Forster Co-Ax Primer Seater Overview
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Guy Miner here: I’ve used handheld primer seaters and press-mounted primer seaters, but I’d never tried a bench-mounted unit. Let’s take a look at the Forster Co-Ax Primer Seater!
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I would like to see a "shootout" between primer seating tools. From something like this and an RCBS all the way to a primalrights seater. Same gun, same load. Groups shot between each primer tool.
I have had mine since the late 1990's and love it! The setup goes much faster with practice and the precise feel and control is pleasing. I like the way the primers stack as well for safety reasons, no need to elaborate.
I got a Forster Co-Ax priming tool when I started loading for an M1A. It’s very important that the primer sits a couple thousandths *below* the case head for that rifle. This gives me more leverage while still providing good “feel” when the primer is seated. I don’t use it for pistol cartridges, but any bottlenecked rifle case get primed with this.
Another thing I like is that the case mouth is pointed away from you. I’ve never set off a primer pushing it into a case, but this tool gives me some peace of mind.
I picked one of these up a couple of weeks ago and it works great. I primed qty250 of 223 brass in no time. Saved my hand from getting cramped up. Scheels had a great price on these. Make sure you get the tray they show in the video too.
I've only recently bought one of these. So far so good - easy to set up, very fast to load and use. I'd love to see some primer depth consistency measurements vs other options.
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Did you get little marks on the primers when seated?
@@brodeebell7002, yes I do, doesn’t seem to affect them
Had mine for 8 years. Its the best rifle primer I own. Flawless, great seating feel. I like the new coating and that filler looks handy; I cut the edges out of an RCBS flip tray to fill my tubes.
Good to see Guy! The man knows his way around a bench (and the range, mountains, fields, mean streets, etc.) 😁
Would like to see comparison with this, primal rights, the Lee bench primer, and any other bench mounted options. Effect on sd, ES, group size, etc.
Had one for years. Love it . Alot easier on the hands when you reload large amount of cases
I have one. It took a little while to get used to it but now I really like it. Try not to let the lever bounce down. It will activate the plunger and push primers out.
Yes experienced it!
To date, this has been my go-to primer - the magazine is a great time saver.
Have had this for years. Gave up on it after a week or two of struggling with it. Primer feed issues, constantly dumps primers, primers don’t feed consistently, etc. I have their press, love it, but this just sits somewhere in a drawer collecting dust.
Had one for a couple of yrs now, went thru a bit of a learning curve with the loading of the tube and a brainfart or two with that in handling it. The tray works OK, can be awkward to use with 100 primers in it, be nice if it had a cover. Some folk recommended mounting it on an angled board, I'd agree with that, makes things easier to see. Functionally, it sets up easy enough, operates consistently. I have an RCBS to try out now, see if maybe it is any better in loading the tube, don't know til you try.
I have one of these and I like it. What I did was create a mount for it. I used a 4x4 and cut a slope in it so the tool sits on a sloped base. Mine is now not level but that's on purpose. It's aimed slightly up.
Also with the sold separately tray you can load the tubes in seconds.
Considering precision reloading was mentioned, it would be great to see micrometer etc measurements regarding consistency of outcome such as primer depth or feel.
Also there was no mention of whether this tool allows you to choose your preferred primer seating depth or if you 'get what you get'
If it is the same setup as the one on Forster's press it will be perfect every time
I would be interested to see the Forster vs the CPS on target results
I think I got mine in the early 1980s it's not my everyday tool for priming but for antique cartridges like balloon head brass for black powder cartridges ie., 32 S&W, 38 S&W 41 Long Colt and 45 Colt for heeled bullets or inside lubricated the adjustable jaws are perfect. It's a small niche in reloading but this is the perfect tool.
Have been using one of these for about 3 years now. Great priming tool.
I would love to see a primer comparison; between Forester, Lee, Hornady, Lyman, RCBS, et all...
Both my Co-Ax press and primer seating tools are pre-Forster. Bonanza. The press still uses a shell holder for priming. The bench seating tool utilizes cammed rollers instead of jaws. Almost like being in a reloading museum!
Thanks gent’s, you fellas rock this show. Always very informative and interesting; let’s not forget costly. Thanks for the rundown.
