I always liked how vicious slid the gun to spike first in their final battle. He was an evil bastard, but he had some real respect for his enemy there.
@@Blackwolfninja89 Im already aware but you cant deny this is stupid. Bushido is different when exchangimg melee weapons but a gun for a melee weapon? Thats stupid
@Michael Green what are you on about? Code switching is just a colloquial term used by racists who want to normalise ignorantly and disrespectfully slipping into dialects that don't belong to their own ethnic group. There is no code switching between these two characters.
@Michael Green I think what's happened here is I've called you out and now you're at a bit of a loss. If you think code switching doesn't have anything to do with ethnicity in common parlance I would suggest picking up a dictionary or perhaps revisting what you think it means, especially in the context you're trying to use it in.
@Michael Green could you explain which two languages or linguistic varieties they switch between and the origin of those two languages? Please try to avoid using the word 'lol' in your answer or further trying to shoe horn politics in, it's a bit tacky
@Michael Green you've been given an opportunity to prove me wrong and instead of taking it you've just retreated to projecting and digging yourself even deeper. Think it's pretty open and shut...
Vicious a war veteran that though he founded love and friendship , just to be betrayed by the people he loved… with a broken soul he finds the strength to become the boss… he fights with a sword in a world of pistols and guns… he got his revenge… my favourite anime villain…
Is he the villain, or is it his brother Fearless(Spike), the one who betrayed him for a woman. The guy who smiled because he knew his brother had his back. If you can't trust your woman and your brother in a world like a crime syndicate, you know you can't trust anyone.
@@BiyikFrostDiaz Hahaha yeah it's a shame what they did in the live action, nothing was saving it but I wanted to see a proper live action vicious. That unfortunately didn't happen.
@unknown user Spike (his best friend) tried to elope with Julia (Vicious' girlfriend) . He dedicated himself for the syndicate and Spike tried to abandon the Syndicate which is equivalent to treason, yet all sing praise to a traitor. It's as bad as it gets for anyone pal.
@@Grimium i wish they made a sequel as well but events that took place in the past like jet being a cop and spike in the syndicate find their past so fascinating. Or hell a version of vicious point of view to have a better understanding of his character.
@@lordfrieza2073 i would love to see a series of them in the mob. I like see there past as well. I imagine it being like the karate kid theory Daniel is the real bully. I mean spike did steal vicious girl and all, and most people assume he was abusive to julia but really did we see that? Sure he pointed a gun to her, what if it was really empty.
Came back here after watching the live action version to remind myself what Visicous is supposed to be. Dude walks in a room and commands it with his presence. He's a cold-blooded killer, not the whining brat they made him.
I agree. It's hard to adapt a character like this in general, he rides the "anime" wave a bit hard. I'm not sure what they could have done besides the casting
@@TheRealSorav Have less of him. Viscious works as a presence, so have messed up stuff happen and just have a shot around episode 5 where his silhouette answers the phone to order the event. If we only see him when he confronts Spike in the church, it would have been epic.
@@kronos1794 Yeah, they definitely introduced him a bit early. I'm only a couple episodes in but it feels too much like a parody in the sense that they're combining multiple episodes in one and introducing plot elements kind of haphazardly
@@TheRealSorav I gave up after episode 5. I had a friend who had never seen either watch the first episode of both and after they asked me "why does the live version have to verbalize everything?" I hadn't noticed but she was right, the anime said a lot just with silence, visuals, and expressions. In contrast the live action version has the characters tell us how they feel instead of showing us.
I agree do you like Hellsing??? I would love to see Vicious and Alucard fight. They have such cool voices I met Wendee Lee she is the voice actress for Faye Valentine she is super cool and I met Steven Jay Blum too the voice actor for Spike Speigel.
Shows what the two of them were, in the end: Vicious was the serpent with potent venom, who killed everyone he fought with in the series slow. Spike was the Young Dragon, quickly killing his opponents.
