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  • Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to reports that New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft warned Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank "not to trust" Bill Belichick during the interview process. Unc & Ocho say Kraft's behavior is wrong after benefiting from Belichick's leadership for years, leading the Patriots to six Super Bowl victories.
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  • @BoCat_Johnson
    @BoCat_Johnson 27 днів тому +491

    He never forgave him for pushing Tom out and then watching him win another one for Tampa. He had to get his lick back 😂

    • @MDw1LL311
      @MDw1LL311 26 днів тому +20

      Was hoping Ocho would use this to back up his counterpoint but hes simply too slow

    • @S1I2D
      @S1I2D 26 днів тому +4

      As long as you make upper management look good,they're willing to tolerate you, but as soon as you start stumbling and you're taking the shine away, then you're gone! Golden State Warriors let their long-time general manager go when the team started losing.

    • @jamargraham6707
      @jamargraham6707 26 днів тому +10

      @@S1I2D What are you talking about Warriors won a chip in 2022 and made it to the second last year. So they pushed Bob Myers out for what? Bob walked away because he saw that the dynasty was about to come to a end.

    • @kelvind5215
      @kelvind5215 26 днів тому +1

      That part

    • @GODISGREAT_12
      @GODISGREAT_12 26 днів тому +4

      After Tom went crying to him about them drafting Jimmy garoppolo??

  • @user-hc2wr6vd2b
    @user-hc2wr6vd2b 27 днів тому +557

    Don't trust him but u trusted him for almost 20years 😂people these days

    • @EL_LeonFredo9
      @EL_LeonFredo9 27 днів тому +45

      He convinced Kraft Tom was washed how would you feel 😂

    • @MrBoxreviews
      @MrBoxreviews 27 днів тому

      This is a stupid comment. You can have trust in someone prior and then lose trust in them. Bill has nothing the last 4 years

    • @vibecheck9459
      @vibecheck9459 26 днів тому +23

      @@EL_LeonFredo9if Tom had stayed in NE, yes Brady would be washed, only because the defense was really on decline as well.

    • @stephonhopkins4569
      @stephonhopkins4569 26 днів тому +19

      @@EL_LeonFredo9lol if Brady would have stayed the end of his career would have been worse lol patriots didn’t have the pieces the buccs had. If you can’t understand that or Kraft can’t then that’s just goofy

    • @Chalee711
      @Chalee711 26 днів тому +11

      U guys dont even watch games, its so obivous u guys are clueless thinking pats would have been this bad if tom stayed

  • @iloveyouuuu135
    @iloveyouuuu135 26 днів тому +129

    “Let’s say you and Rell. Ya’ll go ya’ll separate ways, but-“ “WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH” LMFAO 😭😭😭😭

    • @jacuzzishoes
      @jacuzzishoes 26 днів тому +8

      lmao

    • @94Knights
      @94Knights 26 днів тому +10

      Then he rolled along with it 😭

    • @qljjj35610
      @qljjj35610 26 днів тому +9

      Ocho wasn't trying to hear that mess. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @lw32818
      @lw32818 26 днів тому

      😂😂

  • @FuriousTheGeorge
    @FuriousTheGeorge 27 днів тому +98

    Let's not forget how Robert Kraft got that pepper grinder finish from the massage parlor and all that got swept under the rug.

    • @tommyfu9271
      @tommyfu9271 26 днів тому +12

      Who cares what 2 consenting adults do

    • @I34VVI3U5
      @I34VVI3U5 26 днів тому +8

      @@tommyfu9271 The only reason we know about that, is that it wasn't entirely clear, if they were both in a position to consent.

    • @petrinaseville3061
      @petrinaseville3061 26 днів тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😢😢😢😅😅😅

    • @I-do-not-read-replies
      @I-do-not-read-replies 26 днів тому +1

      @@I34VVI3U5stop 😂 common sense

    • @niners2162
      @niners2162 26 днів тому

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • @ericdykes1307
    @ericdykes1307 27 днів тому +163

    Y'all have to remember,Rob Kraft is mad at him because they let Tom Brady go and he won a Superbowl with Tampa Bay his first season. Point blank

    • @dutchff7908
      @dutchff7908 26 днів тому +15

      How ungrateful for the other 6 superbowls he helped them get.

    • @youtubeaccountidaho9858
      @youtubeaccountidaho9858 26 днів тому +1

      @@dutchff7908Tom

    • @JohanLWill7_
      @JohanLWill7_ 26 днів тому +16

      Tom won that last one because of the talent around him

    • @Bandogang_SniperGaming-ch8kn
      @Bandogang_SniperGaming-ch8kn 26 днів тому +4

      @@JohanLWill7_he still had a great season

    • @waynetho6572
      @waynetho6572 26 днів тому +3

      ​@@Bandogang_SniperGaming-ch8knhe had a great season because of the talent around them.

  • @JMB72
    @JMB72 27 днів тому +106

    More concerning is how or who let that information out about the conversation with Craft. The Falcons should've kept that to themselves.

    • @rosemarydement-tucker4111
      @rosemarydement-tucker4111 26 днів тому +8

      In ATL. we keep it 100!!

    • @qbconnect2883
      @qbconnect2883 26 днів тому +5

      Somebody's talking

    • @michael2134c
      @michael2134c 26 днів тому +2

      Shits crazy for real man.

    • @LuisVaal
      @LuisVaal 26 днів тому +4

      @@rosemarydement-tucker4111y’all ain’t keeping shit 100

    • @kstar1956
      @kstar1956 25 днів тому +4

      How is disclosing a private conversation keeping it 💯 nah that's called talking too much and it's not it😒

  • @kelvind5215
    @kelvind5215 27 днів тому +113

    You have to remember coach tried to get rid of Brady and Kraft didn't like that

    • @CharlieXFBA
      @CharlieXFBA 27 днів тому +21

      But ain't Kraft the owner? He got final say so...

