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Just a fraction of the way through, but I can tell you put a lot of effort and research into this video. As a misunderstood goth in my group, I think some people I know need to see it 😅😅 (although, it doesn't happen in the media as much but some friends will make annoying jokes anyway)
This is definitely one of my new fav videos on UA-cam. I’ve seen plenty of videos on how columbine has effected the alternative community but nothing (that I’ve seen) goes into as much detail:3 I will HAPPILY share this video with like everyone ever tbh LOLZ… I also put the link in my insta bio. THIS IS A BANGER!!🗣️
This video made me feel seen as someone who got bullied for "looking like" a shooter, in reality I just had bad mental health and not a lot of friends, thanks man
Speaking of ways to support you, will you ever have more shirts for sale in the future? I have your album but I wanna physically rep your stuff, too. ✌
Sophie Lancaster was murdered for dressing goth. I went to school with people who were jumped and beaten bloody for looking emo. The treatment of alternative culture in the media caused casualties.
I just looked up the Sophie Lancaster case and it's unbelievably sad. Those teenage boys who looked like such 'normal' English kids were the ones mindlessly killing someone for looking some way. I'm an emo kid and got jumped together with my then boyfriend (we were 18) on a train while coming back from a concert. These three drunk guys decided we didn't look normal and one said we 'needed Allah'. One of the other guys said 'let's f*ck up the dude and we can f*ck the chick'. My boyfriend and I fought them and sprinted off the train and had to spend the night on a train station because that was our last train. We never regretted it though. These guys had pure evil in their eyes, they would have killed us if they had gotten the chance.
I remember reading about that in Kerrang a few weeks later. It was terrible and a new foundation was born from that tragedy, to protect young people from violent bullies.
Thanks to the Satanic Panic of the 90's, things like being Goth and liking metal were (and still now are to some extent) considered a cultural taboo even though both are just harmless hobbies/likings
Satanic Panic was the 80s not the 90s, what the hell are you even talking about. The original School Shooters, the Columbine Massacre duo, were goth-adjacent. That's where it comes from. End of discussion. You can end the video now.
I don’t really think anyone considers liking metal is to be a taboo. Most people I know are fine with me liking that music. Though they do think dressing in a goth style is weird.
@@DrewKane There were 2. The 80s one centered around Dungeons and Dragons. The 90s one centered around the movie Dogma. Source: I'm 50, I lived through both.
A goth is far more likely to pull a kitten out of an alley and take it home, then we are to actively pursue violence... We would debate you in philosophy, until we are blue in the face, quite the accomplishment in Harlequin white make up I tell you... long before we would resort to violence. Goths are just the other... easy to blame because we are easily identified. "But you can take it off"... yah we could, but why would any goth change who we are, because some else's ignorance causes them to hate us. Besides goth culture is about the music... the look just makes it easier to find each other. And it is nice putting on a black 3 piece suit, top hat, cane and some fine shoes... it looks and feels great
@@KMFDM242 no little boy, it didn't. I was there in the 90s. Goth was Switchblade Symphony, Diva Destruction, and Faith and The Muse. You know, like actual Goth music. Manson, NIN, and FMFDM were industrial. Poser.
I actually notice massive changes towards how people treat me based on how I'm dressed. I've been in the darkwave and industrial scene for decades. During highschool I was a goth too and my nickname there was Columbine, which at my highschool reuinion everyone still called me that. So it's hard to escape the hate somedays, but w/e they are not worth my time or energy. If I'm the nicest person I can be and I dress gothy, everyone thinks I'm giant piece of shit and they treat me like a leper. If I dress like I would for corporate meetings, people think I'm some kind of expert on everything around me and the nicest person despite me being a raging asshole. I'm not friendly in those environments and even less so around HR. If I dress like I do when I'm working everyone thinks I need to be locked in a mental hospital because i dress like an organic chemist. If I dress in drag everyone just calls me hairy Tim Curry, which to me is a compliment. I find it all to be stupid though I do like being compared to Tim Curry, I would like to wear colored nail polish more often since I use it to make sure my hands arent melting off from chemical spills or an organochem's passion project to make a bioweapon despite it being a paint lab and not a biology lab AND I like being connected to my music scene and the friends I've made there that are still some of the best people I know nearly 20 years later. We don't hang out anymore because we all live in different parts of the world now but they are still the only people who bother to send out holiday cards and actually check up on others. Goths are legit the nicest people I know other than my sysadmin who is borderline into the scene himself with all the weird edm he listens to. Also really loves the cure... Which explains a lot of things. Note to HR: Stop harassing my sysadmin and lab team, I will put your cars into the lake for real next time and not just remove the wheels and battery.
@@angusmcnay5449 I work with organic chemists as an OSHA compliance officer and pseudo-southern. I can't not be extremely verbose or take up half your day by discussing something inconsequential with you. It's just how we are
@@angusmcnay5449 why are you being so rude about it? this person was just talking about how this video's topic is personally relevant to them. who cares if they were a bit wordy?
My dad and stepmother are sorta goths (more like 'are' but toned it down with age) and I'm glad it feels like it's really in right now, same with metal of every flavour. It makes me happy; People should be cliquey and niche if they want to be, life's too short to purposefully be an NPC.
I wasn't a Goth in the 90s, I was too self conscious to dress like that. I switched schools over 10 times as a kid, and moved to the Bay area when I entered Junior High. I didn't know how to make friends, I was a nerdy, scrawny kid, and everyone picked on me. I found the Goth kids intimidating at first, until they invited me to sit with them because they noticed I was sitting alone. People always saw them as these cynical and mean or violent kids, but I'll never forget that they were the only ones that offered any compassion. I'm older now, but it taught me to never judge a person by appearances. Throughout my life the outcasts, goths, punks and weirdos were some of the nicest, welcoming, community-driven people I've known.
I totally agree! I was also like you but met a Goth guy who turned out to be my best friend ever. He changed my life. I was accepted for the first time ever. It was a glorious experience.
It always did bug me that the media made goths this horrific thing. Football hooliganism was way more rampant within the UK, but no it’s people who enjoy listening to sisters of mercy or the cure as you mentioned, it’s mental
Yeah, that's one of the things I think he kinda oversimplified- the problem really wasn't football hooligans getting drunk and shouting, it's that you'd then have a bunch of really drunk guys after the game picking fights with just about anyone, and then rioting and looting stores. I don't think that what he mentioned in any way fixed that problem, but that's a matter of social problems and solutions that unfortunately wasn't really implemented. From what I understand, a large part of the problem was that attending football matches stopped being a family affair for some reason, and because of that there weren't a bunch of older men there to sort out the aimless young single men when they got a bit out of line, and so you combine that with some other factors and all of a sudden, what I described happened.
When I was in high school I got called into the office because there where reports of me “planning violence against the sch00l” and I found out later that a teacher made that after I made a presentation basically exactly like this video 😂
My first day at work after the olympic opening ceremony I mentioned how excited I was that Gojira performed and the guy I was talking to looked me dead and the eyes and said, "but the whole thing was Satannic!?". These people are so stupid I didn't even know how to respond.
needed a video like this. people were ALWAYS calling me a school shooter back in school for the way i looked, so im glad someone made an analysis on this. cant wait to watch!
I'm grateful that you're talking about this. Graduated in 2021, started getting into metal back in 6th/7th grade and before then I was already seen as the "weird quiet girl." All throughout middle school and highschool I got called a school shooter and satanist, people made self harm jokes, even had some kids approach me and ask me in a mocking tone if I sacrificed animals. One girl looked at me with a horrified expression the first day of class when she realized I was assigned the seat next to her, at the end of the semester she ended up saying "you're actually nice despite how you dress." So much bullying and harassment and even people being afraid to sit next to me in class all because of some stupid moral panic that painted alternative folks as dangerous. I'm glad that the bs stereotypes the media created are starting to die down, I'm hopeful that whenever I have kids they won't have to go through the same harassment while growing up that I and so many others did. Thank you for covering this subject, the internet isn't always a nice place but one good thing about it is we can use it dispell the misconceptions and stereotypes that have plagued our subcultures for far too long.
I legitimately had a very similar experience. Graduated HS in 2022. I got into Metallica back in 6th grade, and my "friends" ended up being like "it's a bad influence" or "it's Satanic." This was on top of them joining in with bullies on other stuff and seeing a correlation between my developing depression and the music I was using to cope rather than their actions. I had people call me Satanic after I lost those "friends" because then I got into death metal to cope with the anger. I was also called a school shooter cuz I wore black to blend in and had no friends. My siblings are 4 years younger than me (twins) and one of them is into some of the music I'm into, and funnily enough, they've had only a little bit of bullying around the subject of music and dressing alternative. It's crazy how much changed in that time.