I have one and I think the coax is great. But it is imprecise in the baiting depth and I question its usefulness. I await your quick opinion... Today I had announced it for sale as a second hand... but I will wait for your conclusion
I have mine for quite a while now. Love the adjustable jaws feature, but adjusting can be a bit slow going. I was expecting better feel seating primers than I am experiencing, but I haven’t used it a lot, maybe because I like the feel of other tools more. It’s a tool that I really want to like more. I generally like hand priming better for versatility and feel, but I am enjoying the new (to me) Lee bench prime.
There’s a fourth priming method if you consider those old Lee caliber specific reloading kits which require you seating the primer with a hammer.
True - we did a story about those just a couple of months ago. I dug out my 1970's version for that video.
Did the primer seater come with the red tray? Mine did not. I do however enjoy using the seater. I actually bought it because of this channel. I can actually say that for almost every piece of reloading equipment I have. This channel is super rough on my bank account! 😅
That one looks ten times better than my old RCBS tool
Just got mine yesterday loaded 100 rounds on .357 magnum with it I really enjoyed it
I love my RCBS bench priming tool.
Not a fan. Have had it for a few years now. The aluminum feed tubes get a bit distorted and the primers hang up. Tray doesnt hold 100 primers either. Going to try a Franklin.
I like my Forster press, but never tried the primer tool. It looks nice. I have a Hornady Progressive, Hornady Iron Press, Lyman Victory, Forster Co-Ax and Redding T7, press. So far I like the Lee bench primer for under $30 best. BTW Any idea when and where primers might be available again? Haven't done any priming in months. Thanks! Shalom/gw
I've only used the RCBS hand primer tool and I'm intrigued by the bench priming tools out there. I'll have to do some research to find the one that fits my needs.
I like my RCBS bench priming tool because it bolts down on the bench facing at you. Takes very little room. Seems that set up may have better feel to it. I suppose it all depends on how much space you have, or what color you like.
Thanks for demonstrating new products. However, I like my RCBS bench Primer over this one. RCBS uses shell plates; no adjustments needed. Load the primer tubes and go. Easy to switch from large and small.
They are pretty cool I bought one new old stock in the box (BONANZA) at my LGS I liked it so much I went back and bought one used no box no feed tube.
So I assume there is no other adjustment, like for the seating depth. It looks like it goes by feel, just a bench mounted version of the hand seating tool.
I don’t have one but now I want one… I have a Forster Co-ax so I’m familiar with the priming setup. I have a Lyman Ram Prime die (for my Rockchucker) but don’t like having to handle every primer. The Forster would be a nice addition to my reloading bench.
I should add that I wore out my Lee hand priming tool so I need a replacement for when I want to prime cases while watching a movie with my daughter. This doesn’t look like it’d ever wear out…
I had one a short time. My primers were all badly set. They were all set crooked. I sold this bench priming tool.
I'd like to know how the forester primer seater compares to the primal rights primer seater.
Guy or Gavin come into Stan's and I will personally hand you a box of small pistol primers.
I wish I could find a bench primer that was as sensitive as my hand held RCBS. I love using it but I am getting some arthritis in my hands these days and the hand tool wears me out after about 300 or so primers.
Its a good priming tool. I just didn`t care to have to monkey around with their 3-way adjustable shell holder, so i bought the RCBS bench priming tool instead. I found, with the RCBS bench primer tool model, all my priming tubes interchange between my progressive presses, AND, my bench priming tool. So, if i ever needed more tubes (for either) to reload with without stopping my reloading sessions to load more primers, it works out both ways between my presses and bench priming tool. Not to mention, the RCBS bench priming tool seems much more robust and better made. I do have to say, i like how quick you can load the primers in the Forster bench priming tool. Pretty slick. But i do have a electronic primer tube filler, so mine is super quick, too.
I own it and it's very good, the only problem you can't get 50 primer in the tube, it's annoying you can't do a complete tray
I love mine, only complaint is that the large rifle tube only holds 49 primers, couldn’t Forster make it hold 50. May have to “McGiver” it!!!