    • @CaptainDerty
      @CaptainDerty 27 днів тому +3

      @@dffndjdjd helped win 6

    • @paulmann5328
      @paulmann5328 26 днів тому +8

      ​@CharlieXFBA THAT PART. By the time people realize Kraft was the problem the whole time it's gonna be way too late.

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 26 днів тому +4

      That’s not why Kraft had a problem with him. Kraft overruled belichik when he tried to keep garropolo over Brady.

    • @Amodernelder
      @Amodernelder 26 днів тому

      @@CharlieXFBAThat’s what I don’t get. He OWNS the team. If he wanted Brady to stay then he could have told BB he stays.

  • @DueceSpice
    @DueceSpice 27 днів тому +148

    BILL HAD A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR CALLING OFFENSIVE PLAYS FOR A SECOND YEAR QB..

    • @fadercreek
      @fadercreek 27 днів тому +5

      yup the only mistake he ever made

    • @ballinforlife9
      @ballinforlife9 27 днів тому +25

      @@fadercreekbenching the teams best CB in a SB where they gave up 41 points seems like a pretty big mistake, also letting go of the best player in NFL history prematurely, all the misses in the draft on WRs, but the good things he did outweighed the bad

    • @antcantcook960
      @antcantcook960 27 днів тому +1

      @@fadercreeklol

    • @Skott.Mikel_Barbershop_talk
      @Skott.Mikel_Barbershop_talk 26 днів тому +6

      He thought he could get away with it and forgot Tom wasn't there 😂

    • @cmac1573
      @cmac1573 26 днів тому

      @@ballinforlife9 He was the 7th best player in the secondary that year.

  • @ajgrand
    @ajgrand 27 днів тому +78

    “What have you done for me lately” isn’t cause for someone talking bad about you behind your back or to stop your opportunities. Especially when y’all business relationships have been EXTREMELY fruitful. We can break apart if the wins stop coming in, but we can remain cordial and I will not talk bad about you or try to stop your opportunities

    • @PlayafromtheHimalayas
      @PlayafromtheHimalayas 26 днів тому

      That's not how references work. If you fk up at one job, they're gonna tell the next possible employer if there is something of concern.

    • @Ashish-xm9ol
      @Ashish-xm9ol 26 днів тому +12

      @@PlayafromtheHimalayas ppl need to stop comparing sports to regular jobs lol the guy won 6 rings, 9 Super-Bowl appearances. If you make your company into a billion dollar company and then it gets a bit iffy at the end, does the employer say "this guy sucks"?

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 26 днів тому +4

      @@PlayafromtheHimalayashow did belichik f up? They won 6 super bowls

    • @PlayafromtheHimalayas
      @PlayafromtheHimalayas 26 днів тому +1

      @@spenser6353 He bounced Tom and hasn't done shit since. Tom won a sb the next year.

    • @bsfilter8190
      @bsfilter8190 26 днів тому +2

      You're a better person than Kraft is. It takes a quality person to be able to walk away and be grateful and respectful.

  • @Scruface954
    @Scruface954 26 днів тому +16

    kraft: why hire a guy that beat u?
    blank: you're right bob!

  • @lavontrichardson2602
    @lavontrichardson2602 27 днів тому +50

    Agree with this why stop another coach success he's the one made you 10 times more famous and your team organization this is dumb right here

    • @EL_LeonFredo9
      @EL_LeonFredo9 27 днів тому +4

      He kicked out Tom that’s inexcusable

    • @King_Of_Clubz
      @King_Of_Clubz 27 днів тому +5

      He sealed his fate when he got rid of Brady. We would be fools to think otherwise...

    • @PENPAL555
      @PENPAL555 26 днів тому +2

      Craft & A. Blank are friends & he gave him his honest opinion. Belicheck doesn't have a job bc of Belicheck. The game & the players have evolved & he is stuck back in what HE CONSIDERS THE GOOD OLD DAYS 🤭.
      Craft is also PISSED that he listened to Belicheck in ref. to Brady. Belicheck had Craft & a whole hell of a lot of other people 🤷‍♀️ thinking, that the PATRIOTS SUCCESS WAS DUE TO HIM & NOT BRADY🤯🤯🤯

    • @drago990
      @drago990 26 днів тому +1

      @@EL_LeonFredo9He didn’t kick Tom out, Tom left because he wanted to

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 26 днів тому +1

      @@King_Of_ClubzKraft overruled him when he wanted garropolo over Brady. So how can you say belichik got rid of Brady? Kraft can always overrule him

  • @user-gy4lq1id1z
    @user-gy4lq1id1z 27 днів тому +27

    Mr Craft tripping. Mr Craft needs massage again😂

  • @LuckyDuckie115
    @LuckyDuckie115 26 днів тому +9

    Why do people forget bill belichik went out of his way to not only to draft brady but made sure he had a roster spot. Brady was qb#4 in his rookie season, it was pretty much a wasted roster spot. Belichik knew what he had with brady

    • @jamesanthony5681
      @jamesanthony5681 26 днів тому +2

      Not exactly. Belichick went out of his way? Brady was a 6th round pick, with 6 QB's taken before him in the 2000 draft. Neither Belichick nor Kraft knew what they had in Tom. Even in 2001, when Brady took over from Bledsoe early in the season.

    • @CaLbaTr00se
      @CaLbaTr00se 25 днів тому +2

      @@jamesanthony5681You're right though I'd say he "went out of his way" to start Brady over the QB with the huge contract so he did have an idea what he had, unless you meant Brady's final form which was much more evolved than his 2001 self.