@@gabeberger803 I lost "friends" as well over it, people freaking out about how I "wasn't myself anymore" and "are influenced by the devil" when the music literally helped me get through things I was struggling with. People love to jump to "you're only depressed because you're too morbid and into that demonic stuff" when the real reason a lot of us love the music is because we already struggled before we discovered it, but now we've found a music and subculture that makes us feel less alone. I'm glad your younger family members aren't going through as much bs as we and folks around our age went through.
ive had the same issues back in like 2022 and it kinda died entirely this year no one looks at me weird and i have not had any problems ive always been that one kid who listens to death metal and goth music and stuff like that and alot more people are cool about it now i think the worst thing that happened is one time me and my freinds where told we could not go to our usual meeting spot at school (we are a group of like 6 alt kids so) bc some one made a threat to the school
You have no idea, just how f*cked up things got and I was in Canada. I was in High-school in the late 90s, four of my friends were arrested because walking while goth, and smoking in a graveyard. Charged with attempted arson. The picnic basket and parasols screamed active pyros. I got off the bus at a train station, I was detained, they broke my headphones, discman (cd player), took my CD book and never gave it back. Ripped my clothes, took my sewing and leatger working tools. They never compensated, returned or even apologized for stealing and breaking my stuff. Oh sorry the police call, it confiscation not blatant theft. I got introduced to how police use phone books because walking while goth, oh right I had a skateboard at tge time as well, I can't skate. I was holding it for a friend that had run into the train station for cigarettes. I had a cop follow me from the train station to the club one night, that one was funny. The school threatened to expel us if we wore makeup to school... we asked would they only be targeting us or did that apply to every chick in the joint as well. My locker was raided so often I just started carrying all my books all the time. I left a go F yourself note in the locker. A friend got jumped by 3 jocks after class one day because he used a Manson song for an English assignment. Our police liason did nothing, so they kept bullying him. Eventually the pig did something, only after the 4tb or 5th time, only because they happened to break his arm and his parents got involved. I was stabbed because walking while goth. I can keep going. I have been a goth since 86. The 96 till about 05 window was just brutal. Then they went after the emo kids and mall goths. Ugh.
I was in high school in 2002 when there was a shooting at a high school in Erfurt here in Germany. German media went all in on blaming the shooting on Marilyn Manson and Slipknot as I remember. I was really big into those bands at the time and wore their shirts to school every day. Teachers felt the need to put me on a watch list of sorts and many students avoided me like the plague (though I was also bullied a bit less, yay!). It was just all so stupid. I'm just glad there aren't any moral panics any more these days...
As a teenage "goth" looking girl back in early 2000 small town in an Eastern european country, even i heard that Manson had "corrupted the brains of young people into becoming killers with his lyrics" and felt a bit worried having his poster up on my wall next to a shirtless ville vallo (dont judge lol). This video brought up a very vivid memory of little old me thinking maybe i WAS a "wrongun" even though i was objectively such a good kid looking back. I just liked the music and the aesthetic. What a bunch of nonsense, I'm amazed at how quick and far it spread even without social media or even the internet mostly.
Elder goth here. I grew up in the 80s. I am also a nerd. I loved dungeons and dragons. I can tell you what I wasn't doing playing DND. I wasn't having sex, getting drunk or doing drugs. It was some of the most wholesome moments of my teen years. I had to sneak around to play it in the way other kids were sneaking around to party. In fact I used the I was partying excuse to get out of the trouble I would have been in when they busted me sneaking back into the house one morning. I was drug into a preachers office when I drew an ankh on my trapper keeper. I was playing the devil's game. Satanic panic was everywhere. It was so stupid. I mean my parents were relieved I was just out drinking and not playing the devil's game lol.
literally. my dad used to not care about transgenders, he wouldn’t give a shit until like 2022, then he became a hardcore conservative, consumed conservative media, and told me he was scared of me turning transgender 💀💀
i'm in a crustbag video, mom i made it !!!!! ( upper middle at 0:46) no fr I got so excited to see my picture being used in your video, I really appreciate you defending us goths so hard man lots of love :')
As a 50 year old Aussie, who identified as a Goth back in the day. I fully remember the moral panic over playing D & D, dressing in black, listening to alternative music, and just being "OTHER". We were blamed for everything that went wrong, that couldn't be explained; If someone's cat went missing... "Oh, I heard that it was those Goth kids using it as a sacrifice to the Devil!"... Umm, no. 1. We as a group, couldn't even contemplate hurting any animal. 2. To believe in the Devil, you first need to believe in God,(Which we didn't). 3. We were generally so stoned, it was difficult to get off the couch! 😅😂😂😂
In high school, I remember I was bullied all the time for being introverted and just generally quiet. I didn't even wear any sort of black clothing at the time, I was just a quiet, shy person. I still am. I remember my own friends at the time compared me to a school shooter and they said its because I liked typically alternative musicians. This was in 2017. I really hope I don't give off that vibe anymore like I apparently did in high school. Because I would never hurt anymore, I would literally cry and feel like complete shit if I knew I hurt someone or their feelings.
I had the school shooter moniker for a while and from your case it sounds about similar to mine; they had a weird line of thinking "the quiet kid is hiding something, they're gonna kill us all one day!" Just for being introverted, people think you're gonna just snap one day etc. But alternative music should have nothing to do with it imo It's the same category as video games ..people play COD, are they gonna shoot up the school? (Lol, probably not) I've been listening to increasingly heavier music over the years and well ..I'm no angrier nor any bit violent from it 😂
I recall almost being lynched at Lyon’s the night of Columbine. I always wore almost floor length trench coats, I was a Viking Goth, I didn’t do black hair. Earlier that day one of my younger friends came over to ‘inform me’ about the school incident. ‘For some reason, IDK why, I figured you should know.’ He told me. Ok we were living in the Bay Area, California. I had canceled cable tv due to a repetitive billing error, so I didn’t care about tv, and the internet was not something I’d do all day. Later another friend suggested going to Lyons, as it was getting late and nobody had eaten yet. So what did I do? I said sure, let’s go eat. I donned my long black coat and headed to Lyons. As soon as the last customers left, the tweaker employees locked the doors and perched around our table like gargoyles. They told us we could smoke inside if we want. I’m feeling something isn’t quite right, but hey! If they could see me now SMOKING IN A PUBLIC PLACE….. Then they just focused on ME…. Yeah here it comes. Have I ever been to Colorado? No. Do I always dress like this? Pretty much. I can’t even remember how we got out of that, but it took me a minute to realize, they THOUGHT they were going to lynch ME and make headlines… be the ‘hero’s’ or some stupid thing. I used to teach my younger friends about nature and spirituality, I helped found an animal rescue, I taught yoga, Pilates, and healthier cooking. I even taught several ways to remove spiders from your home without injuring them! Like I’m totally 180• from a school s h o o T e r! I’m trying to help the younger kids to communicate better with their parents, and be more forgiving, understanding etc! My theory is if there were more people that took a few minutes out with the younger generations, share some wisdom and save them years of anguish and making mistakes, MAYBE the horror of Columbine would’ve never happened in the first place! In conclusion it has recently been coming up in my feed about the loss of Third Places. THAT is quite a massive error on the part of city planning commissions across the nation! I realize my generation HAD Third Spaces, and they vanished. We’re used to the mat being ripped out from under us, we keep it pushin. However, I just today realized how awful it is, that not only are we neglecting to listen to the younger people when they say they feel isolated, we have forgotten WE, ourselves ever HAD THIRD SPACES. The younger kids really never had that! Not only are important classes being ripped out of the school systems, classes that YOU NEED FOR LIFE, but also the creative classes! That’s just unacceptable! Again, I apologize to the Z’s and Alphas, even Millennials I think might’ve gotten the short end of that stick, cuz I’m not exactly sure when it happened. THIRD SPACES ARE SO IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE’S DEVELOPMENT! I’m not sure WHY this isolating situation is being inflicted on you kids, but I want to point out, YOU can and SHOULD approach your CITY PLANNING COMMISSIONS, even consider getting employment there. It never was mentioned as an option when I was younger, even though as a kid, I loved designing cities. You have a right to voice your opinion, and make suggestions to any changes you’d like to see happen. I hope you’ll seriously consider this option. If I remember correctly, Columbine actually happened once they started shutting down OUR own cafes and other local third spaces. Hopefully, if you’ve made it this far in my post, you’ll consider showing up at City Hall, City Planning meetings, or places of proposed new developments, and WEIGH IN! The breath of fresh air might be just what our country needs! I’d also like to let you know, yes, we see the idiots and hypocrites. I am so sorry you have to deal with that, as if trying to survive in this world needs any added stress, grab one of your elders, and tell them HEY I NEED SOME ASSISTANCE. You might be surprised… ✨🥰✨
Hey, think on the bright side! At least basic science and healthcare is no longer considered “satanic”. Getting sick isn’t seen as being punished by God anymore which is good. Pretty sad that it took a long time for people to figure that stuff out but at least we figured it out and we don’t have to worry about being outcasted or even killed for simply not wanting to have a cold.
I was born, raised and still live in Liverpool in England, almost all of the victims of the Hillsborough disaster were liverpool fc fans, to this day it is mentioned absolutely everywhere in my city, almost every single thing related to liverpool fc mentions and pays respect to the 97 victims and people still talk about it often. It, alongside a whole load of other events/factors, helped contribute to the overall communal distrust of the government and authority (especially the tory/conservative government in the uk) that our city holds. The point im trying to get at is the effects of moral panic leave scars that are felt for generations that have such a strong domino effect that the people who are hurt by them dont forget what happened and that anger and resentment does not go away, as their kids will remember and their grandkids will remember and so on. Unfortunately that does not make them immune to being influenced by moral panic themselves, as seen by the disgusting anti-immigration far right riots that took place here a few weeks ago that resulted in my own neighbourhood being torn apart and the local library being burnt down. Its just incredibly fucking frustrating and makes me uncontrollably angry that even people who have been effected by the worst aspects of moral panic can fall victim to it themselves so easily. Social media has given the most hateful and evil people a megaphone who manipulate the working class into believing that their problems are caused by innocent marginalised groups who are just minding their own business. It makes my blood boil.