I have had a different experience with the Forster than most reviewers. I hate mine. I had a lot better luck with the cheapo Lee bench primer. I can’t get it to prime consistently. I’ve watched countless videos and tried everything. Frustrating especially how expensive primers are. I’m selling this thing and might try the rcbs or go back to the Lee. Very disappointed in it.
Although it looks clever, a few months ago, I purchased a PRIMAL RIGHTS CPS primer seater unit. It you would have caught me a few months ago, I am sure I would have gotten this unit, all in efforts to get away from wrecking my hand with the tested, proven RCBS hand priming tool. The RCBS hand primer works great, but I am getting old these days lol. When I seen the CPS (I think that is the initials) for it, I jumped on it and has been great on not beating the daylights out of my work out hands. But I can absolutely see this unit in today's video helping 1000's of people save their hands, and not break the bank like the CPS unit costs...
Does this tool have a seating depth adjustment? If not, it's not for me.
Looks like my Lee..desk top. and I love my Lee one.. nice to see no shell holders ! makes it easier.. but what happens if u have a jam?
I really like the channel in the "tube" you can probably see a flipped around one very easily. Hmmm, making me rethink the on-press scheme...
Now If ONLY I Had Primers (Sorry Not Changing From RCBS Hand Held With Shell Holders...)
I have an RCBS tool. It sucks. Most of the primers only go in 90%. So I have a ridiculous procedure where I put them in with the RCBS tool, then I have to go through every case again with a Lee tool to finish seating.
Big fan. Have 5 of them now. Three set up for my most common. .532 large case head, .473 large and small. Then keep two available for adjustments like 338 lapua, 224 valkyrie or weird brass etc. Great tool.
Comfortably do 1200 pcs per hour when doing big batches.
I’d rather have one Lee benchrest with a 10 dollar shellholder kit
Yes I have one and love it
Wish it took shell holders. Would be much faster and user friendly if you could just quick change shell holders.
Agreed
Takes about as long to setup as it does to find a shellholder for me, it's really easy to do.
I've been looking for small rifle and large pistol primers for months.
I have the RCBS bench priming tool. I like it and use it a lot but I can see some things about the Forster that would be really nice.
I'd like to see the comparison between this and the over priced Primal Rights CPS
Do they make one for the .50 BMG?
The one thing I hated on my old co-ax was the way the primers were seated.
I have one of these but while using it looked down at the top of the primer tube and wondered what would happen if a primer went off in that position, no thanks
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They should have went with an auto indexing system like the rcbs universal hand primer. Love my rcbs but my hand begins to hurt after 20 primers so I'm looking for a bench top solution. Not sure I want this one after seeing it needs adjustment just to begin priming.
Agreed
I have the Lee Auto Bench Primer Tool and I love it. So easy to use and perfect seating every time. Very inexpensive also.
I have a RCBS bench mounted tool and hate it use my press if I'm not doing too many if I'm doing any big amount I use a hand held tool and it's my favorite
Is anybody on the Patron membership? It’s blank and no content anybody else have it or
It is a awesome tool had a problem something dropped on the tube had to buy a new tube could not get it right human error
Seems great for poor old hands like mine
I think I'll stick with my RCBS bench mounted primer seater. Faster.
that's great
now how about some primers?
Yawn.
@@Russell-1 wake up, it's still daytime
I think it's great , will it load brass shotgun shells , since rcbs eliminated the online priming on the rebel press ?
I just use an RCBS 12ga shell holder and a standard press priming arm for my brass hulls
Can you adjust the depth of seating
Have to shim the plunger.
I think those Forster body`s are made out of aluminum. I would be concerned how long before they strip out the screw holes.
I don`t see me having that problem with my RCBS bench priming tool. And i`ll never strip out a shell holder either.
It isn't aluminum, cast iron of some kind.Could be the same material as the press.
I wouldn’t say the primer track/tube is unique, it’s the same principle that Lee makes, just from metal. I would say this bench primer is a More expensive shellholder less lee bench primer
Can you adjust depth and can you destroy a case accidentally like the coax primer seater? That thing has way too much leverage. And is obviously slow as shit.
You could shim the plunger for the depth, no slower than using a hand tool in operation. I have no idea how you'd destroy a case in either the press or this tool.
