssj4 god red and ssj4 god blue
all the gt characters are like trillions of times stronger than their super versions so I feel like it ok to assume that vegeta would solo beerus
Ehhh not really, the gt versions are stronger than super versions but not but a crazy large amount where they can solo beerus at the start
My only issue with it is Broly. Maybe you addressed it and i missed it but isnt the original Z Broly Movie canon? So this broly would mever exist right?
Z broly is not canon dbs broly is
@WrathfulSaiyan z broly is canon in GT though. All the movies are canon with GT
Bro you should have let Goku master his jltra instinct with the grand priest and not only that , Goku should have combined his mastered ultra instinct with ssj 5, surpassing Whis.
I think it would be hard to make Goku be able to surpass whis
How would goku and freiza come back with the dragon ball if they died in hell. Cause goku told vegeta in the buu ark if he was destroyed while he’s already dead he couldn’t be brought back and ceased to exist .
Cell* and Freiza*
I may have forgotten that frieza and cell died in gt...
@@WrathfulSaiyan They didn't die. They just got frozen in the depth of hell. Like they tried to do to Goku. The only reason that didn't work is Goku was still alive and his body heat was what melted the ice.
Ssjb for future trunks would just be false super sayian on roids
Lowkey True
did vegeta dirty
lol I did..
super 4 is literally league upon leagues above s3 and you giving beerus a little to much steam at only 40% power to deal with it if im honest
Maybe but again we don’t know Beerus’s full power. He may have been lying when telling Goku how much power he used against him in battle of gods
Make More
Will do
moro not morow
and the tone goes to the 1rst syllabus Mo and ro
Monroe
@WrathfulSaiyan Monroe Marilyn is another "thing".
'If GT was canon'
Gt is in fact non canon
@@WrathfulSaiyan Ik
11:37 "Gohan wasn't so sure about bringing his and Vegetas daughter..." oh my, Vegeta and Gohan? I bet Vegeta secretly is a pillow prince 😏
😭😭😭
why majuub axed elder Moori?
He needed to axe him
@@WrathfulSaiyan probably he needed to be axed,syntax
I like ssj 3,4,5 more then ssj god, ssjb, and ui
That is not crazy to say
- What If Goku Can Adapt Like Mahoraga
- What If Goku Was Half Kryptonian
- What If Goku Had Timeskip
- What If Goku Had Friezas Potential
- What If Goku Stayed In SSG
- What If Goku Broke His limiter (Saitama)
- What If Goku Achieved SS4 in Cell Saga
- What If Goku Was Intellectual
- What If Goku Was Lssj
salad sayian and major dragon do these what ifs
What if the sayians kept their tail, the rest are the same on major dragon channel
besides What if goku was smart he will always stay dumb
Some interesting what ifs
@@WrathfulSaiyanwhat if gt goku becomes evil kakarot and gets an android arm and goes to super time line by some chain of events
Vamos bills siente la
E S E N C I A
Yea lol
What the hell is golden cell
Cell that is golden