This video really hits home as a "goth" person (Industrial & metal music nerd, always wear black, etc...). Also probably my favorite Crustbag video to date. Well done sir! Can't wait for the next video!
You're completely right in the whole thing of "goth" being this largely undefined and completely misunderstood area by a lot of people, and it has even pervaded nowadays. In my sophomore year of high school, just three years ago, in my science class there was this guy who was constantly making remarks towards me about how I "shouldn't target him" or whatever, meanwhile nothing about it fits any sort of frequent descriptions of either actual shooters, or the media's sensationalized portrayal of them. I wore a black shirt on a nearly daily basis, but that's quite literally it, and even that was enough for me to be painted as a threat by someone and allowing them some reason to mock me.
I was outwardly Goth throughout the late 80’s to the early 2000’s. I was in college when columbine happened and me and my friends were harassed and targeted by others. It was scary and depressing. We are literally the nicest people for the most part.
I think the video nasty panic also has at least something to do with Ted Bundy, who very specifically chose to have his only pre-execution interview with a fundamentalist Christian preacher and spent most of the time saying “now I’m not saying I did this cause of corn…. But if I didn’t have access as a child I probably wouldn’t have gotten addicted and then become a serial unaliver” which was categorically false because every time he was arrested, none of his possessions included anything a normal person would call “corn”
One of the things I love about this is, I'm more than twice your age, I've been saying for almost all of my life the same things you are, but your touch points are such very recent history it gives me the giggles. "Unironically wishing they could go back to the good old days" and then listing a series of bands that I don't consider being from "the good old days" until I stop and think about how LONG I've been listening to them and fuck me, I'm old...
so i wanted to leave a comment because i'm a psych undergrad and i debated for awhile between doing social research on what makes a school shooter and clinical research on cluster b personality disorders (i ultimately decided on the latter), and i feel the two have become related. painting school shooters as just "bullying victims out for revenge" and/or "mentally disturbed" individuals creates an anger in me that i'll never be able to put into words. i've struggled with both SEVERLY, as have many others. the stigmatizaion of "scary" disorders (such as personality disorders, ocd, or bipolor) in this way creates a never-ending cycle where in individuals with said disorders have less access to good treatment, which then leads to being a danger to others or themselves. I think it's so important when we talk about things like school shootings or DV to not blame it on a person's mental state and rather hold the person themselves accountable for their own actions.
The sad thing is that many people who aknowledge, laugh at and cringe at the moral panics in the 80s and 90s, somehow can't get enough of the anti-woke coolaid.
i was a teen in the 2000s and the amount of bullying i suffered just for being goth is almost funny to think about it today. It came to a point that I had my bag searched because a dude in my class told the monitor I was a school shooter. They only found questionable yaoi fan art and a some dope ass mixtapes.
The only thing I can figure out is that, because the Columbine murderers listened to KMFDM, and industrial culture runs parallel to goth culture, anything that could be interpreted as one of those things became associated with school shootings. And it probably didn't help that a lot of rivetheads and other edgy folks kind of leaned into the aesthetic, both intentionally and unintentionally: camo, military cargos, trench coats, etc.
Goths tended to buy thrift clothes and army surplus was even sold at Banana Republic in the 80s. I wore a trench every day to school my senior year. So glad I was through high school before this happened, but we were still bullied. I was surprised that KMFDM was mentioned…because their music is so underground compared to MM.
when I was in school, I get shit like "he's got that school shooter fit on today" or "hey be nice to him he may aim at you tomorrow" literally only because I wore black shirts of like nerdy stuff I was into and bands I liked, slightly comforting to know I didn't suffer alone because of that
I grew up as an "emo kid". Makeup, straightened hair, skinny HotTopic jeans, the whole 9 yards. I know full well what it's like to be bullied and called shit like "school shooter" even though that couldn't be farther from the truth. Even teachers treat you like shit. I didn't even finish high school because they were just so done with me. Being a high school emo kid in 2009 sucked ass. Now, as a 31-year-old, I look back and think about how fucked up it is to call someone that. How fucked up it is to even leave it to chance that someone would do something like that. Again, Never in a million years would I have ever done anything even close to that, but on their part, I wouldn't even chance it. Leave people alone, don't pick on the goth/emo kids. Thank you for making this video dude. I feel seen.
I just recently discovered this channel but I'm a huge fan. This guy is both funny and very smart and manages to make super entertaining videos that not only are educational as well, but also are highly convenient for sending to clueless family members who keep asking you 'Why are you wearing so much black, do you hate everyone? I'm scared of you'.
As a goth kid, thanks for helping stick up for us! Means a lot, even if the issue is slowly fading. Moral panics are definitely a wild sociological phenominon, but yeah, they don't ever help. Loved the video. Stay safe, man, never know if (insert marginalized innocent group of people literally doing nothing but minding their own fucking business) will (insert genuinely huge social issue that has so many intersecting parts that one group cannot possibly be blamed without also analyzing why exactly that group may have done so.)
Thank you for this! I wore mostly black(still do) and dyed my hair black starting in middle school...I had no friends and was a severely depressed, bullied outcast. After the school thing happened, my peers and school staff thought I was going to do the same thing. I was a tiny, harmless, helpless 13 year old girl with crippling anxiety who never talked, wore black and listened to my discman all the time. I didn't do anything besides look a certain way, get bullied and not interact, yet was institutionalized even though I feel bad if I squish a bug ugh. I loathe labels and assumptions and society...
This video was so well said and articulated, and I'm glad you didn't hold anything back in this one. It's frustrating to see history repeat itself again and again over the years and watch millions of people panic over the 1000th thing that they don't understand because it's new and different to them, therefore meaning that it must be ruining society or "the youth". We're just going through another version of this now, which feels like something that has been building up over 40-something years and has grew into a widespread movement of crazily angry and gullible people who are too stubborn to view things in a different lens. Yet every time a new version of this type of moral panic happens, people act like it's brand new and has never happened before. Well maybe this flavor of it hasn't happened before, but it sure does feel familiar. I'm the same age as you and the older I get the harder it's become for me to trust people, knowing that they could be just as suspectable for falling for this stuff as anyone else. But videos like this help remind me that there's still some sanity out there.
THANK YOU. im so happy someone is finally talking about this because i have personally dealt with the stigma the media left on "alternative/gothi(c)" culture. the whole "sch00l sh00ter" & "satan worshipping" bs made me stop going to in-person school because of the bullying the media brought amongst (smfh). all the name calling and finger pointing in our politics reminds me of those times i was in HS, like are we really NOT going to grow up from that?? the way they (certain political party..) address """ISSUES""" in this day in age, is disgusting ... i will always be so disappointed how weve managed to loop back and find a group of people to project hate to. there is never accountability.
loved the video! you're one of my favorite creators on this platform btw. i've been fascinated by the satanic panic for a while now, read a little bit about the goth blaming while researching columbine but it was great to see more on the topic. i find it weirdly funny how here in central europe, decades after both of these took place, my religious parents voiced 'concerns' about my music taste using rhetoric literally straight out of the US in the 80s. on another note, one correction i have to make: the columbine perpetrators could actually be considered 'alternative', even beyond your loose definition. if you look at videos of them in school, prior to the massacre, they mostly wear black, with band shirts and military elements, they were also known to be fans of industrial music, especially kmfdm. certainly they stood out, although they had nothing to do with goth culture specifically (doesn't mean the panic would've been anymore justified if 'rivethead' was used as a buzzword instead). about the bullying part, they were both perpetrators (specifically dylan klebold got in trouble for bullying younger students, interesting how he's often painted as the 'innocent and misguided one') and possibly victims (there are conflicting reports as to what extent though). all in all, this doesn't take away from the main point of the video. the perpetrators' worldview and obsession with weapons certainly places them close ideologically to other people guilty of similar violent acts. the scapegoating was absolutely horrible and unjustified. and when it comes to kmfdm, it's quite tragic how their satire of certain themes was completely twisted by the killers and their copycats. (edit: i can already see i made some errors, sorry. english isn't my first language)
Fantastic video, dude! I think being able to explain something well without getting too far into the nitty gritty is a skill, and you've absolutely got it. 👍
When I was like 15 I got beaten bloody till 3 ribs were broken all because I was goth in a Midwest Highschool. It still sickens me that after that most of the school thought that I was more “weird” and “evil” than the guys who sent me to the hospital.
As a 38 year old black goth guy who got into the scene in the early 2000s it's nice when people ask me about my Lebanon Hanover or Selofan shirt. We used to get a lot of mean looks from people when I was a kid. Especially here in rural Va.
This is video is so well done. From the research to the editing. And as a member of the goth subculture, I really appreciate how you mentioned that through the panic about goths in the 90s, which lead to media attention from people who already didn’t understand alternative subcultures, it made the image of goth as a whole become watered down to how normies view goths: black nail polish and angry music. And that superficial image that developed is part of the reason goth is so misconstrued today as well, by people who know nothing about its history or the music and strip it of the things that actual goths love about it. Loved the video man, great work!
Columbine also helped make gamers out to be violent psychos! I think one of them made a custom map of their school, which I believe the dude at Virginia Tech also did but in cs. A pretty normal thing for anyone starting to create their own custom maps. It's mind blowing to me how the Columbine shooting was blamed on these unrelated things when the shooters had a criminal history and one of them even got in trouble for having a website where he wrote about wanting another student dead, it's even more mind blowing how this continues to happen.
