And this year, 2016, exactly 50 years after _"Cathy Come Home"_ , Ken Loach has made another great socio-critical movie: _"I, Daniel Blake"_. I admire him.
This certainly gives a different view of the "Swinging London" of 1966. It wasn't all Carnaby Street, Mary Quant, Michael Caine, The Beatles and the dedicated followers of fashion. As always, Bravo Ken Loach.
Great film but just brutal. So depressing. And some people whine if they don't have the latest fucking iphone. Homelessness growing here too (Sydney). Brilliant filmmaker - a rare breed. A social conscience.
Большое спасибо, я смотрела этот фильм лет 40 назад и он никогда не отпускал меня. Я искала его, наконец нашла, пусть и на английском.Кен Лоуч гениален.
M’y Mum explained to me that when I was born in 1957 her and my dad had to get out of where they were living. It was London. So my grandparents in London gave them a bedroom at the top of their house that they were also renting. Just the one room. This was real life
We in the USA think that your UK lower classes always had it better than the poor in the USA. The homeless situation in the USA is very grave. Our health care system is not even a system.
Having just watched a doco on homelessness in the USA with people having to work 2 or more jobs, rent taking 80% of their wages or having to live in a tent or car -- Bloody atrocious, watching the rich getting richer the poor getting poorer! -- Big companies like GE moving a factory to Texas to pay lower wages and no healthcare plan whist declaring record profits to their shareholders -- Although I'm not a huge fan of Michael Moore, his Sicko documentary opened my eyes. How do CEOs of pharmaceutical companies and HMOs manage to sleep at night?
I live in Asia where families look out for each other..No old peoples or Children's homes only a private Family support system that is drummed into them as youngsters .In Britain and the U.S,once you leave home there is often no going back. SAD.
What's especially devastating is Cathy's character arc, a tragic paradox. As things get worse for Cathy, she becomes more mindful and articulate about her class/political situation: stops blaming herself and starts blaming the system. This is the real message of George Orwell: Working Class People understand society better than entitled people because poor people survive and sometimes flourish because they don't have the luxury of kidding themselves. Revolution is always a possibility. The capitalist system degrades everybody, even those who ostensibly profit from the exploitation. The horror of how these characters live is hard to watch but necessary. Carol White was a genius actor.
This caused a sensation at the time. Carol White was raved about, and it looked like great things were in her future. She appeared in a couple of Hollywood type films.
Who would have imagined that importing hundreds of thousands of immigrants would create a housing shortage, right? Don’t kid yourself, this is the fault of both Labour and the Conservatives.
No help for her at all within the system desperately wanted and loved her kids barbaric system that kept her down in the gutter poor kids wonder what happened to them they would have been more vulnerable and open to sexual physical abuse than being with their parents the system is designed to break you and take your children
14:08 "We can't stay at Mum's. There's no room. The council said it was overcrowded." Canadian here - what's a council? I'm just wondering what business it is for them to deny her the right to stay with her parents (lacking other accommodations), and also whether this is a power they still have.
Ken left a footnote at the end of the film. What was he really thinking? Maybe he was thinking this is what Britain gained from a World War. Poverty, homelessness and a broke country crawling to reconstruction.
I feel bad for these people, but I have watched this movie several times over the years and I still can't understand the choices they make. To have additional children when they can barely afford or make room for the one; to continue to live in London where the housing shortage was worst instead of moving elsewhere in the country.
You've watched it several times but seemed to have missed the bits where they showed it clearly wasn't a problem confined to London. They even listed how many people were on the waiting lists in each major metropolitan area. And did you not read the bit at the end which said that West Germany built twice as much housing since the end of ww2? It seems a bit harsh to be immediately critical of a few peoples life choices and overlook all these other things, especially given abortion was illegal, the pill had only just been introduced and people were a lot less educated about family planning than today.