    • @jamesanthony5681
      @jamesanthony5681 25 днів тому

      @@CaLbaTr00se When Brady assumed the starter role in mid- late September 2001, the Pats were winning games under Tom, and Belichick didn't want to disrupt a winning formula. Bill would be disengenuous if he said he knew at the time that Brady would become what he became. After all, Brady was not rock-solid in some of those early games.

    • @jq8287
      @jq8287 24 дні тому

      No he didn’t

    • @CaLbaTr00se
      @CaLbaTr00se 23 дні тому

      @@jamesanthony5681I agree that Belichick did not know what Brady would end up being, I imagine most people did not. My point is that was a big move to start Brady over the incumbent face of the franchise. Belichick didn't like gunslingers, he's lucky he had Brady to replace Bledsoe with instead of an aging Vinny Testaverde, referring his Browns tenure.

  • @alexcorona
    @alexcorona 27 днів тому +168

    Kraft turning into Jerry Jones 2.0…. He’s been mad he didn’t get any credit for the SB wins.

    • @georgealvarez1195
      @georgealvarez1195 27 днів тому +26

      Yeah the guy who gained the most from those superbowls is mad 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @dynamitedingo7720
      @dynamitedingo7720 27 днів тому +1

      If it is true

    • @user-nw1us6kj2v
      @user-nw1us6kj2v 27 днів тому +34

      I don’t think it’s that . Bill told him Tom was washed and to let him go . Brady followed it up with a Super Bowl and 3 play off appearances . We all know what the pats have been the last couple years

    • @deesee2051
      @deesee2051 27 днів тому +4

      What do you mean credit ? They both write the checks that’s the ultimate credit and Jerry Jones has been the GM since he bought the Cowboys Kraft was never that

    • @blackmask494
      @blackmask494 27 днів тому +14

      Naw Kraft don't seem like the type to want the lime light

  • @kermit63
    @kermit63 27 днів тому +27

    Hey Uncle
    It's not just Quincy Jones' production that elevated MJ. Rod Temperton's penmanship has a lot to do with it as well!

    • @daveclark8337
      @daveclark8337 26 днів тому +7

      It's not like MJ was a slouch as leader of the Jackson 5.

    • @macdreezy794
      @macdreezy794 26 днів тому +2

      Facts

    • @randybarnes4440
      @randybarnes4440 26 днів тому +4

      This!!! Rod Temperton writing was everything thru 3 albums!

    • @mario98730
      @mario98730 24 дні тому +4

      1000% shoutout to the homie Rod. That 3 headed monster is why MJ is STILL one of the most popular artists ever

  • @tommyfu9271
    @tommyfu9271 27 днів тому +22

    I could understand if Kraft said BB cant relate to players today or that the game has past him by in his opinion. But to say you cant trust someone you let run your team for 20 years is a gutless joke.

    • @Z_Rodriguez13
      @Z_Rodriguez13 26 днів тому +1

      That they also got rid of, I know this is crazy but over a 20 year relationship things can change, we don’t know, you don’t know who bill is behind close doors you dk who Kraft is behind closed doors but they do

    • @tommyfu9271
      @tommyfu9271 26 днів тому +2

      @@Z_Rodriguez13 but he kept him for 4 years after Brady left including giving him an extension a year or two ago. No way BB was untrustworthy. It's coward shit from Kraft.

    • @jamargraham6707
      @jamargraham6707 26 днів тому

      The man lied to him about Brady so he is right don't trust him. Also he probably kept him on because people would do what they are doing now making BB a victim. Honestly this is his karma for what has done the players all these years use them till he had no more use for them😂😂

    • @tommyfu9271
      @tommyfu9271 26 днів тому +2

      @@jamargraham6707 he didn't lie. He may have given an assessment that was wrong.
      Lying would be if he made up shit like Brady is up all night partying going on coke benders etc so Kraft didn't resign him bc of that. Saying Brady is in his 40s and I don't think he's got much left isn't lying.
      He gave BB an extension 2 years after Brady won the SB with Tampa and now he doesn't trust him 🤣🤣

    • @jamargraham6707
      @jamargraham6707 26 днів тому

      @@tommyfu9271 No he lied he wanted to prove he could win without Brady and got burnt 😂 😂.

  • @aznpanda510x
    @aznpanda510x 26 днів тому +4

    That owner loved Tom like a son and he won a championship without him. He he thinking it was coaching fault

  • @maulxofficial
    @maulxofficial 26 днів тому +8

    Kraft saw how Bill let Brady go and win a Super Bowl with Tampa Bay. Kraft wanted that 7th ring with Tom.

    • @brob8204
      @brob8204 26 днів тому +2

      I don't think many of us saw how much that hurt and discouraged Mr. Kraft. Maybe not even Bill.

    • @marrioburnett9625
      @marrioburnett9625 24 дні тому +1

      They were not getting another one. Tom went to a great situation in Tampa

    • @ChristianMedina-fe1kf
      @ChristianMedina-fe1kf 14 днів тому

      If Kraft wanted Brady he could’ve just fired bill he chose bill so he’s not completely innocent in that regard

  • @cpmcmanaman
    @cpmcmanaman 27 днів тому +4

    Is there anything more fun than watching Unc and Ocho? I think not :))

  • @JS-to3yj
    @JS-to3yj 27 днів тому +35

    Treating a legend like they treat black coaches.

    • @EL_LeonFredo9
      @EL_LeonFredo9 27 днів тому +6

      Or how he treated Tom

    • @chriscampbell387
      @chriscampbell387 26 днів тому

      What black coach has that resume lmao No, now I don't want to hear no excuses. I'm bringing Bill up everytime!!!

