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if u boot up the old computer...I got some presets I made like17 years ago for ya...lol, easy to use and always sounded great! Massive X sounds great too, but not the same IMO.
In all honesty, you should consider compiling your jams from the other episodes into albums. Unless I missed something, I for one would join up to hear your music as a full album.
What I have learned most from this show is that music gear is just like people: a) every one is totally flawed, b) every one deserves to be embraced with love respect and an open mind, and c) when treated well, every one can shine in its own special way
So cool video mate. I was lucky to be in the sound design team for this amazing synth, Mike Dalliot (the guy behind of Massive) is so talented and cool guy, I am very glad his creation inspired so many electronic music makers. Thanks once again for the great video 🙌.
Massive had a massive impact on learning synths, modulation, modulating modulations, and after all modulating modulations with modulators in bitwig while turning knob on Maschine and having shaking eargasm booscomps. I think this post makes me to become patreon :P
Massive and Sytrus have been my go-to synth plug-ins for nearly two decades. If you really understand how to use them; there is some much capability there I can't see why I would need anything else.
@@kaustik185 Not really necessary for me. I bounce everything out to analog mixer with tube pres on the inserts. 8 mono instrument channels from Abelton get mixed down to 3 stereo "master" channels. Most (not quite all) of my FX processing happens externally by dedicated units. Everything starts, converts, and ends at 24/96. I don't really have any reason to "fake the funk" and over tax my PC; no problems with conversion aliasing or quantization. I have dabbled in some Foley work where I had to use 24/192 to get enough headroom, but it isn't part of my usually workflow. These types of minor distortions aren't even remotely perceptible on short non-rhythmic sounds.
@@j.sherwoodowl4826 -- Same. Massive still sounds great and does everything I want it to. Massive X ads a whole load of features that I don't care about and have never used.
@j.sherwoodowl4826 agree massive x was a let down but I hear it's good now so I need to revisit it. The ui just doesn't jive with me though but it makes some awesome sounds
Florian, I have to hand it to you - my studio is hardware-only, even the sequencing and recording duties are done on hardware (Akai MPC1000-> Synths -> Yamaha AW16G) - but somehow, you have the presentation skills to make me watch videos of softsynths which I'd never find myself using... I find these videos not only informative, but they are also damned good fun! Keep on doing what you are doing, buddy, and never change - you are obviously doing something right here.
Back when I was a teenager, I couldn't afford Massive or Absynth. But I had demo versions with a bunch of presets, though I couldn't save my own, and it would like... hiss at me violently every few seconds. So I would sample a single note into a very cheap sampler plug-in, using "Orion", one of the cheapest DAWs of the early 2000s. I got so much mileage out of this bootleg setup back then. I even faked some basic "sampler synth stuff" like automating the sampler's filter and basic envelopes, or layering presets samples of them to make my own "new patches", which I could save in the sampler plug-in because that wasn't a demo version m What a time that I never ever wanna go back to ever again!
This is so damn hilarious considering just how popular one-shot samples are right now. What you did with your bootleg setup is what I do with my actual hardware synths like my Moog One and JD-990 lol. I'll make my own one shots. It becomes even more hilarious when I tell you that I throw these one-shots right back into Serum, using it as a sampler, just to Alt. Pan their voices to get a wide sound, and sometimes I even modulate the pitch using Chaos to add wow and flutter.
Massive is my favorite soft synth, I use it all the time along with my eurorack and I always figure out something new that it can do with it. Great vid!
This plugin not only was the thing I used when I didn't know what I was doing, it's ALSO the plugin that stumped me when I DID know what I was doing, every time Au5 made some new awesome sound I was convinced couldn't possibly be Massive, but was. Damn you frequency shifter! ;D
I have been onboard the NI train since Komplete Select 7 and after many of their last Kontakt add ons, I have no incentives to update to any new bundles whenever the Black Friday and special deals are released. This video is better than most instructional and demo videos released by the developer and independently and it is very likely that is the basic problem of EVERY DEVELOPER! Kudos to you for smoothly exposing the real gorillas and elephants in the rooms! 🎉😂🤯☀️🤔🎯💯😳🥶😬
3:30 made me nod and smile. It isn't often (any more) that someone whose interest is to attract a diverse audience (synth brands, plugin companies, youtubers) dares to make such an honest remark. Even if just half-joking about something that's not a joke.
Great episode! But I think the Massive X is the real Bad Gear material because it was highly controversial when it came out due to the lack of some features.