THANK-YOU for this video!👌🏽 Yes to everything you have said! I have felt the same way my whole life! It is so nice to see so many diverse communities represented and talked about. I appreciate that you discuss discrimination against goths, LGBTQIA2S+ people, and many others. Also, I had to mention that you are lucky if you are privileged enough to not have to think/talk about politics! It is necessary to understand the intersections of oppressions like these. You are well informed, and I'm glad you are making vids like this! You now have a new fan!
I always thought the stupidest thing about the columbine panic was that there was actually a band that the shooters were fans of, kmfdm. There’s pictures/videos of them wearing their merch and everything and you could even make connections between their lyrics and the shooting if you really wanted to. Just exposes how manufactured it truly was, since Marilyn Manson would just have been the guy most people had heard of.
Makes me sad as a fan of the artist actually. This was the same time some of KMFDM's former members had a falling out, leading to En Esch and Gunter Schultz's departure, and Sascha Kontiesko and Tim Skold forming MDFMK, which became short-lived. This lead to Lucia Caferilli being gifted as a permanent member as KMFDM returned in 2002.
This video explained it perfectly. I was born in '92 in Colorado and grew up mostly as a Metal Head, but was labeled a school shooter and Goth most of my up bringing. Christian churches used to protest and show up at my High School ,especially a very vocal prominent church who shall not be named (WBC), spouting satanic panic lies and homophobic talking points. My friends and I were bullied and even suspended just for music we liked or trying to dress even remotely alternative. It really is wild being old enough now to have seen multiple moral panics happen and watch people fall for it over and over again.
Great video, dude. I graduated in 2010 and you nailed it. As much as it sucked for us, I never complained much because the kids from the middle east got treated much worse for the same bullshit associatons that had nothing to do with them.
I loved this video! I followed you on Tiktok for a while and was surprised to find you do long-form videos too! Ngl I think I prefer the long form. You knocked it out of the park with this one. Can't wait to see more from you! And I'd love to hear more about subculture history or current events!
a guy told me he was going to bring a gun to school to kill me because I and I quote "openly walk around being gay and sh*t" I told people I was a lesbian if they asked because I am. He said that in front of the teacher who did not care at all we were just told to stop arguing and get back to work I wasn't even arguing I was listening to music, and he was bothering me. That all said I was still the one teacher pulled out of class to illegally search for drugs and weapons because I had blue hair and am openly gay in a small town. Added point no I have never drunk, done drugs, or smoked. And finally, yes, my mom did call the school and yell at them because where I live that is an illegal search without parent notice and they had zero reason to even assume it was me.
When a gay person exists suddenly they're the spawn of satan. But when a straight person threatens to murder a gay person then it's just arguing. What a world we live in.
Is it bad to say that the most chocking thing to me in this video was the revelation that Marilyn Manson is now a born again Christian. Geez. I had no idea. Though, Kanye being present at his baptism does kind of feel like it checks out, somehow.
I was in my 20's in the 90's so it didn't affect me as much as teens in high school. I started listening to goth/alternative/punk music in the mid 80's so I also didn't pay attention to Marilyn Manson. I've always just done my own thing, I really don't give a crap at this point as to what the media says when it comes to subcultures. They NEVER get the whole picture right.
The most ironic thing about columbine, is than in an interview about what happened - Marilyn Manson was asked “What would you say to the kids at that school?” Manson replied “Id just listen to the people that needed to be heard”
i graduated in 2021, and despite being 20 years separated as of my graduation, i was called a school shooter and given the “lemme see your wrists” line more than i ever expected in middle and early high school. i was a scene kid in middle school and later just a metalhead/punk kid and i never got it because i wasn’t even goth. don’t know what’s goth about a neon monster t-shirt in 2014 but who knows. glad you talked about this topic.
It’s always the religious and/or old republicans that leave marginalized groups to be the blame for violence when those who commit violence, especially with guns, are usually gun-loving republicans. I’m only halfway through, but I can definitely say that this video does an amazing job at blending humor and simple facts to disprove the fear-mongering that were stricken onto goths and many other minorities that get shat on by the gun-owning Christian republican. Love your editing a bunch as well! It’s very inspiring for me, who’s getting into editing and designing :3
Maybe that was true 70 years ago, but the roles have reversed when it comes to censorship. I understand why you feel this way. You're probably too young to remember the satanic panic. I'm 43 & I've seen a lot of change since the 80's & 90's. It is now the left that enforces censorship & the conservatives defending free speech. Tipper Gore founded the PMRC that started those parental advisory warnings & tried to censor heavy metal music. Most of the music and media that conservatives complained about years ago is now being cancelled by liberals who find it offensive. It's scary to think that free speech can be taken away by someone merely accusing it of being hate speech. Most republicans these days are mainly concerned with cost of living, inflation & economic issues. There will always be extremists from every group, but they are almost always a loud, vocal minority. There are no major right wing groups currently trying to censor any music, film or video games. The exception being when it comes to children. I'm not into politics, but I do agree with most traditional conservative values. I have many republican & democrat friends. The democrats are the only ones I see trying to censor peoples free speech. One of my friends at work is a passionate democrat. Absolutely hates republicans, even though almost all of his work friends are republican. He is the only one at our job that is offended by everything & tries to censor other people. He goes on a rant every time the song "Play That Funky Music White Boy" comes on the radio. Going on about how offensive the song is because white boy is a racial slur. Give me a break 😂 it's just a song. If you don't like it don't listen to it. Also, it is absolutely absurd to claim that most violence is committed by republicans. The vast majority of violence in this country occurs in the major cities. All of which are blue voting cities. The small red areas in these cities are usually the only neighborhoods that don't have much violence. I've lived in NYC for over 40 years. We have a lot of violence here. It is extremely rare to hear about a republican committing an act of violence in my city.
absolutely fantastic video!! i really like how you took the issue of the goth scapegoat and used it as a gateway into the bigger topic of moral panic. i do have to mention though i got completely jumpscared when i heard the song in the outro because i did not expect to hear haircuts for men in a video of yours LOL i literally paused the video thinking it was playing in another tab of mine. needless to say, excellent choice in outro music B)
21:35 euphemisms have always been used by politicians to atract the most voters possible, for example; on the tompic of illegal immigration, "protecting american jobs" is most often about hating Mexicans, no one is tightening boreder security on the US-Canadian border, or pulling over white Europeans to check their visas. "protect the children" is here code for "I don't like this thing, let's ban it". I love your videos, super entertaining while being educational and fun, much love
TW: nasty school abuse shit. I'm a somewhat well-balanced 40 year old, these days, but after Columbine, I was specifically singled out, targeted and preyed upon by an abuser in a position of authority at my high school because I "fit the profile" and no one would advocate for me, so this episode hit pretty hard.
As someone who’s lived through all of the moral panics mentioned here, let me say, you’ve nailed it. You did some pretty damn good research for this video.
I really like this style of video for you!! You did a great job explaining the transition between topics but also how they correlate and go full circle. I’m a goth poc so this really made me feel heard, I go on rants like this to my friends but they don’t always understand the nuances to things like this lol
I hope y'all enjoy!!! Due to the nature of this video, needless to say I won't be making any ad rev. So if you want to support me, please consider checking out the patreon! And since it'll be suppressed, sharing would help out a bunch (: Either way, thank you so much for watching & for being here, It means a lot!🖤
Just a fraction of the way through, but I can tell you put a lot of effort and research into this video. As a misunderstood goth in my group, I think some people I know need to see it 😅😅 (although, it doesn't happen in the media as much but some friends will make annoying jokes anyway)
This is definitely one of my new fav videos on UA-cam. I’ve seen plenty of videos on how columbine has effected the alternative community but nothing (that I’ve seen) goes into as much detail:3 I will HAPPILY share this video with like everyone ever tbh LOLZ… I also put the link in my insta bio. THIS IS A BANGER!!🗣️
This video made me feel seen as someone who got bullied for "looking like" a shooter, in reality I just had bad mental health and not a lot of friends, thanks man
Speaking of ways to support you, will you ever have more shirts for sale in the future? I have your album but I wanna physically rep your stuff, too. ✌
This is one of your best vids so far. Your knowledge and research are amazing!
Sophie Lancaster was murdered for dressing goth. I went to school with people who were jumped and beaten bloody for looking emo.
The treatment of alternative culture in the media caused casualties.
Goths I knew ended in the hospital because tourists who came to our city from the services beat them up. This was the 00s.
I just looked up the Sophie Lancaster case and it's unbelievably sad. Those teenage boys who looked like such 'normal' English kids were the ones mindlessly killing someone for looking some way.
I'm an emo kid and got jumped together with my then boyfriend (we were 18) on a train while coming back from a concert. These three drunk guys decided we didn't look normal and one said we 'needed Allah'. One of the other guys said 'let's f*ck up the dude and we can f*ck the chick'. My boyfriend and I fought them and sprinted off the train and had to spend the night on a train station because that was our last train. We never regretted it though. These guys had pure evil in their eyes, they would have killed us if they had gotten the chance.
i got beaten for being an emo / goth but i think it was actually just homophobia
Think she was killed because she was a witness, they originally attacked her bf, which doesn't make it better but small detail
I remember reading about that in Kerrang a few weeks later. It was terrible and a new foundation was born from that tragedy, to protect young people from violent bullies.
Thanks to the Satanic Panic of the 90's, things like being Goth and liking metal were (and still now are to some extent) considered a cultural taboo even though both are just harmless hobbies/likings
And now that same type of shit is targeting and demonizing other minorities like queer people for just existing.
Satanic Panic was the 80s not the 90s, what the hell are you even talking about. The original School Shooters, the Columbine Massacre duo, were goth-adjacent. That's where it comes from. End of discussion. You can end the video now.