@@defined12 now its 2020 and still its the same situation, we have family planning, abortion is legal, and there is no need for having more kids than you can afford. So in all the years since the 60's what have we learnt. People have to take responsibility for themselves, you cant rely on the government to house and clothe you . I feel sorry for the kids that are brought up in this environment thats all they ever learn is to follow by example and the cycle starts all over again. I was brought up not much better than this in a council house with a father that enjoyed his nighty couple of pints, cardboard in shoes etc chips with every meal if you want to break the cycle you can.
Ppl complaining about the characters. For starters they only had 3(?) Kids. She was raised to believe she was supposed to be a mother above all else. The issue was the treatment they received from the authorities. The caravan wasn't great but it was somewhere, their last hope, and all these things were taken away and not replaced and every time they asked for help ppl acted like they were asking for the world and they didn't deserve it.
Hi everyone. I'm a Brazilian translation study and I'm trying to translate the subtitles of this film. At the 1:35 to 2:12 moment Reg is talking to Cathy. What is he talking about? What does he mean with? - "She sticks her hand through this window and she gets hold of this little piece he's been doing it with".
I'm not a native speaker of English myself, but I think Reg is telling Cathy about an old horror or science-fiction movie that he had seen and that he found to be rather funny than "hair-raising". This movie that Reg talks about seems to be about a woman that somehow was exposed to radioactive dust and grew to a size of 40 foot (approximately 12 meters) as a result. And, like King-Kong, this giant woman had put her hand through a window and grabbed another, normal-sized, woman (the "piece") with whom her husband had cheated her. Something like that.
I'm sorry but when they couldn't find a home with two children so they qickly made a third one (31st minute) - I stopped caring. I mean, what is wrong with them? They are asking themselves: why are we going down? So why are they? Why is it that he couldn't find a better job, like he had in the beginning? I understand there was a housing crisis in 1960s Britain, OK, but was there unemployment crisis as well? And what about her, why didn't she look for at least a part-time job after the first child has grown a little but had two more babies instead? What, they didn't know about condoms back then? Jesus! What a couple of careless nutcases. What seems really insane though is renting discrimination for families with children, is it illegal nowadays?
Cathy with a part time job in a society that didn't offer day care for kids. Is that responsible parenting? The contraception pill was released in 1960 in the UK, but you would have to pay in advance for NHS services to be able to see your GP (you would also have to pay for the GP consultation) nad then pay for the pill. A work related accident send Cathy and Reg into a free fall due to lack of insurance, compensation or sick pay. Condoms? Expensive stuff and you couldn't go to your local supermarket to buy a condom for a fun night out. You would have to go into a clinic to be allowed to buy some - and be registered as well. Perhaps you and I should have lived at the time to fully appreciate what the conditions were like!
1:13:31 Warden: Don’t be a big lousy empty-headed fathead when your time does come. Don’t be just like Mrs. Growcott, let us taken your kids away for now without making a lot of big fuss over. Eh?
Cathy: Why does it make you say that? You’ve had no right to take my kids away from me, like this before? Warden: Because we can’t help you to find one of these every different houses in every places like that for them, can you? Now look, you’ve just had your lot of chances, we’re all not interested to be very keen on you like this before, anymore for now. It’s the children that we’re worried about, we can’t have them all be out there on the sleeping rough, but when the time does come for them to leave here, they’ll needed a lot of caring and protection by given a attention.
if they stopped breeding like a pack of rabbits and stopped smoking and drinking then they would not have to put up with these conditions, education is the answer here
Yes, apparently you have all the solutions to poverty and homelessness. No doubt easy to preach when you haven't lived any of it. Instead of spending time watching UA-cam and posting shite like this, go and volunteer at a soup kitchen or a food bank and talk to the folks who are there and learn their stories. That or just maybe just fuck off.
If you remember from the film, those were three wanted and loved children. The family was in slightly better circumstances at the time. They were not ‘ breeding like rabbits’ as you so graciously put it. The marriage was a good one, the parents loved each other and there was no abuse. It was the system that wore them both down. Bureaucrats following the rules. No kindness or understanding shown for their clients. This is what happens when the welfare state is in charge of people. This story reminded me of a Charles Dickens novel.
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And this year, 2016, exactly 50 years after _"Cathy Come Home"_ , Ken Loach has made another great socio-critical movie: _"I, Daniel Blake"_. I admire him.