Yeah both of them has opposite method in term of killing. Spike use Gun that quickly killed his enemy and did not apply any further unnecessary pain, meanwhile Vicious use Venomous Sword because he enjoy causing pain and suffering as long as possible to his enemy and he do that because he was a sadistic who loved causing pain.
The teaser looked so promising but netflix butchered this show more than I even feared it would. Vicious didn't deserve that absolute character assassination
Normal people who haven't seen their friends in a long time: Hey! It's been a long time! How've you been?! Vicious who hasn't seen Spike in a long time: *When angels are forced out of heaven, they become devils. You agree, don't you, Spike?*
That "And you will shed tears of scarlett" bit is one of the few killing scenes in any fictional medium that just haunted me. We don't see it from the perspective of the victim who's getting slashed across the eyes (thank goodness) but it's clearly a really gruesome death. And I know he was a criminal leader who wanted Vicious dead, but that Vicious could kill him LIKE THAT was definitive proof that Vicious was indeed an inhumane monster.
Not an "inhumane" or a "monster", but a very pain-inflicting disturbed man for sure. The metal blade went through his eyes. The metal poisoning producing the intense τσουξιμο (It's a Greek word applying to a specific kind of pain; take as an example jellyfish bites/pinches) combined with the raw striking pain, everything was painfully inflicted on his rooting-away senile old eyes. Vicious is kind of an emo. A nihilist, if you might. So, he doesn't see anything to believe in. But he is not a sociopath. Just a man who lost his way.
They turned Vicious from an emotionless, calculating, reptilian psychopath to Tommy Desimmone from Goodfellas or Commodus from Gladiator, someone who's impulsive and insecure at his core.
fascinating that this whole criminal organization plot goes on in the background - there's vast enterprises and power structures we as the audience never interact with (on purpose). our cast are just doing what they can to survive.
It blows my mind every time I rewatch CB that Spike, our Spike, was even MORE badass than he appears on the show. I get the impression that both him and Viscious were being groomed for top level Syndicate positions, and that their falling out drove Vicious to stage a very successful coup.
6:05 Gren: "When I was on Titan, I met a guy called Viscous, in all the times we knew each other, he only ever said Three Words to me..." Viscous:..."You're a Twink."
Mao, Spike, Julia, Gren... not to blame the victim or anything, but the dude's name is VICIOUS. You mentored, partnered with, slept with, or idolized a monotone blank-eyed psycho named VICIOUS.
He's a great example of someone who could have avoided being the villain. In other circumstances, his worst impulses are checked by the love of those around him.
@@equu497 If he picked up the sword, outfit, and Creepy Ass Bird the same time he got the name, then that may well be the greatest edgelord overreaction to a break-up in history.
I tried to, could never do it. I have no problem with subs, but the American cast is so perfect. Even Shinichiro Watanabe said the American cast is better.
I know a lot of fans hated Vicious in the live action Cowboy Bebop series. But I'm hoping that if they made a 2nd season, he'd be more like this. The Netflix show creators can redeem his character that way. And maybe bring the bird into the show as well.
They wont, they want to destroy any empowering male character. That's why they made Kylo Ren a little crybaby instead of like Vader. They fear masculinity. They want to bastardize it.
From what i saw in their twitter, i don't think the writers and the director realize their Mistake and even defending their show to the point they downplayed the original anime. Sometimes not everything deserve a second chance. Just let the rat ass netflix show buried in soil forever
Since Vicious' name starts with a V, the same as Cyberpunk 2077's MC. I'll roleplay as Vicious when I get to playing it. Corporate Vicious wielding a katana.
It's not until you get put into the same situation as Vicious that you understand how much of a moron Spike was. After all the shit he did to him, Spike went out of his way to seek out Vicious. Sure Vicious was a criminal but when Spike fucked off after the betrayal Vicious didn't chase him, he just let him go. If anything Vicious acted out of self defense, most of the time he doesn't even want to kill Spike, on the other hand Spike raids his hideout and throws grenades at Vicious, Spike justifies his behavior by seeking revenge for Maria even though Spike actually was in the wrong the whole time, if anything Vicious would have been justified looking for revenge, but he didn't. This is further proven by the fact that, in both their fights, Spike uses heavy weaponry while Vicious fights with a sword and a bird.