    • @jarronmarkel6514
      @jarronmarkel6514 26 днів тому

      @@EL_LeonFredo9lol ya forgot how he did drew 😂😂😂😂

    • @thetruthisthelight0910
      @thetruthisthelight0910 26 днів тому

      They ha

    • @EL_LeonFredo9
      @EL_LeonFredo9 26 днів тому

      @@jarronmarkel6514 nope not at all

  • @divineiamking
    @divineiamking 26 днів тому +19

    He regrets listening to Bill to get rid of Tom. Plus Bill cost them 2 super bowls

    • @FatboyReg
      @FatboyReg 25 днів тому +1

      Eli and Nick Foles is Brady daddy

    • @J4Washington
      @J4Washington 25 днів тому

      If Kraft got rid of Bill for Brady, he still doesn't win the Superbowl. Brady doesn't win without a good defense & the Pats defense was handcrafted by Bill it won't run without him.

  • @seriousbutfunny2
    @seriousbutfunny2 27 днів тому +5

    Kraft is upset because Bill late Brady go because he said he was washed up. And Brady went on to win a SB, and the Patriots did jack!
    If Kraft could have a redo, he would have gotten rid of Bill B and kept Brady.

  • @dodboykin4572
    @dodboykin4572 27 днів тому +5

    Robert Craft would be a perfect guest on culp shay shay....

  • @Michael_ATL_82
    @Michael_ATL_82 27 днів тому +7

    It's something else Kraft not telling us.
    #BRING IN 50 CENT🔥🔥🔥

    • @EL_LeonFredo9
      @EL_LeonFredo9 27 днів тому +3

      He kicked out Brady cause of bill that’s why 😂

  • @ericmorris9818
    @ericmorris9818 27 днів тому +19

    I understand that New England and Atlanta owners are close and the conversation was had. But what about all the other coaching vacancies and the teams that did not pursue Bill?? Did Kraft call them too??

    • @reemo2119
      @reemo2119 27 днів тому +23

      You think the owners don’t gossip like high school girls…

    • @leir2005
      @leir2005 27 днів тому +3

      Word got out that Kraft reportedly made a call. That call made him toxic to the other teams too

  • @ricol9291
    @ricol9291 26 днів тому +3

    Kraft knows some behind the scenes info, and they said Arthur Blank is one of his best friends, so I believe Kraft was acting as a good friend knowing what he knows about Bill

  • @jackgremer3745
    @jackgremer3745 24 дні тому +1

    Keep up the UCL and PL commentary it was a nice touch, coming from a long time follower of Joga Bonita

  • @user-vz5fb6bx7s
    @user-vz5fb6bx7s 27 днів тому +3

    Totally agree with Unc. What if Lennon and Mcartney never worked toether? Brady and Bellichick were magic.

  • @Chalee711
    @Chalee711 27 днів тому +31

    Kraft realized Brady was the reason for 6 superbowls, not Bill

    • @willisix2554
      @willisix2554 26 днів тому +4

      EXACTLY!

    • @swalex417
      @swalex417 26 днів тому +2

      Belichick was the only Coach to like something about him. He gave Brady his job

    • @dougiedoug8994
      @dougiedoug8994 26 днів тому +1

      So their defense doesn't get no credit? For example, you can't say Tom Brady won them their 6th super bowl win because he didn't. The Defense was the main reason why they won the 6th SB.

    • @postmastersgt1670
      @postmastersgt1670 25 днів тому

      ​@@dougiedoug8994do BB defense get credit for the 3x Super Bowls they cost #TB12 who put them in position to win all 3xs.

    • @joeclaridy
      @joeclaridy 25 днів тому

      You must be high, the first 3 and the last 2 were because of his defense and Brady not putting the ball in harms way.

  • @harrybaulsach
    @harrybaulsach 26 днів тому +25

    More power to chad. I couldn't take getting cut off when i speak multiple times every episode

    • @kasiahroy2082
      @kasiahroy2082 26 днів тому +5

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @kobebryant24861
      @kobebryant24861 26 днів тому +4

      Shannon loves to hear Shannon talk smh and he can never be wrong

    • @AndyKapp
      @AndyKapp 25 днів тому

      Yes you could, because it’s not your show and you’re still getting paid.

    • @tramarparker7725
      @tramarparker7725 25 днів тому +2

      @@AndyKappppl love trying to put confusion in shyt

    • @sankaharris5796
      @sankaharris5796 24 дні тому

      Chad doesn’t need to talk some time

  • @TheNamronTV
    @TheNamronTV 26 днів тому

    Mr blank is such a great guy. I also run into him jogging on west paces ferry. If you see him say hello.

  • @MrMoore88
    @MrMoore88 26 днів тому

    @7:18 ... "OH, THEY REMEMBER THE BAD!!!"
    😭😭😭

  • @reginaldshort8486
    @reginaldshort8486 26 днів тому +3

    Those assistant coaches had hall of famers at positions to cover up their flaws.

  • @R.Outler
    @R.Outler 27 днів тому +5

    Business is NOW, not yesterday 😂

  • @marcusrichardson1460
    @marcusrichardson1460 26 днів тому +3

    I can’t lie, I’m starting to wonder if Belechik is even better than Mike McCarthy without Tom Brady.

    • @willisix2554
      @willisix2554 26 днів тому +2

      Just look at his record without tom brady that's all you need to know

    • @jeffjarrett7770
      @jeffjarrett7770 26 днів тому

      But you also got look at even with Tom they were losing talent, plus when Brady left they lost even more players. But the patriots culture is already set. Now that there’s a new regime we will see what the pats are like

    • @marcusrichardson1460
      @marcusrichardson1460 26 днів тому +1

      @@willisix2554exactly!

