37th America's Cup Final, New Zealand sailing supremacy | Up and Foiling - The Sailing Podcast

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  • @patrickflanagan317
    @patrickflanagan317 Місяць тому

    I'm a Kiwi sailor and we have learnt to focus on all the tiny details. We have experience and great crew and skippers. Plus for the first time in years we had the budget to be competitive. Kiwis are TOUGH !!

    • @upandfoiling
      @upandfoiling  Місяць тому

      Indeed! Tough and fair defenders. They will be hard to beat!

  • @phillipmurray1724
    @phillipmurray1724 Місяць тому +4

    Then when you have to use Google translator for the Italian comments I think maybe it makes the comments even funnier. 🎉 The rulz are the rulz that's why it's the toughest event to win. When the yanks had the cup they were the worst defenders! When the usa catamaran raced the nz monohull that was a joke 😂 good work lads, appreciate your efforts. ✊🏽

    • @upandfoiling
      @upandfoiling  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for the wonderful comment @phillipmurray1724 ! You are right 1988 was a messy one and we've seen lots of ACs in the past fought more in court than on the water. I think we are now in a golden age and I hope they keep it up! PS: Google translator + Italians' comments in the chat must really be an explosive combo 😆

  • @MadridBarcelonaRota
    @MadridBarcelonaRota Місяць тому

    Races 7 8 and 9. We have an expression for this phenomenom, it is: normal transmission has resumed.

    • @upandfoiling
      @upandfoiling  Місяць тому

      Hahahah, yes, GBR had no chance really!

  • @ilya_baraev_sail_racing
    @ilya_baraev_sail_racing Місяць тому

    10:26 half indeed to see around, but on the other side the driver has data from tactical software

    • @upandfoiling
      @upandfoiling  Місяць тому +1

      You are right; I should have mentioned it! I also find it interesting how the positioning of the helms means that a boat approaching from behind is in a bit of a blind spot. It is hard to steer your boat if you are also keeping an eye on your opponent, looking backwards. This is challenging when you are the leading boat at the start!

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella Місяць тому +1

      The tactical race software (or possibly the data inputs to it) were a bit unreliable. That may have contributed to some of the errors in a few races.

    • @ilya_baraev_sail_racing
      @ilya_baraev_sail_racing Місяць тому

      @@Gottenhimfella yes, i think so too, the most notable when NZl after gating on port a bit late than 2.10 gybed and came off foils in the light wind. Nathan with visual contact of GBR was actually calling that they can cross, but Peter behind the sail looking at the tactical software overrides and calls last minute gybe

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella Місяць тому +1

      @@ilya_baraev_sail_racing Indeed. Both boats were late into the box by the same amount in time terms (but GB was I think 3 knots faster) , and I checked on Virtual Eye later and there was no question of NZ not being able to cross on port, so I thought (knowing Peter was blind as far as the visual situation) that it might well have been the race software playing up.

  • @Dwb.x
    @Dwb.x Місяць тому +2

    New Zealand began their AC journey way back in 1987. We lost the LV to the US. We had various challengers that failed but we learnt every time. We eventually won it. Then defended it. Then lost it. And now we have won it multiple times. But New Zealand, not the US, has driven fairer rules. The Italians have helped these changes. The New Zealander, Russell Coutts, multiple AC winner, even created the SailGP competition (with Larry Ellison’s help and money) which helps competitors to fine tune their sailing skills on foils and of course become financially more sustainable. All competitors know the design rules and location at least two years out. New Zealand even sailed this AC ‘away’ from home. Making it an even more level playing field. The New Zealanders have the scars of many failures and earned the right and are worthy AC holders. It’s up to the others to step up. New Zealand will lose one day. It’s inevitable. Will it be to Italy or the Brits or a dark horse?

    • @D-Marie0970
      @D-Marie0970 Місяць тому

      Spot on! NZ failed time and time again before they succeeded, and then failed again. ...this is the normal process before any team can become proficient and establish any form of dominance. This is the baptism of fire ALL successful teams must go through in order to be good enough to first win the cup, let alone defend it. Remember when ETNZ first defended it, most of those Kiwi sailors went to Alinghi and came back to beat ETNZ. ETNZ had the determination to start all over again to win the cup back and defend it twice. A team needs determination perseverance and talent in designs and sailing. Most important is to never give up. ETNZ are the masterclass of AC sailing but it did not come easy, a lot of sweat tears and heartache before the victories.

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella Місяць тому +1

      @@Dwb.x The Aussies did the really hard yards. I think they had six unsuccessful challenges before finally squeaking across the tryline in '83. I always think of NZ' s successes as being a somewhat ANZAC campaign, not least with Clouds, Gashby and now Outeridge being so pivotal, and fitting in so well. The Italians and kiwis have also had each other's backs at times when the US defenders were behaving particularly badly. Comrades in arms, and even faint shades of the liberation of Trieste...

    • @Dwb.x
      @Dwb.x Місяць тому

      @@Gottenhimfella I wouldn’t diminish the Aussie’s effort but the reality is the winning boats for some time are built in New Zealand, and skippered by kiwis but with a sprinkling of Aussie input. The Swiss was largely kiwis with Swiss money. The Oracle team was Spithall and Ainslie with Oracle money. I’m surprised the Aussie’s haven’t entered again given Spithill is such an accomplished helmsman and the sprinkling of Aussie’s in most teams, if under one boat, would surely create a formidable challenge.

    • @upandfoiling
      @upandfoiling  Місяць тому

      The passion, dedication and financial investments needed to win the cup are immense as you rightly point out! It takes a lot to be in the position compete for the cup, even more to win it, and an even greater effort to defend! I agree, New Zealand are worthy AC holders!

  • @johnmartin7158
    @johnmartin7158 Місяць тому +1

    In my view point, Luna Rossa was the 2nd best boat.

    • @upandfoiling
      @upandfoiling  Місяць тому +1

      What cost them the Louis Vuitton Cup? Reliability, boat handling, wind and sea conditions or something else?

  • @roslynhita6149
    @roslynhita6149 Місяць тому

    Yes! .... it couldve gone differently ... LUNA ROSA couldve beat ETNZ

    • @upandfoiling
      @upandfoiling  Місяць тому

      Under the right conditions, maybe... We will never know!

    • @mitchand9
      @mitchand9 Місяць тому

      ​​@@upandfoiling The right conditions are the keywords you stated.
      I don't think there was much difference in speeds when it came to the boats. It feels like the other teams designed their boats based on the last Kiwi boat that won. Like an updated version.
      The kiwis I feel designed their boat based on the conditions they would race in at that time.
      Over the past 4 years they knew what conditions they were more likely to sail in throughout the regatta and it showed.

  • @susanowner9549
    @susanowner9549 Місяць тому

    Kiwis were faster and a better team….that’s all

  • @Leoatwallacerockhole
    @Leoatwallacerockhole Місяць тому

    boring voices dont make it exciting