I guess we're just going to ignore that Vicious also has a bunch of mooks who pack heavy heat, as well, and only bothers to fight Spike when he's gravely wounded, has no men left, or when he has someone he knows Spike won't kill, then. Like... Vicious is a lot of things, but a fair fighter isn't one of them.
If Vic really didn’t care he wouldn’t have kidnapped Faye that one time. There wasn’t really any other reason to do that. And don’t forget all those syndicate members he sent after Spike reunited with Julia. Dude couldn’t get over what happened and wanted to watch the world burn while Spike just never had anything to lose. No wonder they kept fighting
I liked the description Faye used of Julia... and was thinking "Ballad of Fallen Angels" and "When angels are forced out of Heaven, they become devils" but yeah, it was the wrong title. He is the snake. That's what the Van say.
Now this is the Vicious I know and remember. When I was kid, I thought he was so cool with that Katana but watching this now as an adult it looks so stupid. Never bring a sword to a gunfight lol
It’s not that simple. He’s a nihilist and honestly by the end of the series he flirts with death on purpose. Everyone he ever knew betrayed him. His mentor, his best friend, and even his lover.
When I was 12..impersonating Shin was the best ..I was waiting for you Spike..acting all..then going to school..He will come..I liked doing also Vicious..all Epic..best thing ever made on screen
By the way, have you watched the Japanese version? I heard his Japanese VA Norio Wakamoto was really playing against type since he usually hams every role he has as much as he can.
6:25 after years later I know why he did that. It shows vicious may not be mentally sound but as some have stated he knew Julia wasn't loyal and that spike wasn't respectable anymore. And so when this dude tries to act buddy and cordial with vicious he makes it clear that they could never be anything more than acquaintances if even that. Simply because of how he fears vicious who saves his life and doesn't feel any sort of regret for how he reacted. Remember Spike in episode one had jet actively "sh00t" at him and yet wasn't afraid because he trusted jet same to when Fae did the same there was no fear
The leadership of the Red Dragon's has no changed hands from this time forward MY POWER IS THE ONLY POWER Vicious obvious reference to the seven headed beast with ten horns Lucifer/Loki/Ares 11:17/11:57
This is actually dumb, but when I first watched the show I thought that when Spike said Vicious wouldn't show mercy to anyone, even the man who took him in and made him who he was I thought Spike was referring to himself, rather than Mao. Pretty stupid in hindsight. Vicious' introduction is one of the best in the show, or shows in general. Period.
Me too. I only realized that in subsequent rewatches. I think in my case it's because I first watched the show when I was really young. Probably an age thing
The leadership of the Red Dragon's has now changed hands from this time forward MY POWER IS THE ONLY POWER 11:46/11:58 Remember a serpents Venom poison's slowly after the bite A serpent doesn't need to eat a dragon when it can kill with one bite of its poison Energy out is energy back
Does anyone know the name of the theme that comes on when gren says "we were comrades" Edit: I found it. The cowboy bebop wiki really is something to behold. It's called wasteland.
@@hubertgiao8909 Nah, not the Tears Of Blood Scene. It's whenever Vicious is de-briefed by The Van and they usually belittle him and it's a dark, brooding theme. A lot of bass.
Anyone knows the name of the "melody" that sounds at 9:47 to the end of the scene ? I was looking for that melody but i never found it, it seems it was an unreleased track, I need it jaja
I always liked how vicious slid the gun to spike first in their final battle. He was an evil bastard, but he had some real respect for his enemy there.
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Yeah thats fucking stupid but 4 the narrative ill take it
@MsUsagi513
Why would you slide a man a gun for your sword. What are the chances you'll live after ?
@@SaltedMallows it's called bushido, not to mention the two used to be friends so it was fitting that they killed each other.