  • @Raider352
    @Raider352 27 днів тому +3

    You should never give all the control to anyone.

  • @polopolo8105
    @polopolo8105 26 днів тому +3

    What happens if bill win a superbowl with another team.Will it be kraft fault,just like it was bill fault when brady won a superbowl without bill.

    • @postmastersgt1670
      @postmastersgt1670 25 днів тому

      Thats not gonna happen because Kraft have poisoned the well with all the owners. BB not getting a head coaching job in the NFL he is done.

  • @timdickens8612
    @timdickens8612 27 днів тому +1

    Ocho nailed it with the resume example

  • @tkflanagan4449
    @tkflanagan4449 26 днів тому

    Ocho, You are AWESOME!! I'm 70yrs and I like the Cut of your "JIB" my Brother!! I like your 0ppinion on Sports and Life...🍀 👍👍

  • @Dee-GBE
    @Dee-GBE 27 днів тому +5

    I guarantee you Ocho has no idea who Don Van Natta Jr. even is. He just be saying yeah to everything.

    • @thetruthisthelight0910
      @thetruthisthelight0910 26 днів тому

      He was a football player. It's not unheard of.

    • @Dee-GBE
      @Dee-GBE 26 днів тому

      @@thetruthisthelight0910 my point is he’s not prepared for any segment he doesn’t know anything but football

  • @MiKeY04TMNT
    @MiKeY04TMNT 26 днів тому +6

    I rarely agree with Ocho but he's right on this one. Bill didn't deliver and do his job. his boss can do what he wants after that.

  • @shwshnk85
    @shwshnk85 26 днів тому

    I be yelling at Chad during Uncs opening monologue…like bruh🤦🏿‍♂️😑

  • @empacttv3954
    @empacttv3954 26 днів тому +2

    Don’t be a slave to loyalty 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @georgeperry6887
    @georgeperry6887 27 днів тому +17

    So the 3 LOSING SEASONS after Tom Brady left doesn't tell you any owner ANYTHING?

    • @WopJr
      @WopJr 27 днів тому +2

      so you saying it was 100% bill fault for that?

    • @YouReallyDontKnow
      @YouReallyDontKnow 27 днів тому +1

      No it doesn’t. After he left the team was just terrible. None of the players played well. Had nothing to do with coaching.

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 27 днів тому +9

      The Patriots were 10-7 in 2021 in Max Jones rookie season. They had two losing seasons.

    • @1VetsVision
      @1VetsVision 27 днів тому +1

      ​@@maskedman5657 Exactly. They don't know what they're talking about. They don't know anything about football past what the commentators say. They're on that basic level still

    • @aaronjackson9385
      @aaronjackson9385 27 днів тому +1

      ​@@maskedman5657
      Losing record in 2020, 2022 and 2023. Thats not three seasons??

  • @ceemegs83
    @ceemegs83 27 днів тому +3

    Perhaps we’re framing the relationship incorrectly. Maybe Kraft looked at Belichick as a minority invested business partner who at the end of the day was wrong about a business decision: getting rid of Tom Brady. If you saw one of your other business partners about to do the same business, you’d have a fiduciary responsibility of letting him know he’s about to make a mistake lol.
    I mean, when Belichick makes that alleged quote about his guys being soldiers, it’s an indictment that this great coach is deliberately NOT picking leaders…the hell I want that for?!

  • @sparklepiebaby
    @sparklepiebaby 26 днів тому +1

    Ocho turn your light on 😂

  • @steveswanson7648
    @steveswanson7648 26 днів тому +1

    I got my le portier yesterday ❤

  • @vitosmith8195
    @vitosmith8195 27 днів тому +11

    Bill lied to Kraft and He benched Malcolm out of spite towards Kraft because. Kraft made him trade Jimmy Garrapolo ....Belicheck benched Malcolm just to get back at Tom and Kraft...

    • @mobeezy81
      @mobeezy81 26 днів тому +1

      🫵🏽🫵🏽✅✅ and Tom still almost overcame that super bowl. Don't forget he had Tom out there trying to catch passes in the most important game.

    • @stefanramlal547
      @stefanramlal547 26 днів тому

      Okay Mr Wikersham ! SMH

  • @blackmamba9686
    @blackmamba9686 27 днів тому +12

    I smell collusion 😂😂😂😂

  • @sunnowg66
    @sunnowg66 26 днів тому +2

    Chad be winging it

  • @TentomushiHH
    @TentomushiHH 26 днів тому +2

    6 Rings and this is how they do you😂

  • @michaeldelarosa2480
    @michaeldelarosa2480 26 днів тому +3

    Kraft is doing it because Bill is the reason they moved on from Tom

  • @illacook3636
    @illacook3636 27 днів тому +12

    I think Kraft is still upset that Bill convinced him to let Tom go, and Tom continued to win a championship and stayed in the playoffs while still playing at a high level. It was Bill who should have been let go.

    • @tommyfu9271
      @tommyfu9271 26 днів тому

      But he extended him 2 years after that

    • @daveclark8337
      @daveclark8337 26 днів тому

      Actually Tom said 'I'm leaving' and Kraft let him go. Tom didn't want to say "you have to choose between me or Hoodie.'" Tom just left, led his new team to win a Super Bowl and removed all doubt. Because Bill went 82-98 after Tom left.