It's a terrible vst massive x I've got both and massive sounds nicer I think and it doesn't try and blue screen your computer all time like massive X can do
that second jam was so raw...reminds me of the Matrix movie 😎😁...i like how you talk about how your interest in electronic music started...what if you had an episode where you actually take three of your earliest tracks with old software/PC and then transform them into a modern version 🤗
@@phelper4554 you can put effects like reverb or env stuff on each key individually, so all three notes of a chord will play with diff env settings and reverb settings which can lead to some extremely organic type sounds
I picked up a copy on a good discount about 2-3 years ago. While definitely 'way behind the curve' I think it's still a DOPE AF plugin and still holds its own today.
Same. I hope it doesn’t ’stop working properly’ as he says it might. I also bought a big pack of presets for it very cheaply which is very cool for people like me who aren’t very good at making sounds.
Another great upload, and right on schedule. Keep doing your thing, brotha, whatever that might be. Even if you decide to go in a different direction from bad gear, I'll forever want to know what your up to. So keep us posted!
Noticed that your overused M-Audio KeyStudio 25 white keys are now brown. If you need a brand new used one with white keys, they are only about $50 everywhere, but then you lose that nostalgic look of your favorite keyboard controller.
Honestly using massive is such a treat. The modulation options are so vast but also quite intuitive. Not that it's ever gonna happen but an updated sound engine, expanded wavetable options and a bigger filter selection is all it needs these days.
Mr. Florian, thank You very much for another cool episode)) I guess “Maschine + “ is the ideal “victim” (we already had seen an MPC One episode). Now it’s Maschine’s turn😄
Seconding this! Was going to say I was wondering when a piece of NI hardware would get the Bad Gear treatment, and from what the internet tells me, the Maschine+ is begging for it. 😅
I've not tried Massive X either, but apparently it's very underrated. It's got a bad reputation because it was a mess at launch, but supposedly they've updated it since and it's a lot better now
Massive X has been my favourite softsynths since it's release. The biggest issue with Massive X was the UI, which was simply unfinished at its release. The UI has become acceptable after a couple of updates, but it remains underdeveloped compared to other modern softsynths. The quality of the sound engine however is unmatched imho, and that's what matters the most in the end. No other softsynth I've tried can beat it, though Pigments is getting closer with recent updates (and beats it by miles with new features every iteration). It's a pity NI has apparently completely lost the plot, and has left Massive X dangling with only meagre updates and useless preset packs being released since its debut. The sound engine of Massive X is simply ahead of its time, and has so much potential, but NI forgot it also needs a modern UI to go with it, and the competition isn't standing still....
Massive X has the best sounding sound engine I've ever heard among all of top VSTi synths. The quality of the oscillators, filters, effects and the whole voice structure is absolutely outstanding. It delivers high definition sound in the highest possible quality. It beautifully sits in the overall mix with other instruments regardless of the sound type - whether it's a bass, synth, lead or pads, MX can do all of this. You can spend hours and hours with knob tweaking getting awesome and never ending timbre variations producing very fresh, juicy, modern and innovative sounds. MX covers everything - it can sound very analogish, smooth, dirty, hard, digital it only depends on your sound programming skills what kind of sound you are able to dial on it. Although there are other top notch VSTi synths which also sound very good and tasty, MX is still a level higher than anything else if we consider the engine sound quality and the timbre variability it can produce.
Next month patreon shout out should be with Reason's vocoder. Now that you're diving into vintage Softsynths more, I think it's time to do a full show just on that classic semi-modular/studio in a box trailblazer for whom backwards compatibility is even better than Windows. 💯
In 2007, I got signed to a pretty good indie label with a demo on which every synth track was either Massive or Absynth running in the Mackie Tracktion DAW on my parents' Pentium 4 tower. I couldn't afford a laptop or a decent hardware synth, so I had some trouble performing the synth parts live.
Absynth was one of my favorite plugins. Normally into hardware but absynth was great cant believe they dropped it without open sourcing it or something. The og creators new synth is interesting a definitely has the same dna as absynth which is cool but its just not absynth.
Wow… jam two gave me chills, goosebumps and made my nips rock hard bro. Nice. Also helps that I’ve been playing a lot of cadence of hyrule with the rival_a soundtrack… really felt like it could fit in that game.