@@Blackwolfninja89
Im already aware but you cant deny this is stupid. Bushido is different when exchangimg melee weapons but a gun for a melee weapon? Thats stupid
Am I the only one who notices that "Then why are you still alive?!" is apparently the only time he really raises his voice?
@Michael Green what are you on about? Code switching is just a colloquial term used by racists who want to normalise ignorantly and disrespectfully slipping into dialects that don't belong to their own ethnic group. There is no code switching between these two characters.
@Michael Green I think what's happened here is I've called you out and now you're at a bit of a loss. If you think code switching doesn't have anything to do with ethnicity in common parlance I would suggest picking up a dictionary or perhaps revisting what you think it means, especially in the context you're trying to use it in.
@Michael Green could you explain which two languages or linguistic varieties they switch between and the origin of those two languages? Please try to avoid using the word 'lol' in your answer or further trying to shoe horn politics in, it's a bit tacky
@Michael Green you've been given an opportunity to prove me wrong and instead of taking it you've just retreated to projecting and digging yourself even deeper. Think it's pretty open and shut...
@Michael Green yes keep insulting and digging. That's sure to prove me wrong.
I think Vicious giving away the music box is his way of saying he already knew Julia was cheating on him.
It happened after Julia shoots Spike. He went to the war to die because he had nothing left to live for.
Vicious a war veteran that though he founded love and friendship , just to be betrayed by the people he loved… with a broken soul he finds the strength to become the boss… he fights with a sword in a world of pistols and guns… he got his revenge… my favourite anime villain…
Is he the villain, or is it his brother Fearless(Spike), the one who betrayed him for a woman. The guy who smiled because he knew his brother had his back. If you can't trust your woman and your brother in a world like a crime syndicate, you know you can't trust anyone.
"The blood of a beast who wanders...hunting for the blood of others...." "I've bled all that kinda blood away."
"THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL ALIVE?!!"
@unknown user You can be both nice and strong.
"Don't forget, a serpent's venom poisons slowly after the bite." Sheer badass gold.
Him saying "Vicious" and then the crowd clapping is just masterful
Shit reminds me of rhinestone cowboy by doom
"There is nothing in this world to believe in."
Your right, but there is one that is should be believed-not in the world, but from above.
Truer words I live by
There's a lot of things to believe in.
That line alone should have gave the live action hacks some insight on Vicious's character, smh
the different perspectives in the same flashback are captivating: Gren only saw Vicious, who inspired him, but Vicious only saw death and despair
Had to come back to remind myself of how vicious really was, that live action vicious felt so out of place and miscast, they butchered him 😅😅
Fr no disrespect to the actor but that role wasnt for him 😂
That was not Vicious, That was not Cowboy bebop at all :l.
Sadly he was a bitch in the live action version
Here he knows what he is doing and how he achieves it
@@Kxy2x Yeah I have nothing against the actor, it's the casting agent and the directors idea for vicious that was totally wrong IMO.
@@BiyikFrostDiaz Hahaha yeah it's a shame what they did in the live action, nothing was saving it but I wanted to see a proper live action vicious. That unfortunately didn't happen.
Vicious is example of what happen when people you loved and shared fond moments of happiness betray you.
@unknown user Spike (his best friend) tried to elope with Julia (Vicious' girlfriend) . He dedicated himself for the syndicate and Spike tried to abandon the Syndicate which is equivalent to treason, yet all sing praise to a traitor.
It's as bad as it gets for anyone pal.
@MsUsagi513 Vicious also betrayed Gren and that was before Spike slept with Julia. Vicious is not that innocent.
That is a really good point so much so that I wished they made a sequel.
@@Grimium i wish they made a sequel as well but events that took place in the past like jet being a cop and spike in the syndicate find their past so fascinating. Or hell a version of vicious point of view to have a better understanding of his character.
@@lordfrieza2073 i would love to see a series of them in the mob. I like see there past as well. I imagine it being like the karate kid theory Daniel is the real bully. I mean spike did steal vicious girl and all, and most people assume he was abusive to julia but really did we see that? Sure he pointed a gun to her, what if it was really empty.