    • @Ringking-ws7bz
      @Ringking-ws7bz 26 днів тому

      There is now garantee Tom would have won another ring if stayed or went. Alot of people came in to tampa that one or 2 season stretch. Pats wouldn't had Gronk or Mike Evans

    • @userknonothing
      @userknonothing 25 днів тому

      Yea maybe, maybe not. This is low low, guy coaches your team for 20 years and 6 super bowls but now your afraid

  • @Blazeduran33
    @Blazeduran33 24 дні тому

    Unc such a unc man you gotta love him

  • @lovenewhair35
    @lovenewhair35 26 днів тому +1

    This show is awesome I hope you guys win all kinds of awards I also❤️ love Chad and Rell 🥰

    • @lovenewhair35
      @lovenewhair35 26 днів тому

      He used him he didn’t trust him

  • @chrisrobinson8339
    @chrisrobinson8339 26 днів тому +7

    So we're going to ignore Robert Kraft being caught in that massage parlor.

    • @jamargraham6707
      @jamargraham6707 26 днів тому +1

      So what if the man was in a massage parlor what does that have to do with anything😂😂😂. You have never been to a massage parlor or a strip club?

    • @chrisrobinson8339
      @chrisrobinson8339 26 днів тому

      @@jamargraham6707 he got caught in a sting.

    • @1chrischoice
      @1chrischoice 26 днів тому +1

      @@chrisrobinson8339so what does that have to do with the price of tea in Japan

  • @kamarimoorehead6922
    @kamarimoorehead6922 27 днів тому +15

    I’m confused 🤔 do the players want to win and hustle for it or lose and have fun nights and get drunk and crash cars and have losing records and short careers?

    • @yourboiquanis9686
      @yourboiquanis9686 27 днів тому +3

      They only care about the money

    • @WopJr
      @WopJr 27 днів тому +4

      fun nights duh, only the fans really care about winning

    • @kamarimoorehead6922
      @kamarimoorehead6922 27 днів тому

      @dffndjdjd they're still getting hurt in practices not having on any pads and not even hitting 🤣🤣 they're too soft and not conditioning well most of them have gym muscles but pop corn toughness

    • @1chrischoice
      @1chrischoice 26 днів тому +1

      🤔 I’m pretty sure the Rams won a superbowl and Bill isn’t the coach, I wanna say the Chiefs won a couple of super bowls and Andy Reid ain’t shit like Bill…maybe players realized that militaristic way isn’t the only way to win, especially since Bill couldn’t even make the playoffs.

  • @keepingit763
    @keepingit763 26 днів тому +1

    I’m glad Belichick is getting what he has been dishing out to other people!

  • @churd78able
    @churd78able 26 днів тому +1

    😂😂😂😂 she gave me some😂😂

  • @JonJonTV1
    @JonJonTV1 26 днів тому +5

    Shannon a weirdo frfr why u always mentioning yo homie wife and want to make that example you secretly plotting man smh

    • @jeffjarrett7770
      @jeffjarrett7770 26 днів тому

      Idk Shannon been single so long he just might be plottin

    • @edgonzalez186
      @edgonzalez186 26 днів тому

      Ocho brings up her constantly unnecessarily. It's Ocho's fault for putting her in the spotlight. That was for an example, and Ocho overreacted.

  • @tae5257
    @tae5257 27 днів тому +31

    That’s what billichick gets for treating Tom Brady like shit and pushing him out the back door this is his karma

  • @michaelrandle7296
    @michaelrandle7296 26 днів тому +1

    Let's be honest; it's not like Belichick hasn't done this to players before...

  • @jWx93
    @jWx93 26 днів тому +2

    Unc Apple WAS Steve Jobs

  • @albertogomez78787
    @albertogomez78787 27 днів тому +6

    Da Dirty Dirty..

  • @HakeemTheDream616
    @HakeemTheDream616 26 днів тому +1

    That statue ceremony is going to be really awkward now...

  • @cguy2guy511
    @cguy2guy511 25 днів тому

    Man I've been watching your show for months now. I ain't yet subscribed and I still ain't seen no f****** Ocho cry. You'all be capping.🤣🤣🤣

  • @1VetsVision
    @1VetsVision 27 днів тому +3

    Bill Belichick has 8 super bowls, not 6

    • @aaronjackson9385
      @aaronjackson9385 27 днів тому +2

      Nobody cares about coordinator rings..

    • @trainkobe2424
      @trainkobe2424 26 днів тому +1

      @@aaronjackson9385well wat about the 6 🤣🤣 dats ain’t nobody else got

    • @aaronjackson9385
      @aaronjackson9385 26 днів тому

      @@trainkobe2424 the 6 are legit. But that ol OC and DC rings dont mean shit.

    • @1VetsVision
      @1VetsVision 25 днів тому +2

      @@aaronjackson9385 I do, because I know my football history and nobody should diminish anyone's accomplishments.

    • @aaronjackson9385
      @aaronjackson9385 25 днів тому

      @@1VetsVision so do I, and for some reason no one mentions assistant coach rings to praise anyone else? Where is the praise for Norv Turner, Ray Rhodes or Gary Kubiak? What about Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel? Its non existent. Its agenda based bs because he failed as a HC without Brady. Alot of forgettable coaches have coordinator rings.

  • @kene7884
    @kene7884 27 днів тому +9

    Kraft has every right. Didn't play butler and cost us 1 ring vs Philly. Ran Brady off, and had a dc coaching a rookie qb!

    • @tommyboy0208
      @tommyboy0208 27 днів тому +4

      Butler was also one of the worst ranked CBs that year

    • @timbrown9796
      @timbrown9796 27 днів тому

      We will see what u win for now on? Smh

    • @T-Role
      @T-Role 27 днів тому +1

      We was gone beat NE no matter what

    • @kene7884
      @kene7884 26 днів тому

      @@tommyboy0208 he was the best WE had!