I like and still use massive occasionally because at least its filters are hard to come by and the interface is pretty robust, its clear to see why it was the king before serum - That said the synth is 100% past its prime and doesnt have anything special going for it aside from the step and performer LFOs :( Massive X is interesting though. Dont buy into the stupid marketing though - its NOT a modular synth its basically another serum / vital but it does have some killer mutators (hydrasynth reference cough cough) and some of the best built in effects I have ever heard in my life. If you have komplete you should consider reviewing other relics like absynth and reakt blocks/monark. I love these softsynth reviews because remember kids massive and serum have had just as a big effect on music as the juno. Just because they're written with code doesnt mean they have any less history to preserve! Steve duda and native instruments is our generations bob moog btw another interesting thing you can look into for software is bitwig's poly grid! It has a cult like following and its such a unique take on modular synthesis with DAW integration
Great episode as usual, bought Massive last year for the sale price of £40 and FM8 at the same time for £8 two great synths for bargain prices, their normal price is £129. NI has updated both to be Mac silicone compatible so they should be supported for some time yet.
Agree, this is still one of my fave synths. While Massive X can do more, its is such a behemoth and the relative simplicity of original Massive makes it that much more usable. And like anything powered by Reaktor, it sounds huge.
It drives me crazy that no one ever noticed Super 8, that is a super good sounding synth with a wonderful clean interface. If only there was a hardware version of that.
massive is my favourite soft synth, been using it ever since i started making music. sure, serum is fantastic but something about massive makes me always want to explore without getting too carried away. i also love that its not too cpu intensive. it'll be a shame in another 10 years time when vsts like massive won't be compatable
Soma Lyra-8, obviously the best carrier signal in the world, "Candyshaver" hehe. This time's suggestion is YAMAHA DS55, a still stylish (almost) Preset version of TX81z, with (what's new to me) auto acomp, (unlike the V50): zero drum samples but FM's instead & at least one pattern programmed by German/international musiclegend/genius Reinhold Heil, who already was blessed (helping) to program sounds for the rare '82-FM test balloon GS2 (heard in a recent interview) P. S.: Since my GS2 neither has NENA's "Ganz Oben" breathy bell-patch nor the one from Cosa Rosa's "Traumstation", I assume Reinhold having kept the very best sounds solely to himself.🥳😂🤣
Interesting. Tempted especially as the second jam sounds like an artist I love. But a rabbit hole I’m not going to explore. I’ll stick with my budget hardware synths. Got my Woove box this week and my JT-4000 (along with a nice Ibanez acoustic bass) are on the way. Plus I have to get up to speed with my pro Vs mini too. So more than enough to keep me occupied 😀
Yes it’s an electro acoustic. But nowadays it’s easy to add the electrics so long as you don’t mind cutting holes in things. I modded my Spanish guitar with a kit that cost me €8 including the electrics and postage. It’s now a feature on many of my tracks.
Native at the top of the virtual synths chain , sounds pretty good when rerouting towards preamps, Since you ask about ideas for reviews, I 'd love one with yamaha sk50d , many thanks for what you do, its treasure of content you offer, the way you do it, its Massive !
I know you have people recommending gear for the show all the time, but I just got hold of an old E-Mu MP7 “Command Station” synth and it would be so PERFECT for Bad Gear.
I never really loved Massive, but I did understand its power and popularity. And I'd be lying if I said I didn't use it on a few of my released productions, too. I remember spending a good few days programming a disco stab sound in Massive.
For the computers of its day, it was great. Dialing computing back two decades and Massive was hitting it just right on sound quality, features, and GUI design.
I like your Flor-step jam. I was too old to casually like Dubstep when it came out and now that it has aged poorly I still casually like it. Wubs wrong with me?
I got Massive as a freebie courtesy of Focusrite. I think it was linked to my purchase of a Novation Bass Station II. So for me it is two great synths for the price of one. 😁
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if u boot up the old computer...I got some presets I made like17 years ago for ya...lol, easy to use and always sounded great! Massive X sounds great too, but not the same IMO.
In all honesty, you should consider compiling your jams from the other episodes into albums. Unless I missed something, I for one would join up to hear your music as a full album.
What I have learned most from this show is that music gear is just like people: a) every one is totally flawed, b) every one deserves to be embraced with love respect and an open mind, and c) when treated well, every one can shine in its own special way
That’s a great way of seeing this!!! Thank you so much!!!
also, midi.
Rewrite c) when treated well by Florian every synth can shine in its own way
“I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!”