This certainly gives a different view of the "Swinging London" of 1966. It wasn't all Carnaby Street, Mary Quant, Michael Caine, The Beatles and the dedicated followers of fashion. As always, Bravo Ken Loach.
@Brighton What was the Shelter Charity?
You also forgot Vietnam.I think most British Kids in the 1960's feared being drafted and sent to fight in Vietnam.
@@MichaelLantz Britain kept well out of the war in Vietnam
@@MichaelLantz never thought of Vietnam in the UK then
It's what Italians tried to do with neoralism.
Great film but just brutal. So depressing. And some people whine if they don't have the latest fucking iphone.
Homelessness growing here too (Sydney). Brilliant filmmaker - a rare breed. A social conscience.
Большое спасибо, я смотрела этот фильм лет 40 назад и он никогда не отпускал меня. Я искала его, наконец нашла, пусть и на английском.Кен Лоуч гениален.
M’y Mum explained to me that when I was born in 1957 her and my dad had to get out of where they were living. It was London. So my grandparents in London gave them a bedroom at the top of their house that they were also renting. Just the one room. This was real life
In all the years since then, Not much has changed!!
We in the USA think that your UK lower classes always had it better than the poor in the USA. The homeless situation in the USA is very grave. Our health care system is not even a system.
I live in Ireland but trust me the homeless here is a disgrace, it's getting worse because of the greedy landlords and people in power.
Having just watched a doco on homelessness in the USA with people having to work 2 or more jobs, rent taking 80% of their wages or having to live in a tent or car -- Bloody atrocious, watching the rich getting richer the poor getting poorer! -- Big companies like GE moving a factory to Texas to pay lower wages and no healthcare plan whist declaring record profits to their shareholders -- Although I'm not a huge fan of Michael Moore, his Sicko documentary opened my eyes. How do CEOs of pharmaceutical companies and HMOs manage to sleep at night?
That's a fact and will only get worse.
I live in Asia where families look out for each other..No old peoples or Children's homes only a private Family support system that is drummed into them as youngsters .In Britain and the U.S,once you leave home there is often no going back. SAD.
I watched this on TV back in 1985 and still find the ending upsetting.
What's especially devastating is Cathy's character arc, a tragic paradox. As things get worse for Cathy, she becomes more mindful and articulate about her class/political situation: stops blaming herself and starts blaming the system. This is the real message of George Orwell: Working Class People understand society better than entitled people because poor people survive and sometimes flourish because they don't have the luxury of kidding themselves.
Revolution is always a possibility. The capitalist system degrades everybody, even those who ostensibly profit from the exploitation.
The horror of how these characters live is hard to watch but necessary. Carol White was a genius actor.
*"The capitalist system degrades everybody, even those who ostensibly profit from the exploitation"* Ugghhh....go on then, compared to what?
RIP Carol White Great actress
ps Ray Davies (Kinks) wrote 'Dead end Street" after seeing this film...
i saw a ken loach movie last night entitled "Poor Cow" with Carol White and Terence Stamp - it was really a GREAT movie! But I love Ken Loach movies!
This was so well-known back in the day
- really made an impact.
Brilliant film and how tragic that it is still happening.
Happy 85th Mr. Loach!
Just watched this before bed. I'll be pensively staring at the ceiling for a little while before falling asleep.
Many thanks for posting. Pretty harsh stuff, but brilliantly filmed with all the individual personal views from ordinary people.
I watched this in 1966 and read the book. It's haunted me forever
This caused a sensation at the time. Carol White was raved about, and it looked like great things were in her future. She appeared in a couple of Hollywood type films.
First time I have seen this film and i love it. Carol White has a striking resemblance to Julie Christie.
2022,,seems like UK gone full circle. Those children be nearly in their 60s now, wonder where they are and what they think now.
Been looking for years for this cold stark depressing but so true 😤😤😤
I was born that year. 56 now. I remember some things
very harrowing but thanks so much for posting
great upload, thanks
good film.i was born in london,am english,dont qualify for a housing list which could take 10 years,because of tory sell off.