I don’t really think anyone considers liking metal is to be a taboo. Most people I know are fine with me liking that music. Though they do think dressing in a goth style is weird.
@@DrewKane did you even watch the video
@@DrewKane There were 2. The 80s one centered around Dungeons and Dragons. The 90s one centered around the movie Dogma. Source: I'm 50, I lived through both.
Goth music is so soft and melancholic, so i don't understand how Goths are associated with violence.
My guess is these dumb adults people who dress weird listen to anyone who dresses weird.
A goth is far more likely to pull a kitten out of an alley and take it home, then we are to actively pursue violence...
We would debate you in philosophy, until we are blue in the face, quite the accomplishment in Harlequin white make up I tell you... long before we would resort to violence.
Goths are just the other... easy to blame because we are easily identified. "But you can take it off"... yah we could, but why would any goth change who we are, because some else's ignorance causes them to hate us.
Besides goth culture is about the music... the look just makes it easier to find each other. And it is nice putting on a black 3 piece suit, top hat, cane and some fine shoes... it looks and feels great
“goth” in the 90s meant KMFDM, Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails, etc
@@KMFDM242 no little boy, it didn't. I was there in the 90s. Goth was Switchblade Symphony, Diva Destruction, and Faith and The Muse. You know, like actual Goth music. Manson, NIN, and FMFDM were industrial. Poser.
@@KMFDM242no they weren't. Goth is it's own music genre. Those bands were part of the industrial scene. Grow a brain.
this is so crazy because all of my goth friends are like the nicest people on earth and would never hurt a fly 😭
I actually notice massive changes towards how people treat me based on how I'm dressed. I've been in the darkwave and industrial scene for decades. During highschool I was a goth too and my nickname there was Columbine, which at my highschool reuinion everyone still called me that. So it's hard to escape the hate somedays, but w/e they are not worth my time or energy.
If I'm the nicest person I can be and I dress gothy, everyone thinks I'm giant piece of shit and they treat me like a leper.
If I dress like I would for corporate meetings, people think I'm some kind of expert on everything around me and the nicest person despite me being a raging asshole. I'm not friendly in those environments and even less so around HR.
If I dress like I do when I'm working everyone thinks I need to be locked in a mental hospital because i dress like an organic chemist.
If I dress in drag everyone just calls me hairy Tim Curry, which to me is a compliment.
I find it all to be stupid though I do like being compared to Tim Curry, I would like to wear colored nail polish more often since I use it to make sure my hands arent melting off from chemical spills or an organochem's passion project to make a bioweapon despite it being a paint lab and not a biology lab AND I like being connected to my music scene and the friends I've made there that are still some of the best people I know nearly 20 years later. We don't hang out anymore because we all live in different parts of the world now but they are still the only people who bother to send out holiday cards and actually check up on others.
Goths are legit the nicest people I know other than my sysadmin who is borderline into the scene himself with all the weird edm he listens to. Also really loves the cure... Which explains a lot of things.
Note to HR: Stop harassing my sysadmin and lab team, I will put your cars into the lake for real next time and not just remove the wheels and battery.
@@MrPigmentsthis was exceedingly verbose over something so inconsequential.
@@angusmcnay5449 I work with organic chemists as an OSHA compliance officer and pseudo-southern. I can't not be extremely verbose or take up half your day by discussing something inconsequential with you.
It's just how we are
@@angusmcnay5449 why are you being so rude about it? this person was just talking about how this video's topic is personally relevant to them. who cares if they were a bit wordy?
My dad and stepmother are sorta goths (more like 'are' but toned it down with age) and I'm glad it feels like it's really in right now, same with metal of every flavour. It makes me happy; People should be cliquey and niche if they want to be, life's too short to purposefully be an NPC.
I wasn't a Goth in the 90s, I was too self conscious to dress like that. I switched schools over 10 times as a kid, and moved to the Bay area when I entered Junior High. I didn't know how to make friends, I was a nerdy, scrawny kid, and everyone picked on me. I found the Goth kids intimidating at first, until they invited me to sit with them because they noticed I was sitting alone.
People always saw them as these cynical and mean or violent kids, but I'll never forget that they were the only ones that offered any compassion.
I'm older now, but it taught me to never judge a person by appearances. Throughout my life the outcasts, goths, punks and weirdos were some of the nicest, welcoming, community-driven people I've known.
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This. Some of the safest communities I’ve ever been around/apart of have been the goth & gay ones. It’s like a totally different and SAFE world🖤
I totally agree! I was also like you but met a Goth guy who turned out to be my best friend ever. He changed my life. I was accepted for the first time ever. It was a glorious experience.
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It always did bug me that the media made goths this horrific thing. Football hooliganism was way more rampant within the UK, but no it’s people who enjoy listening to sisters of mercy or the cure as you mentioned, it’s mental
Yeah, that's one of the things I think he kinda oversimplified- the problem really wasn't football hooligans getting drunk and shouting, it's that you'd then have a bunch of really drunk guys after the game picking fights with just about anyone, and then rioting and looting stores. I don't think that what he mentioned in any way fixed that problem, but that's a matter of social problems and solutions that unfortunately wasn't really implemented. From what I understand, a large part of the problem was that attending football matches stopped being a family affair for some reason, and because of that there weren't a bunch of older men there to sort out the aimless young single men when they got a bit out of line, and so you combine that with some other factors and all of a sudden, what I described happened.
When I was in high school I got called into the office because there where reports of me “planning violence against the sch00l” and I found out later that a teacher made that after I made a presentation basically exactly like this video 😂
It’s genuinely so saddening and terrifying how easily some people blindly believe things
Churches literally hypnotize.
smh cant believe crustbag is WOKE now, i miss the old non woke vids like "The Boy’s Bible Sent Me to Hell"
My first day at work after the olympic opening ceremony I mentioned how excited I was that Gojira performed and the guy I was talking to looked me dead and the eyes and said, "but the whole thing was Satannic!?". These people are so stupid I didn't even know how to respond.
I love Christian people that don’t actually read the Bible and call anything that puts their abusive power into question as Satan
I'm going to see them on the 25th
needed a video like this. people were ALWAYS calling me a school shooter back in school for the way i looked, so im glad someone made an analysis on this. cant wait to watch!
to some extent, same 😭😭 but im still glad i graduated early and got my ass out of there
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I'm grateful that you're talking about this. Graduated in 2021, started getting into metal back in 6th/7th grade and before then I was already seen as the "weird quiet girl." All throughout middle school and highschool I got called a school shooter and satanist, people made self harm jokes, even had some kids approach me and ask me in a mocking tone if I sacrificed animals. One girl looked at me with a horrified expression the first day of class when she realized I was assigned the seat next to her, at the end of the semester she ended up saying "you're actually nice despite how you dress." So much bullying and harassment and even people being afraid to sit next to me in class all because of some stupid moral panic that painted alternative folks as dangerous. I'm glad that the bs stereotypes the media created are starting to die down, I'm hopeful that whenever I have kids they won't have to go through the same harassment while growing up that I and so many others did.
Thank you for covering this subject, the internet isn't always a nice place but one good thing about it is we can use it dispell the misconceptions and stereotypes that have plagued our subcultures for far too long.
I legitimately had a very similar experience. Graduated HS in 2022. I got into Metallica back in 6th grade, and my "friends" ended up being like "it's a bad influence" or "it's Satanic." This was on top of them joining in with bullies on other stuff and seeing a correlation between my developing depression and the music I was using to cope rather than their actions. I had people call me Satanic after I lost those "friends" because then I got into death metal to cope with the anger. I was also called a school shooter cuz I wore black to blend in and had no friends.
My siblings are 4 years younger than me (twins) and one of them is into some of the music I'm into, and funnily enough, they've had only a little bit of bullying around the subject of music and dressing alternative. It's crazy how much changed in that time.
@@gabeberger803 I lost "friends" as well over it, people freaking out about how I "wasn't myself anymore" and "are influenced by the devil" when the music literally helped me get through things I was struggling with. People love to jump to "you're only depressed because you're too morbid and into that demonic stuff" when the real reason a lot of us love the music is because we already struggled before we discovered it, but now we've found a music and subculture that makes us feel less alone.
I'm glad your younger family members aren't going through as much bs as we and folks around our age went through.
ive had the same issues back in like 2022 and it kinda died entirely this year no one looks at me weird and i have not had any problems ive always been that one kid who listens to death metal and goth music and stuff like that and alot more people are cool about it now i think the worst thing that happened is one time me and my freinds where told we could not go to our usual meeting spot at school (we are a group of like 6 alt kids so) bc some one made a threat to the school
You have no idea, just how f*cked up things got and I was in Canada.
I was in High-school in the late 90s, four of my friends were arrested because walking while goth, and smoking in a graveyard. Charged with attempted arson. The picnic basket and parasols screamed active pyros.
I got off the bus at a train station, I was detained, they broke my headphones, discman (cd player), took my CD book and never gave it back. Ripped my clothes, took my sewing and leatger working tools. They never compensated, returned or even apologized for stealing and breaking my stuff. Oh sorry the police call, it confiscation not blatant theft.
I got introduced to how police use phone books because walking while goth, oh right I had a skateboard at tge time as well, I can't skate. I was holding it for a friend that had run into the train station for cigarettes.
I had a cop follow me from the train station to the club one night, that one was funny.
The school threatened to expel us if we wore makeup to school... we asked would they only be targeting us or did that apply to every chick in the joint as well.