"And you will shed tears of scarlet " most gangsta line ever 😎🩸🩸🩸🩸
Came back here after watching the live action version to remind myself what Visicous is supposed to be. Dude walks in a room and commands it with his presence. He's a cold-blooded killer, not the whining brat they made him.
I agree. It's hard to adapt a character like this in general, he rides the "anime" wave a bit hard. I'm not sure what they could have done besides the casting
@@TheRealSorav Have less of him. Viscious works as a presence, so have messed up stuff happen and just have a shot around episode 5 where his silhouette answers the phone to order the event. If we only see him when he confronts Spike in the church, it would have been epic.
@@kronos1794 Yeah, they definitely introduced him a bit early. I'm only a couple episodes in but it feels too much like a parody in the sense that they're combining multiple episodes in one and introducing plot elements kind of haphazardly
@@kronos1794 Its so corny. I watched ep 3 with a friend and we couldnt stop laughing. I wonder when ill finish it
@@TheRealSorav I gave up after episode 5. I had a friend who had never seen either watch the first episode of both and after they asked me "why does the live version have to verbalize everything?" I hadn't noticed but she was right, the anime said a lot just with silence, visuals, and expressions. In contrast the live action version has the characters tell us how they feel instead of showing us.
There’s lots of talk about the English dub being so good and obviously we all love spike and Faye but Vicious is so incredibly captivating
I agree do you like Hellsing??? I would love to see Vicious and Alucard fight. They have such cool voices I met Wendee Lee she is the voice actress for Faye Valentine she is super cool and I met Steven Jay Blum too the voice actor for Spike Speigel.
Don’t forget about jet :)
I love how soft yet utterly menacing Vicious' voice is. And how he manages to sound utterly dead inside too. The VA needs to do more villain roles.
@@Choices2aaAlucard would end Vicious without taking any damage
Spike shot Vicious dead. Vicious's sword bit Spike and in the end its venom (the fatal wound) finished Spike.
Shows what the two of them were, in the end: Vicious was the serpent with potent venom, who killed everyone he fought with in the series slow. Spike was the Young Dragon, quickly killing his opponents.
Yeah both of them has opposite method in term of killing. Spike use Gun that quickly killed his enemy and did not apply any further unnecessary pain, meanwhile Vicious use Venomous Sword because he enjoy causing pain and suffering as long as possible to his enemy and he do that because he was a sadistic who loved causing pain.
his voice is so cool and badass xDD
The same voice actor who was Might Guy and Ryu in the Street Fighter anime.
And you will shed tears of scarlet
nice bro one of my favorite lines
The best line in the series in my opinion
The smooth jazz added so much sophistication
“Ballad of Fallen Angels” was the episode where Cowboy Bebop went from being a really good anime to an unforgettable masterpiece
Only guy that brought a sword to a gunfight and won😂
The teaser looked so promising but netflix butchered this show more than I even feared it would.
Vicious didn't deserve that absolute character assassination
they completely missed the mark of Viscous on Netflix live action. like completely
When a man makes you tremble just by saying his first name, you know you have a good villain.
Normal people who haven't seen their friends in a long time: Hey! It's been a long time! How've you been?!
Vicious who hasn't seen Spike in a long time: *When angels are forced out of heaven, they become devils. You agree, don't you, Spike?*
“And you will shed tears of scarlet.”
when vicious was listening to julia's tune, i teared up and couldn't even help it
Faye: who are you? Tell me!
Vicious: Vicious....
Faye: 😨
That "And you will shed tears of scarlett" bit is one of the few killing scenes in any fictional medium that just haunted me. We don't see it from the perspective of the victim who's getting slashed across the eyes (thank goodness) but it's clearly a really gruesome death. And I know he was a criminal leader who wanted Vicious dead, but that Vicious could kill him LIKE THAT was definitive proof that Vicious was indeed an inhumane monster.