  • @terrancefleming3069
    @terrancefleming3069 21 день тому

    “She gave me some, for closure” lol Ocho crazy lol

  • @dwoolf7019
    @dwoolf7019 27 днів тому +1

    You can like what someone does for you, but not necessarily how they do it. Who knows how long Bill's coaching style or personality was wearing on him.

  • @javiercota9494
    @javiercota9494 27 днів тому +16

    Bill can’t rely on this soft generation
    The comments reflect it

    • @EL_LeonFredo9
      @EL_LeonFredo9 27 днів тому +5

      He sure could’ve relied on Brady his record without him reflects it

    • @MauricioCastillo-jd4lg
      @MauricioCastillo-jd4lg 27 днів тому

      Brady learned that from bill​@@EL_LeonFredo9

    • @persephone9360
      @persephone9360 27 днів тому

      🤡

    • @antcantcook960
      @antcantcook960 27 днів тому +1

      Bill has a losing record outside Brady starts😂

    • @darnell16player
      @darnell16player 27 днів тому +4

      Yeah I believe the players coming in are softer and can’t handle old school coaching and such but also they’re too obsessed on the flashy side of things and never the fundamentals

  • @WrestlingIsReal649
    @WrestlingIsReal649 27 днів тому +10

    Dam they doing belichick dirty smh 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @Jay-pm4er
      @Jay-pm4er 27 днів тому +6

      Bill doing bill dirty

    • @TempeSoldier123
      @TempeSoldier123 27 днів тому +5

      He’s done a lot of folks dirty too. I ain’t got so sympathy for him.

    • @andreasdwiputra8818
      @andreasdwiputra8818 27 днів тому +2

      @@TempeSoldier123 BB did TB12 dirty, TB12 doesnt have to beg for sympathy. lol pauper bill

    • @keonfarley7083
      @keonfarley7083 27 днів тому

      Who he did dirty just asking ​@@TempeSoldier123

    • @WopJr
      @WopJr 27 днів тому

      @@andreasdwiputra8818how is wanting to move on from tomorrow doing him dirty?

  • @neetrab
    @neetrab 26 днів тому

    2:50 - Ocho said "the young coaches, like the Pete Carroll's " 😆😆😆

  • @alexanderb4165
    @alexanderb4165 26 днів тому +1

    Yes, the most unforgivable sin to Robert Kraft was the fact that Coach Belichick looked him in the eye and told him that Brady was done. Far from it. Goes off and wins a Super Bowl and should’ve been the MVP that second year. He could come back today and still ball. 🏈 💯🔥👊🏾

  • @aliali-ce3yf
    @aliali-ce3yf 27 днів тому +5

    Betrayal in Kraft's blood. 30 pieces of silver.....

  • @deesee2051
    @deesee2051 27 днів тому +9

    Dam Shannon be having trouble reading simple words is he alright?

    • @Brian-ek6no
      @Brian-ek6no 27 днів тому

      Just another brainwashed liberal

    • @matthewknott9571
      @matthewknott9571 27 днів тому +3

      He drunk

    • @liamdafoe
      @liamdafoe 27 днів тому +2

      cmon man 🤦🏾‍♂️ he’s from the south and got over a speech impediment. he just seems to be havin trouble because he wants to be clear in what he’s reading. he’s perfectly fine.

    • @deesee2051
      @deesee2051 27 днів тому

      @@liamdafoe you don’t know how his health is to be honest

    • @liamdafoe
      @liamdafoe 27 днів тому +1

      you’re 100% right. but from how much we see him work, exercise, outside like he in his 30’s, we can assume that he’s rather healthy than unhealthy right? as opposed to a 30 second clip of him reading with a few stutters?

  • @bodybytacos6043
    @bodybytacos6043 25 днів тому

    Good discussion

  • @danielvilla1661
    @danielvilla1661 26 днів тому

    What have you done for me lately was a similar conversation 85 and unc had about steffon digs a couple weeks ago. In that conversation roles were reversed

  • @PatriccSellapound372
    @PatriccSellapound372 27 днів тому +3

    It’s weird how people are saying “without Tom he’s nothing” the man won two superbowls as a DC. For example pop is a great coach but without Tim he didn’t do as well but what coach did well without a superstar?? It doesn’t happen because there’s to much talent in the league to think you’re still gonna win with a subpar roster

    • @AmirKhan-yv8jm
      @AmirKhan-yv8jm 27 днів тому +3

      Joe Gibbs won without a HOF qb but had HOF players like the O-line, Art Monk, Riggins, and Green!

    • @aaronjackson9385
      @aaronjackson9385 27 днів тому +2

      Nobody cares about coordinator rings. If they did, then why arent Buddy Ryan, Bud Carson, Norv Turner, Ray Rhodes, George Seifert, Monte Kiffin, Gary Kubiak, Richie Pettibon, Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Steve Spagnuolo, etc .in the Hall of Fame? Its a lame copout because he was a shitty head coach, so you have to revert to his coordinating career. Jim Schwartz and Dan Quinn won Superbowls as DC's. Has nothing to do with being a HC.

    • @PatriccSellapound372
      @PatriccSellapound372 26 днів тому

      @@aaronjackson9385 he’s had success outside of Tom Brady wether you like it or not it’s a FACT

    • @willisix2554
      @willisix2554 26 днів тому

      ​@PatriccSellapound372 What success does a head coach do they he have without tom brady?

    • @1chrischoice
      @1chrischoice 26 днів тому

      @@PatriccSellapound372lmao Bill has never had success as a head coach without Tom Brady…he’s made the post season about 30% of the time as a head coach without Brady, he’s trash and has always been trash.

  • @zuluwarrior963
    @zuluwarrior963 27 днів тому +4

    You right Ocho. The game has passed his old ass by…….