My locker was raided so often I just started carrying all my books all the time. I left a go F yourself note in the locker.
A friend got jumped by 3 jocks after class one day because he used a Manson song for an English assignment. Our police liason did nothing, so they kept bullying him. Eventually the pig did something, only after the 4tb or 5th time, only because they happened to break his arm and his parents got involved.
I was stabbed because walking while goth.
I can keep going. I have been a goth since 86. The 96 till about 05 window was just brutal. Then they went after the emo kids and mall goths. Ugh.
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That.... somehow sounds worse.
I was in high school in 2002 when there was a shooting at a high school in Erfurt here in Germany. German media went all in on blaming the shooting on Marilyn Manson and Slipknot as I remember. I was really big into those bands at the time and wore their shirts to school every day. Teachers felt the need to put me on a watch list of sorts and many students avoided me like the plague (though I was also bullied a bit less, yay!). It was just all so stupid. I'm just glad there aren't any moral panics any more these days...
As a teenage "goth" looking girl back in early 2000 small town in an Eastern european country, even i heard that Manson had "corrupted the brains of young people into becoming killers with his lyrics" and felt a bit worried having his poster up on my wall next to a shirtless ville vallo (dont judge lol). This video brought up a very vivid memory of little old me thinking maybe i WAS a "wrongun" even though i was objectively such a good kid looking back. I just liked the music and the aesthetic. What a bunch of nonsense, I'm amazed at how quick and far it spread even without social media or even the internet mostly.
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Elder goth here. I grew up in the 80s. I am also a nerd. I loved dungeons and dragons. I can tell you what I wasn't doing playing DND. I wasn't having sex, getting drunk or doing drugs. It was some of the most wholesome moments of my teen years. I had to sneak around to play it in the way other kids were sneaking around to party. In fact I used the I was partying excuse to get out of the trouble I would have been in when they busted me sneaking back into the house one morning. I was drug into a preachers office when I drew an ankh on my trapper keeper. I was playing the devil's game. Satanic panic was everywhere. It was so stupid. I mean my parents were relieved I was just out drinking and not playing the devil's game lol.
Same with reading beat poets or Mary Shelley…and writing in a park or graveyard.
We literally going through a "trans panic" right now so it never ends with these people.
Unfortunately.
literally. my dad used to not care about transgenders, he wouldn’t give a shit until like 2022, then he became a hardcore conservative, consumed conservative media, and told me he was scared of me turning transgender 💀💀
If you are a trans goth…Good luck to you!
Same circus, same clowns
project 2025 is gonna be 'everyone but me' panic
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As a goth, seeing my fav youtuber making a video defending goths makes me so fucking happy :D
i'm in a crustbag video, mom i made it !!!!! ( upper middle at 0:46)
no fr I got so excited to see my picture being used in your video, I really appreciate you defending us goths so hard man lots of love :')
wtf that's such a cool picture 🤯
As a 50 year old Aussie, who identified as a Goth back in the day. I fully remember the moral panic over playing D & D, dressing in black, listening to alternative music, and just being "OTHER".
We were blamed for everything that went wrong, that couldn't be explained; If someone's cat went missing... "Oh, I heard that it was those Goth kids using it as a sacrifice to the Devil!"...
Umm, no.
1. We as a group, couldn't even contemplate hurting any animal.
2. To believe in the Devil, you first need to believe in God,(Which we didn't).
3. We were generally so stoned, it was difficult to get off the couch! 😅😂😂😂
In high school, I remember I was bullied all the time for being introverted and just generally quiet. I didn't even wear any sort of black clothing at the time, I was just a quiet, shy person. I still am. I remember my own friends at the time compared me to a school shooter and they said its because I liked typically alternative musicians. This was in 2017. I really hope I don't give off that vibe anymore like I apparently did in high school. Because I would never hurt anymore, I would literally cry and feel like complete shit if I knew I hurt someone or their feelings.
I had the school shooter moniker for a while and from your case it sounds about similar to mine; they had a weird line of thinking "the quiet kid is hiding something, they're gonna kill us all one day!" Just for being introverted, people think you're gonna just snap one day etc.
But alternative music should have nothing to do with it imo
It's the same category as video games ..people play COD, are they gonna shoot up the school? (Lol, probably not)
I've been listening to increasingly heavier music over the years and well ..I'm no angrier nor any bit violent from it 😂
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i don't think i've ever seen crustbag this mad, kinda goes to show how absolutely ridiculous moral panics are
I recall almost being lynched at Lyon’s the night of Columbine. I always wore almost floor length trench coats, I was a Viking Goth, I didn’t do black hair.
Earlier that day one of my younger friends came over to ‘inform me’ about the school incident. ‘For some reason, IDK why, I figured you should know.’ He told me.
Ok we were living in the Bay Area, California. I had canceled cable tv due to a repetitive billing error, so I didn’t care about tv, and the internet was not something I’d do all day.
Later another friend suggested going to Lyons, as it was getting late and nobody had eaten yet. So what did I do? I said sure, let’s go eat. I donned my long black coat and headed to Lyons.
As soon as the last customers left, the tweaker employees locked the doors and perched around our table like gargoyles. They told us we could smoke inside if we want.
I’m feeling something isn’t quite right, but hey! If they could see me now SMOKING IN A PUBLIC PLACE…..
Then they just focused on ME…. Yeah here it comes.
Have I ever been to Colorado?
No.
Do I always dress like this?
Pretty much.
I can’t even remember how we got out of that, but it took me a minute to realize, they THOUGHT they were going to lynch ME and make headlines… be the ‘hero’s’ or some stupid thing.
I used to teach my younger friends about nature and spirituality, I helped found an animal rescue, I taught yoga, Pilates, and healthier cooking. I even taught several ways to remove spiders from your home without injuring them!
Like I’m totally 180• from a school s h o o T e r! I’m trying to help the younger kids to communicate better with their parents, and be more forgiving, understanding etc!
My theory is if there were more people that took a few minutes out with the younger generations, share some wisdom and save them years of anguish and making mistakes, MAYBE the horror of Columbine would’ve never happened in the first place!
In conclusion it has recently been coming up in my feed about the loss of Third Places.
THAT is quite a massive error on the part of city planning commissions across the nation!
I realize my generation HAD Third Spaces, and they vanished. We’re used to the mat being ripped out from under us, we keep it pushin.
However, I just today realized how awful it is, that not only are we neglecting to listen to the younger people when they say they feel isolated, we have forgotten WE, ourselves ever HAD THIRD SPACES. The younger kids really never had that!
Not only are important classes being ripped out of the school systems, classes that YOU NEED FOR LIFE, but also the creative classes!
That’s just unacceptable!
Again, I apologize to the Z’s and Alphas, even Millennials I think might’ve gotten the short end of that stick, cuz I’m not exactly sure when it happened.
THIRD SPACES ARE SO IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE’S DEVELOPMENT!
I’m not sure WHY this isolating situation is being inflicted on you kids, but I want to point out, YOU can and SHOULD approach your CITY PLANNING COMMISSIONS, even consider getting employment there. It never was mentioned as an option when I was younger, even though as a kid, I loved designing cities.
You have a right to voice your opinion, and make suggestions to any changes you’d like to see happen. I hope you’ll seriously consider this option.
If I remember correctly, Columbine actually happened once they started shutting down OUR own cafes and other local third spaces.
Hopefully, if you’ve made it this far in my post, you’ll consider showing up at City Hall, City Planning meetings, or places of proposed new developments, and WEIGH IN!
The breath of fresh air might be just what our country needs!
I’d also like to let you know, yes, we see the idiots and hypocrites. I am so sorry you have to deal with that, as if trying to survive in this world needs any added stress, grab one of your elders, and tell them HEY I NEED SOME ASSISTANCE. You might be surprised…
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Hey, think on the bright side! At least basic science and healthcare is no longer considered “satanic”. Getting sick isn’t seen as being punished by God anymore which is good. Pretty sad that it took a long time for people to figure that stuff out but at least we figured it out and we don’t have to worry about being outcasted or even killed for simply not wanting to have a cold.
I am in love with this man
I was born, raised and still live in Liverpool in England, almost all of the victims of the Hillsborough disaster were liverpool fc fans, to this day it is mentioned absolutely everywhere in my city, almost every single thing related to liverpool fc mentions and pays respect to the 97 victims and people still talk about it often. It, alongside a whole load of other events/factors, helped contribute to the overall communal distrust of the government and authority (especially the tory/conservative government in the uk) that our city holds.
The point im trying to get at is the effects of moral panic leave scars that are felt for generations that have such a strong domino effect that the people who are hurt by them dont forget what happened and that anger and resentment does not go away, as their kids will remember and their grandkids will remember and so on.
Unfortunately that does not make them immune to being influenced by moral panic themselves, as seen by the disgusting anti-immigration far right riots that took place here a few weeks ago that resulted in my own neighbourhood being torn apart and the local library being burnt down. Its just incredibly fucking frustrating and makes me uncontrollably angry that even people who have been effected by the worst aspects of moral panic can fall victim to it themselves so easily. Social media has given the most hateful and evil people a megaphone who manipulate the working class into believing that their problems are caused by innocent marginalised groups who are just minding their own business. It makes my blood boil.
Scousers Don't buy The S*n !
Everything you said is true but one big difference between the UK and America is access to guns
This video really hits home as a "goth" person (Industrial & metal music nerd, always wear black, etc...). Also probably my favorite Crustbag video to date. Well done sir! Can't wait for the next video!