Spot on, man. Spot on.
So cool video mate. I was lucky to be in the sound design team for this amazing synth, Mike Dalliot (the guy behind of Massive) is so talented and cool guy, I am very glad his creation inspired so many electronic music makers. Thanks once again for the great video 🙌.
Thank you so much!!!
👏👏👏👏
Despite years of messing around with Massive, I never got it to sound this good. Impressive !
Thank you so much!!!
Your jams are always so good. You're an excellent youtuber but in my opinion an even better musician
Thank you so much!!!
Some people love the dank memes, I love the dank jams. :)
Disasterpeace composed the whole soundtrack of Hyper Light Drifter with Massive, which is my favorite of all time. One of the GOAT synths.
Nice!!!
Nice, I will check it out. Who else have examples for nice Massive or Massive X productions?
REAL
check out soisong if you haven't already for some reason. ian pavlov uses massive a lot under the COH moniker (pronounced sun)
@@wirrwarr808he did the same for the it follows score
Massive had a massive impact on learning synths, modulation, modulating modulations, and after all modulating modulations with modulators in bitwig while turning knob on Maschine and having shaking eargasm booscomps. I think this post makes me to become patreon :P
Makes sense;)
My go-to vst-synth since I’ve got it free from NI. Love it
Nice!!!
Massive and Sytrus have been my go-to synth plug-ins for nearly two decades. If you really understand how to use them; there is some much capability there I can't see why I would need anything else.
@@AaronAlso aliasing/oversampling capablities.
you might like that tho, especially going into non linear effects
@@kaustik185
Not really necessary for me. I bounce everything out to analog mixer with tube pres on the inserts. 8 mono instrument channels from Abelton get mixed down to 3 stereo "master" channels. Most (not quite all) of my FX processing happens externally by dedicated units. Everything starts, converts, and ends at 24/96. I don't really have any reason to "fake the funk" and over tax my PC; no problems with conversion aliasing or quantization.
I have dabbled in some Foley work where I had to use 24/192 to get enough headroom, but it isn't part of my usually workflow. These types of minor distortions aren't even remotely perceptible on short non-rhythmic sounds.
Dated looks aside, the UI and feature set still hit a sweet spot between depth and ease of use.
True that!
New stuff is also dated, people just don't know it yet.
100% agree. I bought Massive X when it came out and never used it because I was happy with Massive.
@@j.sherwoodowl4826 -- Same. Massive still sounds great and does everything I want it to. Massive X ads a whole load of features that I don't care about and have never used.
@j.sherwoodowl4826 agree massive x was a let down but I hear it's good now so I need to revisit it. The ui just doesn't jive with me though but it makes some awesome sounds
That OG Dubstep jam was absolutely nasty. Great stuff
Thank you!!!
can 't believe you can churn these out on a weekly basis! hats off!!
Thank you so much!!!
Got me almost fall off my chair... the MS paint window... still laughing...
😀😀😀
Florian, I have to hand it to you - my studio is hardware-only, even the sequencing and recording duties are done on hardware (Akai MPC1000-> Synths -> Yamaha AW16G) - but somehow, you have the presentation skills to make me watch videos of softsynths which I'd never find myself using... I find these videos not only informative, but they are also damned good fun!
Keep on doing what you are doing, buddy, and never change - you are obviously doing something right here.
Thank you so much!!!
Al Gore Rhythms! The visual puns have escalated to God level...
😂😂😂
Took a screenshot that will go viral!
Thanks!
Hey Matt, thank you so much for the support!!!
Back when I was a teenager, I couldn't afford Massive or Absynth. But I had demo versions with a bunch of presets, though I couldn't save my own, and it would like... hiss at me violently every few seconds.
So I would sample a single note into a very cheap sampler plug-in, using "Orion", one of the cheapest DAWs of the early 2000s. I got so much mileage out of this bootleg setup back then. I even faked some basic "sampler synth stuff" like automating the sampler's filter and basic envelopes, or layering presets samples of them to make my own "new patches", which I could save in the sampler plug-in because that wasn't a demo version m What a time that I never ever wanna go back to ever again!
Great technique!!!
"what a great time i never ever wanna go back to ever again!" is the greatest way to describe using old gear and techniques W comment
Oh god I remember Orion. Now I feel even older. 😅
This is so damn hilarious considering just how popular one-shot samples are right now.
What you did with your bootleg setup is what I do with my actual hardware synths like my Moog One and JD-990 lol. I'll make my own one shots.