Not an "inhumane" or a "monster", but a very pain-inflicting disturbed man for sure. The metal blade went through his eyes. The metal poisoning producing the intense τσουξιμο (It's a Greek word applying to a specific kind of pain; take as an example jellyfish bites/pinches) combined with the raw striking pain, everything was painfully inflicted on his rooting-away senile old eyes.
Vicious is kind of an emo. A nihilist, if you might. So, he doesn't see anything to believe in. But he is not a sociopath. Just a man who lost his way.
The "and you will shed tears of scarlet" line sounds like something the fortune teller would say.
@@girlcrazyrockstar do you know what is means “crying tears of scarlet” what does Scarlett mean?
@@anasg007 Scarlett is like a red color
@@anasg007"You will cry blood"
"In the anime, Vicious was f*#king horrifying"- Chris Stuckmann
I can see why Nomura originally wanted Vicious's VA to voice Xemnas. Kinda sounds like a pissed off Terra.
Vicious is indeed a snake. He's ruthless, bloodthirsty and.... true to his name. Vicious.
Skip Stellrecht (Vicious' English VA) would be So Perfect as Hush.
It annoys me that he doesn't get more work these days.
Dam almost 2019 and this show still gives me chills bebop is legendary
The only anime villain i love so much.
And Netflix did dirty on our Vicious as coward scumbag.
I've always hated Netflix for ruining every anime adaptation.
They turned Vicious from an emotionless, calculating, reptilian psychopath to Tommy Desimmone from Goodfellas or Commodus from Gladiator, someone who's impulsive and insecure at his core.
fascinating that this whole criminal organization plot goes on in the background - there's vast enterprises and power structures we as the audience never interact with (on purpose). our cast are just doing what they can to survive.
Im thinking that vicious and spike are like step brothers both partially raised by the older syndicate man that vicious killed.
i think it goes without saying that vicious was supposed to be exactly what spike USED to be like.
@@CloudWalkBeta very doubtful, as one of the characters state that he wouldn't behave as he is if spike was still around.
that's pretty much sums it up.
Yeah i think both of them are initially adoptive brother who cross to each other path
and you will shed tears of scarlet... so bad ass
I swear if the Han Solo movie doesn't end as epic as this then its not worth a dime.
It blows my mind every time I rewatch CB that Spike, our Spike, was even MORE badass than he appears on the show. I get the impression that both him and Viscious were being groomed for top level Syndicate positions, and that their falling out drove Vicious to stage a very successful coup.
In my last moment I hope I can and will muster up enough strength to point my finger and say "Bang!"
Vicious is such a badass bloke!
Well vicious wasnt lying when he said im the only one that can set you free to bad spike wasnt lying ether two friends distend to kill one another.
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6:05
Gren: "When I was on Titan, I met a guy called Viscous, in all the times we knew each other, he only ever said Three Words to me..."
Viscous:..."You're a Twink."
Look how they massacred my boy
Mao, Spike, Julia, Gren... not to blame the victim or anything, but the dude's name is VICIOUS. You mentored, partnered with, slept with, or idolized a monotone blank-eyed psycho named VICIOUS.
He's a great example of someone who could have avoided being the villain. In other circumstances, his worst impulses are checked by the love of those around him.
Have you considered that he only gained that name after being betrayed by everyone?
@@equu497 If he picked up the sword, outfit, and Creepy Ass Bird the same time he got the name, then that may well be the greatest edgelord overreaction to a break-up in history.
@@joshuak5958 let's make a movie about that
He reminds me of Sephiroth, and I have a CRUSH on Sephiroth. But Vicious by himself, he’s quite handsome.
Vicious is a good choice for a husbando lol
lots of people say viscous was 2 dimensional but I thought he was given enough depth
He's the main villain of the anime Wolf's Rain
You mean Darcia right?
@@yothischeetobussin1279 Yeah
11:00 the smoothest
I tried to, could never do it. I have no problem with subs, but the American cast is so perfect. Even Shinichiro Watanabe said the American cast is better.