This is crustbags best video and no one can convince me otherwise. really well researched.
Parents would blame literally anything if it means they don't have to reflect on the way they parent or god forbid.... Actually parent their kids
He Crusting my Bag till I gothed.
You're completely right in the whole thing of "goth" being this largely undefined and completely misunderstood area by a lot of people, and it has even pervaded nowadays. In my sophomore year of high school, just three years ago, in my science class there was this guy who was constantly making remarks towards me about how I "shouldn't target him" or whatever, meanwhile nothing about it fits any sort of frequent descriptions of either actual shooters, or the media's sensationalized portrayal of them. I wore a black shirt on a nearly daily basis, but that's quite literally it, and even that was enough for me to be painted as a threat by someone and allowing them some reason to mock me.
1:26 did he just Rick Roll us in the most subtle way?
I was outwardly Goth throughout the late 80’s to the early 2000’s. I was in college when columbine happened and me and my friends were harassed and targeted by others. It was scary and depressing. We are literally the nicest people for the most part.
I think the video nasty panic also has at least something to do with Ted Bundy, who very specifically chose to have his only pre-execution interview with a fundamentalist Christian preacher and spent most of the time saying “now I’m not saying I did this cause of corn…. But if I didn’t have access as a child I probably wouldn’t have gotten addicted and then become a serial unaliver” which was categorically false because every time he was arrested, none of his possessions included anything a normal person would call “corn”
Good point
Ted Bundy was American though.
One of the things I love about this is, I'm more than twice your age, I've been saying for almost all of my life the same things you are, but your touch points are such very recent history it gives me the giggles. "Unironically wishing they could go back to the good old days" and then listing a series of bands that I don't consider being from "the good old days" until I stop and think about how LONG I've been listening to them and fuck me, I'm old...
so i wanted to leave a comment because i'm a psych undergrad and i debated for awhile between doing social research on what makes a school shooter and clinical research on cluster b personality disorders (i ultimately decided on the latter), and i feel the two have become related. painting school shooters as just "bullying victims out for revenge" and/or "mentally disturbed" individuals creates an anger in me that i'll never be able to put into words. i've struggled with both SEVERLY, as have many others. the stigmatizaion of "scary" disorders (such as personality disorders, ocd, or bipolor) in this way creates a never-ending cycle where in individuals with said disorders have less access to good treatment, which then leads to being a danger to others or themselves. I think it's so important when we talk about things like school shootings or DV to not blame it on a person's mental state and rather hold the person themselves accountable for their own actions.
The sad thing is that many people who aknowledge, laugh at and cringe at the moral panics in the 80s and 90s, somehow can't get enough of the anti-woke coolaid.
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i was a teen in the 2000s and the amount of bullying i suffered just for being goth is almost funny to think about it today. It came to a point that I had my bag searched because a dude in my class told the monitor I was a school shooter. They only found questionable yaoi fan art and a some dope ass mixtapes.
The only thing I can figure out is that, because the Columbine murderers listened to KMFDM, and industrial culture runs parallel to goth culture, anything that could be interpreted as one of those things became associated with school shootings. And it probably didn't help that a lot of rivetheads and other edgy folks kind of leaned into the aesthetic, both intentionally and unintentionally: camo, military cargos, trench coats, etc.
Goths tended to buy thrift clothes and army surplus was even sold at Banana Republic in the 80s. I wore a trench every day to school my senior year. So glad I was through high school before this happened, but we were still bullied. I was surprised that KMFDM was mentioned…because their music is so underground compared to MM.
Your avatar styled like how we grew up is weird
Wow this is the earliest I have ever been to your videos
when I was in school, I get shit like "he's got that school shooter fit on today" or "hey be nice to him he may aim at you tomorrow" literally only because I wore black shirts of like nerdy stuff I was into and bands I liked, slightly comforting to know I didn't suffer alone because of that
What talent you have for making honest, relevant, educational, entertaining videos..
Keep making the vids You want to make, I'll keep watching
I grew up as an "emo kid". Makeup, straightened hair, skinny HotTopic jeans, the whole 9 yards.
I know full well what it's like to be bullied and called shit like "school shooter" even though that couldn't be farther from the truth. Even teachers treat you like shit. I didn't even finish high school because they were just so done with me.
Being a high school emo kid in 2009 sucked ass. Now, as a 31-year-old, I look back and think about how fucked up it is to call someone that. How fucked up it is to even leave it to chance that someone would do something like that.
Again, Never in a million years would I have ever done anything even close to that, but on their part, I wouldn't even chance it. Leave people alone, don't pick on the goth/emo kids.
Thank you for making this video dude. I feel seen.
I really enjoy long-form content, and seeing a half hour banger coming from you, I never clicked faster.
I just recently discovered this channel but I'm a huge fan. This guy is both funny and very smart and manages to make super entertaining videos that not only are educational as well, but also are highly convenient for sending to clueless family members who keep asking you 'Why are you wearing so much black, do you hate everyone? I'm scared of you'.
the need for a scapegoat is never ending
As a 16 year old alt kid when columbine happened, police cruisers definitely slowed down and harassed me multiple times on the way home from school
You weren't alternative
That was Our Generation
Also tied to OUR PARENT'S CULTURES
@@Ritff666l-e9e Useless gatekeeper
As a goth kid, thanks for helping stick up for us! Means a lot, even if the issue is slowly fading. Moral panics are definitely a wild sociological phenominon, but yeah, they don't ever help. Loved the video. Stay safe, man, never know if (insert marginalized innocent group of people literally doing nothing but minding their own fucking business) will (insert genuinely huge social issue that has so many intersecting parts that one group cannot possibly be blamed without also analyzing why exactly that group may have done so.)
Thank you for this! I wore mostly black(still do) and dyed my hair black starting in middle school...I had no friends and was a severely depressed, bullied outcast. After the school thing happened, my peers and school staff thought I was going to do the same thing. I was a tiny, harmless, helpless 13 year old girl with crippling anxiety who never talked, wore black and listened to my discman all the time. I didn't do anything besides look a certain way, get bullied and not interact, yet was institutionalized even though I feel bad if I squish a bug ugh. I loathe labels and assumptions and society...
This video was so well said and articulated, and I'm glad you didn't hold anything back in this one. It's frustrating to see history repeat itself again and again over the years and watch millions of people panic over the 1000th thing that they don't understand because it's new and different to them, therefore meaning that it must be ruining society or "the youth". We're just going through another version of this now, which feels like something that has been building up over 40-something years and has grew into a widespread movement of crazily angry and gullible people who are too stubborn to view things in a different lens. Yet every time a new version of this type of moral panic happens, people act like it's brand new and has never happened before. Well maybe this flavor of it hasn't happened before, but it sure does feel familiar. I'm the same age as you and the older I get the harder it's become for me to trust people, knowing that they could be just as suspectable for falling for this stuff as anyone else. But videos like this help remind me that there's still some sanity out there.
This video is literally art, your editing and way of presenting this is amazing and hopefully will open some eyes 🙃🖤
this is genuinely one of the best video essays I've ever seen. No bullshit. Just another crustbag w.
I play dnd, listen to alt music, am gay, and am trans. I think I got a moral panic bingo, do I get a prize?
No, because you are doing it Decades after the Originals
@@Ritff666l-e9e I would probably have been burned alive in colonial Massachusetts
Would a gold star sticker suffice? That's all I got sorry
THANK YOU. im so happy someone is finally talking about this because i have personally dealt with the stigma the media left on "alternative/gothi(c)" culture. the whole "sch00l sh00ter" & "satan worshipping" bs made me stop going to in-person school because of the bullying the media brought amongst (smfh).
all the name calling and finger pointing in our politics reminds me of those times i was in HS, like are we really NOT going to grow up from that?? the way they (certain political party..) address """ISSUES""" in this day in age, is disgusting ... i will always be so disappointed how weve managed to loop back and find a group of people to project hate to. there is never accountability.
Michael Moore talked about it 😆
I appreciate you taking on this topic, it’s very sensitive and isn’t addressed in depth too often when it definitely should be
this is such a fantastic video omg how do you pull these so flawlessly omg
loved the video! you're one of my favorite creators on this platform btw. i've been fascinated by the satanic panic for a while now, read a little bit about the goth blaming while researching columbine but it was great to see more on the topic. i find it weirdly funny how here in central europe, decades after both of these took place, my religious parents voiced 'concerns' about my music taste using rhetoric literally straight out of the US in the 80s.
on another note, one correction i have to make: the columbine perpetrators could actually be considered 'alternative', even beyond your loose definition. if you look at videos of them in school, prior to the massacre, they mostly wear black, with band shirts and military elements, they were also known to be fans of industrial music, especially kmfdm. certainly they stood out, although they had nothing to do with goth culture specifically (doesn't mean the panic would've been anymore justified if 'rivethead' was used as a buzzword instead). about the bullying part, they were both perpetrators (specifically dylan klebold got in trouble for bullying younger students, interesting how he's often painted as the 'innocent and misguided one') and possibly victims (there are conflicting reports as to what extent though).
all in all, this doesn't take away from the main point of the video. the perpetrators' worldview and obsession with weapons certainly places them close ideologically to other people guilty of similar violent acts. the scapegoating was absolutely horrible and unjustified. and when it comes to kmfdm, it's quite tragic how their satire of certain themes was completely twisted by the killers and their copycats.