It becomes even more hilarious when I tell you that I throw these one-shots right back into Serum, using it as a sampler, just to Alt. Pan their voices to get a wide sound, and sometimes I even modulate the pitch using Chaos to add wow and flutter.
Why didn't you do what everyone else does and use the pirated copy?
Massive is my favorite soft synth, I use it all the time along with my eurorack and I always figure out something new that it can do with it. Great vid!
Thanks!!! Nice!!!
This plugin not only was the thing I used when I didn't know what I was doing, it's ALSO the plugin that stumped me when I DID know what I was doing, every time Au5 made some new awesome sound I was convinced couldn't possibly be Massive, but was. Damn you frequency shifter! ;D
Frequency Shifter is GOAT!!!
I have been onboard the NI train since Komplete Select 7 and after many of their last Kontakt add ons, I have no incentives to update to any new bundles whenever the Black Friday and special deals are released.
This video is better than most instructional and demo videos released by the developer and independently and it is very likely that is the basic problem of EVERY DEVELOPER!
Kudos to you for smoothly exposing the real gorillas and elephants in the rooms! 🎉😂🤯☀️🤔🎯💯😳🥶😬
Thank you!!!
Komplete is a a joke now. What I'm waiting for is maschine 3.0 it seems like they aren't showing much maschine love these days
First time I've ever had to turn off an episode of Bad Gear was to go rewatch that video of Skrillex hitting his head, dying
Ah, the schadenfreude;)
Can’t lie…I paused and replayed that 10 or so times before I watched the rest of the episode lol😂
3:30 made me nod and smile. It isn't often (any more) that someone whose interest is to attract a diverse audience (synth brands, plugin companies, youtubers) dares to make such an honest remark. Even if just half-joking about something that's not a joke.
Thank you so much!!!
Great episode! But I think the Massive X is the real Bad Gear material because it was highly controversial when it came out due to the lack of some features.
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
It's a terrible vst massive x I've got both and massive sounds nicer I think and it doesn't try and blue screen your computer all time like massive X can do
@@djdarksidejungle559massive x has never bsod my pc
Damn! Almost missed it!! Great video as always! For what I gathered, massive was used by disasterpeace to create FEZ's OST.
Thanks!!!
that second jam was so raw...reminds me of the Matrix movie 😎😁...i like how you talk about how your interest in electronic music started...what if you had an episode where you actually take three of your earliest tracks with old software/PC and then transform them into a modern version 🤗
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
BROOOO AUDIPILZ MADE THE BEST CRUELTY SQUAD MONTAGE OF ALL TIME
Thank you so much!!!
still my fav synth, random per note stuff in chords is crazy powerful
True that!
Could you explain it a bit more?
@@phelper4554 you can put effects like reverb or env stuff on each key individually, so all three notes of a chord will play with diff env settings and reverb settings which can lead to some extremely organic type sounds
"they can be used for real music too" got me 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
I picked up a copy on a good discount about 2-3 years ago.
While definitely 'way behind the curve' I think it's still a DOPE AF plugin and still holds its own today.
Same. I hope it doesn’t ’stop working properly’ as he says it might. I also bought a big pack of presets for it very cheaply which is very cool for people like me who aren’t very good at making sounds.
Nice!!!
Another great upload, and right on schedule. Keep doing your thing, brotha, whatever that might be. Even if you decide to go in a different direction from bad gear, I'll forever want to know what your up to. So keep us posted!
Thank you so much!!!
Noticed that your overused M-Audio KeyStudio 25 white keys are now brown. If you need a brand new used one with white keys, they are only about $50 everywhere, but then you lose that nostalgic look of your favorite keyboard controller.
I've to admit that I like the nicotine look;)
It's resin...
@@AudioPilz Or spilled espresso.
Honestly using massive is such a treat. The modulation options are so vast but also quite intuitive.
Not that it's ever gonna happen but an updated sound engine, expanded wavetable options and a bigger filter selection is all it needs these days.
@AudioPilz, The last jam on the Verdict sounded like it was "Anti"-psytrance with those wavetable magicianship.
Thank you so much!!! I take this as a compliment;)
Mr. Florian, thank You very much for another cool episode)) I guess “Maschine + “ is the ideal “victim” (we already had seen an MPC One episode). Now it’s Maschine’s turn😄
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
Seconding this! Was going to say I was wondering when a piece of NI hardware would get the Bad Gear treatment, and from what the internet tells me, the Maschine+ is begging for it. 😅
I've not tried Massive X either, but apparently it's very underrated. It's got a bad reputation because it was a mess at launch, but supposedly they've updated it since and it's a lot better now
Interesting, definitely gonna give it a try!!!