Cowboy bebop dub is the only dub that ever came out good in my opinion. They will never get Dragonball Z right.
@@GhostGrind FMA begs to differ
@@zemox2534 its good but not next to cowboy bebops acting
@@mewsterx3679 It is just as good.
@@GhostGrind try "Ghost Stories" for size
Wish I couldn't relate to this guy.
I know a lot of fans hated Vicious in the live action Cowboy Bebop series. But I'm hoping that if they made a 2nd season, he'd be more like this. The Netflix show creators can redeem his character that way. And maybe bring the bird into the show as well.
They wont, they want to destroy any empowering male character. That's why they made Kylo Ren a little crybaby instead of like Vader. They fear masculinity. They want to bastardize it.
From what i saw in their twitter, i don't think the writers and the director realize their Mistake and even defending their show to the point they downplayed the original anime. Sometimes not everything deserve a second chance. Just let the rat ass netflix show buried in soil forever
Since Vicious' name starts with a V, the same as Cyberpunk 2077's MC. I'll roleplay as Vicious when I get to playing it. Corporate Vicious wielding a katana.
Yes my Brother! 😄👏🏻
But remember Vicious. A snake can NOT eat a Dragon.
I love Swordsman vs Gunslinger Duels. :)
It's not until you get put into the same situation as Vicious that you understand how much of a moron Spike was.
After all the shit he did to him, Spike went out of his way to seek out Vicious.
Sure Vicious was a criminal but when Spike fucked off after the betrayal Vicious didn't chase him, he just let him go.
If anything Vicious acted out of self defense, most of the time he doesn't even want to kill Spike, on the other hand Spike raids his hideout and throws grenades at Vicious, Spike justifies his behavior by seeking revenge for Maria even though Spike actually was in the wrong the whole time, if anything Vicious would have been justified looking for revenge, but he didn't.
This is further proven by the fact that, in both their fights, Spike uses heavy weaponry while Vicious fights with a sword and a bird.
I guess we're just going to ignore that Vicious also has a bunch of mooks who pack heavy heat, as well, and only bothers to fight Spike when he's gravely wounded, has no men left, or when he has someone he knows Spike won't kill, then. Like... Vicious is a lot of things, but a fair fighter isn't one of them.
If Vic really didn’t care he wouldn’t have kidnapped Faye that one time. There wasn’t really any other reason to do that. And don’t forget all those syndicate members he sent after Spike reunited with Julia. Dude couldn’t get over what happened and wanted to watch the world burn while Spike just never had anything to lose. No wonder they kept fighting
Vicious using Sword not because he was a honorable fighter or some kind of it, he use Sword because he loved to cause a prolonged pain to his enemy
I don't know who the fuck this new vicious is on the Netflix series cause he aint this!
I liked the description Faye used of Julia... and was thinking "Ballad of Fallen Angels" and "When angels are forced out of Heaven, they become devils" but yeah, it was the wrong title. He is the snake. That's what the Van say.
is maturity realizing Vicious did nothing wrong? that he only did the bad things because he was betrayed by the people he trusted the most
You can’t be a horrible person just because you have an excuse... Vicious sucks
Nah he did plenty thing wrong, plus he was too blinded with power and nihilism
Vicious are a great villain
“Kill me” - Vicious
Now this is the Vicious I know and remember. When I was kid, I thought he was so cool with that Katana but watching this now as an adult it looks so stupid. Never bring a sword to a gunfight lol
It’s not that simple. He’s a nihilist and honestly by the end of the series he flirts with death on purpose. Everyone he ever knew betrayed him. His mentor, his best friend, and even his lover.
When I was 12..impersonating Shin was the best ..I was waiting for you Spike..acting all..then going to school..He will come..I liked doing also Vicious..all Epic..best thing ever made on screen
does anyone know who randomly blew up the roof right before the final battle? did spike plant that or did vicious purposely detonate something?
