S2 Ep 2 - Social Media and the Battle for Our Mental Health
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Today we discuss how and why parents are suing social media over the impact it has had on families and youth. Dr. Shannon Poppito, clinical psychologist and Pyscho-Oncologist helps unpack this for us.
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"An illusion of connection" 💯💯💯
right! that was a mic drop for me too
First. This is an important conversation to be had.
Really is. It’s wild out here
Truth you may not want but need to hear
💯 it’s now a necessary deeply needed conversation
This episode was very thought-provoking. Makes me think about how I can improve the time I spend on social media. Sometimes I find myself craving physical social interaction, if that makes sense. Thank you for another stellar episode! God bless you. By the way- glad you are feeling better.
that makes a LOT of sense! that's something I think we can all relate to. it's how we become addicted or solely reliant on it is when it could become more concerning. appreciate you listening and sharing your thoughts.
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I've been making an effort to not be on social media all day. Taking breaks has helped me... delete social media off my phone and delete the shortcut off my laptop... go without it for 30 days and focus on other things. We need to put the phone down and go out and interact with real people in person.
ive heard a lot of people are starting to do that. i try to take weekends off since it is part of my biz in a way. I always appreciate the extended breaks, too. thanks for sharing that.
@@fitmencook I just wish I could be more social outside the house. I like meeting new people.
I’ve been studying social media for a good chunk of my life and I’ve got to say, I appreciate you reaching out to experts who have been studying social media. However, the way they are framing these results is far more detrimental to society than social media. Social media isn’t causing mental illness. It’s a tool that can accentuate mental illness. The framing of content is what determines the messages on social media. When you frame content to cater doomscrolling, it causes mental illness. Content that capitalizes on doomsday, apocalyptic, end of the line framing is accentuating mental illness. Influencers please stop adding to that message!
I can appreciate that sentiment. it's a fair critique. I think in making your point tho, you validate the one the doctor raises - if the "framing of content" - to use your words - is really at fault here, then shouldnt the companies that create and manage these platforms have more responsibility in safeguarding them? doomscrolling didnt come out of nowhere - a lot of these are engineered habits designed to keep people on platforms longer than they would b/c by design, I think we as humans are "skeptical creatures" - it's how we have survived this long. and, if you know this "content framing" is addicting (by design for monetary gain), then these platforms do have a responsibility to become part of the solution because social media CANNOT be social media without the platforms. you cant separate them - social media IS [insert whatever platform you use]. that's like cigarette makers saying - and they have actually - that cigarettes arent addictive, it's the people that continually use them and they should do better. so, likewise i'd say, "please stop sharing THAT message" - victim blaming.
@@fitmencook I agree, when it comes to companies, having a system of ethics is crucial. As a digital content creator for a financial institution the amount of hoops I have to go through to gain approval from compliance can be exhausting. I do it every day though, like a lot of other marketing teams. That doesn’t mean everyone cares about the health of others. This fear-mongering defense has been used to deter masses long before social media. The monarchy used the same fear-mongering to try and deter the masses from using the printing press. They believed fiction books would distort the reality and mental health of children. When War of the Worlds was first broadcast over the radio, people died because they believed it was true. Humanity has come to understand the consequences to these technological tools. Some of which, are now obsolete. The tools change through time, the only thing that has remained the same is the message influential individuals use to deter people from using the technology. Not everyone wants this to happen, as a UA-camr I can tell you have your audiences best interest in mind. Individuals, like the surgeon general, who are losing their influential status, because the internet is closing that gap of influence, don’t have true concerns for audiences. They’re framing the message to spread fear and doomsday mentality. Not because they care about mental health, but because they want their message to be prominent. Same situation goes for AI as well. It’s important to address how mental health affects children, but it’s important to do it with good intentions. If you’re doing it to reestablish your expertise and influence your heart is in the wrong place. Again not saying you are doing this, but a lot of elite, privileged individuals are.
@@Luscious_Nature first, I really appreciate this discussion and wish you were in Dallas b/c id invite on the podcast. lol
secondly, I think we are saying the same thing, the only difference is that i'm not trying to understand or determine the "intent" behind someone's message; rather, im just acknowledging the facts that you and I seemingly agree on -> this is an incredibly, powerful technology and it should be respected for its influence so let's make sure we use it wisely AND make sure the people developing it can put some safeguards in place for it.
I dont know whether or not the US Surgeon General is doing it because he feels like he's losing influence...it could also be that people are listening to folks on these platforms who are encouraging them to take medications solely made for animals and harming/killing themselves; or encouraging impressionable people (youth) to starve themselves or engage in self-harm activities as a way to deal with stress; or even attacking govt institutions/members because they believe their livelihood is under attack, etc. There are a lot of reasons that could be beyond just the "fear of losing influence." Real lives are being impacted here. so yeah, social media is not inherently bad - it started out well, remember?! but the race to trap people on platforms longer to get the most engagement to compete with others is creating a culture that is potentially harmful to all of us. that's all the US Surgeon General actually said - "he's not sure there are adequate safeguards in place to keep [our most vulnerable] safe online." why would anyone have an issue with that?
@@fitmencook Looking at that message, it sounds fantastic right? He encourages policymakers to fund research, he encourages tech companies to innovative their systems, he encourages researchers to study and be innovative. Pay close attention though to what he tells parents and children, the majority of individuals who are not in positions of power. He tells them to be cautious, he tells them to put up the phone, he cautions them to be concerned about their practices. See the difference in those messages. Encouraging those who have privilege to innovate the technology for the masses, who could never understand it like they can. Again a position elite individuals have always taken when it comes to technological advancements in mass media.
So finish your argument then - what is he actually trying to DO? Otherwise, your message could be fear mongering as well - “don’t trust the govt and the elite, etc”. Make a point and back it up with evidence. Don’t just say - “be careful and be skeptical of him because of who he is.” I’m serious - if there’s a point to be made, pls share for all of us. Otherwise…
What pseudo-science are we getting into here?
dunno. 🤷🏾♂ maybe explain what you mean? (also be sure to include your credentials in the response - it's only fair you do that if you're going to critique the 'psuedo-science' 😬)
@fitmencook For sure. I'm a Ph.D. candidate in atmospheric chemistry, with a direct relative impacted by cancer. I don't think a "track dad" has much say into the science, so we'll skip that. Maybe I misunderstood, as Dr. Poppito was talking about her cancer patients. She seemed to be talking about the 'silliness' of a cancer patient's feelings @3:16. The 'Rules and guidelines' and her place in the metaverse @10:35. She was a Pepito? (You may have to educate me on that). As she said @12:00 it's pie in the sky, you're trying to regulate a private business collecting private user data. I checked out @16:35, cortisol, testosterone the hormone for irritability and anger? It's a doom and gloom show you're putting on.
Where was the battle for mental health? Maybe you did something in the last half of the video I missed.
@@fitmencook If I'm not mistaken the last peer review article she co-authored was in 2019. I don't think she has a first author paper out? Can you direct me to some of her work? It'd be great if you put some of your speakers credentials into the description.
@@fitmencookThe link to the study you reference, www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/sg-youth-mental-health-social-media-advisory.pdf.
"More research is needed to fully understand the impact of social media;
however, the current body of evidence indicates that while social media may
have benefits for some children and adolescents, there are ample indicators
that social media can also have a profound risk of harm to the mental health
and well-being of children and adolescents. At this time, we do not yet have
enough evidence to determine if social media is sufficiently safe for children
and adolescents."