No, it is not because of the right to buy scheme. It is because of the open borders policy and the endless family reunions. That is why.
Who would have imagined that importing hundreds of thousands of immigrants would create a housing shortage, right? Don’t kid yourself, this is the fault of both Labour and the Conservatives.
Its a horrible system that does this to human beings just wanting to be in love and live together.
If they want to "be in love and live together" then they have to pay their way.
@@Iworkwithnitwits lead by example, won't you?
November 16th, 2019. What has changed ?
Hits a nerve, the England my parents took us away from.
Speechless
No help for her at all within the system desperately wanted and loved her kids barbaric system that kept her down in the gutter poor kids wonder what happened to them they would have been more vulnerable and open to sexual physical abuse than being with their parents the system is designed to break you and take your children
Distressing but very well made.
14:08 "We can't stay at Mum's. There's no room. The council said it was overcrowded."
Canadian here - what's a council? I'm just wondering what business it is for them to deny her the right to stay with her parents (lacking other accommodations), and also whether this is a power they still have.
she is living in a house thats government owned they tried to stop overcrowding as it was not healthy, you cant have a tiny flat with 10 people in it
This is fascinating.
To all greedy landlords, social workers "just doing their job - not" and politicians:
ua-cam.com/video/IGL4b25AJpM/v-deo.html
Does this film imply that they won't be allowed to reunite with their children again once they become more financially stable?
Many never get their children back the children get lost in the system .. often the mothers never find their husbands again .
Ken left a footnote at the end of the film. What was he really thinking? Maybe he was thinking this is what Britain gained from a World War. Poverty, homelessness and a broke country crawling to reconstruction.
the frightening fact is things would get far worse 10 years later, with the start of 43 plus years of continuous thatcherism
Was this movie watched in usa?
Thumbs up if you came here from Paul McCartney's Lyrics book...
so man man dipped how her ass thought they would communicate fede
Can anyone orientate me which boroughs are in he movie? The poor and that posh one they lived before they got the children? Thanks!
Ojalá tuviera subtítulos en español 🥺
1:10:23
Matron: That baby of yours
was in a big tip-top medical condition!
Nobody makes comedy live the British. Laughed from the beginning to the end.
I feel bad for these people, but I have watched this movie several times over the years and I still can't understand the choices they make. To have additional children when they can barely afford or make room for the one; to continue to live in London where the housing shortage was worst instead of moving elsewhere in the country.
You've watched it several times but seemed to have missed the bits where they showed it clearly wasn't a problem confined to London. They even listed how many people were on the waiting lists in each major metropolitan area. And did you not read the bit at the end which said that West Germany built twice as much housing since the end of ww2?
It seems a bit harsh to be immediately critical of a few peoples life choices and overlook all these other things, especially given abortion was illegal, the pill had only just been introduced and people were a lot less educated about family planning than today.
@@defined12 now its 2020 and still its the same situation, we have family planning, abortion is legal, and there is no need for having more kids than you can afford. So in all the years since the 60's what have we learnt. People have to take responsibility for themselves, you cant rely on the government to house and clothe you . I feel sorry for the kids that are brought up in this environment thats all they ever learn is to follow by example and the cycle starts all over again. I was brought up not much better than this in a council house with a father that enjoyed his nighty couple of pints, cardboard in shoes etc chips with every meal if you want to break the cycle you can.
Ppl complaining about the characters. For starters they only had 3(?) Kids. She was raised to believe she was supposed to be a mother above all else. The issue was the treatment they received from the authorities. The caravan wasn't great but it was somewhere, their last hope, and all these things were taken away and not replaced and every time they asked for help ppl acted like they were asking for the world and they didn't deserve it.
Eh, they threw away grandad. These people are not nice.
Hi everyone. I'm a Brazilian translation study and I'm trying to translate the subtitles of this film.
At the 1:35 to 2:12 moment Reg is talking to Cathy. What is he talking about? What does he mean with? -
"She sticks her hand through this window and she gets hold of this little piece he's been doing it with".