I get stuck notes with it all the time.
Massive X has been my favourite softsynths since it's release. The biggest issue with Massive X was the UI, which was simply unfinished at its release. The UI has become acceptable after a couple of updates, but it remains underdeveloped compared to other modern softsynths.
The quality of the sound engine however is unmatched imho, and that's what matters the most in the end. No other softsynth I've tried can beat it, though Pigments is getting closer with recent updates (and beats it by miles with new features every iteration).
It's a pity NI has apparently completely lost the plot, and has left Massive X dangling with only meagre updates and useless preset packs being released since its debut. The sound engine of Massive X is simply ahead of its time, and has so much potential, but NI forgot it also needs a modern UI to go with it, and the competition isn't standing still....
I love it, I disconnect things, reroute them, and grin, shake my head, or both. 5 oscillators... 🤯
Massive X has the best sounding sound engine I've ever heard among all of top VSTi synths. The quality of the oscillators, filters, effects and the whole voice structure is absolutely outstanding. It delivers high definition sound in the highest possible quality. It beautifully sits in the overall mix with other instruments regardless of the sound type - whether it's a bass, synth, lead or pads, MX can do all of this. You can spend hours and hours with knob tweaking getting awesome and never ending timbre variations producing very fresh, juicy, modern and innovative sounds. MX covers everything - it can sound very analogish, smooth, dirty, hard, digital it only depends on your sound programming skills what kind of sound you are able to dial on it. Although there are other top notch VSTi synths which also sound very good and tasty, MX is still a level higher than anything else if we consider the engine sound quality and the timbre variability it can produce.
"Ring modulation". It took me a second but i LOL'd 😂
;)
And then your phone rings. 😱
Next month patreon shout out should be with Reason's vocoder. Now that you're diving into vintage Softsynths more, I think it's time to do a full show just on that classic semi-modular/studio in a box trailblazer for whom backwards compatibility is even better than Windows. 💯
Great idea, thanks!!!
I'm all in for the Apple G5 Bad Gear episode.
Actually never had one of these, switched from a G3 to PC
Because you have common sense@@AudioPilz
@@AudioPilz The G3 will be fine. :)
Your videos are always right there with the best I see on UA-cam. Legendary stuff mate. Thank you!
Thank you so much!!!
7:07 This is legit going to give people nightmares of getting a call from their Sweetwater rep telling them they suck.
Yeah, nightmare material!!!
I lost it going back to read that meme
🤣🤣🤣
If you regularly talk to a rep at Sweetwater, you may have G.A.S.
In 2007, I got signed to a pretty good indie label with a demo on which every synth track was either Massive or Absynth running in the Mackie Tracktion DAW on my parents' Pentium 4 tower. I couldn't afford a laptop or a decent hardware synth, so I had some trouble performing the synth parts live.
Absynth was one of my favorite plugins. Normally into hardware but absynth was great cant believe they dropped it without open sourcing it or something. The og creators new synth is interesting a definitely has the same dna as absynth which is cool but its just not absynth.
They said they just cant give it the attention it needs. Im sure others would.
Yeah, my heart was bleeding too
Wow! Your in depth
analysis is just mind blowing!🤯Brilliant as always 😎
Thank you so much!!!
Native Instruments: The IKEA of softsynths.
don't have it...
Nice analogy!!!
7:26 seeing cruelty squad in a bad gear episode is so random but so cool at the same time.
Funny timing, given today's news of (quoting a headline) "Dirk Ulrich has left Native Instruments, the 'sinking ship'"
Yeah, just read the news. Weird stuff!!!
NOT SURE IF I'M UPSET OR PLEASED THIS CAME OUT!!! I AM CONFLICTED BUT I CANT WAIT TO WATCH THIS!!!
😀😀😀
@@AudioPilzthis one was hard to stomach but as usual... you're absolutely fair and based. Thank you!
omg ghost in the shell intro
BEST!!!
Togusa sneakily being on Massive was excellent
the Maschine plus re-invented my love for massive. It really has its own sound next to serum vital and phaseplant.
Nice!!!