I like the sound of Vicious's Bird and Gunfire heard in this vid. Is this a remastered version?
A serpent's venom poisons slowly after the bite
By the way, have you watched the Japanese version? I heard his Japanese VA Norio Wakamoto was really playing against type since he usually hams every role he has as much as he can.
Oh, well, when did you post this? I didn't even know.
6:25 after years later I know why he did that. It shows vicious may not be mentally sound but as some have stated he knew Julia wasn't loyal and that spike wasn't respectable anymore. And so when this dude tries to act buddy and cordial with vicious he makes it clear that they could never be anything more than acquaintances if even that. Simply because of how he fears vicious who saves his life and doesn't feel any sort of regret for how he reacted.
Remember Spike in episode one had jet actively "sh00t" at him and yet wasn't afraid because he trusted jet same to when Fae did the same there was no fear
What is the name of the song that play at 8:45? So good and fitting!
The leadership of the Red Dragon's has no changed hands from this time forward MY POWER IS THE ONLY POWER
Vicious obvious reference to the seven headed beast with ten horns Lucifer/Loki/Ares
11:17/11:57
Thank you all.
Smoke screen bird.......Vicious was so fuckin cold !!
This is actually dumb, but when I first watched the show I thought that when Spike said Vicious wouldn't show mercy to anyone, even the man who took him in and made him who he was I thought Spike was referring to himself, rather than Mao.
Pretty stupid in hindsight. Vicious' introduction is one of the best in the show, or shows in general. Period.
Not That Guy The Other I did too man
Same
Thank you for this knowledge
Me too. I only realized that in subsequent rewatches. I think in my case it's because I first watched the show when I was really young. Probably an age thing
The leadership of the Red Dragon's has now changed hands from this time forward MY POWER IS THE ONLY POWER 11:46/11:58
Remember a serpents Venom poison's slowly after the bite
A serpent doesn't need to eat a dragon when it can kill with one bite of its poison
Energy out is energy back
Does anyone know the name of the theme that comes on when gren says "we were comrades"
Edit: I found it. The cowboy bebop wiki really is something to behold. It's called wasteland.
where can i find the vicious theme? it always plays when he interacts with the van
road to the west. haha a bit late
@@hubertgiao8909 Nah, not the Tears Of Blood Scene. It's whenever Vicious is de-briefed by The Van and they usually belittle him and it's a dark, brooding theme. A lot of bass.
@@hubertgiao8909 It plays at 9:48 in this video.
im not sure but it sounds like an ambient sound for that part. i think that was the only scene that has that theme
@@hubertgiao8909 It happens two or three times in the series. The first time is Jupiter Jazz the second time is in the final 2 episodes.
Don't forget...
When angels are forced out of heaven they become devils.
Anyone knows the name of the "melody" that sounds at 9:47 to the end of the scene ? I was looking for that melody but i never found it, it seems it was an unreleased track, I need it jaja
Hey...
Did u find it?
You talking about the music box? I think ita called julia. Look it up
Its an unreleased music cue... named “Space Time” on the wiki but officially has no name
Do you mean “Road to the west?”
90's forever
They completely ruined one of my fave characters in the shit live action show but that wasnt the only character they ruined...😑
He definitely got the worst treatment
Epic
Sketchy how dirty shit gets.. ☠️
Here after seeing Paul st Peter talk about auditioning for Xemnas.
Man the end of the show is soo sad.
What’s the background music from 9:45 to 11:00?
I also need to know, it's low deep tone always interested me
11:35 smooth af
Fun fact: same voice actor as Might Guy.
"Nothing."
Spike wick before John wick
The older I get the more it's Vicious.
9:58 Anybody know that ambiant music in the background?
Who are you vicious
The demon Vucuq Caquix.
My favorite edge lord
"Either you kill him or you both die" Prophetic words from a badass villain
I looked up to you I believed in you
Are there any mafia and/or crime-syndicate based anime as good or better than this???
No
Black Lagoon is pretty good
Black lagoon on the same level
Gungrave
Yes.