(edit: i can already see i made some errors, sorry. english isn't my first language)
Fantastic video, dude! I think being able to explain something well without getting too far into the nitty gritty is a skill, and you've absolutely got it. 👍
When I was like 15 I got beaten bloody till 3 ribs were broken all because I was goth in a Midwest Highschool. It still sickens me that after that most of the school thought that I was more “weird” and “evil” than the guys who sent me to the hospital.
This is amazing. I hope we see more longer videos because every time I just get sucked in to it.
1:48 song in the backround ?
As a 38 year old black goth guy who got into the scene in the early 2000s it's nice when people ask me about my Lebanon Hanover or Selofan shirt. We used to get a lot of mean looks from people when I was a kid. Especially here in rural Va.
As a 42 year old "republican" from the deepest South, I have but one thing to say. This kid is brilliant. Well done Mr. Crust, or Mr. Bag, whichever.
Much respect my friend. Hope you have a great week.
This is video is so well done. From the research to the editing. And as a member of the goth subculture, I really appreciate how you mentioned that through the panic about goths in the 90s, which lead to media attention from people who already didn’t understand alternative subcultures, it made the image of goth as a whole become watered down to how normies view goths: black nail polish and angry music. And that superficial image that developed is part of the reason goth is so misconstrued today as well, by people who know nothing about its history or the music and strip it of the things that actual goths love about it. Loved the video man, great work!
What I never got is that D&D is considered satanic when most of the time you’re actually fighting demons, like tf
This video is honestly one of the best video essays I've ever seen.
Columbine also helped make gamers out to be violent psychos! I think one of them made a custom map of their school, which I believe the dude at Virginia Tech also did but in cs. A pretty normal thing for anyone starting to create their own custom maps. It's mind blowing to me how the Columbine shooting was blamed on these unrelated things when the shooters had a criminal history and one of them even got in trouble for having a website where he wrote about wanting another student dead, it's even more mind blowing how this continues to happen.
THANK-YOU for this video!👌🏽 Yes to everything you have said! I have felt the same way my whole life! It is so nice to see so many diverse communities represented and talked about. I appreciate that you discuss discrimination against goths, LGBTQIA2S+ people, and many others.
Also, I had to mention that you are lucky if you are privileged enough to not have to think/talk about politics! It is necessary to understand the intersections of oppressions like these.
You are well informed, and I'm glad you are making vids like this! You now have a new fan!
I always thought the stupidest thing about the columbine panic was that there was actually a band that the shooters were fans of, kmfdm. There’s pictures/videos of them wearing their merch and everything and you could even make connections between their lyrics and the shooting if you really wanted to. Just exposes how manufactured it truly was, since Marilyn Manson would just have been the guy most people had heard of.
Makes me sad as a fan of the artist actually. This was the same time some of KMFDM's former members had a falling out, leading to En Esch and Gunter Schultz's departure, and Sascha Kontiesko and Tim Skold forming MDFMK, which became short-lived. This lead to Lucia Caferilli being gifted as a permanent member as KMFDM returned in 2002.
This video explained it perfectly. I was born in '92 in Colorado and grew up mostly as a Metal Head, but was labeled a school shooter and Goth most of my up bringing. Christian churches used to protest and show up at my High School ,especially a very vocal prominent church who shall not be named (WBC), spouting satanic panic lies and homophobic talking points. My friends and I were bullied and even suspended just for music we liked or trying to dress even remotely alternative. It really is wild being old enough now to have seen multiple moral panics happen and watch people fall for it over and over again.
Funny
90s were the Imitators
And you were only a Toddler then
Great video, dude. I graduated in 2010 and you nailed it. As much as it sucked for us, I never complained much because the kids from the middle east got treated much worse for the same bullshit associatons that had nothing to do with them.
I loved this video! I followed you on Tiktok for a while and was surprised to find you do long-form videos too! Ngl I think I prefer the long form. You knocked it out of the park with this one. Can't wait to see more from you! And I'd love to hear more about subculture history or current events!
a guy told me he was going to bring a gun to school to kill me because I and I quote "openly walk around being gay and sh*t" I told people I was a lesbian if they asked because I am. He said that in front of the teacher who did not care at all we were just told to stop arguing and get back to work I wasn't even arguing I was listening to music, and he was bothering me. That all said I was still the one teacher pulled out of class to illegally search for drugs and weapons because I had blue hair and am openly gay in a small town. Added point no I have never drunk, done drugs, or smoked. And finally, yes, my mom did call the school and yell at them because where I live that is an illegal search without parent notice and they had zero reason to even assume it was me.
When a gay person exists suddenly they're the spawn of satan. But when a straight person threatens to murder a gay person then it's just arguing. What a world we live in.
Dude I've been waiting for the next one! Will definitely reach out to your patrion to support
Is it bad to say that the most chocking thing to me in this video was the revelation that Marilyn Manson is now a born again Christian. Geez. I had no idea.
Though, Kanye being present at his baptism does kind of feel like it checks out, somehow.
I was in my 20's in the 90's so it didn't affect me as much as teens in high school. I started listening to goth/alternative/punk music in the mid 80's so I also didn't pay attention to Marilyn Manson. I've always just done my own thing, I really don't give a crap at this point as to what the media says when it comes to subcultures. They NEVER get the whole picture right.
The most ironic thing about columbine, is than in an interview about what happened - Marilyn Manson was asked “What would you say to the kids at that school?”
Manson replied “Id just listen to the people that needed to be heard”
i graduated in 2021, and despite being 20 years separated as of my graduation, i was called a school shooter and given the “lemme see your wrists” line more than i ever expected in middle and early high school. i was a scene kid in middle school and later just a metalhead/punk kid and i never got it because i wasn’t even goth. don’t know what’s goth about a neon monster t-shirt in 2014 but who knows. glad you talked about this topic.
It’s always the religious and/or old republicans that leave marginalized groups to be the blame for violence when those who commit violence, especially with guns, are usually gun-loving republicans. I’m only halfway through, but I can definitely say that this video does an amazing job at blending humor and simple facts to disprove the fear-mongering that were stricken onto goths and many other minorities that get shat on by the gun-owning Christian republican. Love your editing a bunch as well! It’s very inspiring for me, who’s getting into editing and designing :3
Maybe that was true 70 years ago, but the roles have reversed when it comes to censorship. I understand why you feel this way. You're probably too young to remember the satanic panic. I'm 43 & I've seen a lot of change since the 80's & 90's. It is now the left that enforces censorship & the conservatives defending free speech. Tipper Gore founded the PMRC that started those parental advisory warnings & tried to censor heavy metal music. Most of the music and media that conservatives complained about years ago is now being cancelled by liberals who find it offensive. It's scary to think that free speech can be taken away by someone merely accusing it of being hate speech. Most republicans these days are mainly concerned with cost of living, inflation & economic issues. There will always be extremists from every group, but they are almost always a loud, vocal minority. There are no major right wing groups currently trying to censor any music, film or video games. The exception being when it comes to children. I'm not into politics, but I do agree with most traditional conservative values. I have many republican & democrat friends. The democrats are the only ones I see trying to censor peoples free speech. One of my friends at work is a passionate democrat. Absolutely hates republicans, even though almost all of his work friends are republican. He is the only one at our job that is offended by everything & tries to censor other people. He goes on a rant every time the song "Play That Funky Music White Boy" comes on the radio. Going on about how offensive the song is because white boy is a racial slur. Give me a break 😂 it's just a song. If you don't like it don't listen to it.
Also, it is absolutely absurd to claim that most violence is committed by republicans. The vast majority of violence in this country occurs in the major cities. All of which are blue voting cities. The small red areas in these cities are usually the only neighborhoods that don't have much violence. I've lived in NYC for over 40 years. We have a lot of violence here. It is extremely rare to hear about a republican committing an act of violence in my city.
@@nicholasrella6904 this is unrelated to most of your comment but play that funky music is such a good song
@@nicholasrella6904 exactly. the republicans=mass murderers is not factual at all.
34:45 I like the thing you are doing graphically here. It looks really good.
16:28 crustbag evolving into Vsauce right in front of us
Crustbag is one of my favorite humans
absolutely fantastic video!! i really like how you took the issue of the goth scapegoat and used it as a gateway into the bigger topic of moral panic.
i do have to mention though i got completely jumpscared when i heard the song in the outro because i did not expect to hear haircuts for men in a video of yours LOL i literally paused the video thinking it was playing in another tab of mine. needless to say, excellent choice in outro music B)
NEW CRUSTBAG VIDEO ABOUT MEEEEEEE!!!! EEEEEEE. Except the crime part. That one's pretty bad. I'm just goth
21:35 euphemisms have always been used by politicians to atract the most voters possible, for example; on the tompic of illegal immigration, "protecting american jobs" is most often about hating Mexicans, no one is tightening boreder security on the US-Canadian border, or pulling over white Europeans to check their visas. "protect the children" is here code for "I don't like this thing, let's ban it".
I love your videos, super entertaining while being educational and fun, much love
TW: nasty school abuse shit. I'm a somewhat well-balanced 40 year old, these days, but after Columbine, I was specifically singled out, targeted and preyed upon by an abuser in a position of authority at my high school because I "fit the profile" and no one would advocate for me, so this episode hit pretty hard.
As someone who’s lived through all of the moral panics mentioned here, let me say, you’ve nailed it. You did some pretty damn good research for this video.
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I really like this style of video for you!! You did a great job explaining the transition between topics but also how they correlate and go full circle. I’m a goth poc so this really made me feel heard, I go on rants like this to my friends but they don’t always understand the nuances to things like this lol
It’s crazy how you alone can make such a high quality video in a month