"I use Massive, but for most of my signature monster sounds/monster basses I'm using FM8 actually.". Skrillex, interview with Beat Magazine, 2011.
Wow, didn't know. Thanks for posting!!!
Wow… jam two gave me chills, goosebumps and made my nips rock hard bro. Nice. Also helps that I’ve been playing a lot of cadence of hyrule with the rival_a soundtrack… really felt like it could fit in that game.
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I like and still use massive occasionally because at least its filters are hard to come by and the interface is pretty robust, its clear to see why it was the king before serum - That said the synth is 100% past its prime and doesnt have anything special going for it aside from the step and performer LFOs :(
Massive X is interesting though. Dont buy into the stupid marketing though - its NOT a modular synth its basically another serum / vital but it does have some killer mutators (hydrasynth reference cough cough) and some of the best built in effects I have ever heard in my life. If you have komplete you should consider reviewing other relics like absynth and reakt blocks/monark. I love these softsynth reviews because remember kids massive and serum have had just as a big effect on music as the juno. Just because they're written with code doesnt mean they have any less history to preserve! Steve duda and native instruments is our generations bob moog
btw another interesting thing you can look into for software is bitwig's poly grid! It has a cult like following and its such a unique take on modular synthesis with DAW integration
Great insights, thanks!!!
Great episode as usual, bought Massive last year for the sale price of £40 and FM8 at the same time for £8 two great synths for bargain prices, their normal price is £129.
NI has updated both to be Mac silicone compatible so they should be supported for some time yet.
Great find!!!
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Excellent video all around involving one of the best VA plugins.
Thank you so much!!!
Better than serum
Yay new episode! Happy weekend!
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NI was making great synths, now they are selling samples…
That’s mot the only thing currently going on over there
Loved that dubstep tune. All the music in this episode is excellent.!
Thank you so much!!!
This VST is personally responsible for the decline of Drum and Bass in the USA. Thanks Skrillex and the Bro-Steppers, I'll never forgive you.
I think Serum would like to have a word here too;)
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i mean drum and bass is coming back in a major way, coexisting with the current state of modern dubstep
The fact nobody ever said "we could make performer preset packs" then did it always blew my mind cause theres a whole dedicated folder for them.
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I was not expecting a cruelty squad cameo
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cruelty squad really is the perfect pairing for the sound of this vst.
Thank you!!! Agreed!!!
loved that music video, love that game
haha i thought it was Cruelty Squad at first but then was like "naw this seems too abstract". wonder if it will run on my 13ish year old laptop?
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the game really isn’t a ressource hog however its not exactly optimised either, it’s definitely worth a play
Cutting up massive this is even better, this is Epic lol
Thank you!!!
The Lyra-8 vocoding sounded fantastic, so deep and harmonically rich.
...damn, maybe I SHOULD buy one, after all.
Aw, man...
Sorry for that;)
Agree, this is still one of my fave synths. While Massive X can do more, its is such a behemoth and the relative simplicity of original Massive makes it that much more usable. And like anything powered by Reaktor, it sounds huge.
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It drives me crazy that no one ever noticed Super 8, that is a super good sounding synth with a wonderful clean interface. If only there was a hardware version of that.
I really have to give that one a try!
Massive X? For sure. OG Massive? Not a chance. GOAT synth. The literal Minimoog of Wavetables.
Nice analogy!!!
massive is my favourite soft synth, been using it ever since i started making music. sure, serum is fantastic but something about massive makes me always want to explore without getting too carried away. i also love that its not too cpu intensive. it'll be a shame in another 10 years time when vsts like massive won't be compatable
We need a plan b for that!!!
Soma Lyra-8, obviously the best carrier signal in the world, "Candyshaver" hehe. This time's suggestion is YAMAHA DS55, a still stylish (almost) Preset version of TX81z, with (what's new to me) auto acomp, (unlike the V50): zero drum samples but FM's instead & at least one pattern programmed by German/international musiclegend/genius Reinhold Heil, who already was blessed (helping) to program sounds for the rare '82-FM test balloon GS2 (heard in a recent interview)
P. S.: Since my GS2 neither has NENA's "Ganz Oben" breathy bell-patch nor the one from Cosa Rosa's "Traumstation", I assume Reinhold having kept the very best sounds solely to himself.🥳😂🤣
Thank you!!! Great input!!!
Would love to see more outdated software like Synth1 and TAL Noisemaker in the future.