I'm not a native speaker of English myself, but I think Reg is telling Cathy about an old horror or science-fiction movie that he had seen and that he found to be rather funny than "hair-raising". This movie that Reg talks about seems to be about a woman that somehow was exposed to radioactive dust and grew to a size of 40 foot (approximately 12 meters) as a result. And, like King-Kong, this giant woman had put her hand through a window and grabbed another, normal-sized, woman (the "piece") with whom her husband had cheated her. Something like that.
And "to jitterbug away" seems to be just a slang expression for "to go away, to leave".
@@karlmall Thank you very much for your help. Now I can understand what they mean.
@@LuizSantos-sx1yv - Welcome.
I'm sorry but when they couldn't find a home with two children so they qickly made a third one (31st minute) - I stopped caring. I mean, what is wrong with them? They are asking themselves: why are we going down? So why are they? Why is it that he couldn't find a better job, like he had in the beginning? I understand there was a housing crisis in 1960s Britain, OK, but was there unemployment crisis as well? And what about her, why didn't she look for at least a part-time job after the first child has grown a little but had two more babies instead? What, they didn't know about condoms back then? Jesus! What a couple of careless nutcases. What seems really insane though is renting discrimination for families with children, is it illegal nowadays?
Cathy with a part time job in a society that didn't offer day care for kids. Is that responsible parenting?
The contraception pill was released in 1960 in the UK, but you would have to pay in advance for NHS services to be able to see your GP (you would also have to pay for the GP consultation) nad then pay for the pill.
A work related accident send Cathy and Reg into a free fall due to lack of insurance, compensation or sick pay.
Condoms? Expensive stuff and you couldn't go to your local supermarket to buy a condom for a fun night out. You would have to go into a clinic to be allowed to buy some - and be registered as well.
Perhaps you and I should have lived at the time to fully appreciate what the conditions were like!
An English film with English sub-titles ?
Nic Maennling this is for foreigns like me,I'm spanish mate.
My apologies my friend. I was to quick to judge. It is the first time I've seen that.
Nic Maennling No problem :-)
I'm an Irish native English speaker, but the fast-paced cockney made me miss a few words.
I am a Ukrainian Austrian and very interested in British cinematography :)
Why he disappeared??
1:12:51
Prisons for the poor.
50:20
Lennard Pearce!
Ģeoffrey Palmer!
1:13:31
Warden: Don’t be a big lousy empty-headed fathead when your time does come.
Don’t be just like Mrs. Growcott,
let us taken your kids away for now
without making a lot of big fuss over. Eh?
Cathy: Why does it make you say that? You’ve had no right to take my kids away from me, like this before?
Warden: Because we can’t help you to find one of these every different houses in every places like that for them, can you? Now look, you’ve just had your lot of chances, we’re all not interested to be very keen on you like this before, anymore for now. It’s the children that we’re worried about, we can’t have them all be out there on the sleeping rough, but when the time does come for them to leave here, they’ll needed a lot of caring and protection by given a attention.
I'm trying to translate to Portuguese.
if they stopped breeding like a pack of rabbits and stopped smoking and drinking then they would not have to put up with these conditions, education is the answer here
Yes, apparently you have all the solutions to poverty and homelessness. No doubt easy to preach when you haven't lived any of it. Instead of spending time watching UA-cam and posting shite like this, go and volunteer at a soup kitchen or a food bank and talk to the folks who are there and learn their stories. That or just maybe just fuck off.
If you remember from the film, those were three wanted and loved children. The family was in slightly better circumstances at the time.
They were not ‘ breeding like rabbits’ as you so graciously put it. The marriage was a good one, the parents loved each other and there was no abuse. It was the system that wore them both down. Bureaucrats following the rules. No kindness or understanding shown for their clients.
This is what happens when the welfare state is in charge of people. This story reminded me of a Charles Dickens novel.
@@harbourdogNL why I pay enough in taxes to keep people like this
@@leftieisbestie care factor is zilch
Contraception was just at its beginning at the time. Don't be too quick to judge if you don't know the context.
дельный фильм ,назидательный !