@@davecollins6113 youve clearly never used the stress primer seater then
I reload mainly military 5.56 brass. I’ve worn out my rcbs hand primmer and my wrists aren’t the greatest after 15yrs of welding. Anyone here have any luck with the co-ax after removing the crimp on the brass? I reload 3-5k 223 per year.
I have not had good results with the old Lee and RCBS hand Priming tools with 5.56/.223 LAKE CITY Federal, GGG and RWS MILSPEC brass cases with crimp removed using a Lyman crimp remover. Primers would misalign and crush 50% of time. I bought the Forster to solve this and have the same issues. It is fine for commercial brass, but needs perfect setup. I have found the only tool that works is the LEE RAM PRIME in a tight press. This holds the primer in a cup and presents it supported into the brass. It takes ages single loading each primer. I’m in the UK so no semi autos and components hard to get, otherwise I would not bother with crimped brass. My friend has the RCBS APS bench tool with plastic strips holding the primers and he swears by it for MIL CRIMP cases in several calibres 5.56, 6.5X55, 7.5X55 Swiss, 7.62 NATO and 54R, 8mm Mauser.
Shoot out between this and Primal Rights.
Agree, but... Let's add the popular basic ones first. How about the Lee and the RCBS, (and the RCBS/Holland's) versions to start with. I like my CPS, but the prices ranges are not comparable. Even the Lee ACP falls into what I would consider fair game territory based on the price range.
I've been wanting to get a bench priming tool. I'm either priming on my Dillon 550C or I use my Frankford Arsenal hand primer but when my dad comes by to reload some ammo it's harder for him to use the hand primer especially if he's having to load several rounds. Honestly he gets me to set up my Dillon so he can prime on it... LOL Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
My buddy's girlfriend was struggling with the frankford arsenal priming tool the other day.
@@justinmochi7323 I like it a lot but it does take a little bit of hand strength especially if you're priming lots of brass...
If the Dillon is set up correctly, you get as good of a feel as most anything else within reason. Benefit of progressive loading remains too.
@@christopherfreeman3095 Yeah but having to change out shell plates and swapping between primer size isn't exactly quick especially compared to a hand or bench priming tool. But I do all my load development and reload a bunch with a single stage...
For $150 I'll keep my Lyman hand primer and it's faster too.
Don't like it because it appears to not limit the distance or pressure applied to the primer. This uses old school technology and really has not improved the state of the art in primer seating. So it is not any better than any other seater.
If it's $50 it's fine. If it's $150 then I can't see the value. I'll have to look up the price and see.
If you have cases with tight primer pockets, this tool is quite poor. Little feel and not enough leverage. Inconsistent depth. I struggled with it for a week and then gave it away when I got my RCBS bench seater.
Out of stock everywhere
Cool
Won't work! This device requires an item that can not be found anywhere - primers.
poor camera work, could not see the jaws
Useless if you have the Forster co-ax press.
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I own one and it is a piece of trash. Great concept, but the execution is atrocious.
The flip tray is completely ineffective; it doesn't flip the primers. The primers sometimes flip themselves as they slide out of the feed tube and onto the face of the seater. They do NOT slide easily out of the tray and into the tube (when you use more than 10 primers), like in the video... pretty sure that is why he is only using 10 primers.
I've ruined a bunch of primers (then had to remove them) because they were pressed in backwards out sideways. I was able to reproduce the problem MANY times and WATCHED the primer flip as it dropped out of the tube and onto the seater face.
Lastly, the jaws do not properly grab the rim of some of my cases (I only use Lapua and Norma brass and load common calibers). I'm using the right side (depending on rim thickness, you flip them over), but I tried both sides regardless. The jaws on my CoAx Press grab them fine; but not on this primer... either the jaws lack the clearance to get the rim in, or it is so sloppy that it won't hold the case well enough to seat the primer. I've had to force the case into the seater face wit one hand while pushing the lever down with the other, just to try to get them to seat.
This piece of equipment is garbage.
Infomercial? You can do better..
If your cohost isn’t interested in doing a real test with data and results you should run an ad for an opening on Gavin Tube. Guy is a recalcitrant dolt.
Sorry I stoped in to be disappointed again.