Novation V-station, zeta, Vanguard
Interesting. Tempted especially as the second jam sounds like an artist I love. But a rabbit hole I’m not going to explore. I’ll stick with my budget hardware synths. Got my Woove box this week and my JT-4000 (along with a nice Ibanez acoustic bass) are on the way. Plus I have to get up to speed with my pro Vs mini too. So more than enough to keep me occupied 😀
Nice ones!!! Maybe give Vital a go!!!
If it's an electric acoustic, you can put it through an auto-wah FX box. If not, you can buy a contact pick-up, adheres to the body.
Yes it’s an electro acoustic. But nowadays it’s easy to add the electrics so long as you don’t mind cutting holes in things. I modded my Spanish guitar with a kit that cost me €8 including the electrics and postage. It’s now a feature on many of my tracks.
honestly, the amount of memes you are in on and just use fluently baffles me every single friday
Image search exists.
Thank you!!!
it scares me knowing that AudioPilz is a cruelty squad fan...nonetheless, great video as always! 🗣
I agree with you. I had this for years before I knew anything about synths.
Not the worst starting point!!!
Native at the top of the virtual synths chain , sounds pretty good when rerouting towards preamps, Since you ask about ideas for reviews, I 'd love one with yamaha sk50d , many thanks for what you do, its treasure of content you offer, the way you do it, its Massive !
My man's playing a dangerous game here lmao. Crazy that this synth is still on hits being made today. Back when NI was all quality all the time!
Simpler times!!!
Well done, as usual
Thank you!!!
Nice ! Never liked Massive much but Absynth and FM8 are my go too plugins for the last 15 years. You made me want to give it another go.
Definitely worth a shot
It's called massive because you experience a massive disappointment when opening it. 😅
Lol, shots fired;)
I know you have people recommending gear for the show all the time, but I just got hold of an old E-Mu MP7 “Command Station” synth and it would be so PERFECT for Bad Gear.
I second this again
I'd LOVE to get hold of one of these!!!
@AudioPilz it's your destiny to command one of these less than portable groove boxes
honestly one of the plugins i love using the most lol. this plugin is literally older than me as well lmaoooo
Nice!!!
Very nice! Still waiting on that discontinued Virus :D
I really want this one!!!
I hear what you did with this soft synth and now I want to hear you make music with it. Like, real tracks on Spotify or wherever.
Thanks!!! Shameless plug: full tracks and extended jams can be found on Patreon
Today's genre jam was a blazing glorious masterpiece, and not just because I'm finally listening thru some headphones with decent bass response. 😀
Thank you so much!!!
ghost in the shell! OG 🙏🙏👍👍
Classic!!!
I never really loved Massive, but I did understand its power and popularity. And I'd be lying if I said I didn't use it on a few of my released productions, too. I remember spending a good few days programming a disco stab sound in Massive.
Most massive disco stabs of all time
5:33 This EQ shows that Florian is a sound engineer by trade first!
Guilty as charged...
By the way … your intro hook sounds good. Should keep it for your next videos dude
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I really enjoyed that first jam! Excellent!
Thank you so much!!!
Starting out with Ghost in the Shell? Niiiiiice.
Classic!!!
You had me at fuster cluck!
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That phrase, isn't that technically an orgy?
For the computers of its day, it was great. Dialing computing back two decades and Massive was hitting it just right on sound quality, features, and GUI design.
Decades ago: Remember zip drives? Tech moved on.
...and CPU consumption;)
Was the Z3ta+ any good? I like the sound of it, but with my knowledge of synthesizers I can't really say anything
I have to check that one out!!!
I like your Flor-step jam. I was too old to casually like Dubstep when it came out and now that it has aged poorly I still casually like it. Wubs wrong with me?
Thanks!!! I really liked the pre-Brostep stuff
Simply brilliant-as usual ❤
Thank you!!!
Loooved that 1st jam! 🤘🤘🤘
Thank you!!!
❤❤❤❤❤ thank you! I’ve been a NI fanboy since 2006 when I bought Xpress Keys.
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The first synth I ever learned I still use it for basslines, I was in love with the fact that skrillex was using it for his tracks ❤
A modern classic!!!
I got Massive as a freebie courtesy of Focusrite. I think it was linked to my purchase of a Novation Bass Station II. So for me it is two great synths for the price of one. 😁
Nice deal!!!
The mum asking “have you been experimenting with ambient” 😅
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Very good show.
When will you play synth on a Smart Phone ?
Great idea, thanks!!!