    • @joseromero81
      @joseromero81 27 днів тому +1

      What about Andy Reid? Same age.

    • @Brian-ek6no
      @Brian-ek6no 27 днів тому

      Not even close simp these kids r softer than season 4 from the wire

  • @christopherbrown9279
    @christopherbrown9279 26 днів тому +1

    Robert Kraft from the massage parlor talking about trust? 😂

  • @postmastersgt1670
    @postmastersgt1670 25 днів тому +1

    Kraft will never forgive BB for convincing him to push Brady out the door. He probably have poisoned the well with all the owners who are his buddies of ever hiring BB as a head coach.

  • @jbhillz87
    @jbhillz87 27 днів тому +10

    Falcons didn't need bill 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @theblinkerx
      @theblinkerx 27 днів тому +16

      The idea that a historically average team didn’t need or couldn’t have used the expertise of a 8 time championship coach is hilarious

    • @keonfarley7083
      @keonfarley7083 27 днів тому

      Says who

    • @AztecRay
      @AztecRay 27 днів тому

      How many Chips have the Falcons won?

    • @williewest2998
      @williewest2998 27 днів тому +2

      The falcons ain’t never done anything yeah they needed Bill

    • @work4whatyouwant477
      @work4whatyouwant477 27 днів тому

      People love mediocrity. Trash organizations don’t really want to win. I mean they signed Kirk Cousins to a long term deal

  • @rodneyevans8362
    @rodneyevans8362 26 днів тому +1

    If you don't have great players, coaching means nothing but loses. Tom and Bill proved that.

  • @edl5731
    @edl5731 3 дні тому

    I tend to think Kraft used the word “trust” but not the way most people are talking about it. Blank asked Kraft about BB just coaching and staying out of personal decisions, and Kraft said he wouldn’t trust BB to be able stay quit about decisions he disagreed with. Not suggesting BB was untrustworthy but has too much of an ego to stay quit.

  • @cantrellsmotorcycleexperie9724
    @cantrellsmotorcycleexperie9724 27 днів тому +1

    The problem is that Bill believed his own hype Later in his career in New England that he constantly got in his own way and hurt the team. But that is not a reflection on his whole career with the patriots. Yes, he screwed up at the end, especially with Brady and over estimating his abilities But that doesn't take away from his abilities As a coach.
    But I really do believe this is the best outcome from him to be humble by the situation and to continue his career somewhere away from my favorite team, which sucks😢

  • @lekevinsmith2479
    @lekevinsmith2479 26 днів тому

    1) The patriots way works anywhere if you have buy-in from the players. So you need some veterans on board. 2) We didn’t were pads on Fridays 10 years ago so that’s not a thing. 3) Scott Pioli is the GM in ATL and he was in New England from 2000-2008 if anyone spoke on Bill coming to ATL it was Scott and Scott’s a damn good GM. Would have loved to see them paired up again.

  • @tyleredwards970
    @tyleredwards970 26 днів тому

    I’m a die hard pats fan and Brady fan but those first few chips were coach bills. That defense was crazy. Ty law teddy b like cmonnnn

  • @araby2001able
    @araby2001able 26 днів тому +1

    The only thing I don’t like is he keeps bringing up my man girl all the time on different scenarios. I have a problem with that.

  • @reddy11-11
    @reddy11-11 26 днів тому +1

    Key word is “trust.” What was he referring too? is the critical question.

  • @josephswearington7556
    @josephswearington7556 26 днів тому +1

    BB’s ego was his downfall in NE. Kraft just gave Blank the heads up on BB’s character.

  • @ronaldslater4703
    @ronaldslater4703 27 днів тому +1

    Kraft's cronies have said that he didn't do that, but hey...🤔🤨

  • @robstaniforth7175
    @robstaniforth7175 26 днів тому

    Going with the younger coaches
    Harborough & Carroll

  • @eznoob2459
    @eznoob2459 26 днів тому

    You guys should go over the reports of Jayden Daniel’s agent not liking the commanders top 30 visit (they brought all the qb prospects to top golf for one last final meeting)

  • @willjohn4286
    @willjohn4286 26 днів тому +2

    I think Kraft still pissed he listed to Bill and let Brady go . Brady won that superbowl and bill been on kraft shit list ever since

  • @MKV11212
    @MKV11212 25 днів тому

    Sounds like Belichick was the one who recommended that massage parlor to Kraft 😂

  • @itsvictoroyedeji
    @itsvictoroyedeji 27 днів тому +1

    That's tough! Looks like Belicheck and Kraft need to have a heart-to-heart. Those 2 go back farther than Brady.

  • @BroVCam
    @BroVCam 24 дні тому

    I can't challenge or argue with anything you Gentlemen said! In fact I agree!!! But as an NFL fan (Go Eagles Go Saints and lo key Go Steelers😂) I've watched a lot of commentary on this issue and the one key very valid denominator I haven't heard anyone bring to light is; did Mr Blank ask or did Mr Kraft volunteer?!!! The answer to this defines everything! Firstly; I think I heard they are friends or at the least, very cordial with each other. Regardless how Kraft feels, you don't just go volunteer blocking a guy from an opportunity, unless ya got beef wit'uhm! Blank had to ask; then fair game, speak your mind! Thanks and keep up the awesome commentary! ✌🏾❤✊🏽

  • @kweli05
    @kweli05 24 дні тому

    Arthur Blank watched Belichick win 6 super bowls, including one helluva a comeback against him. Yet he listens to his friend on the coach. This should be business not personal.

  • @CapturedVisions110
    @CapturedVisions110 26 днів тому

    “I show am